Honda Odyssey 2005+

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  • ivan_99ivan_99 Member Posts: 1,681
    I may be incorrect, but I thought that locking your door did nothing other than make the handle inoperable…that the door integrity and it’s likely hood of dislodging during an accident has nothing to do with the lock position.

    I thought the main reason for locking your door when driving was to prevent car-jackers from jumping in at stop lights.

    ...or not.
  • comaddencomadden Member Posts: 3
    If you discover a place that sells the coolers for less than the fortune the dealer is asking, please FILL ME IN. Oh, yes, the dealer spec'd harness looks to cost about $150.00.

    Check www.cheapesthondaparts.com and search by Honda Factory part number. I found these:

    2005 ODYSSEY HITCH HARNESS - $110.26
    COOLER KIT ATF - $169.46
    COOLER COMP, P/S OIL - $92.50
    AIR DUCT - $43.66

    I just ordered the Hidden Hitch and will be ordering these soon. I delay because I want to check if third party ATF coolers would be better. Other posts have pointed me to etrailer.com and their solutions etrailer.com
  • emaneman Member Posts: 85
    Glad you had success with the Hidden Hitch. I am not so sure I would go through the trouble of replacing the galvanized bolts with SS bolts. Put some grease on the threads and forget it.

    I had a catalog, I can't remember the name of the mfg. but I believe it was Draw-tite. They offered all kinds of Honda wiring harnesses including for the Odyssey up to 2004 since that was the date of the catalog. They probably have a harness cheaper than Honda's.

    My harness is visible in the wheel jack storage compartment in the trunk (EXL). using ready made harness should make the wiring easier and maybe you can do all in the jack well. YOu need to also go to the right tail light.

    If you consider adding oil coolers etc. consider the potential load. For occasional mulch hauling I wouldn't bother. I would feel that going up to 1000 lbs I wouldn't bother with any of this added complexity.

    Over 1000lbs. you will have other considerations such as trailer brakes. I just had a brake controller installed with additional wiring and it was a pain in the butt to do so. Honda provides no help or guidance even though they recommend towing capacity up to 3500 lbs. Anyway, with an electric trailer brake you will need at least a 6 prong plug (you would use the wiring from the 4 prong plug and add two more from the front of the vehicle, battery + and brake controller and circuit breakers).

    Over 1850 lbs you would need a weight distributing hitch, at least according to the Honda manual. This is a sore point with me since the Advertisement clearly states 3500 # but only the fine print in the manual mentions the weight distrib. hitch.
  • tcmtcm Member Posts: 3
    Hi,

    I wanted to know a small information back from the experts. I can see a small scratch on the rear bumper of my new Ody 2005. I'm wondering if I can take the car to the dealer to fix this scratch as they claim that the Car is covered for bumper to bumper till 36000 Miles/3 Years. What is your opinion about it? will the dealer entertain it or he will show me the doors to go with Insurance?
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    You've got to be kidding. Warranties do not include scratches. You are most definitely taking "bumper to bumper" much too literally!

    Likely your insurance won't cover it either if you have any kind of deductible.

    Knicks and scratches are part of the price you pay for actually driving your pristine new vehicle.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    "Every other vehicle on the planet" ?

    No, not even close. Personally I find auto locking doors annoying and so do many others who just don't share your views. The doors are no more likely to open in a collision.

    If I'm in a wreck, I want people to be able to get me out!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Ah....you were kidding....right ?
  • dilbertzzzdilbertzzz Member Posts: 190
    Ah, tcm, I am so very sorry. But, you see, the bumper to bumper warranty covers those parts between the bumpers. Something on the surface of the bumper is, so very unfortunately, just outside the covered area. My heart goes out to you. If only the scratch were on the inside of the bumper.... :cry:
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    No, not even close. Personally I find auto locking doors annoying and so do many others who just don't share your views. The doors are no more likely to open in a collision.

    If I'm in a wreck, I want people to be able to get me out!


    Quoting the 2005 Odyssey ownrs manual:

    "Locking the doors reduces the chance of someone being thrown out of the vehicle during a crash, and it helps prevent passengers from accidently opening a door and falling out.

