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The Defender was burned to a crisp inside as well. All melted...the dash looked like a dripping ice cream cone.
Can't you get any other '93 Land Rover for about $4K?
$43,000 for this thing? Only redeaming feature is it is a stick shift!
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I'm sure Shifty will say it's overpriced, but 9K doesn't seem like too much to me, if the engine work was done correctly, and all the other associated stuff (pumps/belts/clutch) were done when it was apart. If the work was done right, it should be good for a long time.
I would be tempted by that car at that price (after a real good inspection by a Porsche expert) if it dropped into my lap locally.
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I bought a beautiful 1991 Maxima for my brother earlier this year. The PO had babied it from new, and had just put brand new Michelins on it, replaced all the belts and hoses including the timing belt, put in a new battery, starter, and alternator, flushed the transmission, replaced all the fuel injectors, replaced all 4 struts and strut mounts, and recharged the A/C. Seriously, it drives and looks like a new car. The only flaw I could find was that the in-dash clock only worked intermittently. So basically she had taken care of all the repair / maintenance items - meaning it's good to go for probably another 50k miles with nothing but gas and oil - and then she decided she needed a more reliable car!
-Jason
I don't know if the owners claims are true...I doubt it
Oh yeah what do you make of older Audis (say, late '80s/early '90s)? My friend wants to get one as a project and to beat on for the winter.
Used Audis? Yes to beating on one for the winter, but as a project, bad bad idea 9and expensive too!)
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Remember, all front-engine Porsches are just used cars. The older they are, the LESS they are worth----not like collectible cars which is the other way 'round ----older means more valuable----BUT----not always either!
Oddly enough, a 1965 Mustang is worth more than a 1915 Model T Ford---so age doesn't translate into greater value automatically, even if the car is "collectible".
AUDIS: Audis are dead in the water in terms of resale value but some of them are great buys and great cars. For instance, you can buy a 1992=1994 Audi S4 Turbo AWD sedan with 5 speed, fully optioned, for $6,500. That's a hell of a lot of car for the money.
But stickguy is right, they "can be" expensive to fix, depending. Power steering hose for an S4? Maybe $500 just for the part. Headlights both sides...try $1,000. But other items can be quite reasonable. So it depends. Again, you need to do your homework---can you imagine buying a nice used S4 that only needed a power steering hose and replacement of two broken headlights? Hey, you'd say---that's NOTHING!
The S4, though, is just a turbo version of the more plebeian 100 series, which I imagine would be cheaper to maintain and run than an S4. I tell potential Audi buyers to avoid 4000s and 5000s at all costs though, even the 1989-91 100/200 series (which was just a renamed 5000). I remember a reputable tech telling me once that 5000s just assaulted their owners in terms of maintenance costs.
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'77 Bonneville -- I wish people would post VIN numbers. The 5th number in that car's VIN gives you the engine size (at least the one the factory put in there). There's not a V-8 of that year though that would pull skin off rice pudding, sad to say. I mean, a 350 V-8 putting out 140 hp is pretty pathetic....however if you got the gas-sipping (sarcasm alert) 455 you could get 200 HP out of it.
Probably trade the 928 towards the S4. Why? Well, I won't get much for it on the trade, tht's true, but since the Porsche shop is giving me a good deal on the front end, I really can't get greedy on the back end. They can fix up the 928 a lot cheaper than I can. It needs water pump ($1,500 retail), tie rod, front brakes and rotors, AC servo motor, rear shocks, rear tires, cruise control module, ripped front seat repaired, cracked rear tail light lens, one busted exhaust header bolt, cracked windshield washer bottle. That's $3K-$4K retail, which is about what the car is worth. Soooooo....if I got $2K trade in I'd be happy man.
True, I "lost" money over a couple years (maybe $4,500 bucks total) but that's two years of use (22,000 miles) and fun.
This is about right on target to keep a somewhat exotic used car repair and happy....around .20 cents a mile. Obviously, I am now on the debit end of the stick with the car.
To fix it myself and sell it, I'd only get perhaps $,4000--$4,500. Let's say $6,000 and I hit the jackpot. So, why spend $4,000 to make $4,000??
I could sell it as a "project" to somebody, but really unless they were Porsche mechanics they'd end up a loser. I'd rather not do that to some starry-eyed young lad.
You win some, you lose some. I made out like a bandit on the Mercedes diesel, recuping almost 90% of all my repairs and maintenance at the time of sale. On this car, I only recouped about 30%. But I'll be getting an S4 which will at least never depreciate another dollar and is a really fast and fun car.
Listen to me, I haven't even DONE any of this yet!!
Yes Yes I should "get practical" and buy a toyota, but every time I try, I get behind the wheel of one, go ten blocks and start to get spasms and shortness of breath.
They tell us "You are not your car" and that's true, certainly, but driving is such a pleasure to me----it's the last refuge where I can say "no compromise"...well that and trying to stay single I guess :P
Where is the S4 currently located- is it at a dealer or private seller? I should note that I did drive a '93 about a year ago and it was one of the most fun drives I ever had in my life. I swear that car will run rings around my Volvo!
