Mystery car pix

Mr_Shiftright

Jeanne Crain played "Peg Phillips". Also starring Mickey Rooney, Jr, whose other major accomplishment was being a Mouseketeer. He married a Playboy Bunny and later became an evangelical minister. He certainly covered all the bases.

omarman

I didn't see the whole movie. But I remember that my mom sat down to watch TV with us and we were all rooting for the punks to get hurt! My dad was still recovering from a back injury after an accident.

kyfdx

Mr_Shiftright said:

Jeanne Crain played "Peg Phillips". Also starring Mickey Rooney, Jr, whose other major accomplishment was being a Mouseketeer. He married a Playboy Bunny and later became an evangelical minister. He certainly covered all the bases.

Well.. all that and a major movie star..

andys120

thebean

Imperial from Chrysler. Maybe a 1963? I can see Mr Drysdale, except his wasn't a convert.

andys120

thebean said:

Imperial from Chrysler. Maybe a 1963? I can see Mr Drysdale, except his wasn't a convert.

1966 Chrysler Crown Imperial.

andys120

stickguy

no clue but I want one!

kinda looks like a SAAB sonnet. And makes me think of 1970s Lancias.

qbrozen

andys120 said:

I'm surprised an engine can fit under that hood

qbrozen

andys120 said:

That is GORGEOUS

kyfdx

I think it's a '70s Lancia. No idea which model, though

andys120

kyfdx said:

I think it's a '70s Lancia. No idea which model, though

Nope, it's not a Lancia, though the styling comes from a place that did several of those.



I'm surprised an engine can fit under that hood

It's not a very big engine (1600cc)>

omarman

well that's an alfa romeo engine.

ab348

qbrozen said:

andys120 said:

That is GORGEOUS


Just a spectacular car. I always preferred the '67 but have to admit this one, the last of the body-on-frame versions with the almost-wraparound windshield, sure looks fabulous. Only negative is that the interior, while gorgeous, is black, a no-no on any convertible.

ab348

omarman said:

well that's an alfa romeo engine.

That's because it is an Alfa. A Junior Zagato. Neat little car and very rare but I would be hard-pressed to love a vehicle that was called a "Junior" anything....

omarman

stickguy said:

no clue but I want one!

kinda looks like a SAAB sonnet. And makes me think of 1970s Lancias.

stickguy! Your post reminded me of the same "sonnet" guess about the same car....in 2012!

result of search:
stickguy
December 2012
SAAB Sonnet. maybe a III?

I thought also that the Alfa just posted looked an awful lot like one of these.

andys120

ab348 said:

omarman said:

well that's an alfa romeo engine.

That's because it is an Alfa. A Junior Zagato. Neat little car and very rare but I would be hard-pressed to love a vehicle that was called a "Junior" anything....

Yep, that's a 1973 Alfa-Romeo 1600 Junior Zagato and FWIW, I'm a "junior!"

andys120

imidazol97

andys120 said:

thebean said:

Imperial from Chrysler. Maybe a 1963? I can see Mr Drysdale, except his wasn't a convert.

1966 Chrysler Crown Imperial.

I couldn't remember the rear of those cars. The front and sides are so elegant because everything is understated and serves a purpose. Even the wheel covers are perfect. The rear is fitting but not as simple as the rest of the car. I found the same picture if folks want more views or to purchase.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-chrysler-crown-imperial-convertible/

texases

I remember pulling that Imperial emblem in the bumper to “fill it up” with premium/ethyl/Boron at the Sohio station. 

kyfdx

SOHIO

Funny how you can forget everyday things like that.

fintail

We're the ones in the Imperial, and we're running last?!

qbrozen

andys120 said:

I'm guessing DB9, but I have a feeling you'll tell me it is one of any number of slight variants.

andys120

I'm guessing DB9, but I have a feeling you'll tell me it is one of any number of slight variants.

It is a 2005 Aston-Martin DB-9 Vantage
I saw one at a car show recently in the same color and thought it was one of the best looking cars I'd ever seen, it reminded me a bit of the E-Type, it's that good-looking.

qbrozen

andys120 said:

It is a 2005 Aston-Martin DB-9 Vantage I saw one at a car show recently in the same color and thought it was one of the best looking cars I'd ever seen, it reminded me a bit of the E-Type, it's that good-looking.  

They are getiing down into the "somewhat affordable" range... if you are brave enough.

andys120

stickguy

It's a De Soto!

andys120

stickguy said:

It's a De Soto!

