It's a garage tug; you use it to move all fourteen cars around in your garage without having to crank each one up. I think Leno has three or four of 'em.
Thanks for your feedback on the cost per mile calculations. My maintenance costs are rolled into my lease payments, so no extra out of pocket costs there.
Yes, I work from home for both the primary job (IBM) and the tertiary job (Edmunds). The pizza gig is as much about getting out of the house and having some social interaction as it is about the extra money.
My Hyundai dealer recommended 3750 mile oil change interval. Given that the maintenance is already paid for, I don't have any reason to not take the E-GT in every 2-3 months for service. If I call ahead, I can even arrange for a loaner car.
@Stever@Edmunds said:
oldfarmer50, Factory builds and tolerances are probably a bit better than that bench rebuilt Shelby. Or they may have planned it that way for the plot.
I wouldn't doubt it but then they burned up the engine a second time. Doubt that was scripted.
On oil changes I'm pretty obsessive but all over the place:
Eclipse-every 5-6k with mobil 1
Wife's PT-every 3k with regular oil because she drives all short hops.
Lincoln-whenever the oil life monitor says so. Changed it when I bought it and still have 45% left.
Hooptie van-once a year or every 5k. Mainly because the cost of an oil change is just about what the thing is worth.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Pretty near impossible blow up an engine in a few minutes unless you built it wrong. I bet they forgot to pre-lube the cam bearings. You could run that engine on the cheapest of oils, at idle, for hours and hours with no harm.
I do the '97 Subaru about every 5k, mostly because that's close to the annual mileage, and the '99 van usually gets pushed out to 9 or 10k. No great loss if the engines burn up.
@MrShift@Edmunds said:
Pretty near impossible blow up an engine in a few minutes unless you built it wrong. I bet they forgot to pre-lube the cam bearings. You could run that engine on the cheapest of oils, at idle, for hours and hours with no harm.
Not real knowledgeable in that area but I remember them saying on the show that they rounded the lobes on the cam itself because there was inadequate zinc in the oil they used. Nothing about bearings but yeah, you'd figure those would go first.
All sorts of metal in the oil. "very sparkly" as one guy put it.
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I'm not buying that one bit oldfarmer. I used to rebuild engines may be 5-6 per year at my friend John's Volvo shop, and we'd run them at fast idle for 1/2 hour with NON-detergent oil, then dump the oil and filter. Never had a problem, even with overhead cam engines. Either they didn't pre-lube, got botched up machine work, didn't prime the oil pump, bent the pickup tube, wrong parts or didn't calculate clearances properly--something like that. No way, no how it had anything to do with "zinc" on such a brief lifespan.
new car in the driveway. Interesting color in the sunlight. One of those shades that looks much different depending on the light you see it in.
since it had 5" of snow on it this AM, and the roads were unplowed, guess who's car he took to work? Though my wife had fun texting him that the car fairy came, and left a shiny new car in the driveway, and the keys on the table!
@MrShift@Edmunds said:
I'm not buying that one bit oldfarmer. I used to rebuild engines may be 5-6 per year at my friend John's Volvo shop, and we'd run them at fast idle for 1/2 hour with NON-detergent oil, then dump the oil and filter. Never had a problem, even with overhead cam engines. Either they didn't pre-lube, got botched up machine work, didn't prime the oil pump, bent the pickup tube, wrong parts or didn't calculate clearances properly--something like that. No way, no how it had anything to do with "zinc" on such a brief lifespan.
"Sparkly" metal in the oil---them's bearings!
Saw the episode. Can't recall the zinc statement. But, my first thought was bearings, too.
@stickguy said:
what would you do with one of those? Seems vaguely familiar. Maybe you drive it around on the snow outside your house?
No snow here, but I drove it around in my driveway in the rain yesterday night. I mow about an acre and decided to get rid of my lawn service this year.
How much did that run you if you don't mind me asking. I do an Acre with a self propelled push mower, but could probably do it in a 1/4 of the time with a riding mower.
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How much did that run you if you don't mind me asking. I do an Acre with a self propelled push mower, but could probably do it in a 1/4 of the time with a riding mower.
$1799 plus tax and delivery at Lowe's. I had a 10% off coupon (regular price is $1999). I looked at the D110, don't really need the larger deck of the D140 I ended up getting, but wanted the better seat and electric clutch. You might want to wait until spring to buy one that is fresh off the truck, mine looks like it was the demo model that has spent several months on display outdoors at Lowe's.
@imidazol97 said:
What was the reason for non-detergent oil?
Faster break-in and less waste--since lots of machining was done, (new guides, flycuts, milling, sometimes line-boring), the idea was that any little bits of shavings, etc would be picked up in the cheap oil and then dumped after we did the fast idle.
