Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

gsemike

"I know exactly what the car is and worth so serious inquiries only"

I really hope that he has about $400 in mind

Another 'Camero' (sic)

Probaby not bad but let's take it easy on the prose

Another jewel from the General

210delray

It's pretty sad when someone can't even spell the name of his/her car properly!

Camero, Camary, what's the difference?

benjaminh

I think this is one of the less attractive cars that GM came up with. In storage since 1982. It might be saved, but why? I actually like the dash design...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Buick-Electra-No-Reserve-Storage-since-1982_- W0QQitemZ140166080513QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item140166080513

benjaminh

In nice shape. Andre-mobile?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/All-Original-RUST-FREE-Low-Mileage-California-Cru- iser_W0QQitemZ250173347760QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250173347760

qbrozen

wow. where to start on that 2nd "camero." Lessee... a "showcar condition" vehicle with a dented fender, vinyl pep boys steering wheel cover, and ... what's that? ... a Pontiac nose ... hmmmm... Then we go under the hood to take a look at that "powerful" 2.8 engine. Yes, he did say powerful indeed. So powerful that it might spin bald tires in the rain. Watch out! Not for the weak-hearted!

andre1969

I always hated that too, seeing a mis-spelled name in a sale ad for a car. There were three DeSotos I saw for sale at Carlisle this past weekend. Two of them had it mis-spelled as "DeSota".

I mean c'mon, it's spelled out in big, stylized letters on the hood and trunk of the car. If you're unsure of how to spell it, go look!

I could actually understand a casual observer mis-spelling something like that, but if you're selling it, you should know how to spell it!

I don't get "Camero", though. That name is popular enough that you'd think just about anybody could spell it properly.

andre1969

y'know it's funny, but whenever I see an old car with an under-sized engine, the seller always wants to hype up how economical the car is, as if that makes it more desireable somehow.

Honestly, I doubt if a 2.8 V-6 in a Camero is really going to be much more economical than the 5.0. And back in the old days, sometimes a V-8 would get slightly BETTER economy than a 6-cyl, simply because it didn't have to work as hard and they'd gear it taller.

andre1969

for the most part, I'm really not that crazy about big Buicks from that era. I thought the '65-66 Buicks were good looking. They got a little fat for '67, as did all GM big cars (oddly, the '67 Ford and Mopar big cars seemed to plump up that year too...funny how quickly the Big Three could ape each other back then). But I thought the '67 was still good looking. There's just something about the style of the '68 and then the '69 Buicks that just look "confused" up front, as if the stylists really didn't know what to do. Seems to me that it has a little Pontiac and Oldsmobile influence in that front-end, and to me, loses a bit of identity. I think the '70 looks cleaned up a bit, but with its split grille, still seems a bit Pontiac/Olds-ish.

Still, that particular '68 Electra looks like a nice car. That interior looks really comfy to me...the type of car where you could just float effortlessly down the highway for hours on end. Not everybody's cup of tea, but I could deal with it!

fintail

Something you don't see every day

210delray

Regarding "DeSota," I can still remember when these were plying the roads regularly, and that's how some people pronounced the name.

Also sometimes Oldsmobile was pronounced "Odesmobile," with a long "O." And of course, "Voltswagon."

oregonboy

Pretty cool Stude. They want a lot of money for it, considering how limited the interest must be in an "off-brand".

I always preferred the Stude model that had the circular "jet intake" grill.

james

Mr_Shiftright

Very rare car a '47 Studebaker convertible but mighty dull car, too. Studebaker collectors are a funny bunch....very loyal, efusive praise for their own cars, but get them to come off a buck....whoa!

This would be a perfect Midwest museum car.

fintail

Someone spent a lot

oregonboy

That ad lasted less than an hour. (Flagged for removal) :sick:

james

fintail

Doh...it was this very modified ca. 1995 Maxima - supercharged, lots of other performance stuff. Claimed something like 390hp.

