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  • sb55sb55 On an Island in VermontPosts: 498
    breld said:

    Congrats, @breld!

    Out of curiosity, what was the net hit on the V90 lease?

    I basically bought it for $49,123 (that was the cap cost with nothing down, MSRP was about $68k), had it for just over 10 months, and the Porsche dealer gave me $42,000 for it. Just over $700/month depreciation - not bad for me.

    breld said:

    Congrats, @breld!

    Out of curiosity, what was the net hit on the V90 lease?

    I basically bought it for $49,123 (that was the cap cost with nothing down, MSRP was about $68k), had it for just over 10 months, and the Porsche dealer gave me $42,000 for it. Just over $700/month depreciation - not bad for me.

    I wish I knew that you were trading the V90. I have been looking:)

    2007 Miata PRHT, 2014 BMW 535d X-drive, 2017 Chevy Silverado LTZ Ext. cab with 6.2 V-8

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 7,072
    mjfloyd1 said:
    I know the roads in Michigan are bad, but come on...
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    qbrozen said:

    breld said:


    I basically bought it for $49,123 (that was the cap cost with nothing down).

    Was that total cap with all fees and taxes? I don't recall, did you trade anything during that deal? And was it $0 down or $0 DAS?
    breld said:

    BtoB Warranty good through May 2023 and there’s a prepaid maintenance plan that will cover the next service (10k was already done).

    LOL! The next owner will appreciate that. It is transferable, right?

    Cayenne exterior is pretty. If it had a light interior, I might have been interested in a few months when it is time for you to change it out.
    Cap cost was $48,880 before $995 lease acq fee. So total cap cost was $49,875 and I wrote a check at signing of $751 total. Monthly payment was $638 before tax. That $751 was inclusive of the first month’s payment (not entirely sure what the difference was, but wasn’t too worried about it).

    No trade on that one (we sold the A5 separately).

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    sb55 said:

    breld said:

    Congrats, @breld!

    Out of curiosity, what was the net hit on the V90 lease?

    I basically bought it for $49,123 (that was the cap cost with nothing down, MSRP was about $68k), had it for just over 10 months, and the Porsche dealer gave me $42,000 for it. Just over $700/month depreciation - not bad for me.

    breld said:

    Congrats, @breld!

    Out of curiosity, what was the net hit on the V90 lease?

    I basically bought it for $49,123 (that was the cap cost with nothing down, MSRP was about $68k), had it for just over 10 months, and the Porsche dealer gave me $42,000 for it. Just over $700/month depreciation - not bad for me.

    I wish I knew that you were trading the V90. I have been looking:)
    Oh no! I would have loved to made another sale to a fellow member!

    To be quite honest, @jpp75 has a fully loaded 2017 V90 CC with low miles that he would likely be interested in selling. Feel free to PM me if that interests you.

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    Quick tire/rim question...

    I will put snow tires on the Cayenne, which has a staggered setup.

    9 x 20 wheels in front, 275/45/20 tires.
    10.5 x 20 wheel in rear, 305/40/20 tires.

    There are at least a few options to get the same staggered set of winter tires, but what I’d like to do is to go square all around (for cost and winter performance) and put the 275/45/20 front size on all four.

    Can I put that narrower tire on the 10.5” wide rear wheel?

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 7,072
    I’d suggest looking at bestusedtires to see if you can find a set of snows. Given how frequently you swap, it may not be worth buying new.
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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    edited September 13
    Yeah, I always check craigslist first. I’ll give bestusedtires a shot too. Thanks for the suggestion.

    I’ve become quite accustomed to selling lightly used winter tires on craigslist. Kind of a pain.

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,749
    Ditching a Volvo for a Porsche is a World Class Punch!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,159
    edited September 13
    breld said:

    Quick tire/rim question...

    I will put snow tires on the Cayenne, which has a staggered setup.

    9 x 20 wheels in front, 275/45/20 tires.
    10.5 x 20 wheel in rear, 305/40/20 tires.

    There are at least a few options to get the same staggered set of winter tires, but what I’d like to do is to go square all around (for cost and winter performance) and put the 275/45/20 front size on all four.

