Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

tjc78

@tjc78 said:
I’ve had several brand repeats (Toyota x3 and Buick x3)… 2 of the Buicks were nearly identical Enclaves (2015 and 2017).

We also owned two white on white Volvos.. S60 and XC90

How could I forget … 2 Lincoln’s and 2 Grand Marquis.

Two of the Yota’s were Avalons but different generations.

tjc78

To add further … My 89 Town Car and 89 Grand Marquis were essentially the same car

stickguy

wow. How could I forget (OK, I know how, work has trashed my last bit of mental capacity, and I can barely remember my own name). I have had back to back Mavericks, but I consider that a unique circumstance with the whole 16 month wait for the hybrid!

explorerx4

Since the late 70's, best I can recall without really thinkng about it too much, my wife and I have had 24 Fords(up to 5 at the same time), 3 Lincolns(I know, I know).
Pretty much everything else was a 1 and done.

suydam

If we count my son’s college car, we’ve had 3 Mazdas, a 323, a 626 hatch and a 6. Two Hondas, a Civic and an Accord. Back to back — the Chevy Volt and the Blazer EV. Never repeated the same model.

tjc78

@explorerx4 said:
Since the late 70's, best I can recall without really thinkng about it too much, my wife and I have had 24 Fords(up to 5 at the same time), 3 Lincolns(I know, I know).
Pretty much everything else was a 1 and done.

All those Fords and never a Panther of any type, right?

au1994

au1994 said:

Let me see...07 and 21 Wrangler. Wildly different. One was a 2 dr soft top, the other a 4 dr hardtop and hybrid. Grand Cherokee now.

328i coupe and 335i sedan back to back. Also had an E46 convertible and E93. I had the F30 sedan and E46 convertible concurrently.

BMW SUV wise, we have had the X1 and an X6. The latter is still my wife's all time favorite.

3 Honda products, Accord, TSX and MDX.

That's the only repeats I can think of.

Oh yeah…A Tacoma and Land Cruiser and a Mustang and an Explorer.

explorerx4

@tjc78,
Never a Panther.
It's just not my nature and I'm kind of cheap but I would like to have a Maurader.

xwesx

I can see why @fintail hasn't chimed in. He's so all over the map on his automotive purchases, it's probably embarrassing for him to admit.

fintail

xwesx said:

I can see why @fintail hasn't chimed in. He's so all over the map on his automotive purchases, it's probably embarrassing for him to admit.

I guess I can chime in - I've had 8 MBs and haven't had a different brand since I was 18. I leased 3 W212s. I've had cars from the 60s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s.

Michaell

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ab348

I have had two Caddy ATS 4-doors, a 2014 and a 2017 both in the same paint color, Red Obsession, though that wasn’t by design. The ‘14 was my choice and the dealer brought it in from another dealer for me. It was a nice car but a base model turbo 4 with a black interior (ugh). It was a lease and when that was up I decided to get off the lease train and bought the ‘17, a Premium Performance the dealer had in stock with a Kona brown interior, the 3.6 and all the toys. Great car.

jmonroe1

Sandman6472 said:

See they bought up in Mt. Kisco. We weren't to far from there growing up in Westchester. Nice part of New York, close to the city & New Jersey where my dad worked and had a factory. And close to Connecticut where we spent our summers. Hope to get back there one more time before I exit this earth though traveling is a bit rough for me right now.

Closed the front passenger door at work yesterday morning and the blue plastic covering on top of the mirror flew off. Tried to get it back on but no luck. After a few tries, seemed to get it lined up properly and after a few hard hits, the top and sides felt like they were getting a grip and adjusting the bottom, all the sides were back in their grooves. Didn't fall off on the way home and looks pretty good right now. Was just afraid I'd hit a bump and it would pop of while I was driving but so far...so good. Looks like I dodged another bullet here and that top part just came out of the grooves holding it in place. Electric turn signal in the mirror assembly works fine. Will probably fold that mirror in manually when I pull in/out of the garage for awhile. We did talk about taking out that closet we added years ago which would give us the extra width we need. Think when we do the pendants in the kitchen, we'll just hire someone who does electric and drywall to fix these couple of issues for us. Since we've decided to stay for awhile, might just be worth it.