Was there a difference in the ability to lubricate that made the non-detergent oil cause faster break-in of the moving parts? Or just that it was cheaper. When we rebuilt engines, my dad and I, I don't recall what break-in oil other than I believe it was a 10 weight oil.
@MrShift@Edmunds said:
I'm not buying that one bit oldfarmer. I used to rebuild engines may be 5-6 per year at my friend John's Volvo shop, and we'd run them at fast idle for 1/2 hour with NON-detergent oil, then dump the oil and filter. Never had a problem, even with overhead cam engines. Either they didn't pre-lube, got botched up machine work, didn't prime the oil pump, bent the pickup tube, wrong parts or didn't calculate clearances properly--something like that. No way, no how it had anything to do with "zinc" on such a brief lifespan.
"Sparkly" metal in the oil---them's bearings
Now calm down there Shifty, don't go spinning a bearing yourself. Next you'll be claiming that everything on a reality show isn't genuine. Like the time they had the tattooed model/welder fix a few things or when Richard interviewed a stripper for an accountant position.
@corvette said:
$1799 plus tax and delivery at Lowe's. I had a 10% off coupon (regular price is $1999). I looked at the D110, don't really need the larger deck of the D140 I ended up getting, but wanted the better seat and electric clutch. You might want to wait until spring to buy one that is fresh off the truck, mine looks like it was the demo model that has spent several months on display outdoors at Lowe's.
I got one from Lowe's and they delivered it without blades.
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@oldfarmer50 said:
I got one from Lowe's and they delivered it without blades.
I got a Husqvarna (looked at that exact Deere model, too) that looked like it had been sitting on the floor for awhile (and yes, I did get them to negotiate on it). It was delivered with the wrong blades, which really threw it way off balance. Got them to send someone out to put the right blades on, and got a $50 gift card for me troubles.
Used it all last year without a hiccup, but also forgot to change the oil (which I'll do this season).
10 year old Torro snow blower (2 stroke) has never had a new plug put in. All I've ever done is gas it up. It has electric start. First start of the seaons takes a little coaxing, but after that, it runs like a champ.
@graphicguy said:
First start of the seaons takes a little coaxing
Is that because of old gas? Do you run it dry or put in Stabil and run it before storing? I have the same thing with my Toro lawn mower. When I left stale gas in the line and bowl over winter, it was a bear to start. Dry or Stabil and fresh gas in spring and it was much easier to start.
@imidazol97 said:
Was there a difference in the ability to lubricate that made the non-detergent oil cause faster break-in of the moving parts? Or just that it was cheaper. When we rebuilt engines, my dad and I, I don't recall what break-in oil other than I believe it was a 10 weight oil.
I wouldn't even call it "break in" oil because we drained it so fast---it was used more as a flush, really. I think many new engines these days come "factory fill" with synthetic, so obviously even the best oils will allow a reasonable break-in period. I used a flush because of all the machine work being done--I don't think machine shops clean up a block or head as well as the factory does.
But I always pre-lubed (I used a mixture of pre-lube and STP and made myself a nice kind of pancake batter) bearings, and primed the oil pump and had a manual oil pressure gauge hooked up in the cockpit during initial start-up.
Some engines aren't even worth rebuilding---too risky. You can tell which ones those are by their conspicuous absence in reman engine catalogs.
imid...the 2 stroke oil has a "stabilizer" in it already. Last season I didn't use the snow blower at all. And, apparently, I didn't quite run the gas all the way out in the snow blower. This season, I've gone through two tanks of gas, already (hopefully finished).
For my riding and push mower, "Stabil" goes in before I put the 4 stroke gas cans, and the mowers up for the season. I usually change oil at the beginning of every season for my mowers, though.
I get 90-100 miles in the nice weather, shifty. I just keep it below 50mph and the climate control off.
it was about 12-14 hours on a normal outlet, stick. Some folks have that 220v outlet already, of course. I put mine in for this purpose. Cost me a couple hundred bucks in material and maybe 2 hours of my time. And now its there if I ever get a bigger welder or whatever.
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@MrShift@Edmunds said:
I wouldn't even call it "break in" oil because we drained it so fast---it was used more as a flush, really.
Now I understand. It wasn't the break-in oil. Non-detergent had nothing to do with the action--it was just cheaper.
I recall using chassis grease on bearings when assembling the engines and cranking with the coil wire disconnected. That was in 1960's. Long ago...
@breld said:
Meaning he should've replaced the hoses, expansion tank, etc.?