    Can I put that narrower tire on the 10.5” wide rear wheel?

    No. 275 is more than an inch narrower than 305. Even if you managed getting them on, they’d be stretched terribly. If you want square, you gotta get the same size wheel front and back. If you think about it, stretching a tire could also screw with the AWD system since it would result in a lower profile.

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 52-car history and counting!

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,347
    I would want winter wheels anyway instead of swapping tires on and off the good wheels. But if the tirerack packages aren't more expensive to do staggered, what difference does it make?

    and dumb question, but does it have summer or all season tires on it now? And if all season, do you really need winter tires now with working from home, etc.?

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    Thanks Q - I was planning on confirming with Discount Tire either way, but that insight is helpful.

    Not all that much more costly to just get the wider rear tires. I read somewhere that the staggered setup was not ideal for winter tires, but I’m assuming it’s negligible.

    Ideally, most owners would get a separate winter set of wheels/tires, and I used to do that more often. That’s good for the long run over several seasons of changing them out, but you know, I’m me.

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    On a separate note, if anyone is ever in the market for all weather mats, I love the 3D Maxpider Kagu mats. I’ve had them on several vehicles - they fit well, have great coverage, are easy to clean, and have a nice look and feel. I much prefer them to the traditional OEM all weather mats.




    As luck would have it, someone on eBay was selling a set of them for the Cayenne (after only keeping the car for a few months - can you imagine?) for a great price. I also found a local seller on eBay for the retractable cargo cover that mine didn’t have.

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,839
    Good choice. Those look a lot like the Weathertech FloorLiners I got for the Tahoe.
  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    stickguy said:

    I would want winter wheels anyway instead of swapping tires on and off the good wheels. But if the tirerack packages aren't more expensive to do staggered, what difference does it make?

    and dumb question, but does it have summer or all season tires on it now? And if all season, do you really need winter tires now with working from home, etc.?

    Yeah, hardly any difference, so easier to just get the staggered set.

    I believe it has all seasons on it now, which yes, would probably be just fine. We’ve become accustomed to the additional confidence of winter tires.

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 162,516
    breld said:

    stickguy said:

    I would want winter wheels anyway instead of swapping tires on and off the good wheels. But if the tirerack packages aren't more expensive to do staggered, what difference does it make?

    and dumb question, but does it have summer or all season tires on it now? And if all season, do you really need winter tires now with working from home, etc.?

    Yeah, hardly any difference, so easier to just get the staggered set.

    I believe it has all seasons on it now, which yes, would probably be just fine. We’ve become accustomed to the additional confidence of winter tires.
    And I've lived in Colorado for over 25 years, and never bought a set of winter tires.

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  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWPosts: 2,976

    Michaell said:

    Hey folks. I know we talked about this several months ago, but the wife and I are in the market for a new mattress. She thinks she wants to get a Tempur-pedic, but I can't remember what the feedback was from the Peanut gallery here.

    Purple....swear by it. Had both Temperpedic and Sleep Number. Purple...hands down. 5 years old an no sag, and feels like the day I bought it.

    Posted before, but I also really like my Purple 2 - it is a mid firmness model, hybrid. The Purple is the softest and the Purple 3 the firmest.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWPosts: 2,976
    Congrats to the Grand Poobah, Beld, on the Cayenne - I also really like the shade of blue.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,159
    Unless you plan on driving in snow in the next few weeks, I think you should save the money. The next buyer won’t give extra for 2 sets of tires. ;b

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 52-car history and counting!

  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 2,662
    breld said:

    Quick tire/rim question...

    I will put snow tires on the Cayenne, which has a staggered setup.

    9 x 20 wheels in front, 275/45/20 tires.
    10.5 x 20 wheel in rear, 305/40/20 tires.

    There are at least a few options to get the same staggered set of winter tires, but what I’d like to do is to go square all around (for cost and winter performance) and put the 275/45/20 front size on all four.

    Can I put that narrower tire on the 10.5” wide rear wheel?

