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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,969
    That's purty... :)

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Remember this one?>



    The new issue of Automobile sez that a '62 T-Bird Sports Roadster just went for almost $75K at auction in London. I used to think that Euros could tell the difference between a real sports car and a pretend one. :o

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Well, there are Europeans and there are Britons, not really the same thing. Although there's a chance it went to Sweden, where American cars of that era are beloved. All it takes is two guys with ego, maybe some booze, and more money than sense.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    That raises a question for me. I seem to recall that some of the Thunderbirds were body on frame. That was one of the reasons that such a wide range of bodies could be engineered onto the same basic structure for US cars up to the 1960's. What was the last US car to be built on a frame?

    Cheers

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Maybe Ford Panther platform? Made through 2011.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    fintail said:

    Maybe Ford Panther platform? Made through 2011.

    The Panthers are a good example of why they don't do the BOF construction any more. Interior room is pretty poor for the massive footprint of those cars.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    andys120 said:


    G'day

    Recent Toyota Corolla wagon. However looks a bit different to ones I have seen generally in Asia, so possibly a Japanese Domestic Market special. There are some taxing issues which sometimes change what they sell there.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    "Toyota Corolla Fielder G" according to the hatch. But I can't make out what's in red script after the "G". It continues the recent Toyota blocky taillights. Not sure why they like them...
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    texases said:

    "Toyota Corolla Fielder G" according to the hatch. But I can't make out what's in red script after the "G". It continues the recent Toyota blocky taillights. Not sure why they like them...

    Corolla Fielder, The text to the right of "G" is Aerotourer. I had to blow the picture way up.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    After the G in red - AEROTOURER
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Apparently the Toyota Corolla Fielder is a very popular JDM car.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    I am surprised it wasn't something like this - in my eyes, this defines Toyota for most of the past quarter century or so:

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    fintail said:

    I am surprised it wasn't something like this - in my eyes, this defines Toyota for most of the past quarter century or so:

    image

    G'day

    Well, those are the tail lights of a Carina. However, the existence of an "Exciting Version" was news to me. Apparently the ED designation refers to Exciting Dressy, a different way of saying Sport Luxury!

    Reminds me of the quite remarkable translation of Japanese concepts, expressed in very florid language, into English and applied to T-shirts by some Japanese entrepeneurs. I was truly surprised to read a Japanese cyclist's T Shirt in New Zealand in 1988, discovering, amongst other gems, that he would " ride like the wind through the falling autumn leaves". The shirt ran to about 1,000 words but I was so stunned that I only caught a few phrases! Heavens knows what the earthy New Zealand sheep farmers thought!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Yep, a later 90s Carina. It sums up Toyota attempts at sport when the brand went beige (and wildly profitable, of course). Most of the market falls for it. Not grounded to the ground yet, but getting there.

    There's a term for weirdo Japanese English - "Engrish". There's even a website devoted to it



    G'day

    Well, those are the tail lights of a Carina. However, the existence of an "Exciting Version" was news to me. Apparently the ED designation refers to Exciting Dressy, a different way of saying Sport Luxury!

    Reminds me of the quite remarkable translation of Japanese concepts

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    A few more in our continuing tree series:


  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    A few more in our continuing tree series:


    1950-ish Oldsmobile 88 much like the one on the lower right of this poster >


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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399
    andys120 said:


    67 Ford Fairlane 500XL
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That Olds musta been there a long time--that's a pretty fair size tree!
    andys120 said:

    A few more in our continuing tree series:


    1950-ish Oldsmobile 88 much like the one on the lower right of this poster >


  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670


    67 Ford Fairlane 500XL

    Prezactly, 238CID V8 powered.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,732
    @andys120, How about a 289 V8?
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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399
    andys120 said:



    67 Ford Fairlane 500XL

    Prezactly, 238CID V8 powered.

    According to the front fender it has a 289, not a 238.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    You guys can spot a typo a mile away.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,732
    @andys120, Now you went and posted the whole wrong picture. HA HA :)
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    It's a Pontiac Bonneville. SSE? bad on years but I will guess 1992.

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,598

    @andys120, How about a 289 V8?

    That's certainly right, but I would have sworn that 289 badges were blue.

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,024

    A few more in our continuing tree series:


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    I'd love to know the story behind that pic. I think it's fake. For one thing, the tires on that car look like they still have air in them. For another, a tree will NOT grow straight up through it like that and bend the hood back. Rather, it would grow at an angle, working its way around the hood. I guess it's possible though, that someone pulled the hood back so the tree could grow up. And, that looks like a poplar tree...those do grow alarmingly fast.

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited December 2014
    A friend of mine put the pic into Photoshop and enlarged it 3,000%. He says if it's 'shopped, they did a really good job. He noted that the leaves going over the hood (and rear) of the car are small and blend in with the car well - lot of work to do that plus do it so that no hard edges would be left on those pixels. Perhaps an ad agency paid for those hours (days?) of work.

    Maybe they mowed around it and aired up the tires for the photo session?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    edited December 2014
    I don't think it's a 'shop, but I suspect it isn't accidental, either. Someone maybe had fun with a sapling and an old car.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Gee,you folk are kind to your squirrels.

    Cheers


  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,708
    andys120 said:


    Bonneville SSEi from the era when monochrome made everything euro-cool!

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Right front fender removed.
    Car pushed to the side.
    Fender replaced.
    (Note the diagonal position of the rear wheel indicating the car had movement to the side.)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Could be staged. The best way to know would be to examine the hood bolts and see if they've been loosened. If not, and if the hood is really crimped that far back like the lid on a tin can--well, that would require quite a bit of force.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670


    Bonneville SSEi from the era when monochrome made everything euro-cool!


    Yup, it's a 1987 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    AMX.

    Although I'm an AMC fan, I can't say I know enough to pin a year on it, though.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    edited December 2014
    I'm thinking '68 or '69, the '70 had a different hood...

    I remember going to a new car show in '69 or so, AMC had a display with a contest: match the shift points on an audio tape of an AMX accelerating through the gears. They had a half-dozen shifters mounted on a panel, and I won! The practice session...blew a shift on the 'real' session...looking back, I'd think the guy could have given a pre-teen an award...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited December 2014
    You're right Texases, it's a 1969 AMC AMX. You don't see many of those, I'm not particularly an AMX fan but I must say the styling has held up well.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Ooh, most unfortunate color however. That'll cost a significant loss in resale value.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    I'd go with that color over this "AMX":

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    texases said:

    I'd go with that color over this "AMX":

    I'm a littlefuzzy on late AMCs but IIRC that's a mid-70s rendition of the AMC Javelin which they branded as a "Javelin AMX". It just goes to show that trashing your own nomenclature convention is nothing new. :'(

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    Close, that photo's of a 1977 Hornet "AMX", a trim pack you could get with the I6...not any different than Pontiac with their "GTO" of that era, I guess.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    It must be Japanese, that's all I can tell.
    andys120 said:


  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Or you could try on a few different colors and decide later :)


  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    Or you could try on a few different colors and decide later :)


    Cute, that's an AMX wearing a variation of the racing livery worn by the Penske Javelins in the Trans-AM Series. Penske's Mark Donohue drove this Javelin SST to the T-A champioship in '71>



    The 60s-70s Trans-AM was a high water mark in US manufacturer involvement in road racing.


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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Donahue. Now there was a driver.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    andys120 said:



    G'day

    I think one of these popped up a year or two back .While it looks a lot like a Renault, it is the Japanese version, a Hino Contessa 1300

    Cheers

    Graham
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