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Yeah, I guess going 140 MPH is not very safe, but there wasn't very much traffic on that Utah freeway. The only close call was when I almost hit a polygamist on the side of the road. But he's fine -- only a few minor bumps and bruises.
However, that speeding ticket was a doozy! The funny thing was . . . when I passed the officer, it took him almost 25 minutes to catch up to me and pull me over. They don't build police cars like they used to.
He really liked the Azera though and I told him that they should consider getting them for their police fleet. He smiled and patted me on the back and said he would suggest that to his chief. We laughed and chatted some more. So, the whole thing was really a very positive experience.
Is Utah that bad that you have to drive that fast trying to minimize your time there?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Anywho, the auto door lock is mentioned in the 'quick reference guide' and says the dealer can implement/program. I had to show it to the technician and then he knew what to look for. Now the doors auto lock when I step on the brake and take it out of park.
Item 2, 'LIMP HOME MODE' the dealer can program 'your' selected four number code. You do not have to use the code that came with the vehicle.
Did anyone figure out what those two oval rubber pieces that came in the license plate mounting kit are for?
In the state of Florida the cost of the warranty is $1118 plus tax.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
The cruise down into Utah would be sweet in a Hyundai Azera, with the quiet ride and smooth chassis providing a supple, enjoyable experience. Hyundai and Kia are both on a roll that is propelling them exceedingly upwards in quality and sales. Toyota and Honda superiority are fading more and more with each passing year.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Hey Ric. That's a cheapshot. A funny one at that but a cheapshot none the less. The Mormons banned polygamy over a hundred years ago, but I guess that stigma is forever stuck with them.
I guess they could change their laws depending on how it's culturally fitting.
There I go off tangent again. Anyhow, isn't the police force supposed to use domestic automobiles only for there fleets? Then would the Sonata, Camry, or Accord qualify as domestics made in America? (I am aware that your story is fictional)
Hey Ric. That's a cheapshot. A funny one at that but a cheapshot none the less. The Mormons banned polygamy over a hundred years ago, but I guess that stigma is forever stuck with them.
Well. . . since I AM a Mormon, I think I'm allowed to take cheapshots at my religion. LOL
And, yes, the story about the speeding is fictional. I write satire on the side and so I couldn't resist when that question was asked. My fingers were twitching to write a satirical blurb.
I'm not sure how fast the Azera will go, but I read 135 MPH? I think. I also read there is a "limiter" on it.
I DO NOT recommend finding out.
My few lines were meant to be somewhat humorous, but some people take things way too seriously.
A better example of a cheapshot is watching Big Love on HBO.
I drive its length once for cops, make a u-turn and get on it. My car; an 89 Mustang LX conv. 5.0, 5 speed. I found it wouldn't hit 140 in 5th so I did a second run but kept it in 4th. sure enough it past 140 (max on the speedo)and when I came down I was shaking. Never did it again - never want to, I'll take Azeras' word for it that it will do 140.
110% Satisfied Owner
Regards
Edgar
Unfortunately, the IIHS never tested the Azera. They just used old crash test numbers from Hyundai's tests last fall and converted them into their system. Probably took them about ten minutes to punch the numbers into the computer and convert them. They could've done that six months ago, if they wanted to.
The only independent tests done on the Azera were from the NHTSA which gave it a "4 star" rating on the front (out of 5 but it didn't include the awful "femur load" numbers). The numbers were the "worst in class".
Not that I don't trust Hyundai, but I give MUCH more credence to independent testers. I am VERY disappointed that the IIHS chose to use Hyundai's numbers rather than testing the car themselves.
The reason not to test: Car makers have done a good job on the front end so they didn't want to waste resources on that. Instead they want to focus on side and rear.
Hopefully some USEFUL information on side and rear impact testing will be forthcoming since there's only about five months left in the 2006 model year.