I don't think it was a fake ad - the scenery was local and the price not too low.

oregonboy

Yeah, I think I have seen that ad. The car had a bunch of Stillen parts. :shades:

fintail

Yep that was the one

Come on, give me a break

oregonboy

Hahahahahah

For $55k you can buy a 2008 Corvette convetible. Let me think 1991 TA... 2008 Vette, old TA... new Vette, geez, I can't decide! :confuse:

On second thought, it's probably just a typo. Should be $5500.

qbrozen

yeah, MUST be a typo.

maybe he meant 55000 built and the price is $555.

andre1969

I think it's interesting how those pics have a vintage look to them, almost like they were taken in the 70's! Sort of has that washed-out un-restored 60's/70's film stock look to it.

gsemike

Besides the fact that Dwight from the Office drives one, nobody gives a crap avout those Trans Ams, they're not appreciating and aren't likely to ever appreciate

fintail

Not a project...but it doesn't seen right for the Bentley dealer to be putting ads on Craigslist

Same here

fintail

I wonder if those pics are from when the car was new. With the 70s van and ca. 1970 Caddy in the background, and the clothes which could be period...and the car appears to be wearing dealer plates.

fintail

No keys and no title...sounds great!

jlflemmons

If this is a dealer, I wonder why the phone number comes up as unlisted???

fintail

Maybe a cell?

I just recognize the background (and the license plate frame)

fintail

Ford's first HT

fintail

"im not sure if you can get this car registered in washington" = "not able to be registered due to an overcontrolling DOT

This doesn't look bad at all

british_rover

Man I was all excited about that 16,000 dollar price tag on the Skyline till I remembered how weak the dollar is now.

I agree the C36 looks good.

texases

Nice looking C36, but what's a good price? $13.5k seems a little high.

fintail

$16K CDN is around $16368 US - before exchange fees. Very funny...for Canadians, British, and Europeans anyway.

The C36 doesn't book for anything more really...but try to find one. An undervalued car no doubt.

british_rover

It probably is a little high but they only made a few hundred so very few are for sale at anyone time.

I just wish it wasn't silver. All of them are silver and I hate silver cars.

texases

Yes, I only found 2 on Ebay, one for sale and one sold (higher miles, about $9k I think). I guess the only equivalent might be the M3, but there are lots of them, easy to get, prices are lower.

oregonboy

some amazing finds:

sweet sedan w/"RARE 6-spd manual"

"RARE factory turbocharged Buick 3.8 V6 option". I didn't even know they made these. Does anybody care?

"The kit is RARE" - I have to wonder how much weight it adds???

"C43 AMG...THIS IS A RARE CAR" - It looks nice, but I know little about Mercs, and I never learned how to drive an automatic

"RARE family and sport wagon" - Doesn't give the year or "low" miles. I like wagons and Audis, but I don't know if I would be brave enough to buy one!

"disc brakes(RARE 4 piston style)"- a good project?

"RARE Landau top" - Pimp Me!!!

"70mpg RARE" - Now THIS IS rare... and too cool... and you couldn't GIVE it to me.

Well guys, that's it for today. I'm going to be taking off for about a week for cataract surgery. No big deal, but I won't have internet access where I'll be staying. :lemon:

See ya on the flipside - james

urnews

There's no way I would ride 70 mph in that Subie, if it were running. Good luck on your surgery, James.

fintail

Hmmm...I know that C43...

Subie is neat, but claims Idaho title, yet I think those are Minnesota plates?

I suspect more people would care about a Monte Carlo Diesel than a Monte Carlo Turbo.

british_rover

Is that your old C43?

fintail

Indeed it is. I don't know about this "one owner" story - I had the car for about 18 months (I was the second owner). It then sold to a guy who did not like the maintenance costs (he ended up taking it to the same shop where I have my car serviced, and they told me about it), and here it is.

qbrozen

whaddya think?

fintail

I think I remember andre talking about having one of these once

fintail

If it is very legit and has no age or maintenance related needs (I am sure there's a risk with buying a low mileage car that old in NYC metro area), it's worth it - those are sturdy cars if cared for.

gsemike

Central NJ can be pretty rural. Unless it saw NYC often for some reason, it would be pretty much like buying it from anywhere other than that those from NJ are a heavy footed people

qbrozen

yes, yes, many of us are. :b

qbrozen

i emailed the seller. so we'll see what the story is. my gut tells me it is a typo and really has 159k. Of course, then it would be overpriced.

