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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 171,065

    @[email protected] said:
    The Vibes/Matrixes keep making those lists. My wife, bless her, out of the blue started looking at used minivans on craigslist (and pickups - one of those could be handy for our upcoming move at the end of the summer).

    If the move is taking you to NM, you've got to swing through Colorado again and meet up.

    Are you going to get to 200K before getting something else?

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  • steverstever Posts: 52,457

    @[email protected] said:
    Are you going to get to 200K before getting something else?

    Hopefully, if only for the bragging rights. :)

    The pizza is on me.

  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 2,701

    @nyccarguy said:
    Check this out CCBA members:

    Top 10 High Quality Low Cost Used Cars

    Steve Lang knows his stuff. His point isn't what the best used car is, it is what cars get overlooked in everyone's quest to overpay for a used Toyota.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 171,065

    @[email protected] said:
    The pizza is on me.

    Well, if that's the case, I know a few pizza joints in my town that serve beer.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,572

    I can agree with just about everything on there. The only ones I would never own are the Cherokee and Park Ave.

    Michaell - in NJ, you are taxed on what you use, but can reduce that with a trade-in. So if the depreciation on the lease will be $12k and your trade is worth $6k, you only pay tax on the $6k remaining. If your trade is worth $15k, you pay $0 tax. And, no, you don't get a tax refund for any excess. :wink:

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460

    Forgot to mention, after I looked at the Del Sol on Saturday, I was still in a "Honda" mood, so I stopped and drove that '93 red Legend Coupe 6-speed I had posted here a few weeks ago.

    Not bad - cosmetically looked pretty good. "Normal Wear" rock chips on the hood, some paint fading here and there, worn leather on the passenger's seat but no tears anywhere. Drove nicely, though the brakes need to be replaced - I discovered that when coming to a somewhat unexpected stop and my heart raced a bit as I neared the car in front.

    But, nothing I'm too interested - more intrigued by a "classic" 4 cylinder/manual Honda.

    Though if I were interested in something like that Legend, I'd steer more toward something like this:

    Acura CL Type S 6-speed

    Probably a little safer bet. Another car I really wanted back in the day. Can you tell I'm all nostalgic for Honda products now?

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 20,333
    edited March 2014

    OK, where are the BMW guys? One of you should snap this up!
    http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/4375994393.html

    Can someone tell me what "pentrosi oil' or a trunk "oil bag" is?

    1100.00 for a seat rail? Maybe BMW really stands for Breaks More Wallets!

    Not for the faint of heart for sure!

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 20,333

    Oh, I suppose this one could be even more expensive to maintain...

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/4392095969.html

    Maybe not?

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,572
    edited March 2014

    haha. no thanks!

    My wife's minivan could give that thing a fit in a straight line. haha. Ok, slight overstatement, but not by much! Its just not worth the price of entry (and maintenance!) only to look good, IMHO.

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 53-car history and counting!

  • fintailfintail Posts: 52,265

    Nice F355, dreamy price, I am always leery of sellers who can't spell simple words.

    The BMW is a money pit, but those are awfully pretty, it is easy to see how they lure people in.

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 20,333

    Hopefully a potential buyer will do his/her homework first.

    In that extensive list of work that was recently done, except for the tires, most of those items listed weren't major repair items.

    I wonder what a valve job would run?

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 14,253

    Dropped the boss off at the dealer today to get his vehicle out of the service department and saw this on the front row of the used car lot:

    http://www.steelepremium.com/used/BMW/2007-BMW-Z4-91c8847b0a0a00650060e277a61fd5f0.htm

    Don't think I've ever seen one of these around here before. This one was arresting in looks. From what I read they are not particularly nice to drive on the rough pavement one finds around here. And I doubt if I would fit comfortably. Seems to me that in a car like this you want the top to drop. But it sure catches the eye.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 52,265

    I could see a valve job being a 3K+ - engine rebuild would be 5 figures no doubt.

    Funny, I saw a 645/650 cabrio at the Jiffy Lube in downtown Bellevue today, young woman with huge sunglasses was taking it in. Not sure if I'd have mine serviced there, given the amount of good indy shops around here. I am sure the place is fine to have a 1999 Civrolla serviced, but a 6er, I dunno.

