Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    edited August 2017
    explorerx4 said:

    What is this thing?
    https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/d/1975-jeep-gladiator/6286576491.html

    No milage listed so they must be low, low, low, right?

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    fintail said:

    More ways to go broke with style and speed:

    1993 me had something like this as a dream car - Looks to be sitting too low, which might not bode well. Looks nice otherwise, I think this might have been the last model year of MB sold here with a mechanical odometer. Rear badge is wrong, no such thing as a car badged "S600C".

    This yacht is just a town or two over from me Nice description

    Does that model have air ride? Looks blown. But as the seller says, that's nothing. Probably a $20 part.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited August 2017
    oldfarmer50 said:

    fintail said:

    More ways to go broke with style and speed:

    1993 me had something like this as a dream car - Looks to be sitting too low, which might not bode well. Looks nice otherwise, I think this might have been the last model year of MB sold here with a mechanical odometer. Rear badge is wrong, no such thing as a car badged "S600C".

    This yacht is just a town or two over from me Nice description

    Does that model have air ride? Looks blown. But as the seller says, that's nothing. Probably a $20 part.

    "Air ride has little leak. Mechanic said just a valve. $20 on parts geek. Simple fix. I would do it but don't have the time, so I'm taking $20 off the price" :p
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    fintail said:

    Nice stripes. Much more committed than all of the "Seahawks" vehicles I have seen around here.

    Odd car this morning: a full blown "Seahawks" Mustang, 2000 or so, with Seahawks logo fully covering the door and rear fender, another covering the rear window, along with a Seattle skyline along the front fender. Far from home, it would seem...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Next time you see it, roll down your window and shout "Why didn't we run the ball?!!" B)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,547
    Those don't have the full-on complex airmatic/ABC of 2000+ model year cars, but they do have rear hydro-pneumatic suspension. Assuming the owner didn't lower the car, there's probably a couple grand in repairs there.

    oldfarmer50 said:


    Does that model have air ride? Looks blown. But as the seller says, that's nothing. Probably a $20 part.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,547
    Maybe someone actually moved from Seattle instead of to Seattle - crazy. Probably a joy to talk to.
    texases said:


    Odd car this morning: a full blown "Seahawks" Mustang, 2000 or so, with Seahawks logo fully covering the door and rear fender, another covering the rear window, along with a Seattle skyline along the front fender. Far from home, it would seem...

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312

    Worth a look?



    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/1970-olds-toronado/6287751668.html

    Probably a $15k paint job, $20k interior and $10k engine work and you'd have a nice daily driver.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,593
    I like the gray F150 behind it. Minus the plow, and likely rust.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,730
    stickguy said:

    I like the gray F150 behind it. Minus the plow, and likely rust.

    I'd consider it. Plow and maladies included!
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,369
    Those 1st-gen Toros are pretty durable mechanically. That one needs a paint job and 1970 had the least attractive styling IMO. Money is too high unless it runs well and the interior is mint.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    ab348 said:

    Those 1st-gen Toros are pretty durable mechanically. That one needs a paint job and 1970 had the least attractive styling IMO. Money is too high unless it runs well and the interior is mint.

    I liked the older ones with the hidden headlights but at least you could get about 370hp from the stock 455 and I bet more if you were willing to dump enough fuel into it.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,369
    Well, the 1970 model year was the only one for the Toronado GT and it's 455 was rated at 400hp by the factory. No Olds 455 was ever rated higher.

    https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2013/09/02/driving-impressions-1970-oldsmobile-toronado-gt/

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    edited August 2017
    I must have been thinking about the previous year's engine. What was that a 400cid? I seem to remember guys stacking multiple carbs to get hp up there on those big blocks.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,369
    1966 and '67 Toros had a 425. The 455 replaced it in 1968. It was a 425 with a longer stroke. Lots of Olds hobbyists prefer the 425 as it revs better while the 455 had more torque.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Price if fair enough if it runs well.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    I want to run right out and get this one. The project will be to recover your money after the car turns out to be a fantasy.



    I copied the text as the ad will be flagged off pretty quick:

    polyurethane-bushings & Toyota Camry SE "07 w/throwshifter & 3.5LV6en - $1580

    2007 Toyota Camry
    condition: excellent
    cylinders: 6 cylinders
    drive: fwd
    fuel: gas
    title status: clean
    transmission: automatic

    Mod list is as follows -Hotchkiss sway bars -polyurethane bushings -stainless works full exhaust -driveshaft shop 1 piece driveshaft -BC dual adjustment coilovers -spec stage 2 exhaust (less than 1,000 miles) - rebuilt transmission with less than 1,000 miles -JHP Monaro front bumper -optima red top battery -B and M short throw shifter

    Must be a rare one with that short throw automatic.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,547
    I like it when scammers cobble together ads from completely unrelated and unlike cars.

    I like the Monaro bumper on that Camry too.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,839
    I'd like to know more about that 1 piece driveshaft.
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    explorerx4 said:

    I'd like to know more about that 1 piece driveshaft.

    I think they make em' out of unicorn horn. B)

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  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,425
    This is how you shoot a car

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1968-chevelle-ss-convertible/6285499398.html

    Throw in the snapple and you've got a deal
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    That's not a bad looking car. But he needs to get a better photographer...
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,369
    For that money, he needs to get it running too.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    At least he did the outside, inside and underside (sorta). He tried harder than a lot of CLers.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    I think the Snapple and other junk was on top of the car for a few years. Wife got tired of using it as a shelf and told him to sell it.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    Poster car for "I just don't care any more".



