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Thanks for any and all information/ suggestions you can provide.
Mike in PA
I hop other post this problem and complain to Honda. I can't belive it's normal, it should not be that loud. Honda should look for a fix and recall for this problem.
Others.. please post if you've encounted this problem with the '05 Odyssey.
I don't understand why this would be a "problem"?
It's a 20 millisecond sound, not a big deal, is it?
Personally I think Chrysler purposely builds "questionable" vehciles to subsdise their service depts. Why else would they offer a 7/70,000 warranty. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll find out. We pick up a new EX-L next week.
Just My Opinion
mbjst
Baraboo, WI
Enjoy!!
I know this has been asked before, but I was wondering if anyone has new info on when the '06 Odyssey is coming out. Trying to decide between the Odyssey and the Sienna, and the info on when the '06 is coming out will help me decide.
thank you.
I will see if I can hear anything when I drive it this afternoon.
As for the Vibration at aprx 45MH, I did not notice this vibration on several drives, but will continues pay attention.
I have a similar problem with my EX, my vehicle makes a "louder than normal" sound when trying to maintain a constant speed or on slight acceleration. And it doesn't seem to be MPH range specific. This sound is very annoying, sounds like the trans is lugging or a leak in the air intake, or both. This sound is very difficult to describe here and is best understood on a test drive.
Thank you, and please keep us informed....
for your need they show the wiring harness installation.
I like the Ody engine & trans, very smooth and quick accel. Also like the conversation mirror, Driver/Passenger center console that flips down, the 8th seat, passenger shades and windows that go down, rear view camera, 9" DVD screen. I don't like the lack of a power lift gate unless you get the top line model, then you loose the 8th seat and have to pay a lot more, bad move if you ask me. I also don't like the lack of rear vents, and the location of the DVD player is dumb.
I like the T&C limited because I get a lot more car for the money. The only complaints are; the emergency brake release location, doesn't have the ody engine & trans and other things mentioned above. It does have a trip computer, compass, seat/mirror/pedal/radio memory.
I had planned on waiting until next year but both dealers have called me back; The Honda dealer finally has one in with the DVD/NAV, and the Chrysler dealer has lowered the price further. I can see that it really pays take time and not get rushed into either purchase.
One question I have is, is anyone getting 28 MPG on the highway in the Ody, I have yet to hear of anyone getting 28 MPG. I test drove a Dodge Grand for 3 days and for the most part I was able to get the stated MPG according to the trip computer. I have a PT cruiser that gets the stated MPG so I would guess the T&C is close to the stated MPG.
I'm a little worried about getting the Honda, I like it for all it's gadgets, but I don't like what I'm reading about it on not only this forum but others. It could be that people just expect more from the Honda, but I don't think so. I only read a few minor complaints about the T&C and DGC.
My view is that Honda (and some others) are now somewhat victims of their own success. Having created superior products, folks expect perfection. Rather than rely on recent anecdotes, take a look at the long term reliability and cost of both makes.
It is true the '05 Odyssey has experienced some teething problems. However, most of the issues have been minor and quickly resolved. Mine, built in 2/05, has none of those problems.
The Hidden Hitch looks so much easier to install and I am wondering if it is.
Mike in PA
Mike
in the last couple of days, i have noticed that the vehicle position is at times off on the actual street map. it is as though the displayed position is lagging behind the actual position. but again, while lagging, if i make a turn, the display is immediately updated with the turn and as a result, i see the vehicle going not on any road. at this point, the display is updated - the vehicle position jumps to a point on the street. btw, honda even refused to tell me the alpine systems model number that they use. do any of you know that information ??
my advice to buyers: dont get the nav. you can get the new alpine version with a remote control and a much better display for almost the same price if not cheaper.
the screen in the RES also seems to be of a very poor quality. we can get a better one for around 1000 usd (installed) which plays cd-rw, mp3 etc.