And the water pump, fan and fan clutch, and thermostat. Yes. You don't just replace one thing on a BMW cooling system. It is ALL done by 80k miles. And the BMW coolant ain't cheap, so there is just no point in taking a shortcut or cheaping out.
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Like we've discussed, ZHPs seem to be drawing sort of crazy money - but this one may actually deserve it. 20k miles!
Kind of interesting to me that they decided to replace the sound system with the Dynavin unit when they obviously never drive the damned thing. I'd like to see the service records on it.
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This one on Ebay ain't bad.
Other than the missing bunwarmers, and I'm not sure it has a moonroof (although not my personal preference, but I know y'all like that sort of thing). Price needs to come down $500-$1k, but not an offensive starting point.
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We had a convertible E46 in that color... It's not as great looking in person. BMW has made some great looking gray colors, but that silver-gray is not my favorite...
That price is crazy, but not stupidly so... 20K miles? What a waste of a good car..
Funny - I really liked the silver-gray on my recently departed 'vert. I also had it on my '07 530xi.
The price is high compared to other ZHPs you may find, but there's just nothing else out there with such low miles. KBB has the PP value in the mid-high $17k's, so it's somewhat in line. The question I have for myself is whether the low miles are really worth the premium. I could probably be just as happy if I find something with 60-70k miles for several thousand less.
This past weekend, I actually made an offer on a '06 white ZHP coupe in California with only 32k miles. Private party was asking $19k, I offered $17.9k, but he sold it within a day to a local buyer for $18,750.
So Q - you can spot that the navigation/stereo head unit is not from the factory? I've heard of the Dynavin units, but wouldn't have known the difference.
So, I'll be out of touch for the next several days. Flying down to Ft. Lauderdale early tomorrow morning and heading out on our first family cruise (wife and I have been on three ourselves)! Wife and I, and four kids! It'll be an adventure - hopefully a relaxing adventure.
@breld said:
Alright - another ZHP I may be interested in.
[2005 ZHP coupe - 20k miles]
Like we've discussed, ZHPs seem to be drawing sort of crazy money - but this one may actually deserve it. 20k miles!
I'm really digging on that milage. Wonder what the story is on it. Condo car, old man's dream that sat in the garage. Less than 2500 miles/year. Sweet.
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@breld said:
So, I'll be out of touch for the next several days. Flying down to Ft. Lauderdale early tomorrow morning and heading out on our first family cruise (wife and I have been on three ourselves)! Wife and I, and four kids! It'll be an adventure - hopefully a relaxing adventure.
Whoa! I hope you folks have a fantastic time and the kids really enjoy the experience.
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I actually posted a link to this low mileage ZHP Coupe back a month or so ago when you first "got the hots" for a ZHP. The car is in Long Island City, Queens which is across the river from Manhattan. It's entirely possible that this person takes the subway to work every day and only drives the car on nice, summer, weekend days. If this does happen to be "the one," it's not too far out out of my way so I'd be happy to give it a visual & short test drive if you'd like.
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It's a garage tug; you use it to move all fourteen cars around in your garage without having to crank each one up. I think Leno has three or four of 'em.
@stickguy
Awesome! I'm glad the delivery went smoothly!
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@xwesx / @oldfarmer -
Thanks for your feedback on the cost per mile calculations. My maintenance costs are rolled into my lease payments, so no extra out of pocket costs there.
Yes, I work from home for both the primary job (IBM) and the tertiary job (Edmunds). The pizza gig is as much about getting out of the house and having some social interaction as it is about the extra money.
@sandman
My Hyundai dealer recommended 3750 mile oil change interval. Given that the maintenance is already paid for, I don't have any reason to not take the E-GT in every 2-3 months for service. If I call ahead, I can even arrange for a loaner car.
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I wouldn't doubt it but then they burned up the engine a second time. Doubt that was scripted.
On oil changes I'm pretty obsessive but all over the place:
Eclipse-every 5-6k with mobil 1
Wife's PT-every 3k with regular oil because she drives all short hops.
Lincoln-whenever the oil life monitor says so. Changed it when I bought it and still have 45% left.
Hooptie van-once a year or every 5k. Mainly because the cost of an oil change is just about what the thing is worth.
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Pretty near impossible blow up an engine in a few minutes unless you built it wrong. I bet they forgot to pre-lube the cam bearings. You could run that engine on the cheapest of oils, at idle, for hours and hours with no harm.
I do the '97 Subaru about every 5k, mostly because that's close to the annual mileage, and the '99 van usually gets pushed out to 9 or 10k. No great loss if the engines burn up.
Stick - congrats again on the Jetta! Sounds like a great car and a great experience!
Look forward to your impressions on the Golf.
