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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,297
    genner2 said:

    Has the MF and RV changed for April in CA? Numbers I got for March:

    MF=.00011
    36/12k = 54% RV
    36/15k = 52% RV

    We haven't seen the April programs, yet.

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  • genner2genner2 Member Posts: 46
    kyfdx said:

    genner2 said:

    Could I please get a comment on this deal:

    - A4 Premium Plus FWD
    - Total/Adjusted cap: $36,650
    - MF: .00011
    - RV: 52% ($22,298)
    - $1k rebate
    - CA tax: 8%
    - Monthly: $437 (includes all taxes/fees)

    Good? Also, if I add Audi Care, what would the new values be?

    What is the MSRP?
    $42,880. (But wouldn't all A4's in CA with the same specs have the same MSRP?)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,297
    genner2 said:

    kyfdx said:

    genner2 said:

    Could I please get a comment on this deal:

    - A4 Premium Plus FWD
    - Total/Adjusted cap: $36,650
    - MF: .00011
    - RV: 52% ($22,298)
    - $1k rebate
    - CA tax: 8%
    - Monthly: $437 (includes all taxes/fees)

    Good? Also, if I add Audi Care, what would the new values be?

    What is the MSRP?
    $42,880. (But wouldn't all A4's in CA with the same specs have the same MSRP?)
    Well.. sure, but we can't check the calculations without having the MSRP. (you didn't want me to go look it up, did you? ;) )

    I get $405+tax, so that looks good.
    If you add AudiCare, that adds $849 to the CAP, but raises the residual to 53%.
    That makes it $417/mo.+tax. $12/mo. is a pretty good deal for maintenance.

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  • genner2genner2 Member Posts: 46
    kyfdx said:

    genner2 said:

    kyfdx said:

    genner2 said:

    Could I please get a comment on this deal:

    - A4 Premium Plus FWD
    - Total/Adjusted cap: $36,650
    - MF: .00011
    - RV: 52% ($22,298)
    - $1k rebate
    - CA tax: 8%
    - Monthly: $437 (includes all taxes/fees)

    Good? Also, if I add Audi Care, what would the new values be?

    What is the MSRP?
    $42,880. (But wouldn't all A4's in CA with the same specs have the same MSRP?)
    Well.. sure, but we can't check the calculations without having the MSRP. (you didn't want me to go look it up, did you? ;) )

    I get $405+tax, so that looks good.
    If you add AudiCare, that adds $849 to the CAP, but raises the residual to 53%.
    That makes it $417/mo.+tax. $12/mo. is a pretty good deal for maintenance.
    kyfdx, thank you for the critique! I just now wish we had the April numbers to see if they would make a better deal. :)

    Can AudiCare be higher in certain areas (or am I just being given a marked-up figure at $880)? Also, does a lower mileage limit warrant a lower selling price, or does it just affect the residual value?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    genner2 said:

    kyfdx said:

    genner2 said:

    kyfdx said:

    genner2 said:

    Could I please get a comment on this deal:

    - A4 Premium Plus FWD
    - Total/Adjusted cap: $36,650
    - MF: .00011
    - RV: 52% ($22,298)
    - $1k rebate
    - CA tax: 8%
    - Monthly: $437 (includes all taxes/fees)

    Good? Also, if I add Audi Care, what would the new values be?

    What is the MSRP?
    $42,880. (But wouldn't all A4's in CA with the same specs have the same MSRP?)
    Well.. sure, but we can't check the calculations without having the MSRP. (you didn't want me to go look it up, did you? ;) )

    I get $405+tax, so that looks good.
    If you add AudiCare, that adds $849 to the CAP, but raises the residual to 53%.
    That makes it $417/mo.+tax. $12/mo. is a pretty good deal for maintenance.
    kyfdx, thank you for the critique! I just now wish we had the April numbers to see if they would make a better deal. :)

    Can AudiCare be higher in certain areas (or am I just being given a marked-up figure at $880)? Also, does a lower mileage limit warrant a lower selling price, or does it just affect the residual value?
    I'm not sure if the cost of AudiCare can be marked up by the dealer.

