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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    Probe GT. No clue on years for those.

    I know my friend's wife had one once upon a time. IIRC, it had the 2.5 v6 from the mazda 626.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    qbrozen said:

    Probe GT. No clue on years for those.

    I know my friend's wife had one once upon a time. IIRC, it had the 2.5 v6 from the mazda 626.

    Yep, it's a 1997 Ford Probe GT. It was based on the same platform as the Mazda 626 and IIRC made in the same plant (Flat Rock MI IIRC). I drove one courtesy of a dealer-client who would occasionally let me drive cars I thought interesting.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,012
    1997? Didn't realize they stuck around that long.
    Built them in Flat Rock, along side the 626, I think.

    A pretty nice vehicle for the '90s

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Time to Play...


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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,588
    At one point, the Probe was meant to replace the Mustang.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Michaell said:

    At one point, the Probe was meant to replace the Mustang.

    True, and what a mistake that would've been.

    https://nytimes.com/2018/05/24/business/ford-mustang-american-icon.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=image&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    '62 Chevy Wagon.
    '57 Cadillac.
    A Valiant.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    andys120 said:

    Time to Play...


    MGTD----the TC with shopping cart wheels.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Just saw one of these today:


  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    andys120 said:

    Time to Play...


    MGTD----the TC with shopping cart wheels.
    There's a couple of odd things about that particular car. First it is RHD. MG-TCs were all RHD but most TDs sold in the USA were LHD and wore those "shopping cart" disc wheels.
    Some TDs sold in the Euro markets had the more graceful wire wheels (smaller diameterss
    than on the earlier TCs).


    (I think those are German plates).

    Any idea, Shifty on why US-spec TDs didn't have a wire option?

    Also seen in that photo are a '57 Caddy and the rear of a '62 Chevrolet wagon which would be a decade younger than an MG-TD.







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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    Just saw one of these today:



    The model name is right on the plate, It's a Plymouth Scamp, the Dodge version was the Rampage. Both were based on the Omni/Horizon.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Is that something like a 48 Buick next to the Scamp? I think Scamp used to be the name of a Valiant or Dart coupe in maybe the early 70's.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,012
    I think the Scamp was a Valiant

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited May 2018
    andys120 said:

    Mr_Shiftright said:

    andys120 said:

    Time to Play...


    MGTD----the TC with shopping cart wheels.
    There's a couple of odd things about that particular car. First it is RHD. MG-TCs were all RHD but most TDs sold in the USA were LHD and wore those "shopping cart" disc wheels.
    Some TDs sold in the Euro markets had the more graceful wire wheels (smaller diameterss
    than on the earlier TCs).


    (I think those are German plates).

    Any idea, Shifty on why US-spec TDs didn't have a wire option?

    Also seen in that photo are a '57 Caddy and the rear of a '62 Chevrolet wagon which would be a decade younger than an MG-TD.

    No TDs were produced with wire wheels from the factory. After the TF came out, the factory produced a retro-fit kit for the TD.

    The TD was basically a Y chassis with a TC body plopped on it--it rode better and handled better, but it sure didn't look better.





  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    berri said:

    Is that something like a 48 Buick next to the Scamp? I think Scamp used to be the name of a Valiant or Dart coupe in maybe the early 70's.

    Yes, the 2D Scamp sedan was based on a Valiant, 1971-76, and was RWD.

    The oddball "Ute" was based on the Horizon, in 1983.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,293
    Mr_Shiftright said:


    Yes, the 2D Scamp sedan was based on a Valiant, 1971-76, and was RWD.

    Actually it was a hardtop body style. I so wanted the family to buy one of those instead of the Maverick we ultimately got.


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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I'm thinking the Dodge Dart version was maybe called the "Swinger"?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    ab348 said:

    Mr_Shiftright said:


    Yes, the 2D Scamp sedan was based on a Valiant, 1971-76, and was RWD.

    Actually it was a hardtop body style. I so wanted the family to buy one of those instead of the Maverick we ultimately got.


    Well I meant that all hardtops are "sedans" but not all sedans are hardtops.

