Honda Odyssey 2005+

jchan2

Mine is holding up quite well, although some of the trim pieces that see a lot of foot traffic are starting to get dirty... (2002 Odyssey EX- Mesa Beige/Ivory Interior)

I'm still going to stick with Ivory though...

bagi

What is really break-in period for odyssey 2005. ? is it after some 3K miles
? thx

bitright

This may apply to more than '05 Odys, but maybe not if Honda metal and processes are different than others. A search on the topic revealed discussion five years old. I've just purchased a 2005 EXL+RES/NAV to arrive soon. For ~$750 the dealer will have various treatments done to the vehicle, including undercoating and rustproofing. These two treatments alone at $425 "extend" the warrantee from 5 to 10 years, but only for rust-through, not merely surface rust. I drive my vehicles until the wheels fall off. Didn't buy this on my 2001 Accord--no rust yet. Scothguard and polymer waxes are cheap and work well. But what about the rustproofing and undercoating? Should I save my money on those too?

jchan2

Typically they're not worth it, and neither of my Hondas have rusted through yet. (There's little spots, of course, from rocks chipping very tiny spots, but that's it)

Save your $$$....

sebring95

These are HIGHLY profitable services, and there's something to be said for that. I've seen fleet vehicles abused, never washed, etc. and still not have complete rust-through in 10 years. Usually where there was rust was from unrepaired damage, or where rocks had been drug along the underside of cabs.

Even the smallest amount of care will get you way past 10 years even without the treatment.

mshughes

Darrell, I am right there with you. The last time I filled up my Ody I got 16.5 MPG!!! I am pissed. I gave up my fully loaded Tahoe that got 16 MPG for the "mini van" hoping to increase gas miles.

Michael
:mad:

raleighwolf

My wife's 05 Ody has been in the shop three time for a total of about 6 days now. They are unable to fix the NAV that is frozen up. This is also linked to the rear camera. They claim to have had American Honda Techs, the NAV vendor and design team trying to figure this out....

They admitt they are stumped. They have given us a rental Van. We want our Ody back and we want it fixed...

What recourse do I have at this point?

HELP

sebring95

You might be able to pursue lemon laws, depends on your state. Many allow for three attempts to fix something and/or 30 days out of service before it qualifies as a lemon. However, I think you'll be disappointed going into a lemon law hearing because of a locked-up NAV screen. The folks in line with cars that won't run will likely boo you out of the place.

Hopefully they're giving you a car while they're working on it, so just let them go at it. Stuff happens.

phyldon

erinmcooley-was this problem ever fixed? I have '05 with ~7500 miles and my wife recently pointed out to me a grinding noise in front brakes when doing heavy braking on dry surfaces. I haven't brought it in yet, but was curious if your's was resolved?

macakava

Sounds like ABS system working if your wife is using lead feet to stop.

96corolla

Does anyone know if it is possible to get 3 car seats in the 2nd row of the Oddy EX (8 passenger). Thanks.

tsrail

Just picked up our new 05EX-L today. I have 4 kids ( 3 in car seats). In my opinion, you *could* fit a 3rd car seat on the "bonus" seat (2nd row - center), depending on the width and types of carseats you need to use. The safety belt comes down from the celing for this seat. (LATCH only on the 2 outer ("captains chair") seats.

I'm not sure how stable and safe (rocking around or sliding) the middle car seat would be. There is, however, one LATCH in the back row now, too! (I just traded in my 02 ODY. Didn't have any back row LATCH.

ivan_99

You might be able to pursue lemon laws, depends on your state. Many allow for three attempts to fix something and/or 30 days out of service before it qualifies as a lemon.

Would a NAV system qualify?

I always thought the Lemon Laws applied only if something major could not be repaired; something that if it were not fixed would make the vehicle un-drivable or dangerous.

So…you could not invoke the lemon law if they failed to fix your glove box 3 times…even though it may have been annoying and you were inconvenienced.

Or not.

doglady

There is something wrong with your van, I get 25.5 mpg on all highway and 19-21 in city. I had a problem with my airbag (the warning ligth came on) and got the same kind of response about the computer code, they didn't have a clue. What was weird was that the 'computer' was showing a code but the manual didn't have the code so they didn't know what to do. They light eventually went off, I hope my airbags are functional!

96corolla

On first drive, we tend to like the Ody more, but this 3rd car seat is a MAJOR requirement of ours and we don't want to let emotion drive the decision and then be stuck with a non usable seat. I've been on the Ody forums and it looks like the general concensus is that if you can get a seat to fit correctly per the manufactureres instructions, it is OK. If not, it is not OK. There is a subset of people that say don't use it - NO WAY, so it is a tough call. I'll just keep doing the research and I think next time I go to Honda I will take the infant base and see what I can do.

