2007 Toyota Camry

njerald

CF is the option order code for Floor Mats/Trunk mat.

virtking

My search is in preliminary stages. I haven't really defined yet what kind of car I want for the next 7-8 years, but so far I test drove just TSX (briefly) and new Camry. I will test them all more than once, that's for sure. I need to really like the car, so I won't start to regret 3-4 years later if not sooner.
Regarding folding mirrors, a number of people here already mentioned enough good reasons to have it, so I won't repeat it here. I haven't noticed wind noise from folding mirrors area on my current car (Mitsu Diamante '98), so I guess it depends on design. If Camry will get them, it would go higher on my list, but would not be a show stopper.

greencal

thanks, Is $ 19786, good price for LE with CF?

tuffy

NOPE, no hand holding necessary! But going to a local DC area dealer who may have 30 to 60 new camrys in stock will get them to stare at you like you have 5 heads if you even mention specail order. They say oh sure, but when the real details start, you find better luck in picking the right lottery number. According to Miller Toyota in Manassas VA, Toyota does NOT do special orders. You can request a certain vehicle and if the factory at Georgetown had planned computer schedule)to make that exact vehicle, you might be able to get it assigned to the dealer you are working with. However, an XLE 4 cylinder with VSC, non leather and NAV is probably not being scheduled for manufacture.

fsowirles

Lakeforest Toyota (Next to Costco in Gaithersburg) will order you what you want if they do not have it and honor the $600 over invoice. That is what I did and mine is coming in about 2 weeks.

loved1

Thanks everyone for your assistance. Buying tomorrow morning so if you know of any hot deals in DC for the 07 CE or the 06 Standard, please let me know. Thanks.

joecarnut

Sirius has a different satellite placement. I don't recall the term.
XM generally works better in regard to reception because of the satellite placement. Although if Sirius is also using terrestrial signals that can null out in differences in reception.
Check www.xm411.com or www.xmfan.com for details.
Ooops!
Looks like someone answered the question already.

joecarnut

Probably not too bad a price when comparing an 06 model with air bags and the newness of the 07 Camry.

njerald

You don't say whether it is a manual or automatic.

In my opinion:

Great price for an Auto ($200-300 over dealers invoice).

Lousy price for a Manual ($1,100-1,200 over dealers invoice).

sparrow1896

I'm trying to choose between a 2007 Camry and an Accord V6. I've done a brief test drive in each but I still need a little more time with them. Someone suggested I rent a car for a day and try it out and that a lot of dealers do that. Well, I'm having trouble finding someone who does. :confuse: Any suggestions? I live in No. VA so that's my preference but I could venture into Maryland.

Thanks.

kdhspyder

Call any Toyota store that is a TRAC dealership and see if they have a new '07 in the fleet. ( doubtful since they are so new ).

nvbrohoe

I just traded in a 2004 honda accord EX-L. Have you driven the 2007 camry? It's a great car and definitely worth looking at, the body style is nicer than the accord. The camry and the accord are the exact same invoice price (for EX-L and LXE) so guess It's just a matter of preference.

mary99

I'm condidering renting a car with nav to see if I like it.

For the Camry, you won't get a 2007 to rent (I don't think) but call car rental companies. For the Accord, I think you're out of luck. Honda claims they do not sell their cars to rental companies, which is (they claim) keeping resale values higher, though I'm not sure why that would be. I guess they figure the used market is flooded with used rental cars as they renew their fleets? Not sure.

njerald

Does the Accord have:

. Bluetooth
. Auto-Headlights
. 440 Watt Stereo
. Power passenger Seat
. Drivers Knee Air bag
. Alarm
. Reclining Rear Seats
. Climate Control on Steering Wheel
. Rear Sunshade
. Homelink
. Inside cabin Air Ionizer
. Tire Pressure Monitoring??????????????????

The XLE does!

sparrow1896

Yeah, I beginning to think that's the case. I did try a couple of TRAC dealers and they won't have any 2007s to rent for month. I'd like to test out navigation too. Any feedback about Toyota's system. Honda's gets pretty high marks. The dealer that showed me the car the first time didn't seem to know too much about the car so I didn't get the best introduction. I'm also wondering about that Smart Key business. I've heard they're real expensive to replace. Just paranoia on my part. I know they're suppose to be a safety feature but it all seems a little to slick for me.

wtliao321

Ok, I found some XM radio installation kits pictures on XMfan.com forum. It shows where the antenna will be installed on the truck lid (2005 Camry), and the other one is where receiver/tuner will be mounted in the trunk. I wonder this will be how 2007 Camry's XM raido antenna will look like - IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD TO ME.
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kdhspyder

It's a shame about the Navi demo or lack thereof. Since this is such a new option and frankly sales people don't normally make enough to own vehicles with Nav's they have little understanding about it.