    I like those Z coupes and the "clown shoe" models too, but I too think I wouldn't be comfortable.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,431

    @ab348‌

    I dig those cars.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 176,650

    @ab348 said:
    Dropped the boss off at the dealer today to get his vehicle out of the service department and saw this on the front row of the used car lot:

    http://www.steelepremium.com/used/BMW/2007-BMW-Z4-91c8847b0a0a00650060e277a61fd5f0.htm

    Don't think I've ever seen one of these around here before. This one was arresting in looks. From what I read they are not particularly nice to drive on the rough pavement one finds around here. And I doubt if I would fit comfortably. Seems to me that in a car like this you want the top to drop. But it sure catches the eye.

    For $2K more, you could have the M version of that same car.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 8,072

    @fintail said:
    Nice F355, dreamy price, I am always leery of sellers who can't spell simple words.

    I'm not familiar with the market, but I think aftermarket crap on a Ferrari would be a negative.

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 14,106

    An 8 Series is a great car if you can handle most of the wrenching yourself AND if you know where to get parts at a realistic price. For example, the guy in the ad got hosed on the "seat rail"-although it's more than just a seat track, as it actually contains some of the motors for the electric adjustments. Me, if I had to choose between a new FWD appliance of a sedan and an 8 Series at half the price I'd take the risk on the 8er every time. Life is too short to spend drive time in a four wheeled Purgatory...

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,572

    Z4 price is nuts. That's about $10k over dealer auction. $21k is more like it.

    F355 is even crazier. These just aren't worth that much. Most recent to cross the block was about 4 mos ago with similar miles but black ... it got a whopping $27,500. Most expensive was about 10 mos ago, but that was proper red with only 12k miles, and hit $52k.

    For still less than that $75k price, you could have yourself a 2001 360 spyder that just sold a couple of weeks ago for $60,500. That was burgundy with 23k miles. Or how bout a blue '02 with 18k for $63k?

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,482

    F355----not a bad car, but step up just a little for a 360 and you'll have a better daily driver. The F355 was prone to having bad exhaust manifolds, at $2500 bucks a pop for the part alone, and bad valve guides. Also, Ferrari wants you to change cam belts at 5 year intervals, and that's an engine-out service. I don't expect Oil Changers will be doing that for you.

  • nextcar3nextcar3 Posts: 9

    Hello everyone
    Finally created an account here. Bought my first car in 2010 (07 Jetta) traded it in for a 12 GTI (lease). Both a Beetle for wife last Nov. Already looking for a new car even though there is nothing wrong with the GTI. Its 'upside down' currently which makes justifying a new lease difficult. Not sure how long I can control myself.

  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602

    @nextcar3 said:
    Hello everyone
    Finally created an account here. Bought my first car in 2010 (07 Jetta) traded it in for a 12 GTI (lease). Both a Beetle for wife last Nov. Already looking for a new car even though there is nothing wrong with the GTI. Its 'upside down' currently which makes justifying a new lease difficult. Not sure how long I can control myself.

    Let your financial situation restrain you and keep posting here. There is no cost involved for joining the discussion. Leases are tough to get out of, so keep the GTI and be a buyer next time. As a buyer, it's much easier to throw money away. I should know -- story of my life.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,431

    @nextcar‌

    Welcome to our support group, club, internet forum board full of certified whackos... Err, welcome here B)

    1st off, what's "wrong" with the GTI and how much upside down are you on it? 2nd, how long until you are not upside down? 3rd, What are you going to replace the GTI with?

    WARNING We like to do 2 things on this board, buy cars for ourselves and spend other board members' money:)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 52,265
    edited April 2014

    If I was shopping for a used Ferrari, I'd be after a 456 or maybe a 550-575 as they have depreciated a lot and seem to be a lot of bang for the buck, for the brand anyway. 612 will get there soon, too. The 360-430 cars don't do anything for me, I find the 355 styling to be more classic. But that's just me. If I was shopping for a new one, I'd probably only want the FF.

    @[email protected] said:
    F355----not a bad car, but step up just a little for a 360 and you'll have a better daily driver. The F355 was prone to having bad exhaust manifolds, at $2500 bucks a pop for the part alone, and bad valve guides. Also, Ferrari wants you to change cam belts at 5 year intervals, and that's an engine-out service. I don't expect Oil Changers will be doing that for you.

  • nextcar3nextcar3 Posts: 9

    There is nothing wrong with the GTI (apart from the audio system). This makes it difficult to convince the wife that I "need" a new car. I have a negative equity of ~$2.5k (last I checked). Looking to replace it with a 3-series/X1/RX 350. Looked at Cadenza (looks like a great value for money) but not sure if I want to spend so much for a Kia. This time want a car with a lot more bells and whistles than just a driver's car.

