There are no rebates on the 2007 models. Are you sure that is for a 2007 LE? Sounds like that may be a 2006.
As far as the 2006 LE V-6 for $15k out the door. I don't think that's possible. They would have to sell you it for about $13,800 before CA taxes (varies from county to county), license, $8.75 CA tire fee, and $45 doc fee.
In my neck of the woods, you can get an LE-4 (2006) for $16,500 (after the rebate), plus TTL. or probably about $18,250 OTD.
typing too quickly.. I meant LA, HD, NV, VS. As I originally wrote getting anything other than the normal CAT options may be a lonnnggg wait .. but it is possible to order these ala carte.
Im very sorry, i meant to say that i can get $2000 below the invoice on any toyotas including the 2007 camrys anyone because i am a best friend of longo toyotas good manager
Lots of discussion of the SET Admin Fee in prior posts here. It's the same as the other regions TDA. As you may know SET is independent of Toyota. This is how they pay their bills. Often some of it is rebated back to the customers.
I can explain in further detail if you wish but there is mucho discussion here an in other forums.
Buy 10 as a matter of fact buy 100 and put them on the EBay.
That's a silly post regardless if the OP is a friend of Mr LONGO or not. The OP wants the world to believe that he can get a Toyota Camry at $6000 under invoice.... puleeeeze.
If it turns out that you cannot realistically get nav with cloth on the XLE 4 cylinder or SE and you really do not want leather, then a portable system like the Nuvi makes more sense. At "only" $1200 additional for the XLE models, it is only a few hundred more than a Nuvi, but if you add the cost of manadatory leather and then needing the seat heaters for winter because leather gets so cold, the $1200 navi will now really cost you $2690 for an XLE and $3890 for an SE (which doesn't come with the required 440W stereo as standard). At those prices, aftermarket looks much better even if the portability (to take to car to car, walk around with or use on your European vacation) of something like the Nuvi wasn't a priority.
Since I'm not in the southeast, I'm not going to worry about it. I was just curious since it seemed like such an obnoxious charge. I'm more interested on how/why the practice of the port "middleman" installations of things better suited to a factory install happened. I don't see this with many other manufacturers. How many people complained about the cost and ugly installation of XM radio in the Lexus or Avalon? I know the 2007 Camry now has the antenna tacked on to the rear view mirror or rear deck (which is less unsightly than the trunk mounts), but that is still less than ideal and, on top of this, the post-manufacture installs add a great deal of cost.
spyder, you can "preference" all day long but unless it's being ordered by CAT you won't get it. Trust me. Dealer daily will let you do it but it will also give you a message stating "This configuration is not normally ordered for your region". Mackabee
Hi, lexus460l I am dealing with Longo's internet salesperson. I wish you could help me to get a good price. Please advise me how to do it. my e-mail: harri0438 at gmail dot com Thank you very much!
Good analysis jaxs1. I have exactly the same preferences for the XLE, and am making that same decision. $2,690 is alot for Navigation, especially considering I need portable Nav for my other vehicle anyway. The Nuvi looks like a nice device, but lets be honest, there is a very clear advantage of Navigation as an integral part of your vehicle (factory installed) in terms of power wires, mounting hassles, screen size, voice integration with radio, etc..
For a little more than aftermarket ($1200 addidtional for an XLE with heated leather seats vs $750-$900 for a Nuvi), the integrated system is nice, but not when it is 3 or 4X the added cost to purchase a 2007 Camry with nav.
There are no "mounting hassle" with a Nuvi. Does't really need to be mounted at all and can run on batteries for a few hours. You can just lay it in the console and listen to the voice commands. You can mount it if you wish for easier visibility. It's easy enough to plug into the power adapter for extended use (no different than charging a cell phone) and put in your shirt pocket or purse to carry away or else store in one of the Camry's cubbies. Owners say voice control is more hassle than it is worth after the novelty wears thin due to the fact it does not work 100% accurately. If I were going to get an XLE with leather anyway, then the cost is close enough that I would just go for the factory nav for a little more convenience unless I needed portability. If you really have no interest in leather or even prefer to NOT have leather, then the extra cost of the bundled options you would be forced to take to get factory nav makes less sense. If the main reason you are upgrading to an XLE vs an LE is because you can't get factory nav on an LE, the same thing applies.
Additionally, the Nuvi (or similar portable) would have advantages over factory Nav beyond just portability (which is an outstanding benefit). If your car is totaled, you can't take your Nav out of it, higher insurance on more expensive car with Nav, if factory Nav stops working you can't replace it as easily as you could a Nuvi. The technology is going to advance over the next 4 to 6 years (my timeframe for car ownership), and you could easily replace Nuvi with the next technology if needed.
