Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

Good perspective on how big a barge that is.

But basically what I want to have eventually. A truck for work duty and a sporty car for driving around.

A long time ago a poster here stated: “ every man should have four vehicles, a sports car, a luxury car, a truck and……something else that the wife drives”

oldfarmer50

mjfloyd1 remind me, how long between order and delivery?

jpp75

corvette said:

Just for grins, I looked at the Tesla Supercharger network as it would have pertained to my recent road trip. I think I would have been fine until I actually got to the Black Hills. I spent two nights in Medora, ND, where there is no readily available charging, and you have to go 37 miles east to Dickinson for a charge. I easily drove several hundred miles in that area, plus my next destination was driving south to Devil's Tower. Stop me if you've heard this before--the nearest Supercharger is 28 miles further west from my route, in Glendive, MT. Devil's Tower is 220 miles south, so you'd be running on very few electrons by the time you got there. The Supercharger in Spearfish, ND is an additional 60 miles away. I think I would have been fine once I got to Rapid City, and on the return trip. Obviously, there are other (slower) chargers available, but there are definitely some holes in the network the further you get out west.

I'm on a vacation/road trip down in the southwestern part of Colorado and your analysis really sums up the charging aspect of the EV experience. While I could have done this trip in the Model3, I have to say I would have been more limited in my ability to go wherever I want, whenever I want. The last couple of days I've enjoyed being able to "see where this road goes" or just take the long way back to my hotel. Those aren't always options in an EV, especially in remote areas like these.

I will say the L2 chargers are much more common than they were even a year or two ago which helps but you still have to do a bit of planning and be OK with somewhat limited options if you want to be more open ended with your plans. The L2 chargers are great to charge up over night but if you're out and about for the day they aren't really fast enough to provide you with any meaningful charge.

Couple that with how much I'm enjoying the Defender (just passed 2,000 miles yesterday) and I have to say my interest in the Rivian continues to wane.

sda

EVs certainly have their appeal. I doubt that I will buy an EV until you can charge an EV as quickly and easily as you can fill up a gas/diesel based vehicle.

mjfloyd1

@rayainsw said:
mjfloyd1 -
Congratulations & best of luck!

• Ray
  Reports on driving experience - soon?

I’ll let you know. I’ve got to figure out when I can pick it up - just 2 hours away but lots of road construction

mjfloyd1

@oldfarmer50 said:
mjfloyd1 remind me, how long between order and delivery?

This one ordered 7/12.

The other one (white) ordered 6/22 and still waiting but build scheduled 8/31

corvette

I would have one, but either have a gas or hybrid vehicle as my other car, or plan to rent one if I were contemplating a trip like that.

jmonroe1

nyccarguy said:

I parked next to a Mini at tennis last night

You should have put a MAXIMUM plate on it.

jmonroe

mjfloyd1

Lucid Air

https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/g33969978/lucid-motors-reveals-dream-edition-air/

stickguy

I’d only get a full EV as a 2nd car for only local duty. Making it much less practical at current prices since I would need another nice car for the wife and trips.

A plug in hybrid is probably ideal for me at this point.

jmonroe1

mjfloyd1 said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

mjfloyd1 remind me, how long between order and delivery?

This one ordered 7/12.

The other one (white) ordered 6/22 and still waiting but build scheduled 8/31

I guess you opted for the overtime assembly line for the 7/12 one but not for the 6/22 one, right?

Good luck with the one you just got.

jmonroe

qbrozen

@tjc78 said:
It was a random video I stumbled upon. Don’t think it is for sale.

Also not sure if you are joking or not!!

No, I really wanted to see it for sale. I’d be curious to see the hit to resale value it takes.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

@tjc78 said:

It was a random video I stumbled upon. Don’t think it is for sale.

Also not sure if you are joking or not!!

No, I really wanted to see it for sale. I’d be curious to see the hit to resale value it takes.

Don't you mean Premium, not Hit?

imidazol97

The Mini has license plate "MINIMUM."

mjfloyd1

@jmonroe1 said:
I guess you opted for the overtime assembly line for the 7/12 one but not for the 6/22 one, right?

Good luck with the one you just got.

jmonroe

Thanks.

I’m assuming they had a run of sting grey scheduled and I hit it just right. White must be next up as builds is scheduled for 8/31. But I honestly have no idea why.

mjfloyd1

@stickguy said:
Nice.

I like that orange one a lot too.

I think that is “Nacho” and currently not available to order. They did add “Tuscadero” which is pink from Happy Days.

au1994

Nacho looks even better in person. I’m really looking forward to seeing Gecko in person.

xwesx

mjfloyd1 said:

4xe arrived.

Congrats! Which direction do you need to go to get it?

I'll be driving through your area on Sunday on my way south to pickup my trailer in North Carolina.

laurasdada

stickguy said:

I’d only get a full EV as a 2nd car for only local duty. Making it much less practical at current prices since I would need another nice car for the wife and trips.

A plug in hybrid is probably ideal for me at this point.