I've beat the EPA on many of my vehicles, and I don't drive conservatively by any stretch. My Tahoe really never averaged less than 15mpg (except when towing or lots of idling) and would get 20mpg on all highway stretches running at least 70mph. It was rated 14city/17hwy. My diesel Jetta will turn 50mpg at 70mph (rated for 48mpg) but I usually run 80+ and average 47mpg. Bummer.
My first fill on the Ody returned 19mpg in a 70/30 split. So I'm getting about 4mpg better than a 290hp V8 4x4 Tahoe. Hopefully this motor loosens up. I didn't buy it for the fuel mileage, but I'd be satisfied if it'll at least average 22mpg.
Actually the number on the sticker on the car is 22% less than what the EPA test resulted in.
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The hitch seems to bolt right into the frame with ready made threaded holes (from what I could tell). The bumber however needs to be cut, The instarutions provide a cutting template. The bumper needs to be removed for this but it only seems to hang on a few bolts. The 4 prong wiring harness gets installed by basically plugging in the wiring module ( I think there is a wire going over to the right tail lamp). Allthe trunk trim needs to be rmoved.
About to take the plunge. Have a 2004 EX (cloth and DVD) and am working on getting the EXL (with DVD and Navi). What are the differences in comfort, ride, handling, etc. Let me know what you think of the different model years. I know that I will take a hit on the trade-in. I have already done a search for my question in the forum.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Emil
I actually prefer the seats of the 2001 EX over the 2002 and 2005. The 60/40 Split Magic seat and Plus one middle seat 2nd row are nice features but would not be worth taking the big loss you will take trading in an almost new 2004. I have also read here in the Town Hall that the radio reception is not as good in the 2005 as in the earlier models.
I've never detected a probelm with radio reception on the 2005's. Maybe more in fringe areas? Certainly nothing to
It seems to me that the 2002 Odyssey cloth seats had more curvature in both the back and the bottom of the seats and the fabric material had been changed from the 1999-2001 models. With leather, the seats were more similar between 2001 and 2002 than with cloth.
In 1971, having my license exactly one week, I rolled a '65 Buick doing about 60. The driver's door came open. Secured by a lapbelt only, I went nowhere and sustained only some cuts from flying glass as the windows blew out.
Would it be better if the door stayed closed? Sure, but better yet would be a vehicle (any vehicle) that could maintain full passenger compartment integrity in a 60-70 mph head-on crash.
Pros:
Dashboard design is very attractive. Significantly better than Sienna's plastic-feel.
Transmission is smooth.
DVD has kept the peace with 3 kids. Movies are clear. Also, found auxiliary input ports for LCD and played PS2 game on long trip - need to buy lighter/AC converter to power PS2 console..
Sunken trunk actually holds more than Caravan.
Cons:
Have had two fender benders - probably bad driving - but had no similar incidents with caravan in 8 years of driving. I think that the rear end of the Odyssey is a bit wider than Caravan's. (One good note is that the shallow dents popped out on its own so we just had to paint it.)
Rear hatch was hard to close. Fixed with Warranty visit.
Wind noise from front windshield. They're ordering parts recommended by a service bulletin.
Slight wind noise from passenger window. Fixed with warranty visit.
The customer service at the Bellevue service department is very good - I wished I could say the same for their sales department.
Happy driving.
See if somebody makes a class I hitch for light towing. Class I hitches usually have a simple bar that can wrap up and around the bumber so maybe you can avoid cutting the bumber.
I'm only getting about 19-20mpg on the first few tanks, but this motor feels a little tight. Performance is a little less than I expected as well, so it may just take some miles to come around a bit. I replaced a 4x4 V8 Chevy Tahoe with the Odyssey and if you look at the specs they aren't all that far apart. The Ody has 20 less hp, is 500# lighter, and dimensionaly almost identical. I usually averaged 16mpg with the Tahoe in the same driving (and 20mpg on the highway). IMHO, the EPA numbers are a bit inflated on the EX-L models because of the cylinder deactivation. I think it gives a bigger boost on the EPA sticker simply because of how the test is performed. I doubt there's more than 1-2mpg difference between the two engines in real-world. I'd be happy with a 22mpg average when it's all said and done although mpg isn't really why I bought another big heavy vehicle!
