Mystery car pix

Mr_Shiftright

I suspect they didn't want to compete with an American "icon", especially one with military heritage.
It's like competing with Harley Davidson (which the Japanese do, but I have no idea how successfully).

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

Is that a nissan patrol?

Yup, to be exact it's a 1977 Nissan Patrol LG60.

You know it's a mystery to me why Nissan or Toyota gave up on building a direct competitor to the hot-selling Wrangler. Surely there are many who would appreciate the improvement in reliability.

robr2

I think it had more to do with the 25% chicken tax that was applied to the 2 door Patrol and Land Cruiser,

Mr_Shiftright

Oh yeah I forgot about that....another word for trade embargo. So much for "free market".

kyfdx

robr2 said:

I think it had more to do with the 25% chicken tax that was applied to the 2 door Patrol and Land Cruiser,

Yup... and, that's how the 4-door SUV market was born..

stever

Fins are back!

texases

2016 Prius. As much as I disagree with those who hate on the Prius, this new one is WAY overstyled, IMO...

stever

If we get one, I may have to steal @fintail's name, lol.

Toyota Unveils 2016 Prius: 55-60 MPG and Shades of Mirai

stever

Another rear shot.

texases

That's not too bad, but the front around the headlights is kinda crazy:

stever

I'm really curious to see if they lose cargo space with the swoopier looking hatch back there.

Eyeballed a Honda Crosstour yesterday and the hatch was a bit shallow but sure looked like it would swallow a bunch of gear.

Michaell

stever said:

I'm really curious to see if they lose cargo space with the swoopier looking hatch back there.

Eyeballed a Honda Crosstour yesterday and the hatch was a bit shallow but sure looked like it would swallow a bunch of gear.

@stever - I know it's a bit larger than you are looking for, but I'm finding that the wife's Outback can haul an immense amount of stuff with the rear seats folded down.

Wife and daughter picked up a new dresser from Pier 1 yesterday and it fit in the back with just a little bit of room to spare.

stever

Sweet. Not really shopping Subarus this time around, but I think I'd prefer the slightly taller ingress of a Forester.

fintail

Due to the pseudo-spoiler, those aren't fins. Just likely very expensive tail lights.

Man, in terms of styling for the dollar, that thing will be a bargain. So overdone. Styling wise, it is a flamboyant disaster.

kyfdx

fintail said:

Due to the pseudo-spoiler, those aren't fins. Just likely very expensive tail lights.

Man, in terms of styling for the dollar, that thing will be a bargain. So overdone. Styling wise, it is a flamboyant disaster.

Nice marketing angle: Get the most styling for your dollar!

bhill2

kyfdx said:

fintail said:

Due to the pseudo-spoiler, those aren't fins. Just likely very expensive tail lights.

Man, in terms of styling for the dollar, that thing will be a bargain. So overdone. Styling wise, it is a flamboyant disaster.

Nice marketing angle: Get the most styling for your dollar!

Hey, basically that motto worked for Detroit in the late '50s and the '60s. And this Prius is causing me flashbacks to that era at its worst.

stever

This pic made me flash on chromy old Buicks.

fintail

I think the big 3 tried this in the late 50s. Today seems to be 1958 for Toyolex.

kyfdx said:

Nice marketing angle: Get the most styling for your dollar!

Mr_Shiftright

Could be that this Prius styling is devilishly clever....how to make the un-hip feel hip without actually being hip.

(is it not hip to use the word hip anymore. I fear I've blundered...)

odie6l

stever said:

Eyeballed a Honda Crosstour yesterday and the hatch was a bit shallow but sure looked like it would swallow a bunch of gear.

My wife has a Crosstour. There is not as much room as you would think back there.

Odie

odie6l

Here's a good one for you all. Bonus points for the type of bikes.


Odie

stever

We called 'em banana bikes. None in my neighborhood had the big "racing slicks" on the back though.

lostwrench1

1955 Chevy.

robr2

I believe the bike on the left is a Ross Apollo.

stickguy

The cool kids had that style bike with a mini fron tire, chopper style v

stever

robr2 said:

I believe the bike on the left is a Ross Apollo.

Never saw one in person but remember other pics of it back in the day. Does that mean the one on the right is a Schwinn? They really need some streamers hanging off the bar ends.

fintail

I'd guess Schwinn Stingrays. Maybe a case of being over-accessorized.

kyfdx

Those are obviously adult ridden, given how high the seat is..