IIHS prelease about testing change
Here is some info about the vehicles that were included in this first round:
Nine vehicles for verification: The vehicles selected for the first round of test verification are all new or redesigned models for the 2006 or 2007 model year. These include a midsize moderately priced car (Toyota Camry), three large family cars (Buick Lucerne, Hyundai Azera, and Chevrolet Impala), one small SUV (Toyota RAV4), three midsize SUVs (Honda Pilot, Ford Explorer, and Mercedes M class), and a large pickup truck (Dodge Ram 1500).
The manufacturers supplied information on basic vehicle and test parameters, measurements of intrusion into the occupant compartment, injury data recorded on a dummy representing an average-size man in the driver seat, and video of the tests. Institute engineers reviewed this information and rated the vehicles based on the same evaluation parameters that always have been used. Eight of the nine vehicles earn good frontal crashworthiness ratings. The Impala is acceptable. A major benefit of this program is that the Institute can provide these and subsequent frontal ratings to consumers earlier in the model year
Their rationale seems to be that they have enough experience in this test and a high enough level of confidence in manufacturer's test figures/results that it makes more sense to just take the manufacturer's results and then they will crunch the numbers to get their ratings. This will allow faster test rating announcements.
Hope this will calm a few fears and moments of upset and anger.
Maybe the automakers have worked with the IIHS to improve the consistency of the test scores since then.
Let's hope so. One thing we need to keep in mind is that the IIHS is funded by insurance companies and I am sure the IIHS would have to have them on board before they decided to change their testing procedures in this way. I just can't see insurance companies accepting this unless they were certain they would not have to worry about increased payouts and lawsuits due to real-world accidents and injuries that were more severe than predicted by IIHS test results.
The problem with the Hyundai crash tests results reported to the IIHS is that is appears to contradict the NTHSA frontal crash tests. So, who do you trust? Which is more accurate?
Now there will not be a validation of either. Sad. We will never know what the "true" frontal crash results are. We will never know if the rumored "seat track" defect is real or not.
see my previous message that I posted
"Last night I purchased a Powder White with Leather Tan Interiors with ultimate package. Awesome car, it is much better than I was expecting. I am very, very happy with my purchase.
While I was checking cars and prices I contacted multiple dealers. Thanks to the fact that we there were no cars available where I live I was able to compare local prices vs other dealers up to 200 miles away.
The sticker price of the car that I bought was $30,195
The following are the worst and best quotes that I got on a regional and remote basis.
Regional Worst => $31,000
Regional Best => $28,400
Remote Worst = $27,686
Remote Best = $26,413 plus taxes. tag, title.
This price might not longer be available since I am sure that they did not make much money with my deal. However I expect them to give very aggressive quotes no matter what.
When the regional dealers started receiving new units some of them called me to offer them to me. When I told them the quote that I got he just said "tell me where for me to buy ours from that dealer". I plan to send him a photo of my car and a copy of the purchase price to show him that I was serious.
I live in the Palm Beach County Florida and I drove 166 miles each way to Orlando to buy my new car. The dealer name is Universal Hyundai and the way to get to them is via the following email salesuniversalhyundai.com.
So take your time to find the best price and shop around and you might save enough money to cover the taxes and other expenses like I did. "
Good Luck
Edgar
I see you have gone back to the regular photos on your header, so that must mean you are a little happier with your purchase now?
We also have the powder white pearl/beige/ultimate pkg.
It appears we have similar, good taste, in vehicles. :shades:
Ours was built and shipped from Korea especially for us, our name was on the factory MSRP sticker, that was cool. :shades:
We had the windows tinted, dark as legally possible, put on mud guards and may upgrade headlights although I'm satisfied with the stock lights.
So how did you hear about Universal and Dan? Was it from this forum? Do you have any planned changes in mind?
Tell me, how does one get pictures into messages and keep them small like you've done?
It's almost like you wanted the Azera to do poorly on the IIHS frontal test, to make things easier for you.
