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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,762
    man, i really really like that car. Never seen it before, but that just looks great to me.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,539
    I had a hornet hatchback of that vintage. Green too! Not the worst car I ever owned. But that bar is pretty low.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,539
    needs a quick buff.


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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    stickguy said:

    needs a quick buff.


    G'day

    It would definitely be worth getting a respray!

    1957ish Alfa Romeo Giulieta Sprint. I think that it was a Bertone body, but there were some specials, including something by Zagato.

    Well restored, they are worth a lot!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,528
    Alfa makes great looking coupes...

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    You can always tell when a car has a great design, if you can strip it of paint, and even of some parts, and it still looks pretty.

    If that's a '57, it is EXTRA valuable because that's the cut-off date for invitations to many European historical race re-creations. 1957 is an E ticket to those events.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,135
    Uh-oh, Shifty, you're dating yourself...."E ticket"...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Oops....is that something only your parents would say? Damn, it's happening to me, no matter how I try to keep up.

    But...but....even as late as 2010 the video game " Disney Epic Mickey" used E-tickets!

    HEY, I KNEW THAT! Now you just go from ride to ride at Disneyland.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,135
    Here's the new "E ticket"

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,673
    edited December 2014
    . I think that it was a Bertone body, but there were some specials, including something by Zagato.

    That's right Graham, that is a Bertone body. As were most of the later Giulia (1960s) coupes.



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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,539
    BTW, Graham nailed the details perfectly.

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    stickguy said:

    BTW, Graham nailed the details perfectly.

    G'day

    I went searching for the even cuter version


    Cheers

    Graham
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Now for something completely different



    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,673
    grahampeters said:

    G'day

    Now for something completely different



    Cheers

    Graham

    I suspect there's a Fiat 500 or 600 hiding under that.

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    No Italian ancestry!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,539
    not an Elva Courier, is it?

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Approximately similar era, but not an Elva

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,673
    Perhaps your little RHD Oz-mobile is based on an original Mini chassis.

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    edited December 2014
    G'day

    No Mini ancestry, although some European. It was a series production vehicle with about 700 examples produced between 1958 and 1961 in Sydney

    Cheers

    Graham
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited December 2014
    Some Opel underpinnings? Reminds me of an Opel GT without a top, though the GT was late 60s.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    This is proving a good deal harder than I expected.

    The chassis was produced by Glas in Dingolfing, but the body in Punchbowl, a suburb of Sydney,

    Cheers

    Graham
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Another mystery from the early 1950s



    Cheers

    Graham
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,528
    I think that's a Raleigh 10-speed. :D

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited December 2014
    Ridden by Fausto Coppi, '52 Tour de France. :p
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Looks like an Alfa grille shape.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,673
    edited December 2014


    Another mystery from the early 1950s

    Alfa-Romeo AR52 Matta , early 1950s

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The Alfa Mat? Odd name.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    edited December 2014
    G'day

    Well, that is doing better. Fausto Coppi in 1952 is correct. Not sure about the bike but definitely an Alfa for the jeep like vehicle.

    This was the Alfa Romeo AR 52 (military version AR51) which was developed for the Italian Army as a replacement for the WW 2 Willys Jeep. The first prototype actually just slipped an Alfa 1900 engine into a Willys chassis. Initially geared too high, it was refined a bit and included an odd arrangement to control a limited slip diff, with a separate lever near the gear stick which could be held to limit slip, but not lock the differential.

    The Matta name translates roughly as "Old Mad Woman" given its off road ability, promoted with stunts like driving it up steep stairs.

    It was supposed to have cost about three times more than the Fiat Campagnola. Not surprisingly, orders dried up after the initial order. There is something of an echo of the Austin Champ which the British Army used, with similar excessive cost (that sported a Rolls Royce engine) in the early 1950s.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    grahampeters said:

    G'day

    Now for something completely different



    Cheers

    Graham

    G'day

    We don't seem to be making massive progress here, possibly reflecting the rarity of this little gem.

    In the late 1950s a Sydney car dealer, Bill Buckle saw the attractions of the German Goggomobil, produced in Dingolfing by Hans Glas. For sundry taxation reasons, it was preferable to import the chassis, bare, to Australia and wrap them in a cute fibreglass body in a factory in Punchbowl, a suburb of Sydney.

    I have mentioned the story on these pages before, but as a small, but inquisitive, boy I was poking around the garage of an equally inquisitive neighbouring small boy early one morning (Small boys rise early), past a massive train set, fishing gear, a welding kit and such like, when we found a dusty Goggomobil Dart in this distinctive green colour. His dad was a professional fisherman - not particularly wealthy - and I have often pondered how he came by this oddity.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,673
    Batmobile?>


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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    andys120 said:

    Batmobile?>


    G'day

    Not sure what it is but it is so wonderfully extravagant that I am guessing 1950's French. Maybe a Delahaye or Delage.