    @nyccarguy said:
    nextcar‌

    Welcome to our support group, club, internet forum board full of certified whackos... Err, welcome here B)

    1st off, what's "wrong" with the GTI and how much upside down are you on it? 2nd, how long until you are not upside down? 3rd, What are you going to replace the GTI with?

    WARNING We like to do 2 things on this board, buy cars for ourselves and spend other board members' money:)

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460

    From what I understand, VW Credit leases are among the harder ones to get out of, or for non-VW dealers to deal with as a trade-in. That's one of the reasons I just recently bought out my Passat lease (and financed it as a traditional purchase) - doesn't change anything as far as the equity, but it does provide more flexibility as a trade option.

    Best way to mitigate the effects of trading out often? Buy used.

    If you don't prefer to do that, your best bet is probably to trade for another VW. A VW dealer will be more apt to work a deal on the lease.

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460
    edited April 2014

    By the way, what are the particulars on your GTI and where do you live? How much do you need to get out of it? ;)

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  • jpp75jpp75 DenverPosts: 1,436

    @breld said:
    So I "bought" my car today. As I had intended to do at some point, I purchased my Passat out of its lease. As I expected and hoped, the payoff was simply the cap cost, reduced by the three payments made so far (the first one by VW Credit), taking into account the effective interest for those three months. So, didn't have to pay the rental charge for the stated term, no term or disposition fees (since I was purchasing the car). They tried to tack on the $499 dealer handling, but I kindly expressed my opinion that it wasn't stipulated in the lease contract, and they backed it off. Paid sales tax of course on the payoff amount.

    Put a chunk down on the payoff and financed the remainder at 2.24%. Pretty good for essentially financing a "used" car.

    So, pretty happy with the approach of leasing to take advantage of the lease incentives (huge for VW), then converting to a purchase.

    I'm actually planning to do the same thing with my Q50 Hybrid. When I leased it Infiniti was offering $3,250 in lease cash that reduced the cap cost, which wasn't available if you were buying outright. We're really happy with the car, so much so that we're already 1,000 miles over where we should be after 3 months. Now that I'm satisfied there aren't any major gremlins I'm fine with buying it out and doing pretty much what you're doing (putting a chunk down and financing the rest at 1.99%).

  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 2,701
    edited April 2014

    @fintail said:
    If I was shopping for a used Ferrari, I'd be after a 456 or maybe a 550-575 as they have depreciated a lot and seem to be a lot of bang for the buck, for the brand anyway. 612 will get there soon, too. The 360-430 cars don't do anything for me, I find the 355 styling to be more classic. But that's just me. If I was shopping for a new one, I'd probably only want the FF.

    I could have written the same thing. I like the big front-engine GT cars and love the FF. I always liked the old 412 too, but they are supposed to drive like a truck. The mid-engine cars? Meh.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,572

    @fintail said:
    If I was shopping for a used Ferrari, I'd be after a 456 or maybe a 550-575 as they have depreciated a lot and seem to be a lot of bang for the buck, for the brand anyway. 612 will get there soon, too. The 360-430 cars don't do anything for me, I find the 355 styling to be more classic. But that's just me. If I was shopping for a new one, I'd probably only want the FF.

    I'm with ya on the 456. The 4-seat ferraris always suffer the most depreciation it seems.

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  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,440

    The 550 and 575's are nice but the interiors on them look ancient for some reason after sitting in a few of them. But I do love the way they look outside. Those are 2 seater by the way.

    The 456, and the 612 were actually 4 seaters. 612 being replaced by the FF.

    boomchek: driven 10,000+ cars, sold 1000+ cars, owned 50+ cars

  • fintailfintail Posts: 52,265
    edited April 2014

    Cool, I like the old 400 series cars too. Very classy, but apparently, not very good cars to live with. For mid engined, I'd be as happy with a 328 as a modern one.

    90s era Ferraris can be pretty chintzy inside. I remember looking at a 456 and being very unimpressed with the switchgear.

    @tifighter said:

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,431

    Ferraris?