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Take the cover on and off a few times until you get the hang of knowing where and how hard to push at various points to get it on. Then when you’re sure you can do it, get some Super Glue Gel (I’ve had good luck with the Locktite brand) and put some beads of it in the grooves and a few other contact points. Be careful because you’ll only get one shot at it with that glue. So get lots of on/off practice. Once it’s on, that housing will NEVER come off again, believe me.

jmonroe

stickguy

Better to leave it unglued if it is secure. Otherwise next time you catch the edge instead of popping the cover off you might rip the whole mirror off.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

Better to leave it unglued if it is secure. Otherwise next time you catch the edge instead of popping the cover off you might rip the whole mirror off.

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It sounded like he was afraid the cover would pop off while he was driving. That would be a big road hazard. Of course he could use duct tape and replace it after every rain. From the way @Sandman6472 described the mirror he has nothing to lose by gluing it. As for "catching the edge"and ripping the mirror off, sooner or later you just gotta know not to do that again. I doubt his mirror is any closer to the door jams than when I pull our cars in (about 1 1/2 inches) I don't have to get that close but I trust myself. I haven't whacked a mirror yet. Can't say the same for Mrs. j, though.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

From my inbox this evening:


Arapahoe Hyundai Shop TradeDirections

Lease an Ioniq 5 SEL AWD for Just $79/mo. or Ioniq 6 SEL for Only $119 a month!
Our goal is to become the #1 Hyundai EV dealer in the Nation!

With your help Denver, we can get there this month!

We are bringing you the best deals drive away in a New Hyundai EV today!
New Inventory Specials
Please download images for a full experience
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL AWD Long Range
New Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL AWD – STARTING AT ONLY $79 a month! AND $0 Down!
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited AWD
New Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited AWD – Lease as low as $179 a month with $0 Down!
Please download images for a full experience
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2024 Hyundai Ioniq 6 SEL AWD
New Hyundai Ioniq 6 SEL AWD – Lease as low as $119 a month!

Wow! That would almost be worth flying out to CO to get that deal. Of course you would have to schedule in a couple of weeks to get home and then return it at the end of the lease.

qbrozen

Well, you’d have to buy a house there first, so that would save you the trips.

tjc78

@explorerx4 said:
@tjc78,
Never a Panther.
It's just not my nature and I'm kind of cheap but I would like to have a Maurader.

I would take a Marauder. Prices have gone way up though.

Sandman6472

Think I might just pull the mirror in closer to the car before I pull in and use my cane to push it out once I exit the garage. Or, I can go back to pulling in at an angle so nowhere near the side of the garage door. Just being super careful right now but will have to decide sooner or later about just taking that front closet out for good. We can always hang our few coats somewhere else. Then, the Kona can be pulled in a bit closer to the left side freeing up the space I need to do no more harm. Just hoping we have no vehicular issues for awhile as I plan to do the coolant flush come January and the brakes, eventually.

graphicguy

kyfdx said:

@graphicguy Nope, Kings is still there (Joseph dealership)

This one is on the border of Mariemont and Madisonville. Used to be a co-branded Porsche/Audi store on Beechmont.

OK...I remember the dealer on Beechmont. DIdn't know they moved to Mariemont.

graphicguy

nyccarguy said:

Some final details and of course some pics (or it didn’t happen).

The final lease agreement shows 8% off sticker and only $1,500ish in negative equity. It was a win for them since they had 3 payments left, were way over the mileage, and their ‘22 wasn’t in the best shape. They still managed to sneak in A $300 pre paid maintenance even though they said they didn’t want it. I’ve already put a call into the sales dude and am waiting to hear back.

WOW...nice RX. Sleazy dealer!

kyfdx

graphicguy said:

kyfdx said:

@graphicguy Nope, Kings is still there (Joseph dealership)

This one is on the border of Mariemont and Madisonville. Used to be a co-branded Porsche/Audi store on Beechmont.

OK...I remember the dealer on Beechmont. DIdn't know they moved to Mariemont.

Maserati, Alfa, Volvo and Porsche.

The Audi dealership stayed on Beechmont.

graphicguy

I think it's easier for me to outline what brands I HAVEN'T owned....

