2007 Toyota Camry

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  • chevymalibuchevymalibu Member Posts: 129
    wife hates her 2004 accord (rides rough/hard) and I have a 2005 camry (had two 1994 camry's also in the past). We looked at the new 2007 camry and the dealer in SC has a "dealer adjustment" of 1000 on top of the MSRP. youch. I told the salesman that I wouldn't buy a camry 1000 above MSRP (or MSRP either). On my 2005 (granted it was july of '05) that I paid 16.9K for the 21K listed car. He said I'd have to wait 2 months for the 1000 to be taken off but the price will still be tough to neg. Is this car worth paying close to MSRP?????
  • waynethepainwaynethepain Member Posts: 31
    Dual Exhaust System -- ECM computer is different -- There is quite a lot more difference "internally" -- If you think about it.....
  • waynethepainwaynethepain Member Posts: 31
    I'm with you on that one too. You only live once -- why not splurge and enjoy life a little. I get bored with barebone cars. I guess we all have different value systems when we buy. I also too thankfully have chosen to enjoy life!
  • njeraldnjerald Member Posts: 689
    Besides the V6 Engine, you get a 6 speed tranny, a bigger exhaust pipe (and converters), an extra muffler and chrome exhaust tips.

    The alternator and starter may also be upgraded.

    The $2,500+ is MSRP, not invoice $$$ also.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    I did say "barebones" with quotation marks, because the XLE is hardly a stripper. Even without the added gizmos (nav, Bluetooth, heated seats, leather), I feel I'm riding in the lap of luxury in my '05.
  • waynethepainwaynethepain Member Posts: 31
    Responding to your SC pricing -- The Camry is in high demand in my area of Southern California but the price can still be negotiated to around 2000 less than MSRP. The only drawback out here that I am seeing is that you have to wait a week or two for a specific model with options to come in. No change with pricing however. I would keep shopping around for sure....
  • mattgg1mattgg1 Member Posts: 191
    I'm shocked at the prices I've seen quoted in this forum for the 2007 Camry. I live in the Cincinnati area and have a much different experience.

    I was fortunate enough to speak directy with the Internet Manager, who is responsible for several dealerships. He told me I could buy any 2007 Camry on the lot for Invoice + $215 doc fee.

    The catch is, supplies are still low, and he only had four on the lot to choose from. Therefore, it is likely I will have to wait several weeks (or longer?) for an SE with no options to show up on his lot.

    However, he also said that if I waited 3-4 months, I could buy one for several hundred UNDER Invoice. This guy was a straight shooter...he threw me the keys to both the LE and SE and told me to take them both for a spin myself, and didn't care how long I was gone...so I believe his invoice pricing.
  • njeraldnjerald Member Posts: 689
    Salesman BS talk is cheap. Get the price in writing.

    So factory order what you want!!

    Your chance of an SE with the right color/trim and no options showing up to that dealer is extremely low.

    If you wait another year, you could get even a better deal on an '07.
  • bmmeupbmmeup Member Posts: 29
    Check out Indianapolis. Several dealers will sell at or close to invoice. Supplies are limited here too however.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    Depends on your definition of "the same." A lot of people will look at the basic specs, 3.5 liter, DOHC, VVTi, and say it's the same engine and in those respects it is.

    The Lexus specifies premium which allows the computer to advance the ignition timing a little and voila, 4 more hp and 6 more lb-ft of torque. Not enough to be noticeable driving but gives the Lexus sales person something to brag about.
  • tidewatertidewater Member Posts: 69
    Yes, I'm a commercial appraiser here in SE Virginia.

    Its nice to know I can order the Camry XLE with Nav, but not pay for leather seats & bun warmers. To bad about the 45 day wait.

    The Smart Key on my rental car yesterday was fun. But, I just don't think I'm ready for that level of technology yet. I believe Smart Key is only available on the V6 (which also has leather) and I'd prefer not to pay the higher price for the V6. (If you don't step on the brake, it won't start). However, if you got in your car a number of different times throughout the day (and locked it between uses), Smart Key would be a real plus.