When I was 9 yrs old (a long, long time ago), I got a new Schwinn Stingray for my birthday. It was gold metallic with a speedometer and battery horn... lol.

I loved that bike.. but, rode it to school one day, and forgot about it. When I went back at 5:00 pm, it was gone...

robr2

stever said:

robr2 said:

I believe the bike on the left is a Ross Apollo.

Never saw one in person but remember other pics of it back in the day. Does that mean the one on the right is a Schwinn? They really need some streamers hanging off the bar ends.

It could be. It's a 5 speed but I don't see the shifter that's usually on the top bar.

stever

Didn't see that either (had a Varsity for a few years).

berri

Do they even sell Schwinn bikes anymore. They were the Cadillac back when I was young. But if they make them today they are probably Chinese made junk

stever

Interesting, the brand is owned by a conglomerate out of Montreal. All production is Chinese (per Wiki, as usual). Waterford makes Paramounts in the US though.

robr2

berri said:

Do they even sell Schwinn bikes anymore. They were the Cadillac back when I was young. But if they make them today they are probably Chinese made junk

Schwinn is still around and offers two lines - one entry level sold through mass retailers and their signature series sold through bike dealers.

They are owned by Dorel which also owns Cannondale, Mongoose, and GT bike brands among others.

The only bikes made in the US are the ultra high end bikes in the multi thousand price point. Unfortunately, it's not profitable to manufacture low or mid range bicycles in North America since most of us aren't willing to spend the money that a US made bike would cost.

Waterford Cycles is owned by a member of the Schwinn family and they make bikes in the US. Their frames start at $1500 and fully outfitted at about $2000.

odie6l

Here is a better image of the Bikes. These along with the Mini is owned by a friend.
Left on top of the car is a '69 Ross Apollo Chopper, on Right is a '69 Raleigh Fireball 5spd.
@stever , @robr2 , @berri , @kyfdx , @fintail , @stickguy



Odie

stever

lol, you can definitely see the shifter on the Ross in that pic. Looks like the Raleigh shifter is on the handlebar stem. Thanks Odie!

odie6l

It's funny that the bikes took center stage with all the vehicles around the edge of the picture. LOL

Odie

andys120

Back to topic!>

slorenzen

andys120 said:

Back to topic!>

1965 Impala wagon, with the rear-facing back seat!

stever

Someone's bound to ask that we go back off-topic after that.

stever

robr2

stever said:

2016 Lincoln MKX

stever

Yep, the full pic with Matthew McConaughey approaching the car is here.

andys120

stever

Anyone else not able to see the pic? Here it is again, but in a static size. (And now I know where the '16 Prius got those fins).

fintail

I wasn't able to see it.

I spot a Lancer/Valiant to the right of the wagon that appears to have curtains. I think the smaller white sedan approaching from right is a Simca. I will leave the rest for others.

The Prius metric crapton of styling wishes it had real fins. I am waiting for Toyolex to bring them back.

stever said:

Anyone else not able to see the pic? Here it is again, but in a static size. (And now I know where the '16 Prius got those fins).

lostwrench1

1959 Chevy Wagon
1952 Ford Mainline
1957 Plymouth Savoy
1953 Chevy
1954 Buick
On Dodge street?
(I was not able to see the pic.)

andys120

fintail said:

I wasn't able to see it.

I spot a Lancer/Valiant to the right of the wagon that appears to have curtains. I think the smaller white sedan approaching from right is a Simca. I will leave the rest for others.

Those curtains are definitely not standard equipment but those three row wagons could carry nine adults or an entire team of Pop Warner kids.

The Simca is an Aronde, one of the most popular cars in France but rarely seen in the USA.

fintail

I saw this little thing in the parking lot of the local/regional concours this morning:

robr2

Lancia Flavia?

Mr_Shiftright

Yes a Flavia Vignale....only 640 made, although not outrageously valuable.

robr2

Mr_Shiftright said:

Yes a Flavia Vignale....only 640 made, although not outrageously valuable.

The only reason I knew is that I saw one in the October issue of Automobile this morning in the the Auction Results.

1964 Lancia Flavia Convertible
white over red
sold at $66,000 after undergoing a $100,000 restoration
pre-auction estimates were $35-45,000.

According to the article, it was one of 1,601 Vignale built convertibles.