Here is a good hint for everyone everywhere. If you want the best service call the Sales Mgr personally and tell him that you want to buy/demo-buy a specific vehicle and you're not sure about some of the features. Ask for his best/most knowedgeable person. Now it's his responsibility to make sure you are satisfied. Go early and ask for a day to demo it and test it all out.

The SKS feature is very very cool. One of the best in years. It's no different actually than the engine immobilizers in nearly all modern vehicles including the entry level Corolla's. Yes they are expensive to replace as are all engine immobilizer keys to the tune of ~$300 per key.

DO NOT LOSE YOUR ENGINE IMMOBILIZER KEY!!!

And under no circumstance should you ever lose both master keys. Then you might have a $2000 bill. This has nothing to do with the SKS specifically. It's in all models that use an engine immobilier system.

hawks1

I haven't had the opportunity to get a look at the new '07's as yet. Just wondered for the folks that have seen the new '07's if you've run into dealers with many remaining 06's. Seeing that there has been little change in the 4-cylinder engine and drive train, I'm kind of inclined at perhaps looking for a super bargain on an XLE '06. Also, I really want the added trunk space that the '06 offers which I understand the '07 does not.

kdhspyder

As of yesterday..

14 remaining '06's all LE + GY .. at killer deals
8 new '07 in a variety of trims. 100's more on order

jaxs1

I have also heard people say "special odering" a Toyota is not real. They simply "look out" for a car being built the way you want and get it redirected to their dealership, so there is no gauranteed maximum timeline to find one.
It is more like a "dealer trade" before the car is shipped to the dealer. They say the car is not really specially custom built for your order. It's really a car that was going to be built that way anyway.
Is this true or not?

yeuemhoai

21,735 claiming that 1% over dealer invoice (it's different from edmunds TMV since it includes holdback, is it true?)

TIA for reponses.

mackabee

Sure, provided it's being built by the factory. Special orders are very hard to fill mainly due to the Toyota Production System. They schedule way in advance what will be produced and with what options so a dealer sending in a special request or order for something they are not building to begin with will take an act of GOD literally to get built. And in the event that GOD approves the request your minimum wait is three months and up to six months. Vehicles that are already in the pipeline are not "special orders" you just happen to want something that is already being built and you happen to want the options that are being put on it.

Mackabee

njerald

Dealers Invoice includes Regional Advertising charge by the manufacturer.

Has nothing to do with holdback.

Sounds close to 1% which would be great price.

mackabee

It's true.
Mackabee

yeuemhoai

Thanks for quick response.

Here is what the saleman said "Edmunds does not have access to Dealer Holdback and Financial Reserve which are part of the Invoice Price."

kdhspyder

What you say is very likely since it's easier and quicker to trade one from elsewhere, if that other one already exists. If no other exact vehicle is out in the system just like the buyer wants then it is put in as a preference and the regional office has to get it to the plant in some manner. If it is truly one of a kind it may take a lonnnnggg time.

In this specific case of an XLE with NV+VS I wouldnt be surprised to see these two 'packaged' together in the near future. There are a lot of people who don't want either LA or SR but do want everything else on the 2540's.

This 'preferencing' methodology I believe is how Toyota hears from the market, especially on newly launched products. As they say money talks. If this is what the public wants to buy then this is what it will get.

njerald

I would say that is true.

Dealers will make money on a car if they sell at invoice and don't have excessive inventory charges.

Whether they make enough to pay the salesmen and overhead at invoice, I don't know.

Remember, parts and service are also dealer income generators.

Manufacturer Incentives and holdbacks are 2 of the ways they earn $$$ on each car sale.

mackabee

Wrong! There are only two ways these cars are coming into our region. 2540 with VS, OR 2540 with VS, LA, HD. no Navigation on the 4 cylinder xle. Go to www.buyatoyota.com and input your zip and you'll see what's currently available in CAT.

Mackabee
p.s. that was a thinly veiled attempt at soliciting business there Bob. I'm surprised your post hasn't been zapped yet.

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mackabee

Boy that's another Urban Legend if I ever heard one! Toyota (the manufacturer and distributor) doesn't give a hell of beans what the dealers sell the cars for. Toyota has their money now it's up to the individual dealers to sell the product for what the market will bear.
Mackabee

joecarnut

An earlier poster mentioned they will mount the antenna in the back under the rear glass on the panel that holds the speakers.
No telling where they'll put the XM box, but it will be hidden.

mary99

I didn't read that whole thread but that sounds and looks like a home install, not a dealer install.

kdhspyder

But go into Dealer Daily, it's possible, we did it Wed night. The four options are independent, if wanted.

gampa

This sounds like a silly question... but can a remote starter be added to a hybrid automatic?

Results would be to cool/heat your car... and recharge the battery pack.