Thanks. Any insight anyone else has would be appreciated.

raleighwolf

Now that I have checked with an Attorney, the answer is that the NAV system would qualify.

I have a case.

BUT

Ivan 99 is correct...so what if I win the case and then HONDA has to buy back my Ody. Problem is we like our Ody and finding another Touring model tricked out like this one will take some time....so...all we really want is the thing fixed....and they have NOW finally done this....

Lemon law is that they have three times to fix problem or 15 days...then Lemon Law can be envoked....which means they have to buy back the vehicle.

Not the outcome we were looking for but ultimately we did get the Van back and fixed.

phyldon

I thought of that too (both the ABS and wife's foot), but it doesn't sounds like ABS to me. Too much of a grinding/crunching sound. Happens about 1/2 second before the van stops-almost like the rotor is grinding to a halt. Anyway, we're bringing it into a dealer on Thursday and hopefully will get some insight.

macakava

It may be that the brake pads are worn very low and the wear indicator is making these noises. If true, then it is a simple job of replacing the pads. Usually happens with higher mileage after 40K or if one rides the brakes a lot.

If you feel the steering wheel vibrating when applying brakes even gently, it is likely warped rotors. In these cases, I replace both rotors and pads. You could turn the rotors instead of replacing the rotors but I find it much faster to replace the rotors - this also provides better peace of mind that the rotors are not too thin after turning that it would warp easily again in the future.

hayneldan

FYI In the latest issue of Motor Trend the long term test of the Odyssey revealed poor radio reception was cured by changing out the antenna cable that goes from the rear window antenna to the radio.

marine2

It may be that the brake pads are worn very low and the wear indicator is making these noises. If true, then it is a simple job of replacing the pads. Usually happens with higher mileage after 40K or if one rides the brakes a lot.

Unless she constantly rides the brakes, I can't believe it would be brake pads. Not on a new van with only 7,500 miles on it. But some do ride their brakes, using it as a foot rest.

rsht

Per the 2005 Odyssey Owner's Manual, Honda recommends following the regular oil/filter change interval from the beginning (approximately 7500 miles or 6 months or your odometer-oil life condition in %). Its my opinion, during the first 500-1000 miles of the vehicle is the critical break-in period, during this time avoid hard accelerations/stops, and keep engine rev in various of RPM range (another words, avoid using the Cruise Control).

During the first 200 miles, it easy on your brakes, avoid sudden and/or hard stops.

nwng

yea, my am reception is pretty sucky, I get static even going under a bridge. fm is fine though

serkis

Could you please be a little more specific so I can discuss this more intelligently with the dealer? If you a web link or could place a direct quote, that would be great. Thanks in advance...

rsblaski

What a coincidence!
Today, I had to hit the brakes pretty hard and noticed the same type of noise.
I have about 5500 miles on the '05 Ody Touring w/N&R. Doesn't worry me as I just had an oil/filter change two weeks ago and the check sheet stated I had 90%+ brake pads left.
No other symptoms and normal braking is fine.

(Why does symptoms look like it's spelled wrong?) :confuse:

If your noise is persistent, you might check and see if you have dirt or stones caught between the pads and rotors.

Good luck,
Rick

hayneldan

Motor Trend July 2005 issue page 170. Not on the Motortrend.com site yet

faxpaw

At 6 months I'm very pleased with my 05 EXL-NAV&RES. Gas mileage not as good as my 2000 Odyssey, but acceptable at 25 mpg on the interstate and 19 in town. From stop light to stoplight I think the 2000 is quicker, but the 05 is heavier, with a better ride and less wind/road noise than the 2000. Didn't really want the NAV, but wife insisted and I'm glad she did as we love this feature. Trying XM radio for one year and using it more than we thought we would. The AM/FM radio reception seems about the same as the 2000. No grand kids yet, so RES hasn't been used much. Rear hatch is hard to shut unless a door or window is open. I'm ok with that as airtight is fine with me. The 05 doesn't start as easy as the 2000. From day one I noticed that the power steering pump was noisy compared to the 2000. Finally had the ps pump replaced several weeks ago and the new pump is very quiet. I'll close with a question to other owners: Sometimes after starting the engine (cold start) and putting the van in gear I notice that the transmission takes a second to engage almost as if the pump pressure is too low. Has anyone else experienced this?

drigo

I was just wondering why do I avoid using the CRUISE CONTROL during the break in period of the new Odyssey :confuse: . I understand that the warning of avoiding HARD ACCELERATIONS/STOPS during the break in period but the cruise control I dont know.