I showed it to my wife and she said "eh, what's another car in the driveway?" She thinks we should consider it and let it sit for 9 months or so until her lease is up.

However, I then explained that the gas mileage is no better than her 4600-lb SUV (which surprises us both). She isn't too keen on that idea.

texases

However, I then explained that the gas mileage is no better than her 4600-lb SUV (which surprises us both). She isn't too keen on that idea.

Really? I thought these got decent mpg...it's the gas one, right?

qbrozen

Yup. According to Edmunds specs for the 1990 model (which I presume is the same), it gets 17/20 out of its mighty 177-hp I6. And the car only weighs ~3300 lbs!

are their specs possibly incorrect?

andre1969

yep, I had one of those Newports, a '67 with that same roofline. Mine was pretty ratted out, though. It belonged to the grandmother of a friend of mine, and when she passed away, she left quite a mess. Her house was in a shambles, and the car sitting in her driveway just added to it. The family just wanted the car gone, so they could start rehabbing the house. So they gave it to me.

I remember someone had stolen half of the sparkplug wires from under the hood while the car sat in her driveway, and the battery was dead. But with new wires, and a new battery, it fired right up and actually ran pretty well. The body was pretty ratty, though. It had rust, but not in the usual places along the lower parts of the car. This sucker had it coming out along the seam at the lower part of the C-pillar, along the trim, and blossoming in the middle of the door panels and other sheetmetal. the interior was a fabric/vinyl mix, and it was pretty far gone, too, as were most of the rubber seals. Amazingly, that car was watertight, and didn't show any signs of leakage when it rained. The passenger-side door was stuck shut. I used to let my friends hop in and out of that car "Dukes of Hazzard" style...only one of my cars that I'd allow it on, although for some reason, when I used to drive my '68 Dart, a couple of them tried it, until I yelled at them. :mad:

I think I had that car about 6 or 7 months. I got rid of it soon after I bought my 2000 Intrepid. I had already owed my uncle some money from a few years back, and he lent me the down payment for the Trep, so at that point I decided to make a concerted effort to pay him back. I was already thinking about selling that Newport, when it made the decision for me...its brakes went out one day.

Usually I miss my cars when I get rid of them, but for some reason that '67 Newport never really endeared itself to me.

qbrozen

seller claims the 59k miles are accurate and the car has never been in an accident. He says it was a 2nd car, which is why the miles are so low. It is quite a drive if we want to go see it. About 90 minutes from me.

hey fin, what is the room in one of these like? I mean, how wide is the backseat? what modern car would it compare with?

reason i'm asking is because the wife says, if we get something without a 3rd row for her next vehicle, it has to be wide enough to fit a child seat and 2 adults in the back. Now, we had that 190E for a short time, and that was obviously pretty small. How does the 300 compare?

texases

According to specs, the '88 300 had 55.4" rear hip room, the '88 190 had 51.1", and a new CTS (for example) has 54.1". The 300 has about 3" less leg room than the CTS but 3" more than the 190, so it seems to be typical mid size car room.

qbrozen

thanks for the comparisons to the newer cars. that helps. I did notice the 4" more hip room, which could go a long way. The legroom still seems a bit tight, though, since the 190 had almost none behind me if I was driving.

wifey is intrigued. she says "it would make a good backup car." Now, is she an enabler or what? We already have 3 backup cars! And this would really really round out the collection. I mean, a 2-seat convertible, 4-seat convertible, sedan, SUV, pickup, and a wagon? yikes! As if our families didn't make fun of me enough already.