Wanted the Azera to do poorly? Why would I want the Azera to do poorly? That's an odd statement. No, I wanted the IIHS to actually TEST the car and, hopefully, show that the Azera is a safe vehicle.
Are you sure the exact same version of the seats were used by Hyundai in their crash tests done at their facility? It was rumored that the NTHSA tests showed a "seat tracking" problem on impact which caused an increase in head injury and femur load which gave the Azera the worst scores of ANY sedan manufactured in 2006.
Bottom line: I want to know if there's a general seat tracking problem or some other "defect" that can be corrected or if the NTHSA just happened to get "bad" car that is the exception and not the rule.
Because the IIHS didn't actually test the Azera, there is now no way of knowing that and no way of holding Hyundai responsible if there is a defect. That's the only thing I'm upset about. I just wanted the data verified.
I HOPE very much that the side and rear tests on the Azera will show it to be one of the safest cars on the road.
Due to the fact that there were no Azeras available where I live I started looking at other locations and "nearby" cities. Since I knew that Orlando is big on car sales (and other things) I sent several emails to different dealers there.
Universal Hyundai (Dan) was the one that gave me the best price by far. Because of this and that they had inventory I decided to get it from them and drove to Orlando one night to return back home at 2:15 AM with my new car :shades: .
It took me about 4 weeks to make the final decision and selection. In the process I met several good sale people from other dealers like the Palm Beach and another one from Orlando
You said that you installed the mud guards, do the look nice? I am hesitant to do it because the car is white :confuse: .
Regards
Edgar Marrero
Tell me, how does one get pictures into messages and keep them small like you've done?
The photos were taken by digital camera and digitized onto my computer. I imported them in Photoshop and resized them smaller and put them in a horizontal series. I saved the file as a gif. I then uploaded that file onto space on a website server that I pay a monthly fee to have space.
When I post a message here, I hit the "Img" button and then paste in the address to my image on the host server and then hit the "Img" button again for the ending tag. Then it will show up as a header on my posts.
If I wanted to, I could post a "link" to image on the host server instead by using the "Url" button as follows:
Link to Azera Image
Obviously, the key is to have software to manipulate (resize) the photos and to have a server to "host" your photos.
How could the IIHS possibly know that the seats used in the Azera tested by the NHTSA were exactly the same as those in the car tested by Hyundai for the IIHS? They would only know if they asked Hyundai. And they can ask regardless of whether the test is conducted by Hyundai or the IIHS.
The bottom line is, you and everyone else will never know if the poor NHTSA test was the result of a bad sample. The only thing that might happen is if Hyundai claims there was a problem with the test car and asks for a re-test, and the Azera does better on the re-test. But then we still won't know for certain if the first test was an anomaly, or if Hyundai got lucky the 2nd time, or if they changed some parts. There are few things that are certain in this world. Even death and taxes can be avoided, depending on your religious beliefs and the skill of your accountant.
The Azera is a 'large car' in 'compact car' clothing! Although it has a 'large car' interior, the weight and exterior dimensions are similar to compact cars like Acura CL, Acura TL, or Honda Accord! :surprise:
So, it really is the best of both! :shades: But don't expect it to go head to head with a Caprice! :sick:
So what it the weight range and exterior dimensions range of heavy cars? I think we already know how how the EPA defines large car, but what about NHTSA? How big is the interior of large cars according to NHTSA?
The Passat 3.6 L is nearly as heavy as the Azera. The VW is only 53 pounds lighter than the Azera Limited.
The chunky little 2006 VW Passat with only 95.2 cubic feet for passengers is nearly as heavy as the Azera, which has 106.9 cu.ft. for passengers.
Amazing!
http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/volkswagen_passatsedan_3.6l_2006/18181/style_spec- - - s.html;_ylt=Ah1rpAgmJFqSYUx0f9G9nYBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE2MWFla2V2BGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQ- - - Rwb3MDMgRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANERlg1XzMw?p=cap
I did pay much less than in any other local dealer.
Regards
Edgar