Mystery car pix

Michaell

tjc78 said:

Spotted at work yesterday.

Same color as the L300 sedan I owned.

fintail

There's a woman who works in my office who has a first style L wagon similar to that. I've talked to her about it a couple times, as it is fairly immaculate. Original owner, and she loves it.

andys120

texases said:

andys120 said:

Recent Alfa 4c Spider

Correct, current MY, the Coupe has been dropped.

kyfdx

andys120 said:

kyfdx said:

One for @andys120

Mid 60s Triumph TR-4 ('62-'65) very similar to the '66 TR-4A I owned. The wheels are aftermarket copies of Minilite mags probably a lot cheaper than the real things.

I’m a big fan of the fake mini lites

andys120

kyfdx said:

I’m a big fan of the fake mini lites

So am I, real Minilites are really expensive and the look-alike Panasports should be fine for street use. If you're going racing you should get the real Minilites.

andys120

stickguy

1960's Ferrari/ gorgeous car. When they had style instead of looking like caricatures

I saw a TR4 in a driveway yesterday. Looked to be in some state of restoration..

andys120

stickguy said:

1960's Ferrari/ gorgeous car. When they had style instead of looking like caricatures

I saw a TR4 in a driveway yesterday. Looked to be in some state of restoration..

Yes it is a 1960s Ferrari, anyone want to specify which model.

kyfdx

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

1960's Ferrari/ gorgeous car. When they had style instead of looking like caricatures

I saw a TR4 in a driveway yesterday. Looked to be in some state of restoration..

Yes it is a 1960s Ferrari, anyone want to specify which model.

330 GT? (WAG)

omarman

Looks like Rob Walker's 250 GT Lusso. But the Walker car was right hand drive and painted in the Walker racing colors Blue with White stripe. I remember reading "Rob's Cars" stories in R&T. Good times.

ab348

I also would say it is a 250 Lusso. Pretty car.

andys120

Yup, it's a Ferrari 250GT Berlinetta Lusso. According to lore it was commissioned by Enzo himself when he first saw the new Jaguar E-type ca. 1960. He told his friend and collaborator Battista Pininfarina that it was the most beautiful car he'd ever seen and challenged him to style a Ferrari that was equally beautiful. The result was the Lusso Berlinetta based on the chassis of the 250GT SWB but with a more luxurious interior
and a slightly de-tuned Colombo 3 liter V12.

Lusso is the Italian for Luxury and a Berlinetta is a close-coupled coupe.

I'll never forget the first time I saw one. One day in '63 I was riding up NYS Rt. 17/The Quickway thru the Catskills and we get passed by this silver beauty wearing Italian Tourist plates (EE) sporting the 4 big tail pipes that were then unique to Ferrari V12s.

If Pininfarina did not quite match the unique beauty that marks the early E-Types he came tantalizingly close IMHO. Of course the Lusso cost twice what the Jag did, 351 were made in 1962 and '63.

-Steve McQueen's was a controversial metallic brown. Guitar god Eric Clapton had one

-Chevrolet borrowed many of the styling elements for the 1970 Camaro and had a version called the Camaro Berlinetta.

-Unlike most Ferraris of the day the Lusso was not designed with GT or sports car racing in mind and very few were ever raced.

-European ideas of luxury in the early 60s did not include power locks, windows or steering
or air conditioning and the 250GT Lusso had none of those.

ab348

texases

1965 Maserati 3500 Sebring Vignale Coupe

ab348

Bingo! Well done.

ab348

Since that one was knocked off so quickly, let's try this. Can anyone ID the car in the front? I recognize the Peugeot behind it but I am stumped by #1. It is from Vienna circa 1964.

texases

1960-ish Skoda Octavia

andys120

texases said:

1960-ish Skoda Octavia

The car behind is a Puegeot 403 from the late 50s, note yellow headlights then required in France.

andys120

Lots of different model years in this photo, the newest cars I see are 1958s. Can you see'em?

tjc78

Pretty sure in the first row there is a 58 Olds 98.

stickguy

Is the Lincoln last in line a 58? And the Edsel 2 cars ahead.