Yup, having 301 miles of dino range after pulling up to a broken electric station with only 2 miles of nuclear power left did put a smile on my face. Unlike the Tesla 3 driver next to me...

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

mjfloyd1 said:

4xe arrived.

Congrats! Which direction do you need to go to get it?

I'll be driving through your area on Sunday on my way south to pickup my trailer in North Carolina.

North Carolina? What happened? Did they run out of trailers in Alaska already?

jmonroe

greg128

Tesla Plaid is officially the fastest 1/4 mile production car in the world: like 9:18 secs @ 152.8 mph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7pPsZEjO6U

One driver noted that on his run there were birds sitting on the light tree and when he took off they didn't fly away. I guess this is the future but seems a bit boring compared to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE8AygGDLf8

stickguy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXFT-Pee_Ck

stickguy

EV drag racing, is just weird.

au1994

stickguy said:

EV drag racing, is just weird.

It is. I just don’t fully understand the technology enough yet to know how you ‘tune’ 2 identical kw output motors so that one is faster than the other. Two identical CI ICE motors? Yeah, I get that. I couldn’t do it but I get the idea and process.

mjfloyd1

@xwesx said:
Congrats! Which direction do you need to go to get it?

I'll be driving through your area on Sunday on my way south to pickup my trailer in North Carolina.

Thanks. I’ll be heading to Kokomo IN (from Bloomington IN). It may be a week or so as the salesman is off this Saturday. I’ll have to see what works out since we have HS football Friday night and going to Greencastle IN for DePauw football scrimmage to see my daughter. First world problems.

Make sure you check Waze or Google maps and look at construction- they are working on 465 around Indy and converting SR37 to I69 from Indy to Bloomington and Martinsville IN is a traffic mess. (Although it wasn’t bad at all at 5am today🤣)

jmonroe1

mjfloyd1 said:

@xwesx said:

Congrats! Which direction do you need to go to get it?

I'll be driving through your area on Sunday on my way south to pickup my trailer in North Carolina.

Thanks. I’ll be heading to Kokomo IN (from Bloomington IN). It may be a week or so as the salesman is off this Saturday. I’ll have to see what works out since

we have HS football Friday night and going to Greencastle IN for DePauw football scrimmage to see my daughter. First world problems.

What position does she play?

jmonroe

kyfdx

I'm pretty sure I could get to Kokomo on Friday. I'll keep it here in the Bluegrass, until you can come and get it.

mjfloyd1

@jmonroe1 said:
What position does she play?

jmonroe

Cheerleaders for both daughters. You got the pronoun right!

There is a female kicker on a local high school football team.

mjfloyd1

@kyfdx said:
I'm pretty sure I could get to Kokomo on Friday. I'll keep it here in the Bluegrass, until you can come and get it.

That’s even farther away. I appreciate the gesture though.

fintail

With the wood on the hood and the crown emblem, I suspect this is the look they were going for:

tjc78 said:

Anyone want a CTS-V wagon?

mjfloyd1

@greg128 said:
Tesla Plaid is officially the fastest 1/4 mile production car in the world: like 9:18 secs @ 152.8 mph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7pPsZEjO6U

One driver noted that on his run there were birds sitting on the light tree and when he took off they didn't fly away. I guess this is the future but seems a bit boring compared to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE8AygGDLf8

I suspect the Rimac Nevera will eclipse the plaid shortly

explorerx4

@mjfloyd1,
A friend of one of my kids went to DePauw. She was a cheerleader there. I think she ended up marrying a football player.
Just a random fact.

mjfloyd1

Interesting how small of a world that we live in. My daughter joined a sorority and a senior’s mom went to high school with my sister.

One of the orthopedic surgeons here went to DePauw too. My daughter went to a party at their fraternity house and sent me a picture of him. Priceless

tifighter

mjfloyd1 said:

I suspect the Rimac Nevera will eclipse the plaid shortly

For $2.4 million, I would freaking hope so.

tjc78

@fintail said:
With the wood on the hood and the crown emblem, I suspect this is the look they were going for:

Oh no doubt. The video had Holiday Road playing and the other side had “Honky lips” sprayed on.

Ironically, I’ve never seen anyone do a version of the Taurus wagon in Christmas Vaca

xwesx

jmonroe1 said:

North Carolina? What happened? Did they run out of trailers in Alaska already?

jmonroe

Depends on how much you're willing to pay....

xwesx

mjfloyd1 said:

Make sure you check Waze or Google maps and look at construction- they are working on 465 around Indy and converting SR37 to I69 from Indy to Bloomington and Martinsville IN is a traffic mess. (Although it wasn’t bad at all at 5am today🤣)

I had my memory all mixed up! I was thinking you were in the Pittsburgh area.

I'm starting from Conneaut, OH, so thankfully I'll get to miss the construction mess you mentioned (though I'm sure I'll find plenty of others along my route).

xwesx

tifighter said:

mjfloyd1 said:

I suspect the Rimac Nevera will eclipse the plaid shortly

For $2.4 million, I would freaking hope so.