Can you info. me or elaborate more on it.

Thank you

New Odyssey owner :confuse:

drigo

I am just curious about the security system of 05 Odyssey EX/L and touring models.. I own a Odyssey EXL with NAV and RES and it said on the checklist when I took the van home it has a security system. :confuse:

When they say security system, is it a car alarm or just the (theft deterrent) car immobilizer and is it the same as the aftermarket security system that alarms when someone tries to tamper with your vehicle. :confuse:

Or do I have to install a different car security system like VIPER ,Bulldog etc..

dave594

During break-in period you want to avoid long periods of constant RPM. You need to vary your RPMs so it's best not to set your cruise control.

macakava

If you hit the brakes hard, you are likely to trigger the pulsing and noisy feel in the brake pedal.

is this what your feeling?

ivan_99

This is true, but I have yet to hear of anybody having engine problems due to incorrect engine brake in.

phyldon

Unfortunately I have been unable to replicate the problem myself, though I have been in the passenger seat when my wife was able to make it happen. I drove it later and got the ABS to initiate, with the pulsing feeling in the pedal, but I didn't get the same grinding/crunching noise!?!? That is why this is so perplexing. We're dropping it off at the dealer to see what they think, but unless they drive with my wife and her braking manner I don't know if they will find anything. I'll let you know what the dealer says. Thanks for the discussions.

dsrtrat2

Play the odds in your favor by following engine break in procedures at least somewhat. Most engine problems probably can not be traced directly to break in procedures. Just play the odds.

jchan2

My 2002 Odyssey EX has a security system from the factory, and it is an immobilizer and an alarm.

It'll alarm when someone unlocks the door without the key or keyfob and tries to open the door.

phyldon

I got a call from my dealer who said that this is a problem that they have seen before once at their particular dealership and the tech called Honda technical service hotline and logged the problem. Basically they cannot find anything visibly or physically wrong with the brakes and it is now in the hands of Honda engineers to figure out what it is. Maybe brake pad material? Something else? They don't know yet and this particular problem so far is not that widespread so it cannot qualify for a recall. However, I would urge all of the readers of this that if you have this problem, even if minor, that you have it checked and logged by Honda so that they will figure out how to fix it. I don't think that it is an immediate issue where users should stop driving their '05 Odysseys, but I spent the extra money on an Odyssey expecting top-notch safety for my family. And confidence in the braking ability of this vehicle is VERY important. Again, if anyone has had anything like this problem, please take it in to Honda and get it logged so that they will figure out what the problem is. For those not familiar with this thread, I get grinding/cruching in the front brakes when braking hard, but not initiating the ABS system. Thanks.

jrgarbo

The indicator light is showing that there is a problem with my airbags (not the passenger side indicator, but the airbag indicator). I will be taking to dealer, but wondering--anyone else have this problem? FYI '05 EXL with 7500 miles.

jjtrindc

Have tracked an extensive conservation on this topic elsewhere, though Honda has not come up with any solution. Some interesting commonalities have arisen including people who bought the EX-L and above in the fall/winter of '04; folks who bought their Van on the West Coast; people who have approximately 4K or 6K on their van. There are some exceptions. So far resurfacing of the rotors does not fix the problem. One latest round of thought is the quality of the pads that Honda used or is using and their are currently no aftermarket manufacturers of other pads. Continue to call Honda corporate and and have your problem logged. Believe me, others are doing it. It may only be isolated problem, but if not, then Honda needs to know.

phyldon

I'm glad to see that it does not seem to be an isolated incident as my dealer sort-of inferred. In regards to the commonalities, I did buy mine in that timeframe and had ~6K mileage when the problem first surfaced. Only difference might be that I purchased mine in the northeast (PA). I would be interested how they are investigating this, and what common factors exist for those who have it. I would like to think that they will be responsible and resolve the issue. Thanks for the reply.

aaykay

My 2005 EXL-NAV/Res (2 months old) has this grinding/crunching sound when applying the brakes hard, like when braking within a parking lot when a speed breaker is suddenly detected. Glad to know that mine is not an isolated case. I had not mentioned this to the dealer, since I thought it must be due to the size/weight of the vehicle.

I also had a section of paint peel off from the front bumper, during a carwash. The dealer is having the front bumper cover repainted under warranty.