-Buick
-Chrysler
-No Italian brands
-Mercedes
-Porsche
-Tesla (or Rivian, or Lucid)
-Hyundai (although I bought my son a new Elantra, he drove it...but technically, I owned it)
-Jeep
-VW
-Lexus
-Subaru (actually, I owned one of those, too....but it was driven solely by my ex)

I think that's it! All the rest have graced my estate at one point or another. And, some aren't even made any more....(looking at you Oldsmobile).

nyccarguy

I watch this guy's videos all the time. Usually he's trying to bamboozle someone selling a Lamborghini. 2015 Scion tC 6MT

roadburner

It’s easier just to list mine:
1974 Monte Carlo (seriously modded- really)
1969 Datsun SPL-311 Roadster
1967 Buick Riviera(bought for $5 in 1979)
1979 Plymouth Arrow GT 2.6 (fast for it's day)
1972 BMW Bavaria (bought for $150 to supply parts for...)
1973 BMW Bavaria (... my first Bimmer; a rolling restoration,I even lapped the Glen with it)
1984 Buick Skylark T Type (much nicer than expected)
1987 Merkur Scorpio (nice car, too bad about the servicing costs)
1987 BMW 535is (one of my all-time favorites)
1991 Volvo 740 Turbo (very fast brick)
1988 BMW M6 (wish I'd never sold it)
1973 Ford Bronco V8 (inherited from my father, I absolutely despised it)
1984 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe (5 spd. stick; a work beater to keep miles off the M6)
1993 Nissan Pathfinder SE (A nice truck, but the Wrangler was more fun)
1995 BMW 318ti Club Sport (my only custom ordered car; I'm keeping it forever)
1998 BMW 318ti (hated to sell it, but we needed a bigger car)
1997 BMW 528i (still going strong with its third owner and over 225k miles)
1999 Wrangler Sahara (I planned to keep it for 6 months but wound up keeping it for 21 years)
1975 BMW 2002A (eBay find, a fun project)
2004 BMW X3 2.5 (pretty reliable and reasonably fun to drive)
2007 Mazdaspeed 3 (Manic fun, but I think I'm one and done with FWD performance cars)
2009 328i (A nice basic E90- eventually passed on to my son)
2014 BMW M235i (reasonably quick as well as comfortable; another favorite)
2016 BMW i3 REx (a crazy-cheap lease; I hated to return it)
2015 BMW X1 xDrive28i M Sport (surprisingly nimble and entertaining)
2020 Mercedes-AMG C43 (my first M-B; it feels more like a BMW M car than most current M cars- very impressive)
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe (who knew that a Jeep could run the quarter in under 14 seconds AND average 50 mpg?)

qbrozen

@graphicguy said:
I think it's easier for me to outline what brands I HAVEN'T owned....

-Buick
-Chrysler
-No Italian brands
-Mercedes
-Porsche
-Tesla (or Rivian, or Lucid)
-Hyundai (although I bought my son a new Elantra, he drove it...but technically, I owned it)
-Jeep
-VW
-Lexus
-Subaru (actually, I owned one of those, too....but it was driven solely by my ex)

I think that's it! All the rest have graced my estate at one point or another. And, some aren't even made any more....(looking at you Oldsmobile).

I thought of taking that route once… but there are WAY MORE brands than come immediately to mind. Just off the top of my head of those I haven’t had yet: Bentley, Rolls, Skoda, Peugeot, Citroen, Renault, Audi, Lexus, Morgan, MG, Trabant, Lada, Caterham, AC, Kia, Lambo, Ferrari, and on and on and on.

kyfdx

Have to drive to Louisville, tomorrow... about 200 miles, round trip.

graphicguy

I forgot about the European brands outside of Germany. I did own an MGB-GT at one time. But, no Land Cruisers (although, are they British or Chinese these days?).

Have never owned a Genesis, either. Although I do like them. They are scarce around these parts, though.

graphicguy

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

From my inbox this evening:


Arapahoe Hyundai Shop TradeDirections

Lease an Ioniq 5 SEL AWD for Just $79/mo. or Ioniq 6 SEL for Only $119 a month!
Our goal is to become the #1 Hyundai EV dealer in the Nation!

With your help Denver, we can get there this month!

We are bringing you the best deals drive away in a New Hyundai EV today!
New Inventory Specials
Please download images for a full experience
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL AWD Long Range
New Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL AWD – STARTING AT ONLY $79 a month! AND $0 Down!
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited AWD
New Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited AWD – Lease as low as $179 a month with $0 Down!
Please download images for a full experience
Please download images for a full experience
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 6 SEL AWD
New Hyundai Ioniq 6 SEL AWD – Lease as low as $119 a month!

Wow! That would almost be worth flying out to CO to get that deal. Of course you would have to schedule in a couple of weeks to get home and then return it at the end of the lease.

I keep seeing those deals. But, I also believe there's a hefty CO state rebate on EVs, but only available to residents.