    Good luck on getting a new Camry.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    The SKS on my Prius is one very cool feature. Just like the engine immobilizer keys.... be careful.

    I assume you're interested in a 4c XLE, 2540 model. There are only 4 options available on the 2540 model: ( LA, HD, NV, VS ) They have been grouped for ease of ordering but they can also be ordered a la carte in our region.

    If you are on the road a lot which seems likely I'd suggest NV and VS.

    In order to get just what you want a la carte it will reauire a special order at present since they are coming in packaged now. Stop by - Military Hwy.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    No, "any" engine will not get more power with premium, but some engines are designed to take advantage of extra octane and at the same time also "run fine" with no knocking or pinging on regular.
  • waynethepainwaynethepain Member Posts: 31
    I just wanted to add that I have tried comparing regular and premium in the past on a 2000 camry and an 2002 Tundra. At least on long trips, I did notice an additional boost in MPG running premium gasoline, but at today's prices, it still probably wouldn't amount to any savings - and when it was just over a buck a gallon -- the 20 cent difference did make up the difference in MPG -- but just enough to cancel the cost difference.

    As a former mechanic, I do know however that the importance above all is sticking to a fuel brand and octane level that runs good with your car for the long run. When you get different brands of gas with various octane levels and oxygenates, your ECU computer has to recalibrate with every change. The easiest on your engine is to stick with a decent octane and brand of your choice and never deviate from it.

    After my previous experiments, I will stick with a decent 87 octane on my new '07 Camry. I seems to run just fine...
  • bosco5bosco5 Member Posts: 5
    Denso makes the navigation system but you can't buy a navigation unit as a kit. It could probably be added but it would be difficult, partly because the navigation system ties into the audio system.
  • bosco5bosco5 Member Posts: 5
    The JBL audio system is XM or Sirius Satellite radio compatible but you need to purchase the antenna and reciever. The antenna for the '07MY Camry is mounted inside the car now instead of on the trunk lid or top of the car.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    Exactly where inside the car does the dealer or port install the antennas now?
  • bosco5bosco5 Member Posts: 5
    This applies to the Toyota system and it depends on whether it's XM or Sirius. The XM antenna is mounted on the top of the rear package tray (behind the rear seat) on the right side of the stop light. I recall the Sirius antenna is located behind the rear view mirror.
  • bobsalembobsalem Member Posts: 12
    Hello. Has anyone noticed the aceleration delay on the 07's that was noted on the previous generation? Especially the V6 Engines? Thank you Bob
  • bosco5bosco5 Member Posts: 5
    The antenna definitely doesn't look like this. If it's the Toyota kit, the antenna will be mounted inside the car on the rear package tray area for XM. Also the antenna is smaller than the one you showed in the picture. As for the antenna kit, MSRP from Toyota is about $200 without labor and about $500 installed. Of course, prices will vary.
  • bosco5bosco5 Member Posts: 5
    Haven't noticed but one thing to consider is that the new V6 with 6AT has an ECU with memory that learns your driving behavior. It may be that the system is adjusting to your driving. But not really sure.
  • bobsalembobsalem Member Posts: 12
    Could be the adaptive tranny. Mine is a 99 V6 in the days before electronic throttle control. A delay could be annoying. I would hope with the speed of processors these days there wouldn't be much of one, if any. I have alway liked the responsiveness of my 3.0 192hp V6 I really hope the new V6 is even better. The overall engine under varied conditions is just great especially the way toyota gears there transmissions.

    For those that have offered to e mail me info: I have read everything possible, all of these posts, reviews etc. So i know most of the specifics. thank you for offering though. Hopefully we will get more user comments. Have a great day. Bob
  • bobsalembobsalem Member Posts: 12
    Could be the adaptive tranny. Mine is a 99 V6 in the days before electronic throttle control. A delay could be annoying. I would hope with the speed of processors these days there wouldn't be much of one, if any. I have alway liked the responsiveness of my 3.0 192hp V6 I really hope the new V6 is even better. The overall engine under varied conditions is just great especially the way toyota gears there transmissions.

