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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    I believe that’s a Fiat 124 sedan in the rear, next to a Datsun 411.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    fintail said:

    The BL car is a BMC car, MG 1100, ADO16

    Yup, sold only as an MG1100 or Austin America in the USDM and overseas as under the panoply of BMC brand names. Generically it's an ADO16.

    That leaves the dark colored cars in center pic. The 4-door behind the Beetle was made in nearly as many countries and sold nearly as many units as the VW.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,448
    isn't that the FIAT?

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    stickguy said:

    the Fairmont came with a 302 option at least some years. That would have been pretty energetic in something that light.

    I know it was offered as a '78. I had just scored my first honest-to-god full-time job about 100 miles from my home town, with an interstate connecting them. I was hot and bothered to trade my Volvo in on a car with serious performance, but for some reason liked the comfort of a sedan. I figured that with the light body and the 302 it would really move. I got dissuaded by a work chum who convinced me that the frame would twist like a pretzel under that amount of power. I didn't like the Nova, and the performance Mopar's were long gone. Anyway, I passed, but I've always wondered ....

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    Same platforms as used for the Fox Mustangs, so the 302 (especially in those choked-down years) would likely not have been a problem. But those early Fairmonts were very lightly-built and tinny.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    In my '77, the 302 was rated at 135 HP. Pretty quick with a manual transmission. I'm sure with a 3-speed automatic, it would have been meh. Though still way better than the straight six.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    @ab348

    Right at the tail end of the Halifax view there is an Austin Cambridge A60 - its mostly obscured by the (British) Ford Zephyr
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    magnette said:

    @ab348

    Right at the tail end of the Halifax view there is an Austin Cambridge A60 - its mostly obscured by the (British) Ford Zephyr

    Yes. Interesting that of the 13 cars shown in whole or in part, there were 4 from Britain.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited February 2024
    ab348 said:

    I believe that’s a Fiat 124 sedan in the rear, next to a Datsun 411.


    You're right. The Fiat 124 sold in modest numbers in the US. It's sporty derivatives the 124 Sport Coupeand 124 Sport Spider were more successful here IIRC. Versions of the sedan were made all over the world, including Turkey, Russia, Argentina, Poland and more and sold in the millions. Many are still running today I'd bet.




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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    edited February 2024
    Seattle, January 14 1994 (30 years ago, that's vintage) - zooms well:



  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,448
    that depresses me, thinking of cars I bought as an adult are now vintage.

    ranger in the back row, or the white 2 door escort are probably the 2 newest models. though might be a newer T Bird opposite the white Jetta 4 door, next to an 80s Escort.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,032
    '90 or '91 Accord on the left - they changed the tail light design for '92 (we had a '92, and I got a '93 when I moved to Denver)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    I believe on 92-93 Accords the Accord badge moved to the trunklid as well.

    Between the Jetta and Escort is a Tempo, appears to be a 1985 model. Between the Ranger and Bird is another Tempo, an 86-87. Today several of those cars are seldom-seen - early Tempos are pretty scarce, those Escorts and Jettas are getting uncommon, and even the Bird is getting a little rare. Those Accords are still out there anyway.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited February 2024
    'Burbs>


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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    I'm not sure but I think the car in front of the garage is a ca. 1950 Oldsmobile. Anyone recognize those plates?

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,125
    I'm curious what those houses look like now. Any idea where they are?
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    License plate looks like possibly New Jersey. They had a yellowish-white on black plate in that style in the late 40s.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,032
    I figured it could be Levittown, NY.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    Looks like a 47-48 Mercury at right.

    Not sure if Levittown did the dormer thing, but of that era for sure.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Michaell said:

    I figured it could be Levittown, NY.

    Unlikely I've never seen a NY plate that was white on black. I think '7-'48 Merc is about right. Car on left is a '49-'50ish Pontiac (chrome stripes on trunk).

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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    In the 1940's and early 1950's, N.J. had that style of licence plates, letter over letter followed by two numbers.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    Commenters on the original source site stated the newish subdivision was indeed in New Jersey, though they were not able to ID its location specifically.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,125
    Willys Aero Ace, '53-ish? Can't think of any other make that had that distinctive rear fender bump.
  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    1952 Willys Aero Eagle.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    Reminiscent of the Aero Lark driven by the Western Union guy in BTTF II



  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    A fantastic concert in Seattle, August 8 1977, zooms fine:


  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,448
    was it on Saturday night, Saturday night?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,448
    Pinto wagon, 4 door Granada, and a white early Corolla driving away.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited February 2024
    texases said:

    Willys Aero Ace, '53-ish? Can't think of any other make that had that distinctive rear fender bump.

    1955-6 Pontiac had a larger bump. 1954 Buick as well had a lump on the fender.





