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I agree with locking the door but I want to do it myself. As to you 2001 DGC EX features... cool!!!
To me this is the most logical approach from a safety and convenience approach. I believe you can also change the programming of the autolocks, but I have never done it on our Caravan, as I like the factory settings.
Luckily, the vast majority of my driving takes places where a car jacking wouldn't be an issue. That said, it looks like my next vehicle will have auto locks. Hopefully I won't hate them.
The luxury, the power, the cool electronics (navigation) and styling
I am also getting great mileage - city 21 mpg - (picking up kids from school/running local errands). I haven't done any highway driving yet but hope I will get 28mpg+
When I purchased my Odyssey my brother had just purchased an 05 E-class Benz and a friend of mine just happened to buy a BMW 5-series.
Believe it or not my Odyssey has more luxury features than their $57,000+ cars!!!
You are. Most people who live in metropolitan areas want this feature. It's a great safety option. The keyword being "option"! I like the fact that it's there on the Touring (and I do have it enabled) and I like the fact that it can be disabled. In my opinion this is the only way the autolocking feature should be offered - with the ability to turn it off.
On the Dodge/Chrysler you can turn this feature on or off. As for Isell, maybe if Honda offered it on all their models, that side door wouldn't have opened in the government crash test like it did. Also seems like with Isell, if Honda doesn't offer it on their vans, it's really not worth having.
Does anyone know how to remove the PIN after setting it? I set it, but find it a pain everytime I have to put it in.
Regards,
Emil
If I'm in a wreck, I want people to be able to get me out!
Well if Honda was like many others, they allow you to to program them to either lock or not lock automatically. At least you have a choice. Honda gives you no choice.
Which he did!
The only Harley-D vehicle mod I am aware of is the F-150 truck version.
I agree with you. It would be a good thing to have an option for auto locking doors. For those who feel as I do, they could be disabled. You could have your doors lock by themselves.
Please make auto door locking a feature from at least the EX model upwards. My other 4 vehicles from 4 different manaufacturers come with auto door locks.
We are currently getting an average of 18 mpg city or highway despite the sticker stating 22 mpg city & 28 mpg highway.
Two other couples with whom we are friends purchased 05 Odyssey's and both get around 30 mpg (straight off the lot).
We have had it in the dealership 4 times, full diagnostics, nothing. No check engine lights, nothing shows up despite the fact that we are getting 18 mpg.
Option
We've taken this to the Regional Manintenance Director for Honda and he has essentially told us that's the breaks to which I countered, 'you're telling me that I just bought an expensive gas burner?" 'I guess,' was his reply.
He offered to drive it this next Wednesday for the whole day exactly as the EPA suggests and see if he can get better gas mileage; if not, then we don't know what we are going to do.
SOLUTIONS
What has been the experience of others with the 05 Odyssey, what kind of gas mileage did you get?
Does anyone have suggestions as to how or what we so do with our Odyssey? Should we demand a new one?
Please let me know ASAP.
Thanks,
Darrell :mad: :mad: :mad:
Also, I do know from personal experience that Hondas have a way of getting better mileage with time. I can't explain it but I've heard over and over how mileage will pick up after a few thousand miles.
I'm not so sure your two friends are REALLY getting 30 MPG. I suppose it's possible but it sounds a bit far fetched to me.
Hopefully it'll improve for you.
I would tend to agree. I doubt if your friends are getting 30mpg on their vans. Reading many of the posts here, most are not getting anywhere near that. People have a tendency to stretch the truth a bit to make their vans seem better than someone elses. I would think if you got 18 city and 26 highway, your in line with many others.
Lacking precise fuel-usage metering, the only reasonable way to accomplish this is to fill up the tank completely, zero out your trip odometer for a handy distance measure, and then refill up the tank completely (trying as much as possible to duplicate the level of fullness as you did the first time -- say three auto-shutoffs past the first auto-shutoff of the pump in an attempt to avoid variations in pump characteristics). Then you will know how far the vehicle traveled (from the trip odometer) and how much fuel was used (from how much you had to put in to refill the tank).
If you perform that procedure periodically or do it every fill up over a few weeks, you should get a pretty accurate representation of the mileage.
And for truly "real world" figures that should include all of the normal activities (such as idling) that the vehicle undergoes rather than an isolated period of driving without any stops. If you do the latter, warn people of the specialized nature of the measurement.
Belated WARNING!: Since math is involved in the above, not everyone will get it....
Dilbertzzz is also correct that if you come across something out of the ordinary that causes you to idle a lot, (Road construction, accident, etc) make a note of it on your receipt. so you can put that tankful aside and not use it to get an average over a month or so of keeping track. It would also help if you put down if the tank full was mostly with, or without A/C. You can separate them later and see how much more your using when the A/C is on by averaging it out.
Belated WARNING!: Since math is involved in the above, not everyone will get it....
Get your Mom or Dad to help if you can't do it yourself. They should remember how, since back then they had no calculators and they really taught math.
Regarding gas mileage, the best that I have been able to do in our Ody was about 22 mpg with about 60% city and 40% highway and I tend to have a lead foot. If it were mostly highway, like a 800 mile trek to Canada, I suppose that I would get in the upper 20's mpg. But I would likely be driving in the 80+ mph for long stretches which would drop the mpg.