Yes, a new Nuvi model (360) should be out in July that adds hands-free bluetooth communication with your cell phone. Will be handy for those buying Camry CEs or else an LE with only the standard base stereo. If you are going to get the optional Bluetooth stereo in your LE or planning to get an XLE, then you can get the current Nuvi 350 series now and not miss much of anything when it gets replaced this summer.
I gave my friend a heads up but he said that there would only be like a $200-500 below invoice so if you still want it, you can e-mail me and i'll give you his name.
Costco.com has a special on the Nuvi in April (4/7-23rd or something like that), comes with a $150 Costco cash card during that time.
Personally, I'd be more likely to go with one with an internal XM receiver (Costco sells a Garmin model with this, too) so the voice prompts from the nav can mute the music while it 'talks'.
The others are a bit bulky and have too many wires with the XM. Not easy to carry around in your shirt pocket or store in a small storage compartment like the Nuvi.
Yeah, and while you're there ask Mr. Longo while he sold the dealership to Mr. Richard Penske and the Penske group. And as far as I know Longo Toyota IS still the largest Toyota dealer in the US and probably the world and it's located in El Monte Ca. Mackabee :sick:
Not once in my life have I ever wished I had a nav system in my shirt pocket (not that I have shirt pockets). For the life of me, I can't imagine needing that ever. If I don't know where I am, I certainly am not leaving my car. :P
I don't want to navigate with a credit card-sized screen tucked in a low cubby behind the shifter, that is drowned out if music is playing. If I'm going non-in-dash, I want it big and in my face, and it's already going to be ugly with cords to the power hole and the stereo, may as well have an XM antenna hanging out there, too!
Well, you can mount the Nuvi up higher if you really want to and it can run for at least 4 hours on battery, so you don't HAVE to have any wires hanging from it unless you plan to use it all day.
Just being able to stick it in your pocket/purse or the little cubby by the shifter or under the armrest when you park without making a big production out of it is a great convenience and saves you from worrying about theft.
If you plan on listening to MP3s in the Camry, instead of burning them onto CDs, you can copy them to an SD card instead, stick it in the Nuvi and plug the Nuvi into the auxillary input in the lower dash area. You will be able to play the MP3s and hear the navigation directions no matter how high the stereo volume is turned up. You can buy a new CD to rip to MP3 every month with the money you save on satellite radio monthly fees.
The Toyota Installation Instructions show the Antenna mounted inside next to the high mounted stop light and the receiver mounted vertically on the right side of the trunk.
I hope those rear 6X9s are more than just midrange/tweeters or there will be no bass with that 440 watt system unless there is a subwoofer you didn't list.
SixLeaf: I bought my '07 XLE on March 20th through Costco -- and I got 2200 below MSRP -- no haggles whatsoever - -and full blue book trade in on my other car. I live in SO Cal too - Go with a buying service like Costco-Wayne
Njerald is right: -- I would rate mine a very good 100 -- 200 watt system -- but a 400 watt aftermarket system would be much more. I am satisfied by it though... as it sounds as good as it cost.....
I gotta tell ya, our 2003 Japan-made Accord had many more problems (dash lights that went out, major rattles, creaks) than our American made 2005 and 2006s. Could've been 1st year issues, but it didn't make a good showing for the J-guys overseas. I'll keep my Ohio-made Accord.
But I don't WANT to buy CDs, burn tracks, copy to cards, and stick cards in Nuvis. I want 150 channels of programming someone ELSE arranges and manages and buys and burns and sticks!
And I don't want to have to stick my nav in my purse or console to keep it from being a theft magnet. To me, hauling it back and forth everywhere IS a big production. It's a tool for the car; I'd like it to live in the car, and be powered by the car. To me, it'd be like taking a portable radio into the car for music every day. I work in my car and a couple hours charge isn't usually going to cut it. And I have to carry enough stuff back and forth to the car every day. :P
Jaxs, you've been a great info source and I'm just ribbing you at this point. I'm sure no one cares how much I NEED factory nav (except me!) You should sell those Nuvis professionally, though.
I took the 2007 Camry LE V6 out for a test drive yesterday for a taste of what the 268hp would actually handle & feel like. Cruising at a speed of 140km/85mph on the hwy I was very impressed with the acceleration & power, however I noticed that there was quite a noticeable amount of interior cabin wind noise in the car (on a mild&calm day in Toronto)? I double checked to ensure that none of the windows were opened, that the fan was turned off, and even went so far as to close all the vents. Has anyne else experienced this on their drives? was it something with this particular car? Comparing this to my current '99 Camry, it is a noticeable difference.
This is my first time buying a brand new car. I've decided on the '07 Camry LE V6. I also want a couple specific options, and (unfortunately) I'm only fond of 2 of their available colors. I'm getting the idea that it will be tough to find exactly what I want (i.e. wait for it to show up on a lot), and that it's tough to special order the exact car you want as well. I think I'll be lucky to see a V6 LE in sand mica or aloe green even show up on a lot, let alone one with the options i want.
