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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,599
    lostwrench1 said:

    Correct, the hood scoops make it a GTO.

    Oh, good point.

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,400
    What abut the three Cobras?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited July 2015
    tmart said:

    What abut the three Cobras?

    The Cobras are '64/'65 Shelby factory race cars being off-loaded prior to their participation in the Speed Weeks races at Nassau, at that time a major event in sports car and prototype racing. The FIA Cobras used to contest the GT championship featured a number of modifications from production street trim but utilized uprated versions of the 289 CID small block V8 seen in street Cobras and Mustangs. By the time they started selling out Cobras with the 427 bug-block Shelby's racing focus had shifted to the Ford GT40.

    Shelby's Cobra roadsters and coupes won the FIA Grand Touring for 1965

    BTW-The car ferry shown is a converted WWII Landing Ship Tank (LST)

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,111
    Not too hard to guess, what do you think?
    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/35969/general/x/old-car-from-1930s#latest
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That was a little harder than it looked.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited August 2015

  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,400
    Nash Metropolitan?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    No, but the right company
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,400
    Nash Ambassador or a Rambler?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Rambler, yes. Any idea what year?
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,400
    As a WAG, 57?
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,025
    edited August 2015
    That's a Rambler American, the small one on the stubby ~100" wheelbase, but the closest I can tell is '58-60.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    1958 is correct, but 1957 is pretty close :)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    edited August 2015
    '58-'59 corvette

    (I first said '59 but not sure if there is any difference with the '58 and since the Nash was a '58.... ?)

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited August 2015
    close, but nope. I can see why you might miss this because you can't see the hood.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    i adjusted my answer above. does that help?

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yep. It's a 1958 Corvette "barn find" I stumbled upon recently.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,599
    andys120 said:


    Unless my eyes fail me (not unknown) it is a gen 2 Corvair ('65 - '69); a Corsa I believe. I can't narrow down the year except to say that I think the Corsa was dropped after '67 or so.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,404
    no side markers, so that makes it a 67 or earlier, right?

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  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    Yep. It's a 1958 Corvette "barn find" I stumbled upon recently.

    Well, a '58 chevy ought to be worth a couple hundred bucks anyway...

    Gonna buy it?

    B)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Nah. I'm done pouring money into shabby cars that I could just save up and buy completed, usually at far less cost. Besides, it's a 3-speed and doesn't have the correct engine. There was also an E Type Coupe for around $30K, but gee, by the time you go through an E Type Jaguar (and you have to do it right to do it justice), you're in another $65K, to say nothing of a lot of work. I suppose one can take these barn finds and clean 'em up and flip 'em as is but I'm in no position to roll $30K dice in the hope of making 10-15%. Dealers can store 'em in the back room, advertise them for a year if they have to. There's always one person out there willing to pay more than a car is worth.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,111
    But...that Corvette has the ultra-rare front-mounted 'Continental Kit'... ;)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited August 2015
    Even rarer, it has a 1957 265 cid engine in it from a passenger car. It's also on a "no carb" diet apparently.

    The E Type looked more promising but it hasn't run in 25 years and nobody knows anything about the engine/transmission. Kinda dinged up body but no rust and it's all there. Totally restored, these cars can bring $100K.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Next to it is a pretty demolished '36 Chevy coupe---probably good body tub for a hot rod.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    E type does look pretty solid, at least from that angle. Nice color, too. But, yeah, $30k is pretty dear for such a thing.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    It's hard to know anymore. Prices are so crazy. You do the math and it seems like it can't work out, and then someone jumps in anyway. I think this is more about "musical chairs". Each new party grabs the "barn find" and runs with it and passes it on to someone else until the music stops and someone is left holding a car that isn't even remotely worth restoring at that asking price. It's irrational and I'm not comfortable in any irrational market.

    You hear about the "barn finds" that paid off, but you never hear about the disasters that didn't. "Everyone is a genius in a bull market", as they say.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,111
    One show that seems to make it clear what it costs to actually restore a car is "Fantom Works". While they don't give the exact total, they give the parts $$ and the total hours billed. One guy paid something crazy to get his pet '68 Mustang coupe restored, $60k - $80k. No artificial budgets, like on my other favorite "Wheeler Dealers".
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    You can cut a lot of corners....not restore the frame underneath (just clean and paint it with a jiggle can), dye the leather seats (or install vinyl) , buy cheap tires, use non-stock exhaust, cheap paint job, lots of undercoating. What's hard to cheat on is pitted chrome and pot metal.
  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    You can cut a lot of corners....not restore the frame underneath (just clean and paint it with a jiggle can), dye the leather seats (or install vinyl) , buy cheap tires, use non-stock exhaust, cheap paint job, lots of undercoating. What's hard to cheat on is pitted chrome and pot metal.

    If you're referring to the Jag, wouldn't those be "tyres"?

    :D
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Indeed. And a boot and a bonnet and a spanner. There's a new song in there somewhere.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited August 2015
    Nobody will probably guess this one so I'll tell you. It's the remains of a 1947 Lincoln Continental V-12.


  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,121
    You spoiled it!! I knew that one.. B)

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited August 2015
    Sure you did! OK wise guy, here's another hard one: HINT--British. Actually the photo is enough to identify the car quite accurately.


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    Bugeye Sprite?
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    Sure you did! OK wise guy, here's another hard one: HINT--British. Actually the photo is enough to identify the car quite accurately.


  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yep, good eye. You can tell by the way the inner fender panels look.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,644
    Lotus Esprit - mid to late 80's, I would guess.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    AND it's not on fire! Must be a good one.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    HA!
    Only because it is not running.

    Seriously, though, that looks REALLY nice.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited August 2015
    A before and after shot?










  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,121
    So.... 30% of all Lotus Esprit catch fire, and you think that's a trend? :p

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I'm just a Lotus hater I guess, huh? Those are all photo-shopped and I made the whole thing up. :p
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,111
    edited August 2015
    Yep, somehow you 'shopped all those burning Ferraris and Lambos to look like Lotuseseses :D
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,111
    1972-ish Maserati Urraco?
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Pretty sure it is a Lamborghini Urraco, the cheaper line from the 1970's intended to compete with the Ferrari Dino. I am pretty sure that the tail lights are lift from a contemporary Fiat

    Cheers

    Graham
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,111
    Yes, Lamborghini. I wasn't thinking...
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