    Nice punch; I like the blues, as you all know.
    These tires are the same size as on my X. Tire size.com calculator site says, FWIW-

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  • dad23dad23 ColoradoPosts: 529
    Congrats @breld, looks like another fine addition and I have to agree with the others, the color is gorgeous!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,159
    tifighter said:

    breld said:

    Quick tire/rim question...

    I will put snow tires on the Cayenne, which has a staggered setup.

    9 x 20 wheels in front, 275/45/20 tires.
    10.5 x 20 wheel in rear, 305/40/20 tires.

    There are at least a few options to get the same staggered set of winter tires, but what I’d like to do is to go square all around (for cost and winter performance) and put the 275/45/20 front size on all four.

    Can I put that narrower tire on the 10.5” wide rear wheel?

    Nice punch; I like the blues, as you all know.
    These tires are the same size as on my X. Tire size.com calculator site says, FWIW-

    That’s kind of interesting. It would seem you could get away with 275 all around. Still not terribly sure how or if the resulting height difference would affect the AWD. I have seen, however, different makes/models of tires have different wheel size suggestions, so might want to double check with the manufacturer’s specs on a particular tire you are considering.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 1,004
    @breld. Those Pirelli Verde all season are rated 7.5/10 for snow traction. I’d give them a shot. You probably won’t keep it more than 1 snow season. Just sayin’
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 168,071
    @breld The wife says you are safe. She wants a Macan. ;)

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,347
    There’s a black over black one near me. I don’t have the faintest idea how realistic the price is, but miles are low!

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2018-porsche-macan-used-wp1aa2a56jlb10282.html

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  • dad23dad23 ColoradoPosts: 529
    edited September 14
    11,977 CERTIFIRD MILES, does that mean it was driven differently? ;)
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,839
    dad23 said:

    11,977 CERTIFIRD MILES, does that mean it was driven differently? ;)

    Maybe it means they didn't roll the odometer back on that one? :p
  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,539
    @breld.....yum...I like it. Way to go. You always have the coolest cars in your garage.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 168,071
    stickguy said:

    There’s a black over black one near me. I don’t have the faintest idea how realistic the price is, but miles are low!

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2018-porsche-macan-used-wp1aa2a56jlb10282.html

    Pretty. Macans aren't hard to find. Caymans on the other hand.... :(

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    There’s a black over black one near me. I don’t have the faintest idea how realistic the price is, but miles are low!

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2018-porsche-macan-used-wp1aa2a56jlb10282.html

    Pretty. Macans aren't hard to find. Caymans on the other hand.... :(
    Well if you find one you like out here let me know. I can buy it, enjoy it for a few months and then you can have another nice trip out to Denver. 😀

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 168,071
    breld said:

    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    There’s a black over black one near me. I don’t have the faintest idea how realistic the price is, but miles are low!

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2018-porsche-macan-used-wp1aa2a56jlb10282.html

    Pretty. Macans aren't hard to find. Caymans on the other hand.... :(
    Well if you find one you like out here let me know. I can buy it, enjoy it for a few months and then you can have another nice trip out to Denver. 😀
    B)

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,347
    Instead of a cayman, why not a nice, gently used Supra?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 168,071
    stickguy said:

    Instead of a cayman, why not a nice, gently used Supra?

    Go for it!

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    Anyone have experience with Vredestein tires? Tire Rack has some winter tires for the Cayenne from that brand that seem very affordable.

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 1,004
    They are very good winter tires
  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    mjfloyd1 said:

    They are very good winter tires

    Thanks - that's all I needed. Just ordered them.

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,347
    I was looking at their all seasons for when my daughters Jetta finally needs new ones

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,347
    So, I went through with downsizing. The TLX loaded up onto the Carvana truck and took off. Weird feeling. Going to take a while to get used to it. I think my wife misses her already (her name was Ruby). Just not once a month when the payment came out!

    Probably a Mistake, but my car history was littered with those. Just need to see how long I can hold out now. Shooting for Presidents’ Day unless the right used car drops into my lap.