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Not real knowledgeable in that area but I remember them saying on the show that they rounded the lobes on the cam itself because there was inadequate zinc in the oil they used. Nothing about bearings but yeah, you'd figure those would go first.
All sorts of metal in the oil. "very sparkly" as one guy put it.
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I'm not buying that one bit oldfarmer. I used to rebuild engines may be 5-6 per year at my friend John's Volvo shop, and we'd run them at fast idle for 1/2 hour with NON-detergent oil, then dump the oil and filter. Never had a problem, even with overhead cam engines. Either they didn't pre-lube, got botched up machine work, didn't prime the oil pump, bent the pickup tube, wrong parts or didn't calculate clearances properly--something like that. No way, no how it had anything to do with "zinc" on such a brief lifespan.
"Sparkly" metal in the oil---them's bearings!
new car in the driveway. Interesting color in the sunlight. One of those shades that looks much different depending on the light you see it in.
since it had 5" of snow on it this AM, and the roads were unplowed, guess who's car he took to work? Though my wife had fun texting him that the car fairy came, and left a shiny new car in the driveway, and the keys on the table!
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Saw the episode. Can't recall the zinc statement. But, my first thought was bearings, too.
Sounds like complete oil starvation to me.
@stickguy
Nice ride! I definitely dig the Blue!
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No snow here, but I drove it around in my driveway in the rain yesterday night. I mow about an acre and decided to get rid of my lawn service this year.
@corvette
How much did that run you if you don't mind me asking. I do an Acre with a self propelled push mower, but could probably do it in a 1/4 of the time with a riding mower.
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$1799 plus tax and delivery at Lowe's. I had a 10% off coupon (regular price is $1999). I looked at the D110, don't really need the larger deck of the D140 I ended up getting, but wanted the better seat and electric clutch. You might want to wait until spring to buy one that is fresh off the truck, mine looks like it was the demo model that has spent several months on display outdoors at Lowe's.
@stickguy Nice picture, I really like the color.
and we'd run them at fast idle for 1/2 hour with NON-detergent oil, then dump the oil and filter.
What was the reason for non-detergent oil?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Yeah, definitely. It's a pretty car.
@corvette
Thanks, but I think I'll just get the blades sharpened on "Ye Old Honda" and get some exercise once a week (or so) in the spring/summer/fall:)
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Faster break-in and less waste--since lots of machining was done, (new guides, flycuts, milling, sometimes line-boring), the idea was that any little bits of shavings, etc would be picked up in the cheap oil and then dumped after we did the fast idle.
Was there a difference in the ability to lubricate that made the non-detergent oil cause faster break-in of the moving parts? Or just that it was cheaper. When we rebuilt engines, my dad and I, I don't recall what break-in oil other than I believe it was a 10 weight oil.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Now calm down there Shifty, don't go spinning a bearing yourself. Next you'll be claiming that everything on a reality show isn't genuine. Like the time they had the tattooed model/welder fix a few things or when Richard interviewed a stripper for an accountant position.
Welder: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxwyLD69yPW78d9XbMIeemaJVYw0RUsSEK-ulyGtp67AXHCMRl2Q
Shelby Mustang: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/199xf1b3qikaljpg/k-medium.jpg
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I got one from Lowe's and they delivered it without blades.
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I got a Husqvarna (looked at that exact Deere model, too) that looked like it had been sitting on the floor for awhile (and yes, I did get them to negotiate on it). It was delivered with the wrong blades, which really threw it way off balance. Got them to send someone out to put the right blades on, and got a $50 gift card for me troubles.
Used it all last year without a hiccup, but also forgot to change the oil (which I'll do this season).
10 year old Torro snow blower (2 stroke) has never had a new plug put in. All I've ever done is gas it up. It has electric start. First start of the seaons takes a little coaxing, but after that, it runs like a champ.
Is that because of old gas? Do you run it dry or put in Stabil and run it before storing? I have the same thing with my Toro lawn mower. When I left stale gas in the line and bowl over winter, it was a bear to start. Dry or Stabil and fresh gas in spring and it was much easier to start.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I wouldn't even call it "break in" oil because we drained it so fast---it was used more as a flush, really. I think many new engines these days come "factory fill" with synthetic, so obviously even the best oils will allow a reasonable break-in period. I used a flush because of all the machine work being done--I don't think machine shops clean up a block or head as well as the factory does.
But I always pre-lubed (I used a mixture of pre-lube and STP and made myself a nice kind of pancake batter) bearings, and primed the oil pump and had a manual oil pressure gauge hooked up in the cockpit during initial start-up.