Claires

Folks, this Forum is for discussing the features, attributes, etc. of the 2005+ Odyssey. The best place to post about problems with your Odysseys is in the Honda Odyssey Owners: Problems & Solutions Forum, where you may run into other owners who've already had and solved the same problems you're experiencing.

attilauy

I just bought an ODY EX, still on break in period with 450miles. Tried freeway drive on several occasions, the pick up was good, easy to merge with traffic on freeway entrance. Pretty good 2k rpm on 70 mph freeway drive with 4 passengers. Brakes on stops are quick, smooth and not too long braking distance. So far, completely satisfied with the performance of this huge minivan. My only hope is that it will keep up with the good reputation and reliability of Odys as I have read on the web and magazines. I hope I will not be stranded on long drives to Ozarks, Rockies nor in the Appalachians. Been there, enjoyed the trips using sport sedans...no problems at all during the whole vacations, hoping to go back using the ODY.

Bottom line ( for now), after several years of driving maximas and BMWs, I agree with other posters when they say that ODY is the BMW of minivans. I am not sure if I will agree on the statement of others saying that Sienna is the Lexus of minivans.

macakava

Congrats!

Enjoy your Ody for the sporty driving character it has.

Have no fear of breakdowns! I had no stranded breakdown with with previous POC Fix Or Repair Daily Windstar I had.

drigo

RECENTLY i POSTED A QUERY ABOUT OdY'S SECURITY SYSTEM... i GOT A 2005 EXL W/ NAV & RES.. FOR THIS TRIM LEVEL ON ODYSSEY IT SAYS THE SECURITY SYSTEM IS STANDARD...

NOW WHEN YOU SAY SECURITY SYSTEM, IS IT LIKE AN AFTERMARKET CAR ALARM? COZ IT SAID THE ODY EAQUIPPED WITH SECURITY SYSYTEM DOES THE FOLLOWING..

a.HORN SOUNDS WHEN A DOOR IS NOT CLOSED PROPERLY
b.AUTOMATICALLY LOCKS AFTER ALL DOORS ARE CLOSED(30sec)
C.HONKS HORNS IF ANY DOORS OR WINDOWS HAVE BEEN TAMPERED.

DO I HAVE TO ACTIVATE SOMETHING JUST TO CHECK THESE FEATURES OUT IF I HAVE IT..LIKE DOORS LOCKS AUTOMATICALLY AFTER 30 SECONDS ETC..

I HAVE CHECKED THE MANUAL AND SEARCHED THE NET ABOUT THIS BUT I CAME TO NO RESULTS.

MAYBE YOU GUYS KNOW SOMETHING...

jchan2

I agree that the Odyssey is the BMW of minivans...
I also agree that the Sienna is the Lexus of minivans. All that faux wood and all those other features make it feel like a Lexus.

If they changed the badge and added a Mark Levinson audio system (instead of the JBL) they could market it as a Lexus and sell quite a few of them.

attilauy

Hello drigo,I know it is summer time and hot, but please don't shout. We can hear you but some are still listening to the "mark levinson" music from lexus sienna...heheheh. How are you my friend( kumusta p're)? Sorry I don't know the answer to your questions. Maybe we can ask for help from our techie friends here on the board.

vrm

You write:
"...I own a couple of accurate tire pressure gauges and check tire pressure frequently before driving the vehicle. Apparently NHTSA does not believe in personal accountability? "

I am glad that you own "accurate" tire pressure gauges and have the time to check
air pressure frequently. Unfortunately, for most people this chore gets dropped or forgotten in the day to day rush.

I also assume you own a helmet? In that case you should remove the air bags, sell them on ebay and drive your vehicle wearing your helmet! By doing this you would be setting a good example of "personal accountability". Why depend on NHTSA ?!

vrm

Your write:
"Where do you get the "greedy" part? TPMS are pretty new technology. do you expect Honda or anyone else to immediately jump on this and rush to install this on all models? "

Did you just come out of your cave or something?!
TPMS is NOT "new technology". This is not rocket science. The TPMS function is performed by a sensor just like the ABS or external temperature monitor.

TPMS costs ~$75 to install in a vehicle (NHTSA estimate). Any manufacturer which does not offer this feature in a $27,000 vehicle is putting profit above safety.

Without TPMS there is NO "safety for everyone".

drigo

My apologies to all the forum members about the capital letters .........no intention of making any statements just forgot how to un-capp's my keyboard.... :shades:

anyway regarding my querry.... I'm still without a clue... :mad: .....maybe if i break inn to the ODy, I'l know if the security system really works right.... :confuse:

rkaye

Same brake problem, left side only. The pad was replaced and th rotor was trued, but the problem recurred. The dealer has now told me the same, that it is a recognized problem without a current solution. Brakes seem to work OK in emergent stops, so far.

isellhondas

It took you a long time to respond to my post!

Sorry,I don't need every system of my car monitored for my safety. I'm perfectly capable of checking my own tires once in awhile.