    Locking the doors also helps prevent an outsider from unexpectantly opening a door when you come to a stop"

    The only reason I read this is because I read the manual top/bottom dumbfounded that this "feature" was only on the touring.

    Windows usually bust during a crash of any severity.

    I have eight vehicles sitting around here and the '05 Odyessy and '63 Impala are the only two that don't have auto-locks. As far as i know, they can all be turned off if you so desire. I know my jetta can because i reprogrammed them to lock when put in gear, and unlock when the key is removed. They used to lock/unlock both with shifting in/out of park. The funny thing is, it wouldn't have cost a dime more to have included it with the lx/ex models.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Not everyone finds this feature to be desirable myself included.

    I miss my 1962 Impala SS but I guess I'm lucky I never got it in a wreck.

    I didn't lock the doors on it either.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    I agree with you on this matter sebring. It is much safer to have auto locking doors...especially with children. We have a 2004 Mazda MPV LX and it does not have the auto locking doors when put in gear.After having this on the vehicle we had before purchasing the MPV...we(I) often forget to lock the doors when starting out. It makes no sense at all not to have this feature on a minivan.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    Not everyone finds this feature to be desirable myself included.

    Which is why you (should) have the option of turning them off. Everybody's happy. I still think a dealer service shop should be able to figure out how to turn this on. I have a friend that's an engineer for Honda in Marysville, maybe he can rustle something up.

    I've figured out how to get the DVD to play up front....$40 in parts from radio shack. Very simple things that were left out of these vans. Next mod is to fix the lights staying on if someone manually turns on a light or leaves the back hatch partially open. Don't really want a dead battery because Honda couldn't include a $.10 relay on the light circuits.
  • canyon7407canyon7407 Member Posts: 6
    Bluetrane, just a comment on your AWD question. I felt that the front wheel drive with the traction control on my 2002 Ody EX did an adequate job in ice/snow. Not that I was doing any heavy off-road driving though. I just traded Apr 30th for 2005 EXL R&N so did not have that vehicle during the winter.

    Regards
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    Excellent posting...I really got a good laugh. ;)
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    You want the DVD to play on the navigation screen? THAT "very simple" feature was not included for safety reasons with which you are obviously unfamiliar.
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    Quite familiar with the safety considerations. Our other vehicle with nav/dvd can play up front if the vehicle is in park and brake is set. I sure as heck don't want to watch the grandkids' wiggles dvd's anyway, but it'd be nice to be able to select the menus and what not without getting in the backseat.
  • bluetranebluetrane Member Posts: 67
    Thanks, canyon, that helps. It has been 8 years or so since I have had a vehicle without AWD, and the lack of it on the Odyssey is my main sticking point. I may still go with the Freestyle, and will take a second look at the Sienna. I don't need to off-road, I just don't have the option of staying home in inclement weather.
  • dbh1dbh1 Member Posts: 3
    My wife really likes the Touring Edition, yet I hear so many negatives about the Pax Run Flat tires on this message board that I decided to call the local Honda dealers and ask them if I could buy the Touring without the Pax tires. They said that the suspension on the Touring was geared for the Pax tires, and that the waranty would be void if they put any other type of tires on it.

    They also said that they haven't heard of problems with the Pax Run Flat tires, and that all of the Hondas are going to move to Pax over the next few years. Does anyone know if that's true?

    Is there anyone out there who's had a positive experience with the Pax tires?

    Thanks.
  • dbh1dbh1 Member Posts: 3
    My wife really likes the Touring Edition, yet I hear so many negatives about the Pax Run Flat tires that I decided to call the local Honda dealers and ask them if I could buy the Touring without the Pax tires. They said that the suspension on the Touring was geared for the Pax tires, and that the waranty would be void if they put any other type of tires on it.

    They also said that they haven't heard of problems with the Pax Run Flat tires, and that all of the Hondas are going to move to Pax over the next few years. Does anyone know if that's true?

    Is there anyone out there who's had a positive experience with the Pax tires?

    Thanks.
  • dilbertzzzdilbertzzz Member Posts: 190
    You must be talking to my kids, repeating yourself like that! ;)

    Seriously, did you hit your refresh button on your browser trying to see if you got a response? That's what causes that repost, I think. You might want to go out to the topic list fist, and see from there if anyone has answered. Then, when you come back in here again, you will not see another copy of your post posted.