    Mileage allowance affects the residual only; you should be able to negotiate the same price regardless of the lease term and miles.

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  • genner2genner2 Member Posts: 46
    Michaell said:

    genner2 said:

    kyfdx said:

    genner2 said:

    kyfdx said:

    genner2 said:

    Could I please get a comment on this deal:

    - A4 Premium Plus FWD
    - Total/Adjusted cap: $36,650
    - MF: .00011
    - RV: 52% ($22,298)
    - $1k rebate
    - CA tax: 8%
    - Monthly: $437 (includes all taxes/fees)

    Good? Also, if I add Audi Care, what would the new values be?

    What is the MSRP?
    $42,880. (But wouldn't all A4's in CA with the same specs have the same MSRP?)
    Well.. sure, but we can't check the calculations without having the MSRP. (you didn't want me to go look it up, did you? ;) )

    I get $405+tax, so that looks good.
    If you add AudiCare, that adds $849 to the CAP, but raises the residual to 53%.
    That makes it $417/mo.+tax. $12/mo. is a pretty good deal for maintenance.
    kyfdx, thank you for the critique! I just now wish we had the April numbers to see if they would make a better deal. :)

    Can AudiCare be higher in certain areas (or am I just being given a marked-up figure at $880)? Also, does a lower mileage limit warrant a lower selling price, or does it just affect the residual value?
    I'm not sure if the cost of AudiCare can be marked up by the dealer.

    Mileage allowance affects the residual only; you should be able to negotiate the same price regardless of the lease term and miles.
    Michaell, thank you!
  • hondaowner14hondaowner14 Member Posts: 12
    First time considering a lease... need MF RV PMT etc for 2017 A4 Prem Plus FWD with tech pkg, MSRP 45,560, 3 yr / 10k, thinking of adding Audi care not included in MSRP, down 3k, tax rate 8.75%

    Let me know if I missed something in th calc
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727

    First time considering a lease... need MF RV PMT etc for 2017 A4 Prem Plus FWD with tech pkg, MSRP 45,560, 3 yr / 10k, thinking of adding Audi care not included in MSRP, down 3k, tax rate 8.75%

    Let me know if I missed something in th calc

    No Audi numbers for April.

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  • hondaowner14hondaowner14 Member Posts: 12
    Michaell said:

    First time considering a lease... need MF RV PMT etc for 2017 A4 Prem Plus FWD with tech pkg, MSRP 45,560, 3 yr / 10k, thinking of adding Audi care not included in MSRP, down 3k, tax rate 8.75%

    Let me know if I missed something in th calc

    No Audi numbers for April.
    Ok thanks. Forgot to mention negotiated cost: 39,750
  • sdresidentsdresident Member Posts: 1
    Hi Michaell

    My lease is ending in June on my 2014 A4 and i'm looking to get a 2017 A4 ultra (pretty much bare minimum specs).

    My first day of negotiations started with:
    2017 A4 4dr 2.0T Ultra Premium
    MSRP: $38,805
    Selling Price: $35,773
    Fees: $448
    California Sales Tax: $2,778
    Trade allowance: $17,000
    Trade Payoff: $19,535
    Net sales price: $41,534

    The dealership gave me two options for $3,000 down, 36 months/10k:
    1) I can return the car as is without a end of lease inspection for: $516/month
    or
    2) have the end of car lease inspection and pay off whatever issues they find, and have a monthly for $400/month.

    Has anyone ever come across these options? I may need new tires, but the there are no dents or damage to the body. Very minor scratch if any.

    Most likely i'll go with the end of lease inspection, but is there any way to negotiate and go for the $400/month and return the car as is without inspection?


    Any thoughts?

