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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,689
    I think that BMW was able to avoid the emissions scandals of the day, so perhaps the systems are reasonably reliable. I'd be concerned about intake buildup due to the EGR, but, beyond that, it should be a pretty solid car.
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,338
    qbrozen said:





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    How do you keep the underbody of a car that clean? Even the factory build stickers are clean.

    I’ll bet if our poster buddy @oldfarmer50 bought that car he’d never stop drooling over that underbody.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,338
    edited May 2023
    It's not an M Sport. Its a Sport Line which gets the sport seats and a different steering wheel. But no M Sport front fascia, wheels, or steering wheel.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737

    It's not an M Sport. Its a Sport Line which gets he the sport seats and a different steering wheel. But no M Sport front fascia, wheels, or steering wheel.

    Thanks for the clarification. Also has pretty red highlights inside. ;b

    So what do you think of it? Am I crazy? Wait... scratch that... is it worth what I think its worth? Or, at least potentially, if it is as good as it looks? The sport seats definitely seem to be a rarity with the diesel from what I've found.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,338
    qbrozen said:

    It's not an M Sport. Its a Sport Line which gets he the sport seats and a different steering wheel. But no M Sport front fascia, wheels, or steering wheel.

    Thanks for the clarification. Also has pretty red highlights inside. ;b

    So what do you think of it? Am I crazy? Wait... scratch that... is it worth what I think its worth? Or, at least potentially, if it is as good as it looks? The sport seats definitely seem to be a rarity with the diesel from what I've found.
    The people who like BMW diesels REALLY like BMW diesels. The 524td owners back in the '80s were almost a cult. I know some diesels had issues but I think the 328td motor is pretty stout; my SA loves them.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

    Car and driver had their 40k mile long term test recap this month on an M3. Best spec, base RWD with a manual. They really liked it other than light steering. And man it eats expensive tires.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,215
    jmonroe1 said:

    qbrozen said:





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    How do you keep the underbody of a car that clean? Even the factory build stickers are clean.

    I’ll bet if our poster buddy @oldfarmer50 bought that car he’d never stop drooling over that underbody.

    jmonroe
    I would live under a car that clean.😍

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    @qbrozen - Obviously just 1 data point. A friend of mine had a 2013 328d. I don't remeber the exact mileage (between 120K & 140K), the injectors went bad. It was quite a large repair bill. He actually argued with BMW and they eventually came around and paid him back for the repair. Something for you to look into.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737

    Apparently I pondered too long. It is gone. Sat there for like a week and of course the night I go to make an offer, POOF.

    Ah well.

    Came close to buying a CTS 2.0T AWD yesterday, too. Gold on tan (old man combo) with I think it was 68k miles on a 2015. Went for like $400 over my self-imposed max. The problem on so many of these is the shipping. I go for the no-rust cars, so getting them to NJ is typically pricey and forced me to keep my bids hundreds lower than they would be otherwise.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

    Logical solution. Move to Georgia.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767

    @breld are you keeping your name on the list now that Integra Type S pricing is out?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

    @pensfan83 said:
    @breld are you keeping your name on the list now that Integra Type S pricing is out?

    What do they want for it? The regular 6 speed is about $36k IIRC

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,832

    Starts at 51,995. It’s expensive IMO.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

    Yeah I found an article. I would stick with the A spec. $15k is too much extra

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737

    Starts at 51,995. It’s expensive IMO.

    wow. Is that a new FWD record?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    I suppose some Cadillacs technically exceeded that.
    For example, the 2010 DTS had a starting MSRP of $47k, which would be $65k in today's dollars.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,707

    Starts at 51,995. It’s expensive IMO.

    Yeah thats a hard pass.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767

    @au1994 said:
    Yeah thats a hard pass.

    I'd rather have a TLX Type S for not much more $$.

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618

    The people who like BMW diesels REALLY like BMW diesels. The 524td owners back in the '80s were almost a cult. I know some diesels had issues but I think the 328td motor is pretty stout; my SA loves them.

    If it didn't have an automatic I'd be interested.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    It is a gorgeous Friday here in my area of the country. I fired up my Prelude and drove into work. One thing it does incredibly well is the way it just effortlessly it changes lanes. So smooth and stable.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    pensfan83 said:

    @au1994 said:

    Yeah thats a hard pass.

    I'd rather have a TLX Type S for not much more $$.


    I agree. The TLX Type S and MDX Type S are really sharp.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,457
    I'm sure @breld will check in at some point, but we had a quick text conversation about the ITS pricing yesterday. He started thinking what else he could get at that price point.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,869

    The people who like BMW diesels REALLY like BMW diesels. The 524td owners back in the '80s were almost a cult. I know some diesels had issues but I think the 328td motor is pretty stout; my SA loves them.

    If it didn't have an automatic I'd be interested.

    Unfortunately, that's the only way a "modern" BMW diesel comes. Automatic. :/

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,182
    Six days of convertible ownership, 5 days of rain...

    But, weekend is supposed to be nice, so thinking of taking the wife to Newport for lunch Saturday. Then, a local car show in the old 'hood Sunday.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,725
    At least you're not sleeping with the fishes.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,457
    qbrozen said:

    uh-oh. I finally have gained access to Manheim.

