Mystery car pix

Mr_Shiftright

It has a kind of a Lancia look to it.

andys120

That's a Lancia Aurelia B20 isn't it?

andys120

stickguy

1960ish triumph. I’ll probably guess wrong, but TR3? If not, a 2.

iluvmysephia1

1958 Triumph TR-3

Mr_Shiftright

Looks like a TR-2. No grille insert, no chrome hood hinges, painted fender beading is correct.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

Looks like a TR-2. No grille insert, no chrome hood hinges, painted fender beading is correct.

Yup, it's a Triumph TR-2, the open grille is a dead giveaway, twos are hard to tell from TR-3s if you can't see the nose, otherwise it's a cinch Exports of LHD examples began in 1954 and continued until the TR-2 was replaced the following year by the TR-3 so they're relatively rare.

andys120

Same era>

lostwrench1

1953 Buick Skylark.

andys120

lostwrench1 said:

1953 Buick Skylark.

Yep, one of my most favorite designs of the 50s and all done without two-tones, wraparound glass or exaggerated fins.

texases

Why no portholes? I thought they were standard.
edit - from what I can tell all '53 Buicks except the Skylark had them...wonder why?

Mr_Shiftright

andys120 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Looks like a TR-2. No grille insert, no chrome hood hinges, painted fender beading is correct.

Yup, it's a Triumph TR-2, the open grille is a dead giveaway, twos are hard to tell from TR-3s if you can't see the nose, otherwise it's a cinch Exports of LHD examples began in 1954 and continued until the TR-2 was replaced the following year by the TR-3 so they're relatively rare.

How weird is this? Just 10 minutes ago I get a phone call asking me to appraise a.....wait for it.....Triumph TR2!

I haven't even SEEN one of these in ten years. Darnest thing. I'll take pix for you all.

magnette

Apparently Palmer was influenced by the coach building on the Lancia Aurelia - earliest versions of that came along in about 1950 and the first of the new bodies - the Wolseley 4/44 - was announced in late 1952.

Was that Lancia an Aurelia coachbuilt by someone like Touring or is it a rebodied earlier Lancia as it looks quite wide to me ? (Probably the narrow grille exaggerates that)

andys120

magnette said:

Apparently Palmer was influenced by the coach building on the Lancia Aurelia - earliest versions of that came along in about 1950 and the first of the new bodies - the Wolseley 4/44 - was announced in late 1952.

Was that Lancia an Aurelia coachbuilt by someone like Touring or is it a rebodied earlier Lancia as it looks quite wide to me ? (Probably the narrow grille exaggerates that)

According to Wikipedia it was Pininfarina that produced the definitive version of the Aurelia B20GT



Undoubtedly Touring and others did their versions as well but I couldn't find a pic of one w Touring bodywork. The above B&W photo might be of a very early Aurelia (note the divided windshield).

Mr_Shiftright

Maybe it was a specially built coachbuilt car. I have no other info on it.

At any rate, the B20 "GT" was a REAL GT--this car ran in the Mille Miglia and beat out most of the Mercedes 300SL team. It also won its class at LeMans. It makes the modern use of the term "GT" seem like a disappointment.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

At any rate, the B20 "GT" was a REAL GT--this car ran in the Mille Miglia and beat out most of the Mercedes 300SL team. It also won its class at LeMans. It makes the modern use of the term "GT" seem like a disappointment.

Not surprising since the B20 is considered the pioneer Gran Turismo car

Mr_Shiftright

First production V-6 in the world, I think, too. Oh, it also scored 1-2-3 in the Targa Florio. Quite an impressive automobile on many levels.

andys120

texases said:

Why no portholes? I thought they were standard.
edit - from what I can tell all '53 Buicks except the Skylark had them...wonder why?

That's correct, the Skylark was the only Buick not to have the portho...er Venti-ports for 1953.

I think it helped to set the 'Lark apart from the others and give it that clean appearance that was rare in that era. The '54 version also lacked the ports but had extraneous details
that resulted in a much less attractive design IMO featuring chromed fins and ridges on the trunk lid>

lostwrench1

Only 836 of the '54s were made.

Mr_Shiftright

It would look so much better without wire wheels--some of those nice, big chrome Buick hubcaps and fat whites would work for me. This is a Buick, not an MG.

texases

I'm just grateful no Continental kit was installed...

Mr_Shiftright

I realize that in '53 GM was TRYING to be pimpy, given how austere their car lineup was, but still, there is a time when you stop decorating the birthday cake before you ruin it.

imidazol97

What's the newest car in the back row?
Some of us may be able to identify the motorcycles to help determine a possible date for picture.

fintail

Headlight and corner of a 53 Stude at far right?

