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Hyundai Azera 2006

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  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
    I don't think so.
    Do you even realize the price difference in Korea? Not to mention the difference
    in engine capacity? (The biggest engine used in Grandeur is V6 3.3L, same
    engine used in US sonatas.)

    They have BMW, Lexus, MB, Audi (and soon Infiniti) competing in the market
    for a segment that the 7-series competes in. They even sell Maserati. The market
    is obviously quite small, and there are a lot less distinction within the luxury
    sedan segments but that does not mean that people consider Azera as the same
    (or even similar) level as BMW7. Don't tell me Azera competes against BMW7,
    that's just ridiculous.
  • choe13choe13 Posts: 348
    please read carefully. I said the grandeur is like for the koreans that the 7 series is for the us. The actual 7 series is considered like a bentley in korea. BMW 7 series goes for almost 150, 000 grand.

    the grandeur is about 40-45 thousand dollars in korea(more expensive than will be sold in the us)
  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
    That's just ridiculous. Stop saying that.
    Even considering the difference in average incomes between two countries, no
    one in Korea has that kind of high regard for grandeur. Sure, it's more luxurious
    from Korean standards, but Grandeur does not have that kind of stature.
    You are wrong, and some people find your comments offensive. If I were a Korean
    living in Seoul, (and have certain interests in cars), I'd be offended.
    I don't know if you are Korean or not, but if you said something like that to a
    discussion board in a Korean website, I'm sure you'd meet some angry people.
  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
    I hate to turn the messageboard into pointless discussions (and yet I did it again).
    Shame on me.

    MSRP guesses? I find myself moving quickly up the laddar of vehicle tree. I was considering (and was very close to buying) Sonata for a while, but I am waiting
    and trying to save more money for something more expensive.

    I know XG350 starts around 25,000. I keep hearing Azera will start below 30,000,
    but how much below are we talking about? I'll be able to buy Azera for camry
    money right (so to speak, I guess)?
  • choe13choe13 Posts: 348
    If a cellphone in korea and japan that has 7 megapixels but worth like a 2 megapixels one down in the states for the same price because of technological advanacement differences, why is that an offense to the us or anyone??

    It is the same in korea. The average income in korea is 15 grand us a year. The grandeur is prob the most luxurious car out now with all sorts of equipments even though its a front drive.

    In the states the 7 series is prob one of the most luxurious sedans for a the common people. So how is my comment offensive?

    Someday i'm sure hyundai will come with a 7 series fighter, but up till now , the grandeur is the comparison.

    Please stop freaking out, and i'm done with this arguing with you
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,077
    Let's keep the focus on the Azera that will debut in the US, please. The argument about Hyundai competing with the 7-Series in Korea is off-topic in this discussion.

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  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
    I don't think it helps much by erasing the posts, but a host has that kinda power.
    For the record, I find the host's last remark as snappy and useless as any one of
    our comments.

    Anyhow...
    What are people's take on the name? Azera.
    I would have to say it's one of the worst name Hyundai could have come up with.
    Yes, I heard it means "era of A to Z" and all, but it sounds so weird and unfitting
    for a car that's supposed represent the finest of any automaker.
    I tend to think keeping the XG or even TG380 would have been a lot nicer. Or even
    Grandeur for that matter. (Maybe people will laugh at it given Hyundai's
    reputation?)

    The photos seem to have different front grille designs (In that some
    photos seem to indicate thicker cromes than others). Am I seeing things?
    If not, which one is real?
    I like thinner versions better (if there was such a thing).

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    See what I'm talking about? The top part is thick anyways, but the sides of
    the grille (and the bottom) looks much thinner in the auto show pic.
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    The top pic has a 3-slat grille, the bottom pic has a 4-slat grille, and some spy photos show a scallop-style vertical grille. Hyundai likes to use different grille inserts in different markets.
  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
    vertical grilles? Are you serious? I've never seen one.
    So, which one are we going to see in the US market?
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    The 4-slat grille is used on the KDM version, so I would guess the Azera will use the 3-slat which would also be a better match for the grille used on the Tuscon and Sonata.
  • tenpin288tenpin288 Posts: 804
    Here's a link to the Hyundai Azera web page. It shows pics of the US spec Azera.

    US Hyundai Azera

    The grille shown is the 3 bar one. :)
  • johnson5johnson5 Posts: 34
    According to some one in the Hyundai office

    The dealers will receive the preliminary informational, brochures in the month of September.

    Azera information may be updated in another 2 weeks a month. In their website
    Some information such as Trunk space, different packages. Etc will be added.
    EPA mileage results will be known in the month of September. They expect the gas mileage similar to Buick La Crosse 28 highway. The dealer will receive the cars in Late October.

    The difference in the length between sonata and Azera is going to be only 3 inches.The base model weighs 120 pounds(3600) more than Sonata LX.Fully equipped Azera will cost less than the Base ES330.
  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
    I know. That's where one of the picture comes from.
    The reason I'm confused is Hyundai has been showing 4-bar grille at auto shows
    in the states. Plus, all the recent photos seem to show 4-bar grilles. The website
    is pretty old, so I'm not so certain that it'll be a 3-bar grille.
    Obviously you can tell I prefer the 4-bar grille.
    I don't know... which do you guys like better?
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Three bars or four, the grille is still the weakest styling point of the car. Sides and interior look great.
  • choe13choe13 Posts: 348
    I'm not sure about the same either, but they apparently wanted to use the meaning of "Blue Sky" from the word Azure(french?)