    For those that have offered to e mail me info: I have read everything possible, all of these posts, reviews etc. So i know most of the specifics. thank you for offering though. Hopefully we will get more user comments. Have a great day. Bob
  • fsowirlesfsowirles Member Posts: 195
    While speaking with the VP of a large dealer here in VA (they own many lots with different makes) I was informed on the main differential between those who will deal and those who won't, Some dealers have agreements with Toyota that they will not sell for over or under sticker for a certain period of time. The Toyota side of the agreement is to provide preference in allotment and quantity of stock.

    The game can be played, however, if the dealer truly wants to deal and earn your business. They can make up the difference on your trade. They are able to enter the deal as a MSRP sale.
  • mattgg1mattgg1 Member Posts: 191
    njerald -

    Wow, you sound like a really pessimistic and bitter guy!

    I agree, the average salesman talks a lot of BS. But I'll bet you if I walked into the dealership today with my checkbook he'd sell me a car at invoice, even though I don't have the "price in writing."

    I'm not ordering anything from the factory because I haven't decided yet between the Camry and Accord.

    What makes you think the chance of a silver SE showing up on the lot is "extremely low"? I'm not looking for some obscure combination of color and options.

    I don't understand your last comment. Of course I would save more if I waited another year. The discussion is what the cars are going for now and in the near future (while demand is high and supply is low), not 1, 2, or 5 years from now.
  • iwantatliwantatl Member Posts: 25
    St. Louis, Mo - dealers are advertising xle v6 msrp $29389, only thing missing nav and smart key, for $27588. Plus of course the $199 doc fee. Am going to offer $27k and doc fee. Will let you know what happens.....
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    $300 in labor charges alone? Sounds like it requires a very big installation project that has potential for creating new interior rattles and other interior damage.
    MSRP for XM as a PIO option is $449 with an invoice cost of $349. I suppose the dealer could install it for a price in the same range as the PIO list price. Installed at around invoice cost wouldn't be too bad.
  • wtliao321wtliao321 Member Posts: 35
    That's a good news. So you are saying the XM Radio antenna hides inside the car instead of mounting on the trunk or roof? That's very nice!! I will definitely go for it now. Thanks!
  • wtliao321wtliao321 Member Posts: 35
    IS it worth to buy the Extented Warranty (Toyota Premium) from my dealer for 2007 Camry XLE V6 with NAV? They tried to sell me it but I am not sure if should pull the trigger. Any good advise about the price too? Thanks! :)
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    It might be worth it at a certain price, but is normally marked up too high. What do they want to charge for what coverage?

    Most likely it will not fully pay for itself at any price they would sell it for since the most major repairs are likely to be required after 100K miles and even the extended warranty would have expired by then.
    If you like a nice new car every 3 years or so, then you don't need the warranty then either.
  • wtliao321wtliao321 Member Posts: 35
    I have driven my 07 Camry V6 for 2 weeks (700 miles) and it's still in the break-in period. In the begining I felt some hesitation. However, the more I drive, the faster response the car gives to me. Like this morning on my way to the office, on a uphill road it downshifted and accelerated immediately when I pushed the gas pedal. I will let you know more about the acceleration after it passes the break-in period.

    Another question is, in the manual it says the first 1K miles is break-in period. Should I wait until my first service?(3K miles)
  • rs_pettyrs_petty Member Posts: 423
    Thanks.
  • bobsalembobsalem Member Posts: 12
    Perfect! Thank you! Bob
  • tidewatertidewater Member Posts: 69
    Thanks for the info on the XLE I4. NV & VS is what I'm looking for. I'll keep that in mind when I'm ready.

    Tidewater
  • fsowirlesfsowirles Member Posts: 195
    It is my understanding that the PIO/PPO XM is a module that is installed and integrated into the facotry sound system with any extra devices visible. The dealer installed option is a seperate panel/unit that is probably not all that different from what you get at Best Buy. I could be wrong, but that is how it was explained to me, so I went with a PIO/PPO XM on mine.
  • shellrehmshellrehm Member Posts: 15
    Has anyone had the DVD entertainment system installed? I went to pick mine up yesterday after the installation and the headrest are the color of the 06 interior while my car is the new color in the 07? Just curious if anyone has had the color matched.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Break-in is 1000 miles as you've stated. After that you can start increasing speeds gradually, as well as travel more at constant speeds.

