Mystery car pix

stickguy

is that a Dauphine with the luggage rack on the roof?

tmart

I believe it is.

andys120

fintail said:

Hillman Minx 3rd from L.

I think you're correct. At first glance it looked like a Minor to me but it has a less rounded shape.

fintail

andys120 said:

fintail said:

Hillman Minx 3rd from L.

I think you're correct. At first glance it looked like a Minor to me but it has a less rounded shape.

I've always liked the Minx for some weird reason, I am certain that's what it is.

I think the older looking car at right beside a 57 Chevy is a Ford Prefect from the early 50s.

andys120

Converts were surpisingly popular in Anchorage back then>

fintail

Maybe before the 1964 earthquake when many sections of downtown sank about 10 feet.

What's between the 2 long long trailers at right? Maybe Simca Aronde?

explorerx4

Black Squarebird convertible parked behind the Cadillac.

andys120

White MG-A roadster on right passing trailers.

bhill2

OK, two questions. 1) is the Cadillac on the left a 59 or a 60? 2) is the white car between the trailer and the blue truck a Simca Aronde?

andys120

bhill2 said:

OK, two questions. 1) is the Cadillac on the left a 59 or a 60? 2) is the white car between the trailer and the blue truck a Simca Aronde?

I'd guess it's a 60 because you can't see anything of the massive 1959 fins.

andys120

fintail

Renault Caravelle with a couple more behind it.

I remember in the late 80s when I was a kid, a local used car lot ended up with one, it was pretty interesting to me.

explorerx4

Has there ever been a more normal looking French car that that Caravelle?
Front has kind of an MGB influence.

magnette

Happy New Year

This is the Town Hall in Tavistock in Devon, and was photographed in the early 70's

magnette

@bhill2

The white import in Anchorage is a Simca Aronde

magnette

Another one from Merrie England....

East Grinstead in West Sussex



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andys120

White car was sold in the USA as an MG-ll00. That's probably the UK version w an Austin badge. Behind it is a green Renault 4.

xwesx

Forget about the cars, those buildings are fabulous!

fintail

Tavistock - red Morris Marina with what looks like a white Austin Maxi or other ADO14 two cars behind it. At far right the nose of a 105E Anglia.

East Grinstead - what looks like a Renault 12 parked head to head with maybe a Peugeot 204 estate.

ab348

andys120 said:

White car was sold in the USA as an MG-ll00. That's probably the UK version w an Austin badge. Behind it is a green Renault 4.

Uhh, no. As Fin noted, the green car is a Renault 12 with its sloped rear deck, and looks nothing at all like a Renault 4. As for the white car, that looks like an Austin 1100, as can be identified by its grille design, different from the Morris 1100, and a lot different from the MG variant sold in the US:



The blue car ahead of the white ADO16 is a Simca, sold in North America as a 1204 though Europe had other variants. The red car at the front of the line appears to be a Mini Clubman Estate, the Clubman indicating the redesigned, longer squared off front-end styling among other changes.

andys120

bhill2

I'll hazard a guess at an early 60s Maserati 3500.

andys120

bhill2 said:

I'll hazard a guess at an early 60s Maserati 3500.

Good guess it's a 1962 Maserati 3500GT Spyder Vignale. IMO one of the most desirable cars of an era that produced many terrific cars. Power from a twin-cam six.

fintail

You're driving me to Phoenix! (zooms well):

ab348

1969 Cutlass turning ahead of a 1972 Matador which is being followed by a Gremlin.

xwesx

Squarebody GMC that was likely among the first of its kind and the newest in the photo. 1973?

Lostwrench3

1956 Chrysler Windsor.

fintail

Seattle, 1979, zooms fine:

Michaell

Sky is too blue to be Seattle.

70's Corolla and Golf, Caprice wagon.

Looks like a yellow Chevrolet Monza in front of the VW.

stickguy

red car looks like a Corvair. but resolution is not great on it.

Lostwrench3

As a former crewmember of an electric utility truck I say, "what a heck of a mess".

texases

Looks like my earliest memories of Cincinnati streets, with the streetcar wires.

kyfdx

I didn't move to the area until 1973, so I don't remember any of that, though I visited as early as 1965.

Also, a heck of an overlook to the left side of the picture. Too bad they didn't capture that.

magnette

@andys120

in Tavistock the white car is indeed an Austin(or Morris) 1300 MkII and the other similar one in East grinstead is an older Austin 1100


@fintail

I think the Peugeot is a 304 Estate as that is bit taller somehow

The R 12 has French plates which is probably because E Grinstead is only about 40 miles from the ferry port to Dieppe


Nobody took up the grey car in right foreground in Tavistock... or the blue car in East Grinstead



@xwesx
The buildings are pretty old.


In East Grinstead the whole street is between 1500 & 1650 I think except the little shop with the red striped awning which may be about 1750.

EDIT - I've just looked at the register of Listed (Protected ) buildings and all those timbered fronted ones are only of mid 1700's - I had thought they were older.