    Many thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727

    Hi Michaell

    My lease is ending in June on my 2014 A4 and i'm looking to get a 2017 A4 ultra (pretty much bare minimum specs).

    My first day of negotiations started with:
    2017 A4 4dr 2.0T Ultra Premium
    MSRP: $38,805
    Selling Price: $35,773
    Fees: $448
    California Sales Tax: $2,778
    Trade allowance: $17,000
    Trade Payoff: $19,535
    Net sales price: $41,534

    The dealership gave me two options for $3,000 down, 36 months/10k:
    1) I can return the car as is without a end of lease inspection for: $516/month
    or
    2) have the end of car lease inspection and pay off whatever issues they find, and have a monthly for $400/month.

    Has anyone ever come across these options? I may need new tires, but the there are no dents or damage to the body. Very minor scratch if any.

    Most likely i'll go with the end of lease inspection, but is there any way to negotiate and go for the $400/month and return the car as is without inspection?


    Any thoughts?

    Many thanks

    Ultra Premium 36/10 - .00038 and 54%

    $1000 bonus cash.

    Are you trading the car in or returning the lease early? Those are two different things.

    If you are trading it in, you show $2500 of negative equity - that will add about $70/mo to the payment.

    If you are ending the lease early, you'll still be on the hook for the remaining payments, plus any end-of-lease charges (damage, tires, etc.).

    I'm pretty sure new tires won't run you $2500 - you're probably best off by waiting until you've made your last payment, then negotiating for the new car.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,297
    drewcifer said:

    Hi -

    Could you please provide the April MF, RV and any known incentives on the 2017 A4 AWD Premium Plus for 36/12k and 36/15k?

    Thanks!
    Drew

    .00045 MF and 55%/53% residual

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,297

    First time considering a lease... need MF RV PMT etc for 2017 A4 Prem Plus FWD with tech pkg, MSRP 45,560, 3 yr / 10k, thinking of adding Audi care not included in MSRP, down 3k, tax rate 8.75%

    Let me know if I missed something in th calc

    .00026 MF and 55% residual
    Add 1% for AudiCare

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  • midd455midd455 Member Posts: 1
    Info on a 2017 A4 Prestige AWD MSRP $53,005. 3 yr/10k or 3 yr/7.5k. tax rate 8%. And, if you can comment. Is it easier to get more than 6% off msrp with Prestige or Premium Plus, both Quattro? Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,297
    midd455 said:

    Info on a 2017 A4 Prestige AWD MSRP $53,005. 3 yr/10k or 3 yr/7.5k. tax rate 8%. And, if you can comment. Is it easier to get more than 6% off msrp with Prestige or Premium Plus, both Quattro? Thank you!

    .00045 MF and 51%/52% residual

    Pricing should be similar, in regards to % off MSRP, but the Premium Plus residual is 5% higher than Prestige. It will be much less per month, even if it had a comparable MSRP.

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  • jim07110jim07110 Member Posts: 3
    Hello first time Audi lease candidate here.  Can someone be kind enough to give me thoughts on this deal?  I am in NY.

    36 mo/10k
    Msrp   $45,575.00
    Selling price $42,642.76
    Customer rebate $1,500
    Due at signing $2,899 broken out to $795 acquisition fee, $1,567.50 tax, $97.50 fees and insurance and $439 first month payment.
    Residual $26,433.50
    $439 monthly payment.

    Also, can you please comment on whether I should ask to include Audicare in the deal?  I am not sure how Audicare works as I am coming out of a BMW which includes annual service.

    Thanks in advance!

  • jim07110jim07110 Member Posts: 3
    Oh to add one last bit of info the car is a premium plus season of Audi selection
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    jim07110 said:

    Hello first time Audi lease candidate here.  Can someone be kind enough to give me thoughts on this deal?  I am in NY.

    36 mo/10k
    Msrp   $45,575.00
    Selling price $42,642.76
    Customer rebate $1,500
    Due at signing $2,899 broken out to $795 acquisition fee, $1,567.50 tax, $97.50 fees and insurance and $439 first month payment.
    Residual $26,433.50
    $439 monthly payment.