Okay, we've established that you can read, now how about model, model year or body type?

omarman

coupe.

qbrozen

Blue

tmart

Two doors.

kyfdx

I'm going to guess at the year, and say 1951.

andys120

kyfdx said:

I'm going to guess at the year, and say 1951.

Sorry, definitely not a '51, those were all teeth



The blue car is a 1947 Desoto Deluxe.

andys120

omarman said:

coupe.

Incomplete answer, it's what's called a "Business Coupe". The extended trunk was for sales guys to carry wares and samples.

kyfdx

Yeah.. I wanted to go older, but it always seemed that DeSotos were behind the times. (or, maybe that was Studebaker?)

qbrozen

kyfdx said:

Yeah.. I wanted to go older, but it always seemed that DeSotos were behind the times. (or, maybe that was Studebaker?)

i went through that exact same thought process in my mind. LOL.

omarman

andys120 said:

omarman said:

coupe.

Incomplete answer, it's what's called a "Business Coupe". The extended trunk was for sales guys to carry wares and samples.

Check out the 1947 DeSoto car line description here.

On page 2 of the online doc, the chart shows that a DeSoto DeLuxe was available as either a 2 door coupe or 2 door club coupe. No reference to the Andy Business coupe.

On page 4, the illustration of the "coupe" is shown to be the same as your mystery car pic.

ab348

I believe the official name was "DeLuxe 3-passenger coupe".

omarman

Fair enough. Page 2 indicates either a coupe or club coupe for 1947 DeLuxe models. There is convertible coupe listed in the Custom line.

berri

I always thought that late 40's early 50's Mopar 3 window coupe had odd proportions, but honestly, I guess it is function over form for a change. Did anyone besides Kaiser have a hatchback business coupe around the turn of that decade?

I think Mopar ran that shade of blue, or something very similar, into the mid 50's. Decent color to me.

imidazol97

qbrozen said:

James Bond?

andys120

omarman said:

Fair enough. Page 2 indicates either a coupe or club coupe for 1947 DeLuxe models. There is convertible coupe listed in the Custom line.

Perhaps Desoto didn't call theirs a "business" coupe but three passenger two-doors with trunks big enough to carry a dead horse were generally known by that term in that era.

omarman

andys120 said:

omarman said:

Fair enough. Page 2 indicates either a coupe or club coupe for 1947 DeLuxe models. There is convertible coupe listed in the Custom line.

Perhaps Desoto didn't call theirs a "business" coupe but three passenger two-doors with trunks big enough to carry a dead horse were generally known by that term in that era.

Yes! DeSoto called that body type a "coupe." I accept your apology.
Thank you for stopping the dead horse beat down!

Mr_Shiftright

stickguy said:

no clue but I want one!

kinda looks like a SAAB sonnet. And makes me think of 1970s Lancias.

Drive it and you may not want it. It's like a kit car.

Mr_Shiftright

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

It's a De Soto!

Okay, we've established that you can read, now how about model, model year or body type?

Looks like one of those "businessman's coupe" they use to sell with little doors going into the trunk.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

It's a De Soto!

Okay, we've established that you can read, now how about model, model year or body type?

Looks like one of those "businessman's coupe" they use to sell with little doors going into the trunk.

Better late than never, I guess. Apparently you must be "of a certain age" to recall that term.

andys120

"Needs work"

Mr_Shiftright

andys120 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

It's a De Soto!

Okay, we've established that you can read, now how about model, model year or body type?

Looks like one of those "businessman's coupe" they use to sell with little doors going into the trunk.

Better late than never, I guess. Apparently you must be "of a certain age" to recall that term.

Nah--it's part of my work. I have to do a lot of research on old cars. In the case of hoarders who left 100 of them out in the back 40, I need to photograph and accurately identify them.

The idea of the "businessman's coupe" was that he was a traveling salesman, and put his "wares" in the trunk. Having little doors in the back behind the driver's seat allowed him to access those items that he probably loaded up first at the start of his day.

magnette

That somewhat battered car looks like a Facel Vega Excellence - the first version from abut 1958-62 had those fins but they trimmed them a bit afterwards.

Mechanically the engine would be Chrysler but I'm guessing that would be the least of the problems that anyone restoring this would face....

Mr_Shiftright

Well it's a car well-restored that's worth maybe $150,000, so what they'd face is a big financial loss.

Oddly enough, there was a plan to badge-engineering the Excellence as a Packard and sell it through S-P dealerships.