Thanks! That's a horrible residual for 12k/36 month.
I think it's because this is a model year old now. VW has already adjusted the residuals to reflect that. It's dropped six points since January (the middle of the model year).
Would you provide insight into what typically happens to the incentives as model year matures? I'm trying to decide if I should wait to October for better lease terms on 2017 Passat. Thanks.
Would you provide insight into what typically happens to the incentives as model year matures? I'm trying to decide if I should wait to October for better lease terms on 2017 Passat. Thanks.
Current programs run through 10/02.
The money factor can't go down, because it's .00001. The residuals are low (43% for 36/15), but they typically never go up, as the year progresses. They could get worse, next month.
Don't have any historical data, but a friend of mine was shopping 2016 models at this time last year. He made a deal in late October, after incentives went up. If he had waited until November, he would have garnered another $500 in incentives. That doesn't mean that will happen this year, but it might. (or might not).
Ok - I think I get it. Incentives are $1950 right now per previous and may tick up $500 or so but residual could drop again to .42 so would really be wash? I have negotiated to $25,300 sales price before incentive on Se/ tech...
Ok - I think I get it. Incentives are $1950 right now per previous and may tick up $500 or so but residual could drop again to .42 so would really be wash? I have negotiated to $25,300 sales price before incentive on Se/ tech...
One more question - foes the $1950 in incentives and rebates include the $1000 Sell Down" event I just saw advertised that says customer gets $1000 check via mail 6-8 weeks after lease or purchase? Thank you!!!
One more question - foes the $1950 in incentives and rebates include the $1000 Sell Down" event I just saw advertised that says customer gets $1000 check via mail 6-8 weeks after lease or purchase? Thank you!!!
No... the $1950 is factory-to-dealer cash for leases only. There may be other incentives that stack with that.
Sorry so am bit confused- my dealer is saying the Sell Down event is included in the $1950 in incentives/rebates they are applying- so that there would not be an additional $1000 mailed via check 6-8 weeks later. Can you please confirm they can include this in applied rebate and total is not $2950?
Sorry so am bit confused- my dealer is saying the Sell Down event is included in the $1950 in incentives/rebates they are applying- so that there would not be an additional $1000 mailed via check 6-8 weeks later. Can you please confirm they can include this in applied rebate and total is not $2950?
.** Customers will receive $1,000 Cash Back via check (allow approx. 6-8 weeks for check delivery) from Volkswagen of America, Inc. when you purchase or lease a new, unused 2017 Passat through a participating dealer from September 6, 2017 to October 2, 2017. May not be combined with service loaner, VFI, or fleet programs. Businesses are not eligible.
From that, I believe the $1000 is available when you lease.
However, the $1950 is factory to dealer incentive money, and the dealer is not obligated to pass all of it along to the customer. Seems that your dealer is withholding $1000 of the lease cash, and using the sell down promotion to supplement it.
Ok- so you see it as negotiate selling price, then apply the $1950 in factory to dealer incentives and get payment based on that. Then as additional bonus VW mails check for $1k.
Ok- so you see it as negotiate selling price, then apply the $1950 in factory to dealer incentives and get payment based on that. Then as additional bonus VW mails check for $1k.
Sorry so am bit confused- my dealer is saying the Sell Down event is included in the $1950 in incentives/rebates they are applying- so that there would not be an additional $1000 mailed via check 6-8 weeks later. Can you please confirm they can include this in applied rebate and total is not $2950?
The $1950 is dealer cash. You won't see it anywhere in your deal, and the dealer won't disclose it. Since you know they are getting it, negotiate a low price to account for it.
I am curious why would manufacturer give more incentive to lease? What's the difference from manufacturer's perspective between customer lease and purchase?
I am curious why would manufacturer give more incentive to lease? What's the difference from manufacturer's perspective between customer lease and purchase?
Thanks.
With a lease, you only have the car for a limited amount of time. Then, you'll have to buy or lease another vehicle. The manufacturer will want you to stay with them, so they make it easy to start a new lease.
If I want to purchase a car instead of leasing, is it a valid strategy to sign a lease contract, thus taking advantage of better incentive, and then paid it off or refinance it? Do you see any potential issue?
If I want to purchase a car instead of leasing, is it a valid strategy to sign a lease contract, thus taking advantage of better incentive, and then paid it off or refinance it? Do you see any potential issue?
If you want to purchase the car, purchase the car. There are costs involved with leasing that you won't have if you buy.
I know they are just getting to the dealers now, any chance you have numbers on the 2018's? My lease is up in 2 months and I am getting calls already. Thx
I know they are just getting to the dealers now, any chance you have numbers on the 2018's? My lease is up in 2 months and I am getting calls already. Thx
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$2300 lease cash
There may be other incentives, but we don't have that information.
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Can you please share the numbers for a Passat R Line in New York City. 36 months/12k miles.
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Wow, cant believe how much the residual has dropped. Any idea when the 2018 models will come out?
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Assuming 36 months....
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The money factor can't go down, because it's .00001.
The residuals are low (43% for 36/15), but they typically never go up, as the year progresses. They could get worse, next month.
Don't have any historical data, but a friend of mine was shopping 2016 models at this time last year. He made a deal in late October, after incentives went up. If he had waited until November, he would have garnered another $500 in incentives.
That doesn't mean that will happen this year, but it might. (or might not).
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There may be other incentives that stack with that.
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However, a bit of research turned up this link:
http://www.vw.com/special-offers/type/OTHERS,APR/
In it, there is the following language:
.** Customers will receive $1,000 Cash Back via check (allow approx. 6-8 weeks for check delivery) from Volkswagen of America, Inc. when you purchase or lease a new, unused 2017 Passat through a participating dealer from September 6, 2017 to October 2, 2017. May not be combined with service loaner, VFI, or fleet programs. Businesses are not eligible.
From that, I believe the $1000 is available when you lease.
However, the $1950 is factory to dealer incentive money, and the dealer is not obligated to pass all of it along to the customer. Seems that your dealer is withholding $1000 of the lease cash, and using the sell down promotion to supplement it.
You may want to reach out to other dealers.
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$1950 lease cash on SE
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I am new to the forum. It is very useful.
I am curious why would manufacturer give more incentive to lease? What's the difference from manufacturer's perspective between customer lease and purchase?
Thanks.
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If I want to purchase a car instead of leasing, is it a valid strategy to sign a lease contract, thus taking advantage of better incentive, and then paid it off or refinance it? Do you see any potential issue?
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Looking for October MF, residual, and dealer/customer incentives for a 2017 Passat SE with Technology. 36 mo., 36k miles. Thanks!
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On the 2017 Passat SE with Technology, what would be the RV for 15k miles? 44%?
Also, is the MF/RV provided above the same across the country? Looking at SoCal specifically. Thanks!
Yes, the VW numbers are national.
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$2850 lease cash
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.00001 MF and 51% residual for S/SE
$2850/$2600 lease cash for S/SE
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dealer mentioned 46% residual, which is much lower than what I see in the forum. thanks!