    RWTIV lives!

    (one hopes)

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,338

    @stickguy said:
    Logical solution. Move to Georgia.

    @pensfan83 said:
    @breld are you keeping your name on the list now that Integra Type S pricing is out?

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    It’s a safe bet that it is. A better question would be what list his name is NOT on.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,338

    @au1994 said:
    Yeah thats a hard pass.

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    For me that would be an easy pass and I’m not talking about the toll road system. :o

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,338

    @Michaell said:
    RWTIV lives!

    (one hopes)

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    Very good news. How much of that tab is Edmunds supporting?

    jmonroe

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

    Not shopping integra and tlx. Much bigger car with one too few pedals.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

    Got tempted today. Honda dealer sent out list of lease specials. A $46k ridge line RTL-E for $437 month. No down payment. Just add tax and dmv fees and $595 inception amount.

    Floated idea to the wife to get that, sell the RDX if still getting crazy money at carmax, get the maverick and trade that in for a small sport sedan. Seems like wins all around

    Will need a few glasses of wine (for her) tonight before floating it again.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,338

    @stickguy said:
    Got tempted today. Honda dealer sent out list of lease specials. A $46k ridge line RTL-E for $437 month. No down payment. Just add tax and dmv fees and $595 inception amount.

    Floated idea to the wife to get that, sell the RDX if still getting crazy money at carmax, get the maverick and trade that in for a small sport sedan. Seems like wins all around

    Will need a few glasses of wine (for her) tonight before floating it again.

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    I think the result of that plan will be floating her to the ladies room but it never hurts to try.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,215
    edited May 2023
    qbrozen said:

    Apparently I pondered too long. It is gone. Sat there for like a week and of course the night I go to make an offer, POOF.

    Ah well.

    Came close to buying a CTS 2.0T AWD yesterday, too. Gold on tan (old man combo) with I think it was 68k miles on a 2015. Went for like $400 over my self-imposed max. The problem on so many of these is the shipping. I go for the no-rust cars, so getting them to NJ is typically pricey and forced me to keep my bids hundreds lower than they would be otherwise.

    You could always hire some kid or old retiree to drive them up to you.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,707
    stickguy said:

    Got tempted today. Honda dealer sent out list of lease specials. A $46k ridge line RTL-E for $437 month. No down payment. Just add tax and dmv fees and $595 inception amount.

    Floated idea to the wife to get that, sell the RDX if still getting crazy money at carmax, get the maverick and trade that in for a small sport sedan. Seems like wins all around

    Will need a few glasses of wine (for her) tonight before floating it again.

    Actually not a bad lease on the Ridgeline.

    FWIW I find this a completely fair and reasonable plan. It has my full endorsement. :smiley:

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    I get lease "specials" all the time from my Acura dealer but they still insist on MSRP, with a healthy inventory of cars on the ground no less. If they would move off MSRP on an MDX and incentives increased even slightly it would be cheaper to lease than an RDX, mainly due to the MF.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292
    stickguy said:

    Got tempted today. Honda dealer sent out list of lease specials. A $46k ridge line RTL-E for $437 month. No down payment. Just add tax and dmv fees and $595 inception amount.

    Floated idea to the wife to get that, sell the RDX if still getting crazy money at carmax, get the maverick and trade that in for a small sport sedan. Seems like wins all around

    Will need a few glasses of wine (for her) tonight before floating it again.

    That’s a lot of moving parts for what amounts to swapping the RDX for a small sport sedan.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

    And a bigger truck!

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,586
    stickguy said:

    And a bigger truck!

    Any update on when the Maverick will arrive?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

    They pushed it back today. Original estimate was 4/30-5/13. Now 5/8-5/21

    Shipped day per them was 4/15

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,972

    @stickguy said:
    They pushed it back today. Original estimate was 4/30-5/13. Now 5/8-5/21

    Shipped day per them was 4/15

    Must be on the rail. No reason to take that long otherwise

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378
    from reading the forums, it varies considerably. and can sit at the terminal waiting for a truck to the dealer for a long time. But a month to get from Mexico to PA seems excessive.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737

    Ha! Chrysler has taken as much as 3 months to get from Toledo!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

    Carvana seems to be selling a lot of their maverick lariats. 3-4 in progress at a time and they are down from a high of about 36 to 23 with 3 pending.

    Not my old one. For some reason still have that. Have come down on asking price $4k. Still 1k more than I got for it. But pretty sure I made the right decision selling it when I did. Even though I spends $50 renting a uhaul to drag home bags of dirt (actually a lot easier loading it in one of these instead of any pickup)

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,586
    stickguy said:

    Oh my aching back! Caution, work ahead with wife as sidewalk superintendent!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292
    That's a lot of dirt. Wouldn't it have made more sense to have a bulk load delivered via a dump truck?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,378

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737

    @ab348 said:
    That's a lot of dirt. Wouldn't it have made more sense to have a bulk load delivered via a dump truck?

    I hate doing that and avoid whenever possible. For stick’s amount, I think it is the right decision. Better than having to shovel it off your driveway into a wheelbarrow. It is like double the work and then cleanup too.

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