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'76 Olds --I'd say your use of the word "priced too high" is very kind...more like 2.5 Xs real value is more like it. He'll be buying that car a birthday cake very year at that selling price.
Think of pricing like a pyramid. At the very top or point is the highest price and you can see that there's very little room up there in the pyramid penthouse (few buyers can fit into it).
As you lower the price, there is more room for more buyers to jump in.
For this '76 Olds, the seller has set the price right at the tippy top of the pyramid and he's not going to get many people in there.
For a more popular old car, like a Hemi Cuda', even they have pyramids, but the tip of the price point is wayyyyy higher of course.
Look at it another way...1976 is when most collectors have already lost interest in the cars of this time period...the Dark Ages are from about 1974--1980 something.
You have to price cars in this time period realistically because supply currently outstrips demand.
This is true for a Pontiac a Porsche or a Ferrari.
"The value of a car has nothing to do with its "merit" or looks or anything else"
Aint that the truth. But hey, an imperfect market keeps many interesting and cool cars affordable (fintails for example), so maybe it's not a bad thing. You can have fun on a budget.
Even with most of the old cars I've had, I've actually missed most of the excesses of the '70's. I've had a '69 Bonneville on one end, and two '79 full-sized Chryslers on the other, but the only vehicle I've had from the era of peak excess is my '76 LeMans, and it's a mere dinghy compared to some of those loveboats from the era! The Bonneville could actually carry itself well, and the two Chryslers were beefed up, and so was the LeMans, so I've never really had the pleasure of experiencing one of those truly big boats in all of their wallowing glory.
Interesting that is has a console and bucket seats, I'd almost call it sporty if it weren't for the column shift, and, oh yeah, the dimensions.
They're actually pretty comfy inside, too. The seats are low to the floor, and there's not an abundance of headroom, but there's plenty of room to stretch my legs out. Basically, it's a car that you drive in a reclined position, something like piloting your livingroom around while relaxing in one of those old 70's overstuffed Lay-Z-Boy recliners. After riding in the back seat a couple times though, I learned first-hand how people used to get car-sick in those old boats.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/109412703.html
How many cars with a bad frame (actually, so bad that they would note it in the ad, vs. the usualy ignore it and figure the buyer won't notice) are worth taking on as a project? I just don't see any upside on that one.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
That actually is a pretty valuable car. NADA lists a "high retail" of around $47,000 (I spec'd it with a/c and the 303 hp 389 V-8). In comparison, they list a "high retail" of my '67 at around $17,000. I'm sure that both of those prices are a bit optimistic though, and if someone offered me $17K for mine it'd be sold in a heartbeat!
Still, I'm sure that this particular '61 is strictly a parts car.
then again, I can't understand why some people pay 100K+ for a '57 Chebbie, so what do I know?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Shame that one is rusty, those aren't bad looking cars, and a 61 convert has to be rare, I can't recall the last one I saw.
My old MB specialist is testing the waters with his Universal once again. I was pretty sure the car is actually a 65 model
Fin, that wagon is cool; were any sold in the U.S.?
Shifty will puke at the price...but I believe it is legit. There is a very small and very obsessive Universal cult out there, mainly based in the Netherlands.
You can ask an exceptional price on any car, but only for an exceptional (as in once in a blue moon) price.
You watch, next week you'll see five beater MB wagons with 10,000 dollars reserve on eBay if this one sells.
The Universal cult is pretty crazy, so I could see a real rusty beater bring a few grand at least.
You can buy a REALLY nice one for $6,500. Just turn the key and go and look good, too.
0 bids? Why am I not surprised. My faith in common sense is renewed.
A Universal parts car still might bring out the nuts
If you could buy it for maybe $2000 or so, you might be able to come out ok. But I bet he has neglected the service. Maybe it needs a timing belt and a clutch; then you are in over your head.
This 944 is "turnkey" but it leaks oil, has a little body damage, needs some interior work, etc. I mainly included this one so you can all read the creepy comment and reply at the bottom. People typically post questions and answers so that other prospective buyers might get some useful information. Not this person.
$15K for a salvage SC with needs. No.
The red 944 sounds like it might be OK if you get it at a good price. Of course, why is it in NC with Maryland plates?
The white one could go either way. You really need a very sharp 944 expert to look at it carefully. I bet the owner knows more about the extent of the problems then they are letting on.
The 911 looks real nice. WOnder why it was salvaged? That vintage is about my favorite 911 (I think it is what SHifty recommends too). But, for a car with a bad title and no records, it would have to be an awful cheap price (say, I'll give him 5K if it drive OK).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
That E320 is pretty beat considering most of those late series ones were pampered. I wouldn't pay a premium for it.
A fintail ambulance wouldn't be worth as much as Universal or even a Binz (the company that made most ambulances) wagon. Commercial vehicles are usually worth less. There were also fintail hearses...there's some freakshow value.
Where in the heck did the $30,000 go? Is it partly cash in the glovebox?
If you were a boy racer, would you rather have a 20 year old Golf or a 3 or 4 year old Vette for the same money? It's a tough call.
Carbon fiber,Polished heads and chrome tip. He may be better off selling piece by piece on Ebay, but who is gonna buy that wreck outright for 30k
I doubt a '54 Windsor would go for much, especially being a 4-door and having the flathead 6. If I were to take a wild guess, I'd say maybe $6-7,000 in like-new condition? And then there are only so many people lusting after something like that.
Clean one owner 280ZX. I kinda like this one.
Decent looking '63 Impala.
That ML is a gamble. It's a very early model, boy do they somehow seem spartan inside, and the bumpers are not flattering. They were indeed bug-filled, but I think they got sorted out over time. One sees a lot of them out there, so they must be at least OK.
Now if it were the '52 Windsor Wagon, you could get some serious money for it, like fintail is talking about, but for this old 4-door....not likely IMO. I've seen too many of this era/type fail to bring a single bid at auction.
Apparently he wants you to pay 10K or more for a 20-yr-old "modified" tin can. That's just too good of a deal to pass up!!!! :P
The person seems realistic with way too big of a pocketbook. $5500 seems reasonable for this car if he finds someone who wants it with all those changes.
It really doesn't look like much damage, but on these tiny cars with no rear overhang, even the slightest bump can disable them.