Some engines aren't even worth rebuilding---too risky. You can tell which ones those are by their conspicuous absence in reman engine catalogs.
imid...the 2 stroke oil has a "stabilizer" in it already. Last season I didn't use the snow blower at all. And, apparently, I didn't quite run the gas all the way out in the snow blower. This season, I've gone through two tanks of gas, already (hopefully finished).
For my riding and push mower, "Stabil" goes in before I put the 4 stroke gas cans, and the mowers up for the season. I usually change oil at the beginning of every season for my mowers, though.
Figured, what the hell, I'll give this a shot since it was free:
http://www.carleasedepot.com/Nissan-lease-takeover-Trenton-New-Jersey/3527.html
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Gee that does sound like a good deal. Wish I were closer to you. In milder California weather, could I get 75 miles range with it?
Not a bad idea. Would function for me but timing nit right.
How long dies it take to charge on a normal outlet? I doubt anyone would put in a 220 line for 10 months
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I get 90-100 miles in the nice weather, shifty. I just keep it below 50mph and the climate control off.
it was about 12-14 hours on a normal outlet, stick. Some folks have that 220v outlet already, of course. I put mine in for this purpose. Cost me a couple hundred bucks in material and maybe 2 hours of my time. And now its there if I ever get a bigger welder or whatever.
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Boy, this seems like a nice wagon at a good price.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=753928
If I had any need for it, I'd consider it myself (not that "need" ever truly figured into a purchase).
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Pricey. Looks like about $6500 would be more than fair offer with all bonuses for extra wheels and tires and condition.
Now I understand. It wasn't the break-in oil. Non-detergent had nothing to do with the action--it was just cheaper.
I recall using chassis grease on bearings when assembling the engines and cranking with the coil wire disconnected. That was in 1960's. Long ago...
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
so he replaced the radiator only?? That's a huge mistake.
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Meaning he should've replaced the hoses, expansion tank, etc.?
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Alright - another ZHP I may be interested in.
2005 ZHP coupe - 20k miles
Like we've discussed, ZHPs seem to be drawing sort of crazy money - but this one may actually deserve it. 20k miles!
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Love the color on that ZHP
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And the water pump, fan and fan clutch, and thermostat. Yes. You don't just replace one thing on a BMW cooling system. It is ALL done by 80k miles. And the BMW coolant ain't cheap, so there is just no point in taking a shortcut or cheaping out.
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Kind of interesting to me that they decided to replace the sound system with the Dynavin unit when they obviously never drive the damned thing. I'd like to see the service records on it.
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This one on Ebay ain't bad.
Other than the missing bunwarmers, and I'm not sure it has a moonroof (although not my personal preference, but I know y'all like that sort of thing). Price needs to come down $500-$1k, but not an offensive starting point.
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There's a nice 57K mile ZHP sedan on C/L in Louisville, but it's black on black AND a slushbox.
Meh...
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We had a convertible E46 in that color... It's not as great looking in person. BMW has made some great looking gray colors, but that silver-gray is not my favorite...
That price is crazy, but not stupidly so... 20K miles? What a waste of a good car..
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Funny - I really liked the silver-gray on my recently departed 'vert. I also had it on my '07 530xi.
The price is high compared to other ZHPs you may find, but there's just nothing else out there with such low miles. KBB has the PP value in the mid-high $17k's, so it's somewhat in line. The question I have for myself is whether the low miles are really worth the premium. I could probably be just as happy if I find something with 60-70k miles for several thousand less.
This past weekend, I actually made an offer on a '06 white ZHP coupe in California with only 32k miles. Private party was asking $19k, I offered $17.9k, but he sold it within a day to a local buyer for $18,750.
So Q - you can spot that the navigation/stereo head unit is not from the factory? I've heard of the Dynavin units, but wouldn't have known the difference.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
So, I'll be out of touch for the next several days. Flying down to Ft. Lauderdale early tomorrow morning and heading out on our first family cruise (wife and I have been on three ourselves)! Wife and I, and four kids! It'll be an adventure - hopefully a relaxing adventure.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
I'm really digging on that milage. Wonder what the story is on it. Condo car, old man's dream that sat in the garage. Less than 2500 miles/year. Sweet.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Whoa! I hope you folks have a fantastic time and the kids really enjoy the experience.
Thanks!
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
@breld
I actually posted a link to this low mileage ZHP Coupe back a month or so ago when you first "got the hots" for a ZHP. The car is in Long Island City, Queens which is across the river from Manhattan. It's entirely possible that this person takes the subway to work every day and only drives the car on nice, summer, weekend days. If this does happen to be "the one," it's not too far out out of my way so I'd be happy to give it a visual & short test drive if you'd like.
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