Yeah I think the S4 is pretty quick. If in good fettle, it should do 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds---which is actually on second faster than my Porsche 928 (I have the early 4.5 liter motor). It's a porky car, though, the S4, at almost 3,800 lbs. That's the AWD business doing that.
If you live near a ski area (I'm 3 hours out of Tahoe) you can always sell an AWD Audi for a decent price. They are fabulous snow cars, and will often easily go where the big SUV AWDs cannot go....the big trucks have road height but the Audis have fabulous traction and control--especially up steep grades.
80s pimp style with no horsepower. I think these cars actually look clean and sharp if they don't have the vinyl top and all the other tack-ons
But sure, for $1,200, you're right they are worth it.
Still though, I think the Gran Fury/Diplomat look better than the NYer...less ostentatious I guess. And I'd take a Toro or Riv in a heartbeat over the Eldorado. As strange as it sounds, while the early 80's may have been the dark ages for many cars, especially Cadillac, it was almost a bit of a golden era, relatively speaking, for Olds and Buick Their larger V-8 models were some of the most reliable cars of the era.
Do you like the Toro or Riv over the Eldo based on looks or based on mechanicals? I've never minded the Eldo, if it isn't pimped out. It has to have the stainless steel top and no pimpy grille or anything. Then again, I've always kind of like bustleback Sevilles, but without the carriage top and all that crap as well.
The Eldo also reminds me of DeNiro's role in "Casino", and what's-her-name who rams it with the Mercedes 107 SL. I have a strange association with Dodge Diplomats too...when I was in 1st grade or so, I lived in a brand new housing development, and when we moved in the streets were in, but most houses didn't yet have landscaping. Two doors down from us lived people who had a Diplomat, and they always parked it in the dirt yard. To this day I think of rednecks parking on the lawn when I think of Diplomats.
Well, it *looks* nice, but I bet it drives awful
Another reason I think I prefer the Riv and Toro is the interior. There's just something about Caddy interiors in general around that timeframe that just seemed tacky and overdone compared to an equivalent Olds or Buick.
Oh, and to further your Diplomat/redneck association, I have to confess that my '89 Gran Fury spent an awful lot of time parked on the lawn. Either over at my grandma's across the street or at my place! And I have a few vehicles scattered out in the yard right now.
No lawn parking.
No gravel driveways.
No parking in the street 2-6 a.m.
No parking in driveway without valid registration.
No...
You get the idea.
I'm gonna put four cinder blocks on the front lawn. Classic rectangular arrangement, to make a point :-)
-Mathias
http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/104577297.html
Somehow, I don't think he'll have a problem with the 'looking to sell this week' part (probably could have at twice the price with the right ad in the right place).
I really like these cars, and that is a good price IMO if it really is as clean as he says.
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In 1992, I had the choice between a car just like this one and a first generation RX-7. I bought the RX-7, and it was a load of oversteering, high revving fun until the engine blew right at a year after I bought it.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/104680400.html
Probably kinda fun to drive, when it runs. For the price, you could hardly go wrong.
Hell I'd buy it just to sell the parts off it at that price. The Quattro version of this car is worth good money but many parts will interchange, so you'd get Quattro people wanting bits and pieces.
I agree that you could probably chop it up and turn a profit, so you really don't have much to loose. Or, just drive it til it drops (it is winter beater time soon after all).
This is scary, I keep getting sucked into old, high mile Audis. Good thing none of them are very close to me!
Still, I would buy the GT if I saw it parked on a front lawn, assuming it didn't sound like a threshing machine when you started it up.
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I hope you have better luck with the S4 you are looking at. Did you go see it today?
These A4s are getting cheap.
http://www.audiworld.com/model/historical/92/s4.shtml
Pretty nice. - james
Arggghhh! I'm not sure what to buy. I HATE debt. An old S4 I can just write a check for.
I drove the Mitsubishi EVO RS and that sure was fun. That car would keep me amused I think, but I"m not sure Mitsubishis age all that well. Fab warranty though----5/60 bumper to bumper and 10/100K drivetrain warranty, $25,500 sellling price. Dealer is a friend so no hassles on warranty, service, etc.
I can even get the wingless version.
The RS is the "stripper" as you may recall.
ALSO-- still trying to pry that 1988 BMW M5 out of my friend's hands. It's an original, pretty good shape, just a little rust pocket at the front of the rocker behind the front wheels (typical, not hard to fix).
It's fun and fast (GREAT cruiser) but it's also black, which I don't much like in a car of that type.
That Audi is great for $300. So long as it runs OK right now, and no money is to be invested in it.
Let's not forget this is snow country -- Chicago, MI, same difference. I had a 1987 Audi 4000, nice car, in 1997. In the fall of that year, I had a new pressure accumulator put in the fuel system. Bad move; where they bent the fuel lines to get at it, they broke and leaked. So there I was, in November, lying in my driveway with a funnel, an empty 2l Coke bottle, and a car with an empty tank up on jack stands. Next to me a fire extinguisher to look good for the missus, and a hacksaw blade in my hand. I cut out the leak and bridged it with high-pressure rubber hose.
In '88, they went to powercoated fuel lines; it's nice to see someone paying attention.
But the point of all this rambling is that these older Audis are nice cars, but they work far better in their natural habitat than in the salt belt.
-Mathias