Mr_Shiftright

That lower grille sure looks like one and that also looks like the newest car.

andys120

berri

Maybe a 51 Mercury wagon

Mr_Shiftright

Rare car! With those side lights on either end of the grille, I'd say a '50. The '49 also had side lights but they were more round.

fintail

Back in the 80s when I was a kid and got into the surfer fad a little, I really had a thing for shoebox Ford woodies and their Mercury counterparts. Still worth decent money, too.

In the eastern WA town where I lived, there was a 49-51 Mercury woody sitting in the backyard of a house a couple blocks from school, I remember seeing it often. Long gone now.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

Rare car! With those side lights on either end of the grille, I'd say a '50. The '49 also had side lights but they were more round.

You'd say right Mr. S, it is a '50 Merc.

fintail said:

Back in the 80s when I was a kid and got into the surfer fad a little, I really had a thing for shoebox Ford woodies and their Mercury counterparts. Still worth decent money, too.

The original surfing craze took place in the 1960s to the tune of the Beach Boys. Us East Coast Ho-Dads had no chance at Shoe-box Fords or Mercs, they were long gone. We packed our Hobie into a stripper '61 Falcon wagon (straight 6- 3-speed).

andys120

stickguy

90s vintage Toyota Previa. Back when the Japanese had fun ideas, like a mid engine van. No clue if it is a S/C model.

andys120

stickguy said:

90s vintage Toyota Previa. Back when the Japanese had fun ideas, like a mid engine van. No clue if it is a S/C model.

Yep, the Previa was not only interesting technically but pretty well styled for a large metal box.

andys120

Finland>

fintail

Finland MN?

Nice Lexus coupe driving down the street. Newest car appears to be a 62 Impala 4 door HT/sport sedan parked near the building at left.

berri

I like that 57 or 58 DeSoto coupe with the fins and rear antenna. Andre around? The 60 Plymouth on the road is an oddball.

Mr_Shiftright

'54 Pontiac---no stars on the fins, so I"m guessing a base model.

texases

That must be a used car lot. Newest would be that car across the street, under "Super". But I can't make it out...'63-ish Rambler American?

Mr_Shiftright

Not an American--maybe a "Classic"?

fintail

The car under "Super" is a 62 Impala 4 door HT

Mr_Shiftright

I thought he meant coming out of the overhead door, to the right.

texases

fintail said:

The car under "Super" is a 62 Impala 4 door HT

I guess so. The grill looks off, but it must be the light.

fintail

Oh yeah, the car to the right, kind of backed in near the brick building, is definitely a Rambler maybe a 59-60. Also looks like a 61 Chrysler driving on the street directly in front of the Rambler.

tmart

56 Ford Fairlane across the street.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

'54 Pontiac---no stars on the fins, so I"m guessing a base model.

The Poncho is a two-door h/t so not likely to be a base model. Most likely it lacks those fin stars cuz it's a '53 (late edit) just noticed it hasn't got the chrome stripes which makes it a '56 IIRC.

andys120

fintail said:

Finland MN?

Nice Lexus coupe driving down the street. Newest car appears to be a 62 Impala 4 door HT/sport sedan parked near the building at left.

I was just being cute w "Finland" since all the cars in the row had fins. Driving down the street is a 1960 Plymouth Fury (not a Lexus!) I think the '62 Chevy is the newest car but I can't tell MYs on Ramblers

lostwrench1

Mr_Shiftright said:

'54 Pontiac---no stars on the fins, so I"m guessing a base model.

andys120 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

'54 Pontiac---no stars on the fins, so I"m guessing a base model.

The Poncho is a two-door h/t so not likely to be a base model. Most likely it lacks those fin stars cuz it's a '53.

I'll see your '54 and '53 and raise you 10 chips.
It's a '55.
(Note the backup lights' locations.)

andys120

Three Chevies in a row, a '55, a '57 Bel Air and a '56. Anyone got that '53/'54 MoPar between the DeSoto and the Pontiac h/t (a Dodge?)?

lostwrench1

Whoa, Lostwrench. You just lost your 10 chips. It's a 1956.
(Note the 3 indents on the side horizontal before the tailight.

fintail

Zoom, right over my head.

60-61 Plymouth/late model Lexus, what's the difference?

andys120 said:

I was just being cute w "Finland" since all the cars in the row had fins. Driving down the street is a 1960 Plymouth Fury (not a Lexus!) I think the '62 Chevy is the newest car but I can't tell MYs on Ramblers