    From a style standpoint, I've always loved the mid engined Ferraris. F355, F360, F430, & the 458 Italia is probably the most beautiful automobile I've ever laid my eyes on.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,347

    may actually have to shop seriously in the near future. Been poking around in the job market, and have an interview with an interesting place in the morning. Only issue is, that it is on the other side of Philly from me. So depending on how I went (direct through LemkoLand, or the all highway loop around) it is either ~25 or 45 miles each way.

    since it will be a primarily in the office job (Yuck, people still do that? :o ), definitely need a new set of wheels to beat up. of course that seriously adds to the expenses to factor in to how big a raise is needed to make it worth doing!

    Have decided that the likely way is more miles but generally open highway instead of stop/go through city neighborhoods (actually should be quicker), but 90/day adds up quick. I have thus decided that a mid-size that gets great highway MPG is the way to go. Better range over a compact (much bigger tank, almost same MPG), more comfort, all that good stuff. Something like an Altima or Accord. I suppose a Passat could work (though a Jetta would be in a gray area). Diesel would be assume range wise, but probably would not get involved in that.

    most likely would stay away from a nice Euro for this use (so no new S60 :'( ) thanks to cost and mind numbing depreciation. Not sure if I would ever move, so might have to consider this a 6 year/200K type deal. By then, one of us (the car or me) would probably be dead!

    In honor of a few here, I suppose I should look at a Malibu too.

    probably new, but slightly used could make sense, but I hate that shopping, and with deals out there now, probably not saving enough to make it worthwhile.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 171,065

    Breld - you planning to go to the Denver auto show? I'm pretty sure I'll be there next Saturday. Let me know.

    Daughter is still on the fence about the Countryman, though she did tell us tonight that the dealer is offering a loyalty bonus. Guess she's been poking around on the dealer website. I'm trying to get her to the dealer for a test drive.

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  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 2,701
    edited April 2014

    Speaking of range, there are some guys on the accord forums getting 700 mile tanks on all freeway drives. Works out to about 42mpg avg. More exception than the rule for sure. But it shows the capability is there, and on regular unleaded to boot. I fill around a quarter tank, so no personal experience, but 500 miles is pretty easy in mixed commuting.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,431

    @stickguy‌

    Get the job 1st (obviously), but it is always nice to plan. 90 miles R/T is quite a commute. That's 450 miles per week. With the cheap financing, mega rebates, and below way below invoice pricing, I think it is smart you go new. Good choice wanting to pick something mid-sized.

    Range is key, not just gas mileage. My biggest gripe about both my Pilot and my 328xi are the somewhat limited range. Straight highway, cruise set at 65, I can get 360 miles to a tank on the Pilot. If I tried hard, I could squeeze 380 - 400 miles out of a tank on my 328xi, but that's not fun.

    The Altima is a great choice because it will most likely cost you the least (up front) and will get you mid 30s on the highway with fantastic range. I'm not entirely familiar with the way Nissan packages their cars, but I'm sure you could get it with backup camera, sunroof, hot seats, blind spot alert. Nissans in general have rather large gas tanks. Nissan wants to sell more of these than Camrys and they constantly have massive discounts and huge rebates.

    Nobody will fault you for looking at an Accord either. Nice car, loaded with features like sunroof, hot seats, lane watch, backup camera (I'd assume you'd spring for an EX-L). Comfortable, great gas mileage, decent range, & Honda usually has cheap financing (1.9% or 0.9%). It won't be the cheapest car to purchase up front, but in 5 years with over 100K miles it will be worth more than any other car in the segment with similar miles in the same condition.

    I understand the Jetta being a "grey area" for you as you don't want the same car as Junior:) I think you should definitely look at a Passat. I'd be curious about a TDI, but I'm still not convinced (no matter how much I love the WHAT WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO DRIVE A DIESEL CAR board) that it is worth the price premium over the 1.8T, worth the $.50 + (at least in NY & CT) per gallon up charge of ULSD over RUG, mandatory dealer maintenance (it requires AdBlue every 10K miles plus an expensive DSG fluid change every 30 or 40K). Now when it comes time to dump it, then the 100K Passat TDI will most likely fetch more than a 1.8. Some here have commented they don't like how the DSG in the TDI shifts and prefer the regualr old 6 speed automatic. It will get you that European ride without beating you up. Both the TDI & 1.8 get good range and great mileage.

    Keep us updated

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,703

    @qbrozen said:
    I'm with ya on the 456. The 4-seat ferraris always suffer the most depreciation it seems.