    Speaking of which, anyone have opinions on a 2013 golf GTI Mk6 autobahn? 6 speed, 61,000 miles.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • the space saver spare in my Macan is Vredestein.. so OEM...
    breld said:

    Anyone have experience with Vredestein tires? Tire Rack has some winter tires for the Cayenne from that brand that seem very affordable.

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    A mistake to get rid of it? Nah. TLX is easy to replace, even if you simply wanted another one.

    I agree with the experience being a bit weird. When they dropped off my (now @kyfdx's) GTI and loaded up my Miata RF, I was pretty sad to see that go. Cool car it was. But like I said above about your TLX, a Miata is pretty easy to replace too.

    Either way - congrats on downsizing! President's Day? I give it 'til New Years. I'm usually on the other end of these bets, so I'm happy to throw out a prediction for someone else.

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,200
    MK6 GTI is nice, though getting a bit outdated with an MK8 coming out soon. But the Autobahn trim is great - any pictures to share?

    I guess it all depends on the pricing and condition.

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI Hardtop S

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 162,516
    @stickguy - welcome to the world of car sharing. It's nice here - you'll like it. I get the itch to either 1) add something for myself, or 2) swap the Outback for something nicer.

    I was looking at used A4 allroads over the weekend. Audi has a color called Gotland Green that is very appealing. Found one in Santa Barbara that was reasonably priced.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,347
    If the daughter hadn’t moved out back in May it would have been easier. She at least is excited to have a garage beau now for her frequent visits home.

    If I really felt like it, I could take half what they just paid me, and put I’d down on a new lease and pocket the rest. So I really am not worried about being car less forever.

    Will probably go drive a GTI at some point, just to see how it is. The 2013 just popped up at my local Subaru dealer. But no pictures or price yet.

    From some quick googling, sounds like best to stick with either a 2013 or 2014 Mk6, or a 2018+ mk7. Maybe a 2017. But avoid 2012 and prior, and the early 7s.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,347
    breld said:

    MK6 GTI is nice, though getting a bit outdated with an MK8 coming out soon. But the Autobahn trim is great - any pictures to share?

    I guess it all depends on the pricing and condition.

    Always does! Outdated does not bother me too much, as long as it has Bluetooth, or can easily have a head unit added with Bluetooth and CarPlay.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,159

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,347
    It is, but I don’t think I could deal with RHD over here. It was fine in Ireland!

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,683
    When I was out cruising in the Olds yesterday I stopped in at the VW dealer just for fun and they had 4 or 5 new GTIs on the lot. None of them were in the trim/color I would prefer. The one that looked best to me was a red one in Autobahn trim, but it was a stick which given my knee situation is ruled out. Plus being an Autobahn it had black leather inside which I would not want. The did have a base trim with DSG but it had 2 strikes against it. It was in an unattractive dark grey paint (later on I learned the website calls it Dark Iron Blue which strikes me as odd since I didn't see even a hint of blue to it), and the base 17" wheels are not attractive at all, being just painted silver, while the upgrade 18" wheels are polished with black accents and are the way to go. The base wheels look like just another 5-spoke wheel you would find on any VW. They also had one trimmed the same with the plaid cloth and DSG but it was black and I wouldn't want that color either.

    The other thing that gave me pause was looking at them on the dealer website when I got home. The base cars are $35K sticker, the Autobahn models $40K. No idea what discounts might be available. That strikes me as a bit pricey.

    Thanks to Sarah-n-Tuned's Youtube page I discovered her review of the Camry TRD. That was something I didn't even know existed but she really liked it and aside from the wing and the matte black wheels it seems like a fun car and it is cheaper than any new GTI. Interesting out-of-left-field option.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,347
    Oh, forgot to add, the Carvana sale was exceptionally efficient. He was early, a couple minutes for a basic look over, sign a few papers and get the check. Probably 10 minutes end to end, a few of which were me taking off the plates since I hadn’t gotten around to it!

    Nice guy. Really liked the car. But he probably tells everyone that.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,683
    Stick, you may need to change your handle on here to "NJ Breld" or similar. :smile:

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