    Also, can you please comment on whether I should ask to include Audicare in the deal?  I am not sure how Audicare works as I am coming out of a BMW which includes annual service.

    Thanks in advance!

    jim07110 said:

    Oh to add one last bit of info the car is a premium plus season of Audi selection

    .00045 and 58%.

    If I subtract the rebate from the selling price and use that as the cap cost, I get the same payment you do.

    AudiCare costs $849 but adds 1% to the residual, so the net cost to you is less than $400 - can you get the services done for your lease at the dealer for less than that? Probably not. :sunglasses:

    We would recommend that you add the acquisition fee and taxes into the payment - your payment will increase to $506/mo, but your out of pocket drops to about $600.

    If the car is stolen or totaled, you think the state of NY will refund you the pre-paid, but unused, sales tax? Again, probably not.

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  • edgeofknifeedgeofknife Member Posts: 4
    edited April 2017
    Hello

    Below is the negotiated deal in Seattle for 2017 A4 Premium Plus + Tech Package + Cold Weather. Agreement is 7% off MSRP for 36 months/10k miles

    MSRP: 48,825
    License Fee: 695
    Doc Fees: 150
    Audi Care: 869
    Acq Fee: 795
    Gross Capitalized Cost: 47,920
    Residual Value: 27,830
    Net Cap Cost: 45,612
    Downpayment: 3000
    With MF of .00093, monthly payment of 617.90

    Negotiating the MF so that it is same as base MF.
    Is this good if dealer agrees for base MF?

    Thanks a lot for all the insights!

  • jim07110jim07110 Member Posts: 3
    Michaell thanks for your reply and advice.  Can you also let me know if you think this is a good deal or should I try to do better?  Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,297

    Hello

    Below is the negotiated deal in Seattle for 2017 A4 Premium Plus + Tech Package + Cold Weather. Agreement is 7% off MSRP for 36 months/10k miles

    MSRP: 48,825
    License Fee: 695
    Doc Fees: 150
    Audi Care: 869
    Acq Fee: 795
    Gross Capitalized Cost: 47,920
    Residual Value: 27,830
    Net Cap Cost: 45,612
    Downpayment: 3000
    With MF of .00093, monthly payment of 617.90

    Negotiating the MF so that it is same as base MF.
    Is this good if dealer agrees for base MF?

    Thanks a lot for all the insights!

    Yeah.. the marked up money factor (from .00043) is adding $50/mo. to your payment.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    jim07110 said:

    Michaell thanks for your reply and advice.  Can you also let me know if you think this is a good deal or should I try to do better?  Thanks!

    If you are comfortable with the negotiated price, I don't see anywhere else to lower the payment.

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  • tomek007tomek007 Member Posts: 13
    Hi Michaell, what are current numbers in NorthEast on 2017 Audi A4
    Premium quattro Automatic. Based on the Audi's payment estimator, 42 months comes out bit lower per month, is that the optimal lease term for A4? Im looknig for 15k annually. Tanks Tom
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    tomek007 said:

    Hi Michaell, what are current numbers in NorthEast on 2017 Audi A4
    Premium quattro Automatic. Based on the Audi's payment estimator, 42 months comes out bit lower per month, is that the optimal lease term for A4? Im looknig for 15k annually. Tanks Tom

    36/12 - .00045 and 53%
    42/12 - .00065 and 49%

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    gururob said:

    Hello, please provide RV, MF and incentives for A4 Quattro Premium /Premium + and Quattro Prestige/ Prestige 2wd , 36 month / 12K miles per year in NY. Thank you!

    FWD - .00026 and 54% (P/P+) or 50% (Prestige)

    Quattro - .00045 and 55% (P/P+) or 50% (Prestige)

    $750 bonus cash

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727

    hey, looking for the numbers for a 2017 ultra and SoA (quattro and fwd) 12k miles/year thanks!