My concern is that I'll be in a far better position to bargain with dealers (and pay closer to invoice than MSRP) if I wait until something "similar" to what I want shows up at a dealer, rather than trying to special order it. Would people on this forum agree that bargaining for the best deal between various dealerships is considerably easier with cars that are already sitting on the lot?
(That said, if it's even possible to get exactly what I want, it may be worth it to just buck up and pay another $1000-$2000 and be satisfied, if that's what I have to do.)
Actually, at this point I was comparing it to the bigger portable Garmin unit that has XM built-in, but isn't very "transportable," not factory nav What are you going to do with the larger units that can't run completely wirelessly on batteries? Leave them sitting out in plain sight? Put it in the trunk? The battery charge on the Nuvi is good for "at least" 4 hours (up to 8 hours). If you are really planning to use a nav system all day and plugging it in to the power port like a cell phone to charge is too much trouble, then you should probably just get an XLE with leather and buy the factory nav system. A Scion tC has a slider that covers the radio, so you can easily hide a built-in aftermarket stereo/nav system. Too bad Toyota didn't do this with the Camry also.
Most Cars have windnoise when you are going around 80 miles per hour. My Acura TL has windnoise going only 60 miles per hour, it just seems quiet because I put up the volume on the Bose Sound System and don't hear the wind noise but if the Sound System is off, I hear a lot of wind noise. It might be normal.
If Mary wants to listen to Mp3's she can plug in her I-pod or any Mp3 player into the auxilary input jack inside the center dash storage compartment. Provided she has an Mp3 player. Mackabee
If the option combination you want is available (check on the Toyota website), then yes, you will probably have more leverage bargaining for something on the lot. Your dealer may also be able to get it from another dealer.
I looked at the new Camry the other day and noticed the oil fill cap says to use 5w20 or 0w20 oil.Toyota has joined other manufactors in calling for the 20 weight oil
Why wait till what you want shows up on someone's lot? Contact the internet manager of several dealers, give him the exact specs you want and wait for their response. Chances are they will find a way to offer you exactly what you want - and you won't pay a premium for it.
I ordered a Black V6SE this week w/ the following options: Navigation System (incl. JBL & Bluetooth) Charcoal leather package Spoiler Moon roof package Stability /Traction Control Floor Mats XM Module
Final price was $28k. Dealer said it should take 4 - 8 weeks to arrive. They also offered a fair deal on my trade.
I stopped by my Toyota Dealer today to look at an 07 Camry. They had four in inventory, very nice looking car. Toyota did a great job with the 2007 Camry. No reason why the Camry won't remain the number one seller. Look out domestics!
So it does have a virtual psuedo "subwoofer" of sorts. Should sound much better than the Accord's stereo. Funny that a big corporate web site like Toyota used the spelling "base response."
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Longo quotes pretty good prices but I think thats a misprint.
As far as the 2006 LE V-6 for $15k out the door. I don't think that's possible. They would have to sell you it for about $13,800 before CA taxes (varies from county to county), license, $8.75 CA tire fee, and $45 doc fee.
In my neck of the woods, you can get an LE-4 (2006) for $16,500 (after the rebate), plus TTL. or probably about $18,250 OTD.
I can explain in further detail if you wish but there is mucho discussion here an in other forums.
That's a silly post regardless if the OP is a friend of Mr LONGO or not. The OP wants the world to believe that he can get a Toyota Camry at $6000 under invoice.... puleeeeze.
At "only" $1200 additional for the XLE models, it is only a few hundred more than a Nuvi, but if you add the cost of manadatory leather and then needing the seat heaters for winter because leather gets so cold, the $1200 navi will now really cost you $2690 for an XLE and $3890 for an SE (which doesn't come with the required 440W stereo as standard).
At those prices, aftermarket looks much better even if the portability (to take to car to car, walk around with or use on your European vacation) of something like the Nuvi wasn't a priority.
I'm more interested on how/why the practice of the port "middleman" installations of things better suited to a factory install happened. I don't see this with many other manufacturers.
How many people complained about the cost and ugly installation of XM radio in the Lexus or Avalon?
I know the 2007 Camry now has the antenna tacked on to the rear view mirror or rear deck (which is less unsightly than the trunk mounts), but that is still less than ideal and, on top of this, the post-manufacture installs add a great deal of cost.
Mackabee
If I go to Longo, can I get the deal, too?
Thank you!
And I am so sorry about the mistake on 2007 Camry LE price... It is 2006 model :surprise:
I am dealing with Longo's internet salesperson.
I wish you could help me to get a good price.
Please advise me how to do it.
my e-mail: harri0438 at gmail dot com
Thank you very much!