I have always been of the mind that at lease turn in, you can go to any dealership of the same brand to turn it in? Or, is that not the case?

nyccarguy

kyfdx said:

Have to drive to Louisville, tomorrow... about 200 miles, round trip.

You have to show up in the Porsche to pick up another Porsche. How else are you going to get yourself on "the list" for a GT3RS?

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

kyfdx said:

Have to drive to Louisville, tomorrow... about 200 miles, round trip.

You have to show up in the Porsche to pick up another Porsche. How else are you going to get yourself on "the list" for a GT3RS?

Then, my wife would have to drive also, to bring the trade-in

Michaell

graphicguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

From my inbox this evening:


Arapahoe Hyundai Shop TradeDirections

Lease an Ioniq 5 SEL AWD for Just $79/mo. or Ioniq 6 SEL for Only $119 a month!
Our goal is to become the #1 Hyundai EV dealer in the Nation!

With your help Denver, we can get there this month!

We are bringing you the best deals drive away in a New Hyundai EV today!
New Inventory Specials
Please download images for a full experience
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL AWD Long Range
New Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL AWD – STARTING AT ONLY $79 a month! AND $0 Down!
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited AWD
New Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited AWD – Lease as low as $179 a month with $0 Down!
Please download images for a full experience
Please download images for a full experience
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 6 SEL AWD
New Hyundai Ioniq 6 SEL AWD – Lease as low as $119 a month!

Wow! That would almost be worth flying out to CO to get that deal. Of course you would have to schedule in a couple of weeks to get home and then return it at the end of the lease.

I keep seeing those deals. But, I also believe there's a hefty CO state rebate on EVs, but only available to residents.

I have always been of the mind that at lease turn in, you can go to any dealership of the same brand to turn it in? Or, is that not the case?

Correct - $5350 incentive for EV and PHEV vehicles, and residency is required.

You can return your leased car to any dealer of the same brand.

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

kyfdx said:

Have to drive to Louisville, tomorrow... about 200 miles, round trip.

You have to show up in the Porsche to pick up another Porsche. How else are you going to get yourself on "the list" for a GT3RS?

Speaking of GT3's, I spotted this article on Jalopnik yesterday?

How much per month? For how long?

corvette

@kyfdx - I'd offer to meet up for lunch, but it's looking like I'll be stuck at the office since one of the other supervisors is out. But, I'll still recommend a few really good places nearby if you and your wife are here around lunchtime:
Mojito in Havana (Cuban)
District 6 (Vietnamese)
Taco Choza (best tacos in town)
Lou Lou Food & Drink (southern food with NOLA and Italian influence)
Senora Arepa (Venezuelan arepitas)

jmonroe1

kyfdx said:

Have to drive to Louisville, tomorrow... about 200 miles, round trip.

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Good to hear you’re not on the fence anymore.

FWIW, I drove more than twice that for my last 3 new cars bought out of state.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

kyfdx said:

nyccarguy said:

kyfdx said:

Have to drive to Louisville, tomorrow... about 200 miles, round trip.

You have to show up in the Porsche to pick up another Porsche. How else are you going to get yourself on "the list" for a GT3RS?

Then, my wife would have to drive also, to bring the trade-in

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If you weren’t the mod, you could be banned from this site for an excuse like that.

jmonroe

kyfdx

corvette said:

@kyfdx - I'd offer to meet up for lunch, but it's looking like I'll be stuck at the office since one of the other supervisors is out. But, I'll still recommend a few really good places nearby if you and your wife are here around lunchtime:
Mojito in Havana (Cuban)
District 6 (Vietnamese)
Taco Choza (best tacos in town)
Lou Lou Food & Drink (southern food with NOLA and Italian influence)
Senora Arepa (Venezuelan arepitas)

Thanks for those..
since we’re trading in, she won’t be with me. 🙂
She doesn’t mind short visits to shop for cars, but she can’t stand waiting for an hour to complete a deal. Add in the 3 hour round trip, and she respectfully passed on going.

Whether it’s this time, or not, I’ll definitely use those restaurant recs, at some point.

au1994

Selling to Carmax if no trade?

kyfdx

au1994 said:

Selling to Carmax if no trade?

Carvana had the best on-line quote at $14K, and has actually approved it. All I'd have to do is set up the appointment.

The dealer started at $11K, but came up to $13K, and we agreed. With the sales tax credit on the trade-in, I'm only out $220 by trading it. Considering the round trip, it's worth it.

xwesx

kyfdx said:

Have to drive to Louisville, tomorrow... about 200 miles, round trip.