That's for sure! The ~$135,000 price of entry on the Tesla makes it, performance-wise, a screaming deal.

jpp75

corvette said:

I would have one, but either have a gas or hybrid vehicle as my other car, or plan to rent one if I were contemplating a trip like that.

It's funny, for a while I had the Model3 and the C30 and found I never drove the C30 even though they were parked right next to each other and all I had to do was grab the keys.

But I tend to agree with your line of thinking. I did drive the Tesla 11,000 miles in 9 months and never had an issue, so while it's doable you definitely give up some options on road trips.

For most people I think a PHEV is perfect, charge it each night and use mostly electric in daily driving but you have the gas backup if/when needed.

Semi related, I reset one of the trip computers when I left Denver last week. So far I've traveled 1,083 miles and the Defender is showing an average of 23.8 MPG. Not bad for a nearly 5,000 pound tall brick.

Michaell

jpp75 said:

corvette said:

I would have one, but either have a gas or hybrid vehicle as my other car, or plan to rent one if I were contemplating a trip like that.

It's funny, for a while I had the Model3 and the C30 and found I never drove the C30 even though they were parked right next to each other and all I had to do was grab the keys.

But I tend to agree with your line of thinking. I did drive the Tesla 11,000 miles in 9 months and never had an issue, so while it's doable you definitely give up some options on road trips.

For most people I think a PHEV is perfect, charge it each night and use mostly electric in daily driving but you have the gas backup if/when needed.

Semi related, I reset one of the trip computers when I left Denver last week. So far I've traveled 1,083 miles and the Defender is showing an average of 23.8 MPG. Not bad for a nearly 5,000 pound tall brick.

That’s probably better than what our Outback would get…

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

jmonroe1 said:

North Carolina? What happened? Did they run out of trailers in Alaska already?

jmonroe

Depends on how much you're willing to pay....

Out of my last 4 cars 3 were bought away from the Burgh area. The furthest was Mrs. j’s 2012 Subie that was bought in Columbus Ohio. That is my limit of travel to get a car. Yeah, it was only a Subie so I guess you could say it didn’t deserve even that but that’s my limit.

Just last week when I mentioned to a group of people about going out of town to get a car, I said that Son #1 once said he’d go to Chicago to get a car. When he heard that he corrected me saying, “yeah, I said that years ago but if I found what I really wanted across the country at a good price, I’d hire someone to check it out and if it was OK I’d buy a plane ticket and do it that way”. What’s wrong with him? Where did I fail?

jmonroe

tjc78

I live in Jersey near Philly.

My last two cars came from Rockville MD, and North Jersey near NYC

I go where the deals are.

There is only one Volvo dealer in my area and while very nice, also proud of their cars and don’t discount deep (at least not enough for a tightwad like me)

mjfloyd1

@tifighter said:
For $2.4 million, I would freaking hope so.

I guess you should have said less than $2M USD

mjfloyd1

@xwesx said:
I had my memory all mixed up! I was thinking you were in the Pittsburgh area.

I'm starting from Conneaut, OH, so thankfully I'll get to miss the construction mess you mentioned (though I'm sure I'll find plenty of others along my route).

Looks like I was wrong anyway. 465 is a mess because they are working on I 70 and I 65 inside of 465. All the traffic is being pushed out to 465 because there is only one lane open on I65 and I70 and most of the downtown exits are closed.

xwesx

mjfloyd1 said:

Looks like I was wrong anyway. 465 is a mess because they are working on I 70 and I 65 inside of 465. All the traffic is being pushed out to 465 because there is only one lane open on I65 and I70 and most of the downtown exits are closed.

That does sound like a mess! Even construction out in (seemingly) nowhere in Nebraska on I80 caused backups that took over an hour to get through. Again, single lane traffic (but there were only two there to begin with!).

ronsteve

mjfloyd1 said:

@xwesx said:

I had my memory all mixed up! I was thinking you were in the Pittsburgh area.

I'm starting from Conneaut, OH, so thankfully I'll get to miss the construction mess you mentioned (though I'm sure I'll find plenty of others along my route).

Looks like I was wrong anyway. 465 is a mess because they are working on I 70 and I 65 inside of 465. All the traffic is being pushed out to 465 because there is only one lane open on I65 and I70 and most of the downtown exits are closed.

Last I heard (I drove it 3 weeks ago), the North Split of 65 and 70 was closed, hence the detours onto 465 for both interstates. They were recommending that I-65 traffic use I-70 between the south split and 465, just to relieve the volume on that one leg of 465 by separating the detoured I-65 traffic from the detoured I-70 traffic, but it seemed few were following that suggestion.

au1994

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/6e735732-2415-4f19-981f-046dc6cce76d-jpeg.501408/

A Tuscadero has hit the lot. Its actually not as garish as I thought it might be.

tifighter

There was a guy on the JL forums wanting to get Tuscadero on a 392.

au1994

You would always find it in a parking lot, thats for sure.

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I know someone who would like that color...