    Quibble, quibble. :p
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,293
    Just trying to prevent truth decay, Shifty. :p

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Car body nomenclature has always been a confusing mass of vagaries. Now we have 4-door "coupes", we have roadsters and cabriolets and spiders. We've had Broughams that were sedans, and 2-door club sedans and 4-door town sedans. (So you can go to the club in a 2-door, but not into town?).

    But I'm diggin' in here and am going to die on this hill---anything with a fixed roof is a sedan. Call it a hardtop, call it a coupe, call it a town car, a limousine---whatever.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    Silver car resembling a fancy sentra is a Maserati 420/425 aka Biturbo.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Nice interiors on those cars. Very pleasant to sit in waiting for the tow truck. :p
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,293
    Mr_Shiftright said:


    But I'm diggin' in here and am going to die on this hill---anything with a fixed roof is a sedan. Call it a hardtop, call it a coupe, call it a town car, a limousine---whatever.

    Been nice knowing you. (holds hat over heart, bows head) B)

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Whatever shall we call this?


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    600 Landaulet, the most desirable 600 variant.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Ah yes, when "Landau" bars actually went up and down!

    I've driven the stretch limo and it was awesome--like driving a freight train--but I've never seen a Landaulet in real life.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    They made few of these, the vehicle of choice for despots/tin pot dictators (today, heads of state of several leading nations would be at home in one). No visible landau bars, although functional MB cabrios of the earlier 50s could have them. I think I have seen one or two in German museums.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Didn't the pope have one of these at one time?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    Yep. his was a special 4 door variant, an early car, maybe the first Landaulet of the series.

    I still like John Paul IIs G-Wagen.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Going back to roofs equalling a sedan - you actually mean a saloon....
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Still from Rififi (1955)


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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Ford Vedette - early version as they changed it in about 1951 I think so circa 1948/50

    I have a model of one of these (1/43rd scale)




  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Nice miniature, IMCDB thinks the still is of a 1951 Ford Vedette.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    I've just looked it up and they changed in 1953 apparently - not 1951 - so they are right.

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Mystery dash:


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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    edited May 2018
    Looks like Mustang symbols on the horn and door panels. But the shape of the dash, the short hood, the seat side bolsters, and that steering wheel are bugging me when added up. I can't figure out a year where that all makes sense.

    is it just because it is a dark interior and I'm viewing on my phone that I can't seem to find a shifter in that pic??

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    qbrozen said:

    Looks like Mustang symbols on the horn and door panels. But the shape of the dash, the short hood, the seat side bolsters, and that steering wheel are bugging me when added up. I can't figure out a year where that all makes sense.

    is it just because it is a dark interior and I'm viewing on my phone that I can't seem to find a shifter in that pic??

    Those aren't Mustang emblems and there is no floor mounted shifter. IIRC the A/T shift lever was a tab located under the dash so not visible in photos.

    Does this help?>


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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,293
    That's a Corvair dash, second-gen version. Aftermarket steering wheel though.

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    My dad bought a Corvair Monza for my mom after he got a Corvair Van for his business. That steering wheel partially obscures the auto trans lever on the dash to the left side of the radio.
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    ab348 said:

    That's a Corvair dash, second-gen version. Aftermarket steering wheel though.

    omarman said:

    My dad bought a Corvair Monza for my mom after he got a Corvair Van for his business. That steering wheel partially obscures the auto trans lever on the dash to the left side of the radio.

    Yep, 1965 Corvair Monza>




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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,393
    love the car. hate the wheels.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    It's not often you see marked police units w hardtops>


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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,012
    Well.... Hoosiers :p

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    stickguy said:

    love the car. hate the wheels.

    Fitting large modern wheels on vintage cars is usually a mistake. Second gen 'Vairs were exceptionally good looking IMO.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    A naturally good-looking car is like a naturally good-looking person. No additional adornments required.

    Don't Do This:


  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399
    Definitely! A 56 Ford Crown Victoria looks good without the additions added here. The license plate says it all though!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    No sunvisor?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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