Wow. Sounds like true torture. We'll be praying for you!

tifighter

@xwesx said:
Wow. Sounds like true torture. We'll be praying for you!

This guy…

mjfloyd1

@kyfdx said:
Carvana had the best on-line quote at $14K, and has actually approved it. All I'd have to do is set up the appointment.

The dealer started at $11K, but came up to $13K, and we agreed. With the sales tax credit on the trade-in, I'm only out $220 by trading it. Considering the round trip, it's worth it.

Are you buying chalk over black? 23 or 24? CPO I’d assume

kyfdx

mjfloyd1 said:

@kyfdx said:

Carvana had the best on-line quote at $14K, and has actually approved it. All I'd have to do is set up the appointment.

The dealer started at $11K, but came up to $13K, and we agreed. With the sales tax credit on the trade-in, I'm only out $220 by trading it. Considering the round trip, it's worth it.

Are you buying chalk over black? 23 or 24? CPO I’d assume

2024 Chalk w/Black leather
5260 miles
Retired service loaner
Factory warranty until March, 2028
CPO warranty until March, 2030

Looks like they've already taken it off the website

kyfdx

Here it is off Porsche's website
https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/details/porsche-macan-preowned-G8LQWQ?model=macan&position=40205,38.2214782,-85.67944340000001,50&order=closest&page=2

jmonroe1

kyfdx said:

mjfloyd1 said:

@kyfdx said:

Carvana had the best on-line quote at $14K, and has actually approved it. All I'd have to do is set up the appointment.

The dealer started at $11K, but came up to $13K, and we agreed. With the sales tax credit on the trade-in, I'm only out $220 by trading it. Considering the round trip, it's worth it.

Are you buying chalk over black? 23 or 24? CPO I’d assume

2024 Chalk w/Black leather
5260 miles
Retired service loaner
Factory warranty until March, 2028
CPO warranty until March, 2030

Looks like they've already taken it off the website
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Damn, someone bought it out from under you!

jmonroe

stickguy

Good move getting the 2024 and the extra goodies. 5.5 years of warranty on a Porsche sounds like a good thing to have too.

stickguy

Going to be shopping next spring with my daughter since the lease on her cx30 is up in June. She always wanted a Volvo XC40. If they still make gas powered ones. But saw an article today that Acura is coming out with a smaller than RDX CUV powered by the integra (aka civic Si) power train. Sharp looking. She liked it in pictures. Could be a good option for her.

nyccarguy

@kyfdx said:
2024 Chalk w/Black leather
5260 miles
Retired service loaner
Factory warranty until March, 2028
CPO warranty until March, 2030

Looks like they've already taken it off the website

Bravo!

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

graphicguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

From my inbox this evening:


Arapahoe Hyundai Shop TradeDirections

Lease an Ioniq 5 SEL AWD for Just $79/mo. or Ioniq 6 SEL for Only $119 a month!
Our goal is to become the #1 Hyundai EV dealer in the Nation!

With your help Denver, we can get there this month!

We are bringing you the best deals drive away in a New Hyundai EV today!
New Inventory Specials
Please download images for a full experience
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL AWD Long Range
New Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL AWD – STARTING AT ONLY $79 a month! AND $0 Down!
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited AWD
New Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited AWD – Lease as low as $179 a month with $0 Down!
Please download images for a full experience
Please download images for a full experience
2024 Hyundai Ioniq 6 SEL AWD
New Hyundai Ioniq 6 SEL AWD – Lease as low as $119 a month!

Wow! That would almost be worth flying out to CO to get that deal. Of course you would have to schedule in a couple of weeks to get home and then return it at the end of the lease.

I keep seeing those deals. But, I also believe there's a hefty CO state rebate on EVs, but only available to residents.

I have always been of the mind that at lease turn in, you can go to any dealership of the same brand to turn it in? Or, is that not the case?

Correct - $5350 incentive for EV and PHEV vehicles, and residency is required.

You can return your leased car to any dealer of the same brand.

So I just give them your address and I’m in? And I can turn it in back in NY? OK, this is really shaping up!🤣

Sandman6472

Stick, what's this about a smaller Acura CUV??? Sounds interesting. Most things I'm still considering just aren't making me run down to the dealership to be honest. Think I'd like an Acura product if all the variables measure up. I'm hoping eventually, there will be a vehicle like my current Golf SE that I still get that sh-t eating grin whenever I see it. There's got to be something out there that will make me want to spend my money on to own it. There's just got to be something coming down the pike!!!