    It avoids that sense of deja vu again, again.

    It avoids that sense of deja vu again, again.

    ;)
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    There is a discussion dedicated to PAX and run-flats for minivans. Check it out.
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Glad to hear that is your only intended use. You may know different but from what I've read here and elsewhere (on a site I'm not allowed to mention) no one has yet accomplished the modification you are suggesting on an '05 Odyssey.
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    Buy a loaded EX-Lthr-NAV-RES and get everything important without the infamous PAX tires. :blush:
  • hogboyhogboy Member Posts: 84
    Of course the dealer is going to say they haven't heard of any problems.
    Their job is to do one thing: move product.
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    You may know different but from what I've read here and elsewhere (on a site I'm not allowed to mention) no one has yet accomplished the modification you are suggesting on an '05 Odyssey.

    Its been done. I'm waiting on a replacement OEM rocker switch for the dash (plugging in next to the VSA shut-off) and it will even look factory. The toggle sticking out of the dash looks a bit utilitarian ;)
  • neal_67neal_67 Member Posts: 2
    I also tried turning off the VSA and check for the "boink" sound.... it's still there.

    I was in San Francisco last week and checked a family members 05 Odyssey and they too had the same noise. I guess it's on all the Odyssey... we'll just have to live with it.
  • canyon7407canyon7407 Member Posts: 6
    I assume it would have to still self-check even if VSA was off. In the 2002 Ody EX the traction control (now included in VSA) was set to default off, and I would engage the switch if I wanted it on, say, in rain or snow. So everytime I started the vehicle, it was off, but it still made the sound brieflly. My Pontiac Grand Prix does the same thing with its traction control and abs test. And now I traded the '02 Ody for '05 EXL R&N and it does a similar thing. Dont know if this is the "boink" you describe, but I have certainly gotten use to the sound and a slight feel in the brake pedal, and welcome it as the car systems working properly.
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Member Posts: 503
    I think you have it backwards. Traction control default is set to on, pressing the TCS switch will disable the system.
  • txcanucktxcanuck Member Posts: 1
    Just got a a Day/Night Mirror w/ Compass. I didn't get any manual or instructions. And the dealer didn't calibrate it as it had "CAL" listed. I figured out that to calibrate it I should drive in a cicrle for a bit. However, I realized that it was showing the wrong direction. I found that it I held the button down it would ask me to select the the zone. I have no idea what zone I am in - there seems to be about 10 or so zones. The Odyssey manual doesn't say anything about it and so I have no idea what to set it to. Anyone help?
  • dave49dave49 Member Posts: 2
    Does anyone know if the floor height for the 2nd row changed from 2004 to 2005? If so, how much? Thanks.
  • oneconsumeroneconsumer Member Posts: 41
    It is becoming noticed that the 2005 Odyssey has a major engineering defect. The heated air from the engine gets into the air vent or air intake, resulting in 110 degree of hot air blown from the vent when air conditioner is turned off. This problem becomes more apparent when the car is stopped or in slow speed, for the hot air around the engine will stay around the vent pipe and air intake areas. To combat the hot air the AC has to work excessively at all time. This creates a serious fuel efficiency problem, especially with those vehicles that have automatic climate control. It is likely people reporting good fuel efficiency were driving in cold season or when AC is off. We will see more complaints in the hot season. Honda should issue a recall and fix the problem.
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Are your comments based on personal experience or what?