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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    August 8, 1977 - Monday.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    fintail said:

    A fantastic concert in Seattle, August 8 1977, zooms fine:


    In 1977, I saw Led Zeppelin on consecutive nights.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,448
    edited February 2024

    August 8, 1977 - Monday.

    https://youtu.be/7BKKaKT_dtM

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    The great classic album "Live at the Paramount" by the Guess Who was recorded there 5 years earlier on May 22, 1972. One of my favorites from them, "Runnin' Back to Saskatoon", is from that concert, along with a prototypical '70s concert cut that runs over 16 minutes in length of "American Woman".

    A couple of decades ago now when I visited Seattle I stayed at the Paramount Hotel just down the hill from there.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    The Willys Aero Ace is a '54. I don't know how it might be different from an earlier MY.

    Some new Wranglers are being sold with the "Willys" name on the hood. I wonder how many Jeep buyers have ever even heard of Willys Auto.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited February 2024
    Lots of early 50s Iron in this shot>



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    I make out a ten or eleven year spread between the oldest and newest cars.

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402

    56 Ford, 49 Ford Woody, 52 Ford, possibly a 57 Ford wagon.

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,125

    texases said:

    Willys Aero Ace, '53-ish? Can't think of any other make that had that distinctive rear fender bump.

    1955-6 Pontiac had a larger bump. 1954 Buick as well had a lump on the fender.





    True, but only the Wyllis has that bump dropping back down, that's what I find distinctive.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    56 white Lincoln closer the the 57 Ford wagon.
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    @andys120 - At Joe's Wood3hed,,,

    The black and red Desoto in the foreground is, I think, a 57 model,

    Right back in the rear - obscuring the cream Lincoln is a Nash which must be about 1948
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    I saw Led Zeppelin in 1975 I think - Earls Court London.
    Also Frank Zappa in London -I think it was 1976.

    Didn't hear anything for a week after either event...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    These two cars were both sold here as oddities. In each case they were only sold for a comparatively short period. - in each case you can see the badge but they aren't really what they seem.

    This one was a badge-engineered version which was otherwise sold as a different make in Britain.



    This second one was an unsuccessful attempt to use one model range -which was technically advanced - to sell a completely different car underneath!





  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    The top picture is what was sold in Canada around 1970 or so as the Sunbeam Arrow. I gather that it carried on for many years after it’s demise in most markets with a Middle East-built variant. Oddly enough, Sunbeams sold here around that period had a pretty decent reputation compared to other British makes.

    On the bottom pic of the Austin, I will guess it might be a 3 Litre but am not confident. BL used a similar greenhouse on many of its cars like the 1800 Landcrab and others, but I can tell that isn’t an 1800.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    I am thinking the lower car is a 3 Litre too - "landcrab with a boot".

    MB W114 coupe at right in the background.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    magnette said:

    @andys120 - At Joe's Wood3hed,,,

    The black and red Desoto in the foreground is, I think, a 57 model,

    You're right about it being a DeSoto. but i think it's M Y1958. 4 headlights=1958., newest car in the pic.


    Right back in the rear - obscuring the cream Lincoln is a Nash which must be about 1948 .

    Can 't be a '48 that "Airflyte" style wasn't adopted until 1951.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,125
    That '49 Ford wagon sure has an oddly-sized windshield. The sedan versions' roof must be lower, they don't have those odd proportions.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    texases said:

    That '49 Ford wagon sure has an oddly-sized windshield. The sedan versions' roof must be lower, they don't have those odd proportions.

    Sedans did have a noticeable lower roofline probably because stylists preferred it.



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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited February 2024
    @ab348
    Yes, the first picture is a Sunbeam but it was never sold in the UK as a Sunbeam Arrow.

    It is Sunbeam Vogue.

    In early 1970 Rootes Group stopped marketing the Singer brand, and they were left with a portion of their dealers who were Singer dealers, and whilst they still had the Singer versions of the Imp they had nothing to replace the Singer Vogue, which was an upmarket Hillman Hunter - nor the Singer Gazelle - a deluxe Hillman Minx.

    So they launched a Singer Vogue - in saloon and Estate versions, to fill the gaps.

    This only lasted from April to August 1970 as they then introduced a facelifted Hillman Hunter and the vogue was no more.

    They only sold it in the UK and Ireland (this one is actually registered in Dublin) and they sold only a couple of thousand in that time.

    The other car is indeed an Austin 3-litre which to all appearances is an 1800 with a boot but it was really a different model underneath.

    It had an inline six cylinder engine (the same one as used in the short-lived MGC, but de-tuned) and even more surprisingly it was not FWD - it had rear wheel drive!


    It did have the fluid (Hydrolastic) suspension, but it never caught on and was only sold from early 1969 to early 1971.

    They made 9,900 of them which was a lot less than the monthly sales of the 1800 range...
  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    The Willys has no B pillar making it the Aero Eagle.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    Seattle, 1959 perhaps, zooms well:


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