    Wait till at least 3000 miles for first service.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Don't bother -- not worth the money.

    Besides, it's a Toyota -- what's really going to break?

    (This from a satisfied owner of 3 former or current Camrys)
  • mary99mary99 Member Posts: 65
    When I used Sirius I had the antenna in the car, where the dash and windshield meet. It cut out when going under overpasses, and it does take a second or two to 'reconnect' when that happens. I put my XM antenna on the roof and it never cuts out. It could be the different antennas or services, though, and the not the antenna location.
  • njeraldnjerald Member Posts: 689
    It's an insurance policy, roll the dice.

    You should be able to get the 84/100,000/0 deductible Platinum Plan for under $900. I just did.

    Toyota list for it is $1,450. At that price, I wouldn't have considered it

    I'm not worried about the engine/tranny.

    It's the electronics/computers/NAV/dash instruments/power windows, locks/Radio/steering wheel switches/auto heating and cooling etc. that will be costly in terms of labor and parts.

    I plan on keeping the car for 7 years and I like to keep everything working.
  • fsowirlesfsowirles Member Posts: 195
    It is the service. I was the Program Manager for the deployment of XM's terrestrial repeater network. They ahve better overall coverage. Sirius went with 3 average powered satellites and minimized the amount of repeaters on the ground. XM went with 2 HS-702 satellites (most powerful built at that time....2000/2001) and just under 1000 ground repeaters. The design was to not have more than 750' of uncovered road in a market of required coverage. In case you are wondering, the repeaters are mainly to mitigate the satellite blockage of urban canyons (Buildings) and foliage.

    Sorry about going off topic.
  • wtliao321wtliao321 Member Posts: 35
    Here is a good article about extended warranty. After I read it, I will wait until the factory warranty nearly up, or trust Toyota's quality for the next 5-7 years. ;)

    http://www.smartmoney.com/consumer/index.cfm?story=20030319
  • greencalgreencal Member Posts: 18
    I am So. Califonia, got price of LE V4+CF $19786+Tax Is it good?

    Also I was told that Tax and Lic is about 9.2% !

    Any one know what is brack down on Sales Tax, Docuement , DVM fee in So. Calfonia?
  • tidewatertidewater Member Posts: 69
    Excellent article wtliao321. Everyone considering extended warrantee should read this.
  • tuffytuffy Member Posts: 63
    Be sure you drive the Accord first and then the Camry to save yourself an extra trip as you will never return to the Honda dealer. If you like refinement, a smooth ride, ultra quiet interior, and dependability, the Camry exceeds the Accord by leaps and bounds. Based on my experience, it even a exceeds the Acura TL for quietness and a smooth ride!
  • tuffytuffy Member Posts: 63
    Can you really order a XLE 4 cylinder with VSC and NAV with or without Leather and actually get it. My experience with Toyota dealers, even the good ones, that special orders like the one I mention above are a loosing proposition as they say you really can't special order, only attempt to see a vehicle being scheduled to be built like you want and then try to get it to your dealer. IE, a long shot at best and then you probably loose the ability to make a good deal even if you could get it.
  • njeraldnjerald Member Posts: 689
    Ask the local dealers unless you are going to buy from a forum member!!!!!

    It is not a long shot at best.

    Do you need someone to hold your hand?
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    Yes we can. It is a special order but the 4 options are ala carte. It just may take some time.

    You will always get a better deal discussing a vheicle in stock or soon-to-be.
  • shellrehmshellrehm Member Posts: 15
    What is CF?
  • virtkingvirtking Member Posts: 25
    Thanks for the clarification, kdh. Even more it's puzzling why Sienna was not fitted in 2004 with the same kind of control - you have to deal with a fuse to enable/disable the DRL. If I remember correctly, all Sienna's trim levels can have it even if it not enabled from the factory.
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