Very true macakava. If you start off easy and keep your speed as near constant as possible, mileage will increase. Watch your lights about a block before coming to them. If they're red, ease off the gas so that you can make the light without stopping. Starting from a dead stop uses the most gas. Use your cruise control as much as possible on freeways. Turn the cruise off when climbing and coming down hills. Using the cruise climbing hills, usually kicks the tranny into a lower gear more, thus using more gas. If the hill is not too steep descending, you don't need the cruise to slow you down, also saving you gas. Keep tire pressure up. Use A/C instead of opening your windows at higher speeds.
But as the ancient dis-oriented philosopher Confusion use to say (and Father Guido later confirmed), "Much is taught, but little remains five minutes after the last bell rings!"
I believe that he was also the one first to say,
"You ask credit; I say no, you get mad.
I give credit; you no pay, I get mad.
Better you get mad!"
Ah sooo. In that case, punch in the miles driven on your calculator. Then hit the division key. That's the one with a strait line with a dot on top and a dot on the bottom.Then punch in how many gallons you put in your van and hit the button with two strait lines to give you the answer.
I have heard varying theories that the Ody might be too large and heavy for IMA to make much difference and that the battery packs necessary might be too large.
Any thoughts on this?
Why pay these folks(Harley and Eddie) royalty fees if it is unnecessary? "Touring" would suffice and be more effective in my opinion.
The cashier pondered a few moments and then asked the manager: "What change do I give back for $10.15 when the purchase was $ 9.12"?
Had I been driving a new Odyssey and the gasoline cost $ 29.12, I would have put another 88 cents worth ( a few drops? ) to make the amount even.
high-pitch "noise" when it is in speed 30-40 miles at quiet local street. if on highway
the road noise will overpower the high-pitch one. The "noise" is very gentle and
weak and you must pay great attention to find it. But once I recognize it I always
can sense it. I thought I didn't turn off the radio at lowest volume
when the first time I notice the "noise". it seems from the speaker or background.
But my friend said it seems from transmition.
The dealer mechanic said the "noise" may be from the speaker, and may generate
from the anti-noise system. He points out the noise is more recognizable when eco
light is on. He said he will check the other new Odyssey if it can duplicate
the "noise". The "noise" pattern will change, sometimes even like classic music!
The car is very stable and cannot feel any vibration or any wrong.
Any 2005 odyssey owners have similar experience?
Definitely not on EX. That confirms my suspicion that the VCM and active mounts/noise cancelling is a rather suspicious and unrefined feature: to avoid until second or third generation.
I have taken the van in to be evaluated, but I was told (after the dealership had my car for 7 days), that there was no "code" coming up, and that if there were a problem, the engine light should have lit. I asked them to check the brakes for uneven or excessive wear, but there is no indication on the work order that this was done. I asked them about the possibility of the computer chip which records all the diagnostic codes being defective. How would they assure themselves that this wasn't the case? I received no answer to this.
I was told on the phone before I brought my van in, that Honda's don't break in until between 3500-5000 miles, so I shouldn't worry about the gas mileage. When I took my van in at 3450 miles, I was told that it wouldn't be broken in until between 7500-10000 miles. When I asked if Honda drove each of its models 7500 miles before they were tested by the EPA, I was told that they weren't sure of how that worked.
I took my van home, and continue to get lousy gas mileage. The problems I have described are becoming more frequent, so hopefully it will break down soon. That way the dealership shouldn't have any problem duplicating my complaints. If I'm being overly picky about gas mileage (and there isn't some underlying problem), then eventually my mpg should improve and they can tell me "I told you so." My money is on the eventual breakdown of the van.
Are there any diagnosticians out there who can come up with possible scenarios based on the symptoms of my van's problem(s)? I fear that service departments of dealerships have become staffed by technicians who can only act (or think) if they are flashed some code on a diagnostic screen.
weak and you must pay great attention to find it. But once I recognize it I always
can sense it.."
From what you described, it does not sound like a mechanical problem per se, but mainly a side effect of your highly attuned ears.
I don't notice the ANC at all in my Odyssey Touring.
Honda has been using this technology in it's Japanese-market cars since about 2000, so it's not like this is brand new for them.
As I understand it, the way ANC works in the Ody is that there is a microphone connected to the car stereo system that picks up all the sound inside the van, including music or such from the stereo. Then the noise-cancellation system subtracts the sound of the music coming from the stereo and produces noise-canceling sound waves that match the frequency of unwanted sound. The noise-canceling sound waves are also sent through the stereo speakers, along with the music.
Shoots, if that thing worked really well then talking inside the van would be like Agent 86 (Maxwell Smart) trying to talk to the Chief in the Cone of Silence:
"So, honey, can we stop soon?"
"HUH, I CAN'T HEAR YOU?"
"HONEY, CAN WE PLEASE STOP SOON?!"
"WHAT? SPEAK UP, I CAN'T MAKE OUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?!?"
(Both resort to hand signals with choking signs and threatening gestures included.)
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ANC can be used to mask out the voice of your nagging spouse in the Ody!!
No, that would be a constant noise, not just a sound.
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