    Boy would I love to own a Ferrari, of any type, before I leave this life. But, I wouldn't know the first thing about how to maintain one. And, to the best of my knowledge, there isn't a Ferrari knuckle scuffer anywhere remotely close to me that I'm aware of.

    Then there's the "fear factor". Where to park it...how to park it....can I really get anywhere remotely near driving it the way they're supposed to be driven? Without doing a ditch dive?

    Happy with my current TL....more so than the others I've had. Seems this one must have been made on a Wednesday, it's tight as a drum. Took it to Chicago and got 28 MPG going 80 a good portion of the way. This one feels "smoother", but can't put my finger on why. It handles a bit sharper, but I chalk that up to the 19" wheels/tires. It did a great job this past winter, which certainly was one of the worst (if not THE worst) in recent memory.

    Filled up at Costco last night....22 MPG piddling around town with some fun country back roads thrown into the mix.

    It might not lead the pack in any one category, but as a whole, it does just about everything well.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,431

    @graphicguy‌

    I'm a fan of the TL SH-AWD as you know. How long do you plan on holding on to this one? I know, loaded question in this forum.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 8,072

    By my count, nobody has bought anything in almost a month... You guys and gals need to get on it!

    It's not automotive related, but I adopted a ~3 year old Beagle mix from the animal shelter on Saturday. The first night was a little trying, but she's as sweet as can be and an excellent companion. All the time I spend taking her out, refilling her food/water, etc. is exhausting, but I still love her! :D

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,703

    @nyccarguy said:
    graphicguy‌

    I'm a fan of the TL SH-AWD as you know. How long do you plan on holding on to this one? I know, loaded question in this forum.

    NYC...you're right....loaded question. I don't know why I appreciate this TL more than the others I've had. I purchased it because I needed something quick. It was the safe route as it hit all of my "check boxes".

    That said, if the M235i had been already released, I may have had a different car in the garage. My biggest complaint with my E92 was the seats. The M235i seats are the same. Maybe I should ignore the seats and appreciate those cars for their other virtues. But 'ya know....seats are kind of important when you're in your car so much.

    Then again, every time I get into the TL, the sport seats fit just right, the steering wheel feels just right. It is fun both on the highway, as well as in more sporting roads. As fast as my previous S4 was, I can't really say that I feel the power of the TL is lacking in any way.

    I'm trying to think of something I'd be willing to pay more money for, and may be happier with. I dunno....maybe Mike's CLS? Then again, I really don't want to spend that kind of money. An A6? That's more like it, but I'm still feeling the "sting" a little bit on my whole S4 experience.

    I really like the pics of the new TLX. But, they're just pics. On paper, it sounds like a really fine car.....ON PAPER.

    Other priorities right now, however. We're selling my house, my fiance is selling hers. We have to find something we both like, and do it relatively quickly so we don't get into the whole capital gains debacle.

    We both have relatively new cars. So, take care of all that other stuff first. My promise is to not look at anything for a couple more years. Then again, I'm sure I'll get an invite to my dealer's grand unveiling of the new TLX when it hits.

    I still say if I was currently in the market right this minute, getting a loaded up RLX in the low to mid $40s, which is what they're selling for is a screaming luxury bargain.

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  • au1994au1994 GAPosts: 1,836
    edited April 2014

    @ GG, regarding the seats in a BMW...I suspect you would be happy with the seats in the M235i as BMW's sport seats are std equip as I understand. These are night and day different from each other. Had the std seats in my E92 and Sports in my F30 and E46 for that matter.

    @ Corvette...congrats on the pup. Nothing like the unconditional love you get from a dog! (I don't have kids btw :))

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460

    Corvette - cute puppy! We've had our basset for a little over a year now (one of three dogs we have), and man those first few months were indeed trying, but it does pass.

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460

    @stickguy said:
    Have decided that the likely way is more miles but generally open highway instead of stop/go through city neighborhoods (actually should be quicker), but 90/day adds up quick. I have thus decided that a mid-size that gets great highway MPG is the way to go. Better range over a compact (much bigger tank, almost same MPG), more comfort, all that good stuff. Something like an Altima or Accord. I suppose a Passat could work (though a Jetta would be in a gray area). Diesel would be assume range wise, but probably would not get involved in that.

    most likely would stay away from a nice Euro for this use (so no new S60 :'( ) thanks to cost and mind numbing depreciation. Not sure if I would ever move, so might have to consider this a 6 year/200K type deal. By then, one of us (the car or me) would probably be dead!