    You have got to love the rear overhang

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,673
    grahampeters said:

    andys120 said:

    Batmobile?>


    G'day

    Not sure what it is but it is so wonderfully extravagant that I am guessing 1950's French. Maybe a Delahaye or Delage.

    You have got to love the rear overhang

    Cheers

    Graham
    You have the right idea Graham but your calendar is a little off. The extravagant, art-deco inspired designs of French coachbuilders had mostly disappeared after the early 50s. Like the great marques Delage, Delahaye, Bugatti and others they fell victim to heavy taxation on large displacement engines and large automobiles. The car shown was styled by Jacques Saoutchik
    on one of the most popular French luxury/sports cars of the postwar era. It is a 1947 model.

    Anyone?

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's a Talbot Lago. I had to look up the model though--I think it was called a T-26.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    Reminds me of this from about a decade earlier:

    image
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,214
    Is that the "Count Troski" MB?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,673
    edited December 2014
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    That's a Talbot Lago. I had to look up the model though--I think it was called a T-26.

    That's right Shifty, it's a 1947 Talbot-Lago T26. This particular car seems to have had a wide variety of carrouserie do styling for it. Here's one from a Brussels coach house, Oblin, that looks like an early Ferrari>


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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Looks like a Ferrari Europa 202---the latter being much nice to look at than to drive.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,522
    That one is a 540K "Autobahn Kourier", I think they made a few.

    The "Count Trossi" car is very similar looking, but several years older, based on the SSK:

    image
    laurasdada said:

    Is that the "Count Troski" MB?

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,214
    Thanks. I'm guessing they're both just out of reach, cost-wise, for me... :D

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    edited December 2014

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    2015 e-Golf. Oh the irony of the RAM tow vehicle.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited December 2014
    Yep.

    Got range? B)

    At least it's getting towed with an EcoDiesel.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited December 2014
    People run out of electricity for the same reason they run out of gas---some folks just like to push their luck.

    Speaking of something you're likely to push:


  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    People run out of electricity for the same reason they run out of gas---some folks just like to push their luck.

    Speaking of something you're likely to push:


    G'day

    The overall lines are late 40s Italian and wheels and proportions look like a Fiat. Uneven shadow lines suggest hand formed, maybe aluminium. I don' t think it is Cisitalia although the lines are muddied enough for it to be..

    Maybe a coachbuilt Fiat special.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited December 2014
    pretty close on the Fiat---good eye. This is a Fiat 1100S and it is claimed by Fiat that they made about 400 of them. It wasn't a farmed out project--Fiat did the bodywork in house, but of course no doubt it was custom work.

    This little car actually came out 2, 3 and 4 in the Mille Miglia! (1947 methinks). Top speed was about 100 mph, pretty good for that little powerplant.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    edited December 2014
    FAR FROM WHAT YOU THINK

    G'day

    I have a particular fondness for Pininfarina designs and happened upon this relative in a most unexpected place. Apparently very well regarded as a Taxi.




    Cheers

    Graham
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    edited December 2014
    CLOSER TO HOME

    G'day

    I saw a beautiful example of this (possibly this very car) yesterday and it kept a very respectable100kph for about 70km before I pulled off.



    Cheers

    Graham

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,673
    edited December 2014
    grahampeters said:

    CLOSER TO HOME

    G'day

    I saw a beautiful example of this (possibly this very car) yesterday and it kept a very respectable100kph for about 70km before I pulled off.



    Cheers

    Graham

    Graham, that's an Austin Cambridge (A55?) ca. 1959-60 or something related. Those were obviously heavily influenced by US styling. They might not look like much to us now but they must have seemed quite wonderful to a car buying public used to cars like this>



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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    grahampeters said:

    FAR FROM WHAT YOU THINK

    G'day

    I have a particular fondness for Pininfarina designs and happened upon this relative in a most unexpected place. Apparently very well regarded as a Taxi.




    Cheers

    Graham


    Grahan

    The green / white A55 lookalike isn't quite that is it? Is this an Argentinian DiTella 1500 - basically a RIley 4/68 with bits off other BMC types? They even made a pick-up version of those.



  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    grahampeters said:

    CLOSER TO HOME

    G'day

    I saw a beautiful example of this (possibly this very car) yesterday and it kept a very respectable100kph for about 70km before I pulled off.



    Cheers

    Graham

    This one is a Holden FB - another car I've never seen in the metal... Actually I think I've only seen two Holdens at all - an EH used to turn up at car shows in London about 20 years ago, another Holden - a bigger 70's one - was in Malta some years back.
    Otherwise Holden are virtually unknown in UK - although there was a Holden Corsa type thing which someone was using for rallying - there was a magazine article about it some years ago - it had a quicker engine than the Euro version - I haven't actually seen that though. As far as I am aware the Australian High Commission in London hasn't ever used them as official cars - certainly I've never seen one here.
    Dud see a couple of Holden bodied cars though - a Vauxhall Wyvern convertible at the Birmingham Classic car show a few years back and I think a prewar Buick or Chevy with Holden body at Essen once.
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