    I haven't notice anything of the sort on my Touring (which has automatic climate control that has always performed flawlessly). The best mileage I've gotten was while running with the air conditioning on in Florida.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    Are you Ralph Nader? How about a little more information on how you came to the conclusion that this affects all 2005 Odysseys. Thank you.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • oneconsumeroneconsumer Member Posts: 41
    Try drive your Odyssey for 45 minutes without air conditioning and then stop, without shutting down the engine, and turn the fan speed to high. If you got hot air from the vent, then you have the problem I mentioned. The service adviser from my dealer admited that the insulation seal under hood has a gap near the air intake areas right on the bottom of the windshield. The hot air from the engine will leak into the vent duct through that gap. But I think this is not the only place that hot air gets into the vent duct. Perhaps there is a defect in my car's climate control. Honda would have to investigate and find out the cause or causes.
  • oneconsumeroneconsumer Member Posts: 41
    Indeed most people would not notice the hot air coming in from the vent, for they get comfortable temperature from the automatic climate control. The hot air problem becomes apparent when the AC is turned off, car stopped (but engine not shut down), and fan in high speed. You may be able to get even better MPG, if the AC does not need to work excessively to combat the heated air in the vent duct.
  • khoakhoa Member Posts: 64
    AC works more efficiently if you turn on air recirculation. Do you get hot air if recirculation is on?
  • aaronwiaaronwi Member Posts: 18
    My manual has a picture of the compass zones. I don't have it in front of me now, but it was very self explanitory. Looks like a picture of the US with some swooping lines that look like time zones.

    It MAY have been in the stereo manual...can't remember now.
  • oneconsumeroneconsumer Member Posts: 41
    It happens that most of my passengers, my parents, my wife, and even myself, hate air conditioning. We just want fresh and nature air from outside. I encourage all 2005 Odyssey owners to test drive the way I mentioned (i.e., drive at least 45 minutes without AC, stop the car but not the engine, and turn fan speed to high) to see if that hot air defect affects all Odyssey or just some models or some vehicles. It also help Honda to solve the problem.
  • emaneman Member Posts: 85
    Is the gap in the insulation seal visible to the service person??? If so why can't it be sealed off, at least on a temporary basis? Duct tape or even plumbers putty could be rolled to be a suitable sealer?

    I have only now started to use the A/C and I can't say that it puts out a lot of cool air in an '05 EXL. If there is such a leak by (poor) design it would mean that the A/C needs to work harder.

    I and others have complained that in the winter the drivers side floor outlet blows minimal air that leaves one with cold feet despite a fan that sounds like it is going like a bat out of hell but actually blows little air to the feet. It makes me wonder if more cold air comes in to the system than what the designers intended.
  • oneconsumeroneconsumer Member Posts: 41
    The gaps are due to improper design (different from previous Odysseys). They are big gaps that have to be sealed with thick rubber. But as I said, this may not be the only place that heated air gets into the vent duct.
  • nwngnwng Member Posts: 663
    (i.e., drive at least 45 minutes without AC, stop the car but not the engine, and turn fan speed to high)

    If i may ask, under what circumstances would you be doing that?
  • dilbertzzzdilbertzzz Member Posts: 190
    (i.e., drive at least 45 minutes without AC, stop the car but not the engine, and turn fan speed to high)

    If i may ask, under what circumstances would you be doing that?


    I would think someone who does not like to use the air conditioning (preferring "fresh" air), would do "that" at almost every traffic light they must stop for, when dropping off/picking up kids to/from school, when waiting briefly for someone to come out of a store, and many other situations when the car must be stopped but it isn't efficient nor wise to turn the engine off.
  • etaeta Member Posts: 33
    > They also said that they haven't heard of problems with the Pax Run Flat tires, and that all of the Hondas are going to move to Pax over the next few years. Does anyone know if that's true?

    The major issue with a PAX-equipped vehicle that I see currently are:

    #1 The support infrastructure is still shaky -- we're still hearing stories of dealers who don't know how to handle PAX issues.

    #2 PAX is not available in Canada, presumably also in other places outside the US (Canadian Tourings do not come with PAX).

    #3 A couple of ppl had problems getting their PAX replaced because it had minor damage... I'd hate to be out $700 just because I dented the rim a bit...

    #4 Many dealers don't currently stock PAX tires so you could have to wait 1-2 days to get one if you get a flat...

    #5 Can't (currently) replace PAX with a winter tire.

    #6 What if your tires are 2+ years old and you need a new one? I wouldn't want to have one new PAX and 3 half-used tires -- you should really replace in pairs.

    Issues #1 - #4 would be addressed if PAX becomes more common with a better support network. Issue #5 will only go away if they come out with a PAX winter tire. I'm not sure about #6 -- it seems like they'd have to offer to replace the PAX in pairs if necessary...

    ETA
  • etaeta Member Posts: 33
    > Buy a loaded EX-Lthr-NAV-RES and get everything important without the infamous PAX tires.