And dang, is the giant caddy turning in a taxi?

fintail

58 Chevy wagon on the street at far left beside the Beetle. 2 cars ahead of the Olds looks like a 58 Ford, with a 58 Edsel in line at the row to the left, behind a 56 Chevy wagon. Another 58 Ford in the background of the lined up cars, in front of a 40s style truck. Oldest car is probably the car in the rightmost row near the people, looks like a 39-40 GM, probably a Chevy.

Pic from Hawaii maybe?

sda

The black Caddy has a/c! Note the air intake near the back window.

stickguy

And a taxi sign on the roof toward the front?

andys120

tjc78 said:

Pretty sure in the first row there is a 58 Olds 98.

Yup, the black car at the end of the row to the right of center is definitely a '58 Olds. That year Olds and Buick were having a contest to see who could put the most chrome striping
on the car.

I count at least three more '58s.

ab348

There are a couple of Beetles up front (the older Cabrio would be worth something today I imagine) and a Fintail for @fintail, but what are the two vehicles front right and elsewhere beyond? Location is Berchtesgaden in the Bavaria region of Germany, 1964.

stickguy

looks like a red Messerchmidt on the far left, front.

andys120

The white car next to the Cabrio is a Ford Taunus ca. 1960-64. It might be one of the newest cars. Behind that cab we see the nose of a Fiat 500 or 600, another of which is parked next to the building at top.

fintail

Two different types of fintails no less, a W110 at left and a W111. The car to the right of the "Badewanne" Taunus is a prior gen Taunus, and what looks like a BMW 700 at left of the bubble car (which to me looks like an early Isetta).

berri

Not sure, but the car in front of the 58 Olds may be a 58 Plymouth and the one ahead of it a 58 Edsel?

andys120

berri said:

Not sure, but the car in front of the 58 Olds may be a 58 Plymouth and the one ahead of it a 58 Edsel?

I think it is a '58 Plymouth and yes, in front of it is an Edsel. Can you see the other Edsel in the picture?

fintail

I see only one Edsel

stickguy

left side of the right hand island, 2nd car back is the one I saw.

is the other one the next row to the left, right behind the chevy wagon?

andys120

stickguy said:

left side of the right hand island, 2nd car back is the one I saw.

is the other one the next row to the left, right behind the chevy wagon?

Yup.

fintail

I saw the one behind the Chevy wagon, but the one to the right looks like a 58 Ford to me.

andys120

fintail said:

I saw the one behind the Chevy wagon, but the one to the right looks like a 58 Ford to me.

It could be a '58 Ford...or a Merc.

andys120

kyfdx

Land Rover Defender

Is that coming here?

stickguy

Will sell like expensive hot cakes.

andys120

kyfdx said:

Land Rover Defender

Is that coming here?

Not sure but I think so. It looks like the end of the off-road for flat windshields.

ab348

Yes, here is the story from Automotive News (if it turns you back, try opening it in a private window):

https://www.autonews.com/frankfurt-auto-show/land-rover-defender-returns-us-priced-50925

Starting at $50K!

stickguy

this is nice. But what exactly is it???

kyfdx

stickguy said:

this is nice. But what exactly is it???

Looks like a mid-70s 911 Carrera

stickguy

well, no points for Carerra.

but it is more special than that.

andys120

That's a 1973-74 Porsche 911RS 2.7 Carrera, my favorite variant of the 911. It could be had without the silly lettering on the side, here's my scale model of it>

stickguy

correct. it is a 73.

auction estimate a cool $850,000-$950,000.

andys120

stickguy

Early 60s Porsche 356. I can’t tell years apart or a B form a C.

andys120

stickguy said:

Early 60s Porsche 356. I can’t tell years apart or a B form a C.

It's a Porsche 356A ca. 1955/56. If a 356 is wearing hubcaps you can tell it's model letter: round ones like that are a 356A. Flatter ones with raised center section are 356Bs, 356Cs
have pretty flat hubcaps without a raised center.

ab348

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

Early 60s Porsche 356. I can’t tell years apart or a B form a C.

It's a Porsche 356A ca. 1955/56. If a 356 is wearing hubcaps you can tell it's model letter: round ones like that are a 356A. Flatter ones with raised center section are 356Bs, 356Cs
have pretty flat hubcaps without a raised center.

Would those be the original wheels those hubcaps are on? They look rather wide for a mid-50s car. Might make IDing the model year by the hubcap choice rather unreliable if the wheels are a later addition.