What was the final layout?
Thanks,
Rob
Until I had about 3,000 miles on my 05 Touring, I was getting worse mileage than you.
I now get around 18 mpg in the city with lots of loooong stoplights.
When I get on the highway, mpg goes up to around 24mpg, with some stretches where I am getting over 26 mpg.
Wait a while, your mileage should improve.
Good luck,
Rick
I usually classify non-highway driving as city, but there could be a wide variation in city driving that may result in the differences in mpg plus all the others things such as tire pressure, altitude, climate, driving style etc.
18-19 does seem a “little” low for almost all highway driving @ 65mph, but excluding anything wrong mechanically, when all is said and done it gets what it gets. I’d be a little upset thinking I’ve been “taken” by false advertising; but the sticker is an EPA sticker...
I just had 17.4 on my first tank of gas with 50/50 driving (non Odyssey) and I’m “ok” with that.
Was I glad I did. I had to drive a ways to pick it up , about an hour, but that was 50 minutes longer than it took to install it. If I had been hustling, didn't rust proof the bolts and had an air- wrench, I think I could have had this on in three minutes- literally. Hidden Hitch is a well-designed, sturdy and unobtrusive hitch.
( hidden means nicely tucked in under the bumper which makes it look as if someone thought about how it would look as well as perform.)
You are correct, its receiver is a bit low but I inverted the drop bar and voila, the perfect height for a trailer that requires a ball.
Now I am hoping the wiring solution will be equally easy to solve. I think I am going to do what I did with my old Previa. I simply connected the harness to the van let it dangle over the back and closed the door on it. The door gasket sealed fine with seemingly no damage over 7 years to the wire or the door gasket. I DID eventually develop some latch issues but I doubt they were related to the wire- the van had 213 k on it so some hardware failure was expected.
I don't use this trailer often enough to warrant removing the bumper just to thread a wire. But I do use it for an occasional three hour hall so now I have to start saving for the coolers. I'm going to do without them until my trailer runs are longer than two or three miles to pick up mulch, etc , etc. If you discover a place that sells the coolers for less than the fortune the dealer is asking, please FILL ME IN.
Oh, yes,.. The dealer spec'd harness looks to cost about $150.00. The Odyssey's owners manual states that if another harness is used, the pins and plug are available at the dealer. I wonder if this could be a viable and LESS EXPENSIVE alternative for someone who appreciates a kiss- (keep it simple stupid) wiring design. Does anyone know anything about the wiring? The guy who sold me the hitch offered me a wiring harness for about $35.00 but he said it needed to be hard wired in. Do you have any experience with alternatives to the "solid gold, diamond studded" harness Honda provides? Thanks again for all your help. It was a money saver so far.
PAchiefman
P.S. I am looking for 6 stainless steel bolts to swap out for the factory galvanized ones Hidden Hitch provided. If anyone knows a source for metric stainless steel hex cap bolts in the seemingly rare size and thread of 12mm x 35mm x 1.25 thread, please sing out. I've been searching online but standard is way more common than metric, and the fine thread at 12 x 35 mm seems even more rare. A "nutty" request I know. ---ok, that was bad. :P
I'm looking to replace my beloved Audi A4 wagon with something with more room when my lease runs out in a couple of months. I think I am down to an Ody Touring or a Ford Freestyle Ltd. Unfortunately, neither has exactly all the features that I want. Specifically, the Honda lacks AWD. I live in Ohio and have to contend with nasty weather at least occasionally, and I don't have the option of not driving if it is bad out. Is there anyone here who has had AWD on a previous vehicle that misses it's lack on the Ody?
Thanks!