Mystery car pix

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    Looks like a Swiss plate from Valais on the Cresta?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    edited November 2015
    Michaell said:

    Lada Samara?


    No, not a Lada. It is actually from Western Europe
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    fintail said:

    Looks like a Swiss plate from Valais on the Cresta?

    I wondered if it was Swiss- at that time the UK wasn't in the EEC - forerunner of the EU - but we were in EFTA which was basically a trade group for Britain and the other west European countries the French wouldn't let join the EEC, and I think EFTA included Switzerland, or at least had a reduced tariff barrier with it. British cars tended to self in the EFTA countries which were Scandinavia plus Austria, Spain Portugal and I think Switzerland.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    It reminds me of a Renault Fuego...am I close?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    I see something Italian and probably dangerously unreliable in the latest mystery car pic.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    It isn't French or Italian - although there was an Italian connection....
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,133
    edited November 2015
    Giugiaro?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Actually there was also a German connection. The original design, by Aldo Sessano, not Guigaro, was intended for a German car, but when that project didn't proceed this manufacturer bought the design, radically altered it in their own design studios, and then launched what you see here...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    I don't think the production line picture is producing a response. Its a SEAT 1200 - built in Spain and the first truly independent model - i.e. not a variation on a similar Fiat. They started to make these in 1974 and introduced a larger engine 1430 model in 1977.
    Originally Sessando de=signed a coupe for NSU - tone rear engined, based on their 1000/1200 range - but it didn't go ahead and SEAT bought the rights to it and developed it - initially they thought as a rear engined coupe based on the Fiat 850 equivalent floorpan - SEAT were building 850s in Spain - but decided instead to develop the car as a front engine model.
    It sold reasonably well in Spain and with more limited success in Germany, Benelux and I think in France for a few years.
    We never saw it here as no RHD.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    edited November 2015
    Another Euro coupe


  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,133
    edited November 2015
    Is that a DAF 44? Source of the CVT...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    texases said:

    Is that a DAF 44? Source of the CVT...


    Close enough - this one is a DAF 55 Coupe but indistingishable.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Another one



  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    A nice Morava L-200.
    Ooops, this isn't mystery aircraft pix.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    The Morava is a good clue actually.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672
    Mid 1960s Wartburg 311 Kombi?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    andys120 said:

    Mid 1960s Wartburg 311 Kombi?


    This is not a Wartburg.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    That's a Skoda, not sure if it was an Octavia or a numeric name.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    edited November 2015
    Yes - it's an Octavia Kombi.

    The plane was a Morava, and was registered in Czechoslovakia as well - OK was their code. I remember for years CSA, their national airline had a tail logo which read something like OKJet - it was on all their Illyushins and Tupolovs
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Another one - also grainy - sorry...


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    Lloyd Arabella?
    magnette said:

    Another one - also grainy - sorry...


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    I saw a few gnats similar to this in traffic today:

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  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    fintail said:

    I saