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Although you ignored me when I made this suggestion over on the "problems and solutions" board, if you are that concerned with marshalling support for this issue and assisiting those with a similar problem, it doesn't do any good to have various threads and various (different) comments spread over at least three different boards. Not everybody has the time or inclination to read each board.
The test drive I suggested is help Odyssey owners detect whether or not they got a defected car. If they do, then report to Honda dealers, so that Honda would not ignore this problem. When I reported this to my dealer, they ignored my case and sent me home without doing any thing or without even admitting there is a problem. They want me to live with it!
Does anyone know a reasonably priced replacement
rim & tire for Michelin P235-710 R460A 104T in Odyssey
Touring?
Check out the discussion dedicated to PAX & run-flat tires for minivans....
I predict Ebay will be Touring owners' only hope....
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I was strugging with finding canadian dealer invoice price. unlike in the States, that can be easily found from kelly book.
does anybody happen to know that ? 2005 Odyssey EX-L?
I like the option packages better on the Toyota, although I never checked to see if you can actually get one the way you want it. I've bought six new Toyotas since 1992 and not a one could actually be purchased with the option combinations we wanted. Toyota will say they're available, but they won't build any that way. My wifes GX470 was a complete fiasco and we never did get it the way we wanted, even after placing an order and waiting six months.
How they look is completely subjective really. I too liked the idea of the power rear hatch at first, but I've seen a lot of problems on boths sides with this feature so I guess I don't miss it. I would have bought a Touring if I didn't have to give up a seating position.
I suppose if it was much of an issue, Honda would include them.
A quick search also shows they're available or standard on most every other minivan out there. It's even standard on the cheapest sienna model. But I suppose nobody really wants them, they're just throwing it on to annoy folks like they do with those seatbelts :P
And again, if you don't like them you just turn them off.
You are. Most people who live in metropolitan areas want this feature. It's a great safety option. The keyword being "option"! I like the fact that it's there on the Touring (and I do have it enabled) and I like the fact that it can be disabled. In my opinion this is the only way the autolocking feature should be offered - with the ability to turn it off.
If I'm wrong why don't my customers ever ask me about this?
I do know that what is a BIG deal to a few is if no importance to the masses.
Most probably assume it already has this feature on such an expensive van. Perhaps you could start pointing this out to those buying less than the touring model??? Then you would find out if it's a big deal about nothing or not. Let us know how it turned out.
I own 2 Honda and manually lock my doors as habit every time I get in the car. Especially when driving with my wife and 2 year old son.
I would be upset if I paid 30k+ for an Ody EX-L and auto locks are not standard. If you don't like auto locks they can easily be disabled. My 2 cents.
both are nice, I had a hard time deciding too. My hubby has an 03' toyota tundra that I am in LOVE with and if I could afford it, I'd get a sequioa!!! His seats are MORE comfortable than mine and I am a honda loyal, family's had them since 1986!!!
I love my oddy. I choose honda due to toyota's are just to much money. All are pkgs and the EX plain comes w/ almost as much as the sienna XLE.
I don't have a power liftgate, but look at what is MOST important like saftey features, and Honda will beat it everytime.
With the big changes to 05's you may be able to get a toyota cheaper. I looked on the net the other day and clicked on "hot on the lot" (on all toyota's websites) it was a 2005 artic pearl white (the color I wanted) XLE for 27,500 that is down a LOT they were I think about 32-33k. A touring is like 34k though . They are nice, but my gosh.
If you wait till 06's are out, honda does good special rates for memorial day and labor day too, you may get an 05' cheaper when the 06's are coming out, or if they have any 05's left in Sept???? Just a thought. The first year a new body style comes out you'll get killed on the price.
Look around, drive them both and see what fits you best. I think the XLE sienna only seats 7 too... The LE can seat 8.
Or like I said if you want touring oddy you can buy the 8th seat and have that center console taken out for the seat.
So I just went w/ my gutt. I got an EX with fog lights, leather wrap steering wheel, cloth, floor mats, for cost of $24,700. I got it in Feb of 2004. I am very happy. and got a good deal, I mean are a FEW features really worth 10k more? Give me a break...
I have an 04' but the dealer mentioned about the 8th seat to touring, when he showed off the 05's to me while I got my oil changed.
heidi
But I do agree. It shouldn't be that big of a deal to make these optional on any car with power locks I wouldn't think. Honda...are you reading this?
The Toyota XLE felt far cheaper in materials and execution than the Honda. I’m under the assumption that they have more “wiggle” room on the price because I can’t see these things selling for MSRP.
The Sienna felt on par with the GC.
The Odyssey, when compared to the Sienna, was a FAR better vehicle (in every category you can think of). My wife actually refused to drive in it because she said she didn’t want to drive something that reminded her of her 80’s Chevette.
BTW, we didn’t get the Odyssey either but it was much better than the Sienna.
Should the Odyssey have come with plastic panels? Are they even availiable?
I am considering about purchasing EX-L w/ or w/out RES, but VCM is my biggest concern before making this purchase. I've test driven few times, and noticed that different cars responded differently.
First time I test drove EX-L, I did notice little bit of vibration when VCM kicked in. Other day, did not notice anything. Of course since these are brand new vehicle, it will be very hard to notice anything at this point.
My concern is that if I drive this car beyond 100k (which I typically do with all my owned hondas - 285k and 175k), would vibration of this VCM engine worsen over time? Only time will tell, but I would like to get some inputs from others who are either considering or already put on significant miles on their new Ody.
From people in Auto industry and Mechanics have told me that it is never a good idea to purchase a vehicle in their first year of new design/technology...how true is this???
Throwing some topics to discuss...
We went for a 2005 Quest SE with all options but NAV.
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In that vain, I can say that my only (irrational?) objections to Nissan's Quest and to most of their products revolve around my distaste for the Nissan "hamburger" logo and their (to me) "Power Rangers" styling. Of course, others have excelled at excess styling binging as well (the Avalanche and the mindblowingly-ugly-to-the-bone Aztec spring nauseatingly to mind!). Subjective as subjective can get, I freely admit!
Anyone have any experience with this?
"hamburger" logo...never heard that.
I hate autolocks. Here, I said that.
That is a matter of opinion. I can only compare cloth trims (I will never buy leather seats again, after I could not even order cloth in my BMW - I would rather buy grey import from Europe next time). Cloth EX did look and feel better to me then LX/XLE cloth trims. Purely subjective, of course.
I like the option packages better on the Toyota
If you can find what you need (as you noted). There is some value to Honda packaging simplicity. (And aftermarket DVD and Nav are just as good and cheaper)
Anyone have any experience with this?
The folks in the Honda Odyssey Owners: Problems & Solutions Forum might. Try asking your question there too.
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I'm a vol. firefighter...locked or unlocked we've got the tools to get you out!
I hate autolocks. Here, I said that.
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I agree, I hate auto door locks too. Stupid GM cars have them. :mad:
Anyone ever try to break a car windoq?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates this "feature"!