    Or buy a Touring from Canada (no PAX on those)... :).

    ETA
  • dulnevdulnev Member Posts: 652
    I would think someone who does not like to use the air conditioning (preferring "fresh" air), would do "that" at almost every traffic light they must stop for, when dropping off/picking up kids to/from school, when waiting briefly for someone to come out of a store, and many other situations when the car must be stopped but it isn't efficient nor wise to turn the engine off.

    This makes no sense whatsoever! If they prefer "fresh" air, they'd have their windows open, not have ventilation turned on. The only reason to run ventilation and force AC to Off position is to try to save couple pennies worth of gas. Which is a fairly dumb thing to do, if you bought a $30,000-$40,000 vehicle.

    As far as the general matter, I've never owned a car that wouldn't heat up external air using Ventilation only. The air's going through the very hot engine compartment for Pete's sake! How can it not heat up??? I'm going to test this on my Ody, but I highly doubt the claim of heating up the air by 40 degrees.
  • dilbertzzzdilbertzzz Member Posts: 190
    I, and many if not most folks my age (51) or older, have a permanent hearing loss around middle C in the left ear. For me this is a constant low level ringing in that ear. That comes from driving around in non-air-conditioned vehicles with the window wide open. Some of it may have come from standing in front of those speakers while attempting to dance (poorly), but then that would have affected both ears!

    Maybe they aren't thinking of that, and they certainly don't agree with me (who has his air-conditioning or heat on and windows closed except for very short periods of time reaching out for something). But, they aren't dumb just because they'd rather not use the air-conditioning and don't want to open and close their windows every time they stop.

    Besides, a careful read will tell you that the temperature is not just warm, but downright hot! I have never had a car that would generally heat up the incoming "fresh" air above ambient air temperature when no heat was selected.

    Now maybe this is an oddity, or maybe most folks use the very desirable convenience of climate control and never notice, but it sure sounds like there is some problem with at least this one vehicle.

    And incidentally, most vehicles, and I'm sure the Odyssey is no exception, have their air intakes at the base of the windshield. This is done specifically to avoid bringing in air "through the very hot engine compartment for Pete's sake!." But another reason is that the air pressure at that point on the vehicle tends to be fairly high, allowing a really nice air flow with a minimum use of the blower. And we've now gotten so used to seeing those little slots there that many (ahem!) don't realize what they are (though I will admit that the Odyssey has gone to some pains to disguise the intakes under the overhanging rear edge of the hood). :)
  • denver5357denver5357 Member Posts: 319
    "It is becoming noticed that the 2005 Odyssey has a major engineering defect. The heated air from the engine gets into the air vent or air intake, resulting in 110 degree of hot air blown from the vent when air conditioner is turned off... To combat the hot air the AC has to work excessively at all time. This creates a serious fuel efficiency problem, especially with those vehicles that have automatic climate control."

    Wouldn't we have this situation in summer anyway? Air temps here can be in the 90s and the temp coming off asphalt roads is probably more than that. s a result, I would think the Honda AC system could handle it.
  • oneconsumeroneconsumer Member Posts: 41
    The hot air problem happens when outside temperature read 71 (in my case). I know Honda AC system can handle the hot air problem. But still it is a defect and waste of gas. We don't want to ignore that--also it is for Honda's benefit to have the problem solved.
  • oneconsumeroneconsumer Member Posts: 41
    Have you brought your car back to your dealer, and what did they say or do? My dealer ignored my case and sent me home without admitting there is a problem--or they knew it is a faulty design but WANT ME TO LIVE WITH IT. I hope more people can come out reporting similar problem we both have and make Honda know that this cannot be ignored.
    I encourage all those with the said problem report to Honda and file a complaint at the web site www.nhtsa.dot.gov or call 1-888-327-4236. This government department told me that they need more complaints to come in order to have a case for investigation. Before that happens, they would not notify Honda or even ask Honda to recall the affected.
  • oneconsumeroneconsumer Member Posts: 41
    The hot air problem happens not just when the car is stopped, but BECOMES MORE NOTICEABLE when when the car is stopped. The test drive I suggested is help Odyssey owners detect whether or not they got a defected car.
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