    What lease term? What state?

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  • krayyyykrayyyy Member Posts: 2
    MF, RV for A4 Premium Plus, FWD and Quattro? (SoCal, 36/10)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    krayyyy said:

    MF, RV for A4 Premium Plus, FWD and Quattro? (SoCal, 36/10)

    FWD - .00026 and 55%
    Quattro - .00045 and 56%

    $1000 bonus cash

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  • schwartzkischwartzki Member Posts: 17
    edited April 2017
    Hello looking for lease numbers for a MF/RV for A4 Premium Plus,Quattro NE Indiana 36/10

    Audicare add anything to RV in Indiana?

    Any bonus cash?

    Thanks
  • boiler1979boiler1979 Member Posts: 6
    Hi, I'm looking for the numbers for both Premium Plus and Prestige, 36/10 and 36/12, in Colorado. Thanks!
  • chi_mikechi_mike Member Posts: 7
    Hello,

    Can you please provide the money factor and residual value for the Premium and Premium Plus model in Naperville, IL (60490) at 12,000 miles/year for 36 months?

    Also, can you please explain how taxes on a lease works in IL? Are there any taxes paid upfront, or are all taxes calculated based off of the monthly payment?

    Thank you!
  • jermanojermano Member Posts: 10
    What's the program for season of Audi quattro 12/36 in NYC? Thanks
  • archmealfillerarchmealfiller Member Posts: 3
    Hi, Can you please provide the numbers and any deals for both Premium Plus and Prestige, 36/7.5, in Columbus, Ohio. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,297

    Hi, Can you please provide the numbers and any deals for both Premium Plus and Prestige, 36/7.5, in Columbus, Ohio. Thanks!

    FWD or Quattro?

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  • archmealfillerarchmealfiller Member Posts: 3
    kyfdx said:

    Hi, Can you please provide the numbers and any deals for both Premium Plus and Prestige, 36/7.5, in Columbus, Ohio. Thanks!

    FWD or Quattro?
    Quattro
  • theandyleetheandylee Member Posts: 35
    Kind sir,

    Could you please provide MF and Res for

    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Season of Audi
    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Premium

    36 mo. / 12,000 miles
  • jdlearoydjdlearoyd Member Posts: 4
    Hi,

    I received the following from a dealer today for the Audi premium plus with sport package, 10k miles 36 months. This will be the first time I've leased a car so wanted to get a second set of eyes on this - is this a decent deal given what you have been seeing recently?





  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727

    Hello looking for lease numbers for a MF/RV for A4 Premium Plus,Quattro NE Indiana 36/10

    Audicare add anything to RV in Indiana?

    Any bonus cash?

    Thanks

    .00045 and 56%

    $1000 bonus cash

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727

    Hi, I'm looking for the numbers for both Premium Plus and Prestige, 36/10 and 36/12, in Colorado. Thanks!

    36/12 numbers; add 1% for 10K

    Assuming Quattro, .00045 and 55% (P+) or 50% (Prestige)

    $1000 bonus cash.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    chi_mike said:

    Hello,

    Can you please provide the money factor and residual value for the Premium and Premium Plus model in Naperville, IL (60490) at 12,000 miles/year for 36 months?

    Also, can you please explain how taxes on a lease works in IL? Are there any taxes paid upfront, or are all taxes calculated based off of the monthly payment?

    Thank you!

    Assuming Quattro, .00045 and 55% for both trims.

    $100 bonus cash

    I think Illinois taxes the sum of the payments and collects the money up front; you can choose to pay the taxes when you sign the paperwork, or (our recommendation) roll them into the selling price.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    jermano said:

    What's the program for season of Audi quattro 12/36 in NYC? Thanks

    .00045 and 57%

    $750 lease cash

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    kyfdx said:

    Hi, Can you please provide the numbers and any deals for both Premium Plus and Prestige, 36/7.5, in Columbus, Ohio. Thanks!