Tidewater
There are no "mounting hassle" with a Nuvi. Does't really need to be mounted at all and can run on batteries for a few hours. You can just lay it in the console and listen to the voice commands. You can mount it if you wish for easier visibility. It's easy enough to plug into the power adapter for extended use (no different than charging a cell phone) and put in your shirt pocket or purse to carry away or else store in one of the Camry's cubbies.
Owners say voice control is more hassle than it is worth after the novelty wears thin due to the fact it does not work 100% accurately.
If I were going to get an XLE with leather anyway, then the cost is close enough that I would just go for the factory nav for a little more convenience unless I needed portability.
If you really have no interest in leather or even prefer to NOT have leather, then the extra cost of the bundled options you would be forced to take to get factory nav makes less sense. If the main reason you are upgrading to an XLE vs an LE is because you can't get factory nav on an LE, the same thing applies.
Tidewater
If you are going to get the optional Bluetooth stereo in your LE or planning to get an XLE, then you can get the current Nuvi 350 series now and not miss much of anything when it gets replaced this summer.
Thanks
Personally, I'd be more likely to go with one with an internal XM receiver (Costco sells a Garmin model with this, too) so the voice prompts from the nav can mute the music while it 'talks'.
Mackabee :sick:
I don't want to navigate with a credit card-sized screen tucked in a low cubby behind the shifter, that is drowned out if music is playing. If I'm going non-in-dash, I want it big and in my face, and it's already going to be ugly with cords to the power hole and the stereo, may as well have an XM antenna hanging out there, too!
Just being able to stick it in your pocket/purse or the little cubby by the shifter or under the armrest when you park without making a big production out of it is a great convenience and saves you from worrying about theft.
If you plan on listening to MP3s in the Camry, instead of burning them onto CDs, you can copy them to an SD card instead, stick it in the Nuvi and plug the Nuvi into the auxillary input in the lower dash area. You will be able to play the MP3s and hear the navigation directions no matter how high the stereo volume is turned up.
You can buy a new CD to rip to MP3 every month with the money you save on satellite radio monthly fees.
(2) 2.6" tweeters, one on each side of dash
(2) 6x9 Midrange, one in each front ddor
(2) 6x9 Midrange w/ coax tweeters, mounted on rear deck.
Amp. under Pass. Seat
My bass isn't bad but not like a 440 Watt aftermarket system would sound. I'm sure it's 440 Watt peak also.
And I don't want to have to stick my nav in my purse or console to keep it from being a theft magnet. To me, hauling it back and forth everywhere IS a big production. It's a tool for the car; I'd like it to live in the car, and be powered by the car. To me, it'd be like taking a portable radio into the car for music every day. I work in my car and a couple hours charge isn't usually going to cut it. And I have to carry enough stuff back and forth to the car every day. :P
Jaxs, you've been a great info source and I'm just ribbing you at this point. I'm sure no one cares how much I NEED factory nav (except me!)
Cruising at a speed of 140km/85mph on the hwy I was very impressed with the acceleration & power, however I noticed that there was quite a noticeable amount of interior cabin wind noise in the car (on a mild&calm day in Toronto)? I double checked to ensure that none of the windows were opened, that the fan was turned off, and even went so far as to close all the vents.
Has anyne else experienced this on their drives? was it something with this particular car?
Comparing this to my current '99 Camry, it is a noticeable difference.
My concern is that I'll be in a far better position to bargain with dealers (and pay closer to invoice than MSRP) if I wait until something "similar" to what I want shows up at a dealer, rather than trying to special order it. Would people on this forum agree that bargaining for the best deal between various dealerships is considerably easier with cars that are already sitting on the lot?
(That said, if it's even possible to get exactly what I want, it may be worth it to just buck up and pay another $1000-$2000 and be satisfied, if that's what I have to do.)
TIA for any advice!
What are you going to do with the larger units that can't run completely wirelessly on batteries? Leave them sitting out in plain sight? Put it in the trunk?
The battery charge on the Nuvi is good for "at least" 4 hours (up to 8 hours). If you are really planning to use a nav system all day and plugging it in to the power port like a cell phone to charge is too much trouble, then you should probably just get an XLE with leather and buy the factory nav system.
A Scion tC has a slider that covers the radio, so you can easily hide a built-in aftermarket stereo/nav system. Too bad Toyota didn't do this with the Camry also.
Mackabee
I have emailed Toyota.
Anyone else have this problem?
Navigation System (incl. JBL & Bluetooth)
Charcoal leather package
Spoiler
Moon roof package
Stability /Traction Control
Floor Mats
XM Module
Final price was $28k. Dealer said it should take 4 - 8 weeks to arrive. They also offered a fair deal on my trade.
Should sound much better than the Accord's stereo.
Funny that a big corporate web site like Toyota used the spelling "base response."