Gampa.

njerald

Stay tuned. You will find out in a moth or so if it a Toyota option.

sixleaf

Man, where are you guys getting this kind of deals? I've called just about every Toyota dealership in the greater LA area and the best deal I can get is $18,594 for a manual CE. Everyone else I asked wanted MSRP and not a dime less. Can someone tell me where a poor guy can get a Camry without paying the full MSRP? :confuse:

sixleaf

Greencal, you must tell me where you got this quote. All the dealership I've asked (around LA) wouldn't take a penny off the MSRP. By the way, the document fee I have seen is $45. I think that's a bogus fee anyway. Tax should just be the regular sales tax, 8.25%. I don't know about the lic fee but it should be pretty standard, I think.

fsowirles

Really??? I hear that kind of stuff all the time. Toyota is probably getting some sort of kickback (Central Atlantic) based upon sticker sales, and in turn rewards the dealer with better allocations. I don't know about Toyota, but I know this kind of stuff is fact in other makes.

fsowirles

Mackabee: Mine was already in prodcution, but it was not being sent tot he dealer with everyting I wanted and they got two things added as PIO/PPO after getting approval. I know it isn't a 'special order' but it is above and beyond what the car was set to be built with.

fsowirles

Can someone tell me where a poor guy can get a Camry without paying the full MSRP?

Fitzgerald Auto Mall Online

w9cw

sixleaf wrote: "By the way, the document fee I have seen is $45. I think that's a bogus fee anyway."

Actually, the doc fee is a valid charge due to the time required to process the TTL documents required by the Federal and State governments. That said, $35 to $50 for a doc fee is sufficient -- anything above that amount is pure profit for the dealer.

mackabee

You can do a preference but if the car is not being built as per the monthly TVO it's not going to get built. Look at the current TVO and I bet it says 2540 VS or 2540 VS, LA, HD, as factory options.
Mackabee

njerald

You can't call dealers, Number 1. A regular salesman isn't going to give you more than hot air..

Email/Fax the Internet Sales Manager at every local dealership and tell him what you want, that you are contacting all the other area dealers and will buy at the best price.

If that's too much work, you could use the Costco or Sam's Club service or any of the on-line discount buying services, Carsdirect, Autobytel, etc.

mackabee

That's not something unusual. We do it all the time. Trade allocations or straight dealer exchange. Port installed items can also be installed at the dealership for the most part. Cheaper if they are done at the port in case or remote keyless entry or alarms, or remote engine starters. Congrats and enjoy your new Camry you will not be disappointed!

Mackabee

mackabee

Or you could just do it the old fashion way. Walk into a dealership, test drive, and negotiate your best deal. If you know what you're doing it should take more than 2 hours from start to finish to drive out with your new Camry.

Mackabee

mackabee

SR is now standard on 2540's.

Mack

mackabee

Correction. They will be available with NV on the 4 cylinder in April. However, they will come with the leather, heated seats, and vehicle stability. NV,LA,HD,VS. There are currently three on order in Dealer Daily.
Mackabee

jaxs1

Seems like many things listed as PIO options would really have been better and much more cheaply installed at the factory during the assembly process (satellite radio, remote starters, alarms etc.)
PIO options are listed/printed on the MSRP sticker, so they were obviously preplanned and not something added at the last minute.

Why would they build a car without the remote starter or satellite radio, then transport it to the port, then partially disassemble it again to install these items, then ship it to the dealer? Not efficient or cost effective and you don't get as clean an installation (especially for satellite radios and their antenna).
The remote starters factory-installed in GM cars like the Chevy Malibu cost a fraction of the cost of the $595 Toyota remote engine starter and work better without the complaints about range etc. that Toyota Avalon owners make.

Seems like a way for the people who operate these "ports" to make money (similar to government "pork barrel" to give legitimacy to hugely marked-up accessories like "Protection Pkg" and "Protection Pkg Plus" which have markups that are more the 3 times the invoice cost in the "Southeast Region."
(Includes Exterior Paint Sealant, Toyo Guard Sealant Cleaner, Undercoating/Sound Shield, Fabric Protector & Permavin/Glass Etch Theft Deterrent)
That is the sort of stuff that dealers/finance departments pressure people to buy at the back end of the sale and, with this pre-installed at the port and listed on the MSRP sticker, they can just say "Toyota" put it on the car before they got it and they have no control.
The Southeast Region adds a $672 "Southeast Toyota administration charge." What is this about and does anyone know how that got started? Doesn't that added mark-up make the sales prices less competitive compared to non-Toyota cars sold in the same states?

torr310

Got a quote for 2007 Camry LE Automatic for

$18,197
- $ 750 rebate
= $17,447

from LongoToyota in Los Angeles

lexus460l

I can probably get a Camry LE V6 for like about $15000 out the door.
Only in Longo Toyota in los Angeles

joecarnut

Like mentioned on an earlier post use the internet to ask for quotes. Ask for out the door prices. best to know exactly what you want and if flexible on colors let them know your choices. You can have the deal ready and just go test drive and make sure the vehicle is in perfect shape.
Use this at-la.com to find dealer web addresses in So-Cal.
Also use dealer quotes against other dealers quotes and read some of the buying info on the Edmunds site.
It works!