    You and I are pretty much in the same boat - at a minimum, I have a 65 mile roundtrip to and from work every day, but many days it's up to 100 or so with picking up kids, sports, etc. I'll vouch for the value of the comfortable large sedan for this purpose. The Passat 1.8t is probably averaging somewhere in the 500's on a tank (about 33 mpg on average, but up to 40 on normal highway driving).

    Honestly, if I had to do it over again, I'd go with the Accord. I like the tech features Honda offers over VW (at least at this point), it offers about the same amount of room, and it drives a bit sportier than the Passat, while sacrificing little in the way of comfort.

    And I believe the Honda will be a bit more immune to the higher mileage when it comes to resale. I will have had the Passat three months this week, and I passed 5,000 miles yesterday.

    And don't forget about the Mazda6, particularly since you like the Mazdas. A bit better gas mileage than the others, sporty dynamics and frankly, you don't see them coming and going as much as the Accord and Passat.

    Good luck with the interview! :)

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,347

    Interview went well. Want me to come over now fir an in person so must be serious! At least I can preview the commute.

    My short list I think is Altima, accord and Mazda 6. Pretty sure not happy with a sonata, and I just can't bring myself yo own a Camry but probably should try one out.

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460

    @[email protected] said:
    Breld - you planning to go to the Denver auto show? I'm pretty sure I'll be there next Saturday. Let me know.

    Daughter is still on the fence about the Countryman, though she did tell us tonight that the dealer is offering a loyalty bonus. Guess she's been poking around on the dealer website. I'm trying to get her to the dealer for a test drive.

    Oh yeah, we are definitely planning on the Denver auto show. I'm just not sure what day we're going. If I can fit it in on a weekday evening, I prefer that since it's less busy, but it might end up being Saturday, in which case we'd go first thing in the morning. I'll let you know.

    There do seem to be good deals on the Countryman - Mini's website is advertising some seemingly aggressive lease deals. $289/month with zero down on an S All4 model.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 171,065

    @breld said:
    Oh yeah, we are definitely planning on the Denver auto show. I'm just not sure what day we're going. If I can fit it in on a weekday evening, I prefer that since it's less busy, but it might end up being Saturday, in which case we'd go first thing in the morning. I'll let you know.

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    There do seem to be good deals on the Countryman - Mini's website is advertising some seemingly aggressive lease deals. $289/month with zero down on an S All4 model.

    I'm probably going early on Saturday as well .. I can get in and out before it gets really crazy. Keep me posted.

    Daughter won't do a lease, and I'm sure the advertised model is pretty sparsely equipped. She's looking for the Harmon/Kardon stereo package and Nav, plus maybe the sunroof. When she built one on the website, she was around $33-34K. The ones on the lot with nav also have leather and are running over $35K.

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


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  • js06gvjs06gv Frisco, TXPosts: 454

    @stickguy said:
    Interview went well. Want me to come over now fir an in person so must be serious! At least I can preview the commute.

    My short list I think is Altima, accord and Mazda 6. Pretty sure not happy with a sonata, and I just can't bring myself yo own a Camry but probably should try one out.

    Check out the Optima. Different enough from a Sonata looks-wise, and screaming deals to be had on a car with a lot of features compared to the competition. Love ours.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,347

    I suppose would not hurt to look at the Optima too. Assuming it is the same tank size (18.5) as the Sonata, should have good range. I would get the base 4 in any case.

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460

    @[email protected] said:
    Daughter won't do a lease, and I'm sure the advertised model is pretty sparsely equipped. She's looking for the Harmon/Kardon stereo package and Nav, plus maybe the sunroof. When she built one on the website, she was around $33-34K. The ones on the lot with nav also have leather and are running over $35K.

    If she doesn't want to lease (understandable), is she willing to go used? Seems like they are starting to show up on the used lots more and more. I like this one personally, but she may want an auto trannie:

    S All4

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,703

    @au1994 said:
    @ GG, regarding the seats in a BMW...I suspect you would be happy with the seats in the M235i as BMW's sport seats are std equip as I understand. These are night and day different from each other. Had the std seats in my E92 and Sports in my F30 and E46 for that matter.

    @ Corvette...congrats on the pup. Nothing like the unconditional love you get from a dog! (I don't have kids btw :))

    Thanks for the heads up on the M235i seats. Worth checking out.

    Corvette....same here on the puppy. Have had 2 in my lifetime. Miss both dearly.

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