    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/03-bmw-325i-1300-obo/6296914366.html

    Early for salt and snow isn't it?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,593
    what a bomber. But if it was a stick, I would buy it anyway!

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,686
    I'm concerned that they swapped in a 4-cylinder engine!

    :stuck_out_tongue:

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,839
    I thought that Chevelle was some kind of Costco contest prize from the first picture.
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,839
    Just didn't figure on one little thing.
    https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/d/for-sale/6293060996.html
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,369
    Work done elsewhere I presume. :o

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,593
    simple fix. get a sawzall, and make it a convertible. Or cut the door frame out!

    I love that vintage Chevy PU. Put the suspension back down where it belongs, and I could live with it.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    edited September 2017
    explorerx4 said:

    Just didn't figure on one little thing.
    https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/d/for-sale/6293060996.html

    You could let the air out of the tires.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    You could hook up one of those inflation systems from the original military HumVee--you can inflate and deflate on the fly.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,593
    well, I am honestly at a loss for words on this one.

    https://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/d/ratrod-rat-rod-pick-up-hotrod/6272326251.html

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    I love it! That would be a hoot to drive around. You'd certainly get noticed.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited September 2017
    Very creative. Outstanding parade car! Actually made a '59 Cadillac look better.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,772
    Interesting. Can't call it a pickup anymore though.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,369
    Maybe it was a prototype for what became the Chevy SSR. I actually kind of like it.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,730
    ab348 said:

    Maybe it was a prototype for what became the Chevy SSR. I actually kind of like it.

    Can't help but like it. A lot of creativity in that. The headlights are painful - look like something off a modern Ford HD pickup. But, still, very creative. Overall, probably one of the better creations posted here!
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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,626
    xwesx said:

    ab348 said:

    Maybe it was a prototype for what became the Chevy SSR. I actually kind of like it.

    Can't help but like it. A lot of creativity in that. The headlights are painful - look like something off a modern Ford HD pickup. But, still, very creative. Overall, probably one of the better creations posted here!
    I would like to see some interior shots and under the trunk/pickup lid.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,547
    It had been 3 weeks, time for a little drive:



    As usual, fired right up and ran with no issues, the car being so easy to live with in that regard still amazes me. Got a couple compliments and noticed some turned heads. I even got to honk at an errant Highlander who violated a red light directly in front of me. Perfect weather - mostly sunny, not too hot, no more smoke.


  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Not real, but maybe some cheap fun?


  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,963
    texases said:

    "the rear wheels have some camber to them and gives the car an amazing look"
    What the ....?????, chapter 1 - First time I've seen a damaged suspension listed as a feature....

    " I installed a brand new alternator ... Needs an alternator. "
    What the ...????, chapter 2 - so there is something really wrong.

    "the convertible top stopped going down (was told it needs hydraulic fluid in the reservoir). "
    What the ...????, chapter 3 - a $10 fix, undone? I don't think so. These car were infamous for having tops that could not be make to work right. Co-worker had their 9-3 repurchased by the dealer (lemon law) because of it.

    I had to recently read a sale posting for a used Audi R8, that said "salvaged title, but fixed "perfectly" by the body shop." They used the word perfectly to describe the condition. I don't like people that over-use the words "mint" or "perfect" when describing condition. If you find a flaw it throws credibility out the window; so why not just say "very good" condition? Needless to say, they were asking about $20K over what Carmax apparently offered.

    I think Carmax had it right.
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,963
    fintail said:

    It had been 3 weeks, time for a little drive:



    As usual, fired right up and ran with no issues, the car being so easy to live with in that regard still amazes me. Got a couple compliments and noticed some turned heads. I even got to honk at an errant Highlander who violated a red light directly in front of me. Perfect weather - mostly sunny, not too hot, no more smoke.


    That Benz is in TOO good of condition; time for a X-Country trip in that car? Maybe TX or FL this time of year? :open_mouth:

    How many miles are on it?
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,839
    @Mr_Shifty,
    A VW bug conversion?
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah, but not too badly done. I mean it's not going to fool anybody but the most naive, but it falls into the "cheap and cheerful" category with a good fun per dollar ratio---presuming you don't hit anything.

    I saw one of these with a Chevy 350 advertised for sale but I have no idea what they might have done to the VW "frame" to accomidate that sort of power. Probably nothing. :p
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,312
    edited September 2017
    fintail said:

    It had been 3 weeks, time for a little drive:



    As usual, fired right up and ran with no issues, the car being so easy to live with in that regard still amazes me. Got a couple compliments and noticed some turned heads. I even got to honk at an errant Highlander who violated a red light directly in front of me. Perfect weather - mostly sunny, not too hot, no more smoke.


    How many miles on that old beauty? Ha ha I see andres3 doppelgängered me.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,547
    Funny story. I have a 13 year gap in records, so in that time it was driven about 10K miles, or 110K (5 digit odometer). Hard to tell - the car has a lot of patina, but build quality is still amazing, the body hardware is still sound, and everything opens and closes as it should - the rear doors, having been used less over the years, still close with the most satisfying click. With the mileage story, it is at either roughly 160K or 260K miles.
    oldfarmer50 said:



    How many miles on that old beauty?

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,547
    That's a scary thought - although it just might make it. I cringe with worry when thinking of taking it on long road trips, but I did a couple a few years ago, and the car didn't miss a beat

    Mileage is a funny story, I explained it in the post above. It's at either around 160K or 260k mile (even MBs didn't get 6 digit odometers until the 70s).


    andres3 said:



    That Benz is in TOO good of condition; time for a X-Country trip in that car? Maybe TX or FL this time of year? :open_mouth:

    How many miles are on it?

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