    Hyundai said they wanted to make their cars more personal rather than attaching letter names which can make the car more imporsonal and cold>

    i don"t think grandeur would work because i get the sense that this car is one amazing high end luxury car which is not in the states as it is felt in korea

    though in the pictures the front looks a little odd the more i look at the car the more i like it
    the front nose is huge gives it a mmore authoritative look

    i think this car will at least tripple the previous xg sales at least
    i"ve read that this car has almost two point five the nvh levels compared to the sonata
    should be a very large quiet car lots of equipment some style at an amazing price
  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
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    I think I like the vertical much better. I hope they sell them in the states.
    I thought someone messed up with the photo at first. :blush:
  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
    I found a Korean website with lots of pics. Took me a while to figure out though.
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    Lots of pics. The last one could be the version we are getting... maybe...
  • dajakedajake Posts: 5
    I'm on vacation in Korea.I think this video clip will help you guyz a lot about AZERA but the editor is korean and narration is too. If your friends are Korean, ask them to translate it..Tnx.

    http://www.autojoins.com/content/auto_view.asp?news_section=auto_view&pageshow=2###
  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 2,355
    dajake:

    Great audio/video. Although I do not understand Korean the sights and sounds were communicated in a way that gave me a mild adrenaline rush. Can't wait to test drive this baby.
    As to the horizontal or vertical grille, I would prefer no grill at all remiscent of the first generation Q45.
  • choe13choe13 Posts: 348
    Those front lights are amazing. The detail gives it a very luxurious look.

    I think this car will pretty much detrhwon the lacrosse, and will give the Avalon a serious challenge.

    The interior is solid yet unspectacular and classy like the Avalon but i'll bet it is just as quiet, offers more equipment, looks better, its bigger, and will be at least a couple grand cheaper. could be a good battle for that small almost luxurious market
  • fdcapt2fdcapt2 Posts: 122
    Did anyone else pick up some things that I thought I picked up on during the video, like the keyless operation of the car. It looked to me that the keys were lying on the console, and not in the ignition. That would be a big plus. It's almost like the '05 Avalon. He was showing how you were able to open the car just by grabbing the handle, and not using the remote to unlock the car, another feature on the Avalon. Did anyone else see that there was an icon on the console for power folding mirrors. I read somewhere about that possibly being a feature on the car. I picked up on the turn signals in the mirrors, the power pedals, and what looked like a switch on the steering column for the power tilt/scope wheel, as well as power lumbar in the driver's seat. I really hope that most of these features will be carried over to our version. I remember someone asking about the reverse sensors, which you could see in the rear bumper. That would be another plus as far as my decision with this car. I wasn't very interested in the navi system, but it did seem like a nice setup. Did anyone else pick up on anything else that I might have missed? I realize that even though I didn't have a clue as to what was being said, if what I was able to pick up on in the video is somewhat accurate, this car will be a winner, at least for me...... :shades:
  • dajakedajake Posts: 5
    Ok.. First of all, My Brother currently owns NEW AZERA( Grandeur in Korea).
    The biggest difference between Korean Model and American model is NAVIGATION system. Korean AZERA's got navigation as an option but US Azera doesn't. You can watch News, Shopping, Skylife(satellite TV in your Vehicle, only in Korea), Internet, highway and city traffic jam information and etc.etc..I mean you can't really compare this against American Azera b/c I think Hyundai USA is not considering Navigation as an option. 1st Reason; It is true that Hyundai USA will make Premium Vehicle such as Lexus, Mercedes, BMW in couple years, Korean Hyundai already has a premium car It's called "EQUUS". For more information visit Hyundai Korea. I know u guyz can't read Korean but at least you can easily check out the vehicles on the left side of this website..Then there will is English..Sorry...The price of EQUUS ( VIP model) is about $73000.
    http://www.hyundai-motor.com/index.html

    PS.: about the horsepower in the video, that was 233hp but American people do love more horses so it will be 265hp..Thnx
  • johnson5johnson5 Posts: 34
    Hyundai USA website needs to be updated soon.

    There is no information about the trunk space (luggage space) in their website..

    . But according to some one I talked with this car will be available in late October.
    But for Azera which only weighs 200 pounds or about, lengthy by 3.5 inches, than the Sonata V6, probably 3 .3 liter 233 hp sonata V6 engine may be good enough and may save some gas..
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  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
    That's a pretty horrible reason for thinking Azera won't have a NAV.
    If you go to Sonata forum you'll find people begging for a nav. Americans want
    a nav as much as Koreans do (maybe more).
    There have been lots of speculation about nav system in sonatas, and it is a
    consensus that even Sonata will start having nav systems next year. (Some
    people even heard that it will be available this fall.)
    There will be both 233/265 engines for Azeras available in the states.
    It's the same with Sonata (or any other Hyundai model) that American versions
    get upgraded in engines.
    We all know about Equus. You just have to go back a couple pages to find our
    discussion on it.

    If you want to teach someone, bring something new (or at least well-informed),
    would you? :P
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    When will accurate pics of us model of Azera be available?
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    Does anyone know if Azera grille will be vertical or horizontal?
  • truethattruethat Posts: 123
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    The pics on the Hyundaiusa website has the same grille (but bad angles).
  • m3lsm3ls Posts: 7
    to buy a sedan car under 35K planned. Toyota Avalon, I think, is best so far as I searched. But I wonder whether Hyundai Azera is enough to wait. anybody knows when it comes out practically?
  • navigator89navigator89 Posts: 1,080
    I believe early October for the Azera's debut.

    Also consider the Lucerne and 300 if you're shopping for a sub $35K fullsize sedan.
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