In Tavistock the building is the Town Hall and is much more modern - it is in Victorian Gothic style and was completed in 1864

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magnette

What you call Street Cars were known as Trolley Buses here

London had about 1800 of them - nearly all double deckers - ranging from the early 1930's to withdrawal in 1962. I think it was the largest trolley bus fleet in the world at the time

That was before I left Wales of course, but we had similar double deck trolley buses in Cardiff until 1969 and I did travel on those a few times.

This is a London example and in fact it is preserved in Lincolnshire where they have a whole museum of them - some of which , including this one, are operational over a little track round the museum which is on an old airforce base.

I did get to travel in this one, as a result, a few years back...

texases

I just grabbed 'street car', I think the correct term was 'trolley bus' for the Cininnati system, too.

fintail

magnette said:

@andys120

in Tavistock the white car is indeed an Austin(or Morris) 1300 MkII and the other similar one in East grinstead is an older Austin 1100


@fintail

I think the Peugeot is a 304 Estate as that is bit taller somehow

The R 12 has French plates which is probably because E Grinstead is only about 40 miles from the ferry port to Dieppe


Nobody took up the grey car in right foreground in Tavistock... or the blue car in East Grinstead



@xwesx
The buildings are pretty old.


In East Grinstead the whole street is between 1500 & 1650 I think except the little shop with the red striped awning which may be about 1750.

EDIT - I've just looked at the register of Listed (Protected ) buildings and all those timbered fronted ones are only of mid 1700's - I had thought they were older.

In Tavistock the building is the Town Hall and is much more modern - it is in Victorian Gothic style and was completed in 1864

.

I know the shape of the silver car, but the name isn't coming to me.

Blue car is a Simca 1100, I think.

As I know you like old diecast, you might recall this trolley bus:

magnette

I've got one of those matchbox trolley buses somewhere - though not in such good condition as your example - I coloured-in the advertising panels with a felt tipped pen, and it is without a box

magnette

Yes to the Simca 1100 - they were really good sellers here but disappeared in the late 70's and are really rare now.

The silver car is not typical of that manufacturers main products ... but probably more stable when cornering

magnette

In Phoenix, is the car approaching in the right lane a 57 Chrysler Windsor ?

fintail

magnette said:

Yes to the Simca 1100 - they were really good sellers here but disappeared in the late 70's and are really rare now.

The silver car is not typical of that manufacturers main products ... but probably more stable when cornering

Aha, a Reliant Scimitar coupe. I was thinking Scimitar, but forgot there was a coupe version of the shooting brake design.

magnette

@texases

In the UK there were about 60 different cities and towns that had trolleybus systems - many in the northern industrial cities like Manchester, Birmingham and Newcastle and generally they were all funded by local government - many took over from tram systems - taking up the tracks but re-utilising the overhead wiring system.

In Glasgow they had an enormous fleet of old trams and some were about eighty years old when they were withdrawn.

London's Trolley buses operated as a sort of feeder system out to the suburbs as they were cheaper than putting in more tram tracks and far cheaper than extending the tube system - but London Transport was responsible for all of it so it was really an integrated system - Tube - Transfer - Bus - Trolleybus

they also had about 8500 buses at the peak in the late fifties

In fairness it still is really as there are some modern tram lines in South London - mainly Croydon - and the tube is now supplemented by metro lines which and the new arterial Elizabeth line

texases

My main memory is how the arms would spark at each of the wire junctions as it drove by.

magnette

Effectively I hardly ever drive in London now - as a pensioner I get free use of the LT system - with some restriction to avoid congestion in the morning rush...

ab348

My understanding is that a “streetcar” runs on a fixed rail track in the street while a trolley is rubber-tired and has maneuvering ability to the limit of their conductor poles to the electrical wires overhead.

A Toronto streetcar:


A long-defunct Halifax electric trolley, taken out of service at the end of 1969:

andys120

I rode a "trolley" in Brooklyn NY when I was a kid. Those Brooklyn trolleys had steel wheels and ran on rails and took power from overhead wires. This would have been mid-1950s IIRC. I doubt there were any left in the NYC area by 1960. m Even the rails were gone.

andys120

tmart

58 Ford Country Squire.

stickguy

it always amazing me how drastically styling changed from the 57-58 era to 60-62 is. So 2-5 years, which today might be a small mid-model lifespan refresh. Heck, these days, looking at a car from 10 years ago you don't even notice the age difference.

xwesx

magnette said:

@xwesx
The buildings are pretty old.


In East Grinstead the whole street is between 1500 & 1650 I think except the little shop with the red striped awning which may be about 1750.

EDIT - I've just looked at the register of Listed (Protected ) buildings and all those timbered fronted ones are only of mid 1700's - I had thought they were older.

In Tavistock the building is the Town Hall and is much more modern - it is in Victorian Gothic style and was completed in 1864

.

I like that... "Much more modern (1864)." True, for sure, but still somewhat of a perspective shock. Probably the oldest building in which I've been inside is the United Methodist church in Meadville, Pennsylvania. It was built in 1803.

I was thinking the Grinstead buildings had an older look about them than 1700s too, but, still, that's a lot of time! Thanks for taking the time to share!