    FWD or Quattro?
    Quattro
    .00045 and 57% (P+) or 52% (Prestige)

    $1000 lease cash

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727

    Kind sir,

    Could you please provide MF and Res for

    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Season of Audi
    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Premium

    36 mo. / 12,000 miles

    Premium - .00038 and 53%
    SoA - .00038 and 54%

    What state? Incentives are regional.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    jdlearoyd said:

    Hi,

    I received the following from a dealer today for the Audi premium plus with sport package, 10k miles 36 months. This will be the first time I've leased a car so wanted to get a second set of eyes on this - is this a decent deal given what you have been seeing recently?


    I agree with the calculations, but there is something about that worksheet that bothers me.

    In the left column, there is the MSRP ($45,440), then the MSRP After Discount ($39,400). In the right column, there is the Vehicle Cost ($43,399), then a discount amount, then the Total Selling price ($40,896).

    Not sure what the $39,400 represents.

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  • jdlearoydjdlearoyd Member Posts: 4
    Thanks Michael - your sharp eye is always appreciated. The dealer has told me that the $39,440 is a memo-only entry referring to a base price, and has no relevance to the calculations or cost...

    That being said, is this a decent deal given what you've been seeing?

    Thanks in advance!
  • theandyleetheandylee Member Posts: 35
    Michaell said:

    Kind sir,

    Could you please provide MF and Res for

    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Season of Audi
    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Premium

    36 mo. / 12,000 miles

    Premium - .00038 and 53%
    SoA - .00038 and 54%

    What state? Incentives are regional.
    Sir,

    State is California. Any incentives going on? And how long would the above lease numbers and incentives be valid for at a time??
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,297

    Michaell said:

    Kind sir,

    Could you please provide MF and Res for

    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Season of Audi
    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Premium

    36 mo. / 12,000 miles

    Premium - .00038 and 53%
    SoA - .00038 and 54%

    What state? Incentives are regional.
    Sir,

    State is California. Any incentives going on? And how long would the above lease numbers and incentives be valid for at a time??
    $1000 bonus cash. Program runs through May 1st.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,727
    Michaell said:

    jdlearoyd said:

    Hi,

    I received the following from a dealer today for the Audi premium plus with sport package, 10k miles 36 months. This will be the first time I've leased a car so wanted to get a second set of eyes on this - is this a decent deal given what you have been seeing recently?


    I agree with the calculations, but there is something about that worksheet that bothers me.

    In the left column, there is the MSRP ($45,440), then the MSRP After Discount ($39,400). In the right column, there is the Vehicle Cost ($43,399), then a discount amount, then the Total Selling price ($40,896).

    Not sure what the $39,400 represents.
    jdlearoyd said:

    Thanks Michael - your sharp eye is always appreciated. The dealer has told me that the $39,440 is a memo-only entry referring to a base price, and has no relevance to the calculations or cost...

    That being said, is this a decent deal given what you've been seeing?

    Thanks in advance!

    It's the base MF and a decent discount from sticker. Nothing overtly wrong with what I see.

    Audi's tend to be more expensive to lease than BMW or MB.

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  • theandyleetheandylee Member Posts: 35
    kyfdx said:

    Michaell said:

    Kind sir,

    Could you please provide MF and Res for

    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Season of Audi
    2017 Audi A4 ULTRA FWD Premium

    36 mo. / 12,000 miles

    Premium - .00038 and 53%
    SoA - .00038 and 54%

    What state? Incentives are regional.
    Sir,

    State is California. Any incentives going on? And how long would the above lease numbers and incentives be valid for at a time??
    $1000 bonus cash. Program runs through May 1st.
    Thank you
  • lif1010lif1010 Member Posts: 9
    Hi what's is the MF and Residual for 36/15k of a 2017 Ultra Premium Season of Audi?

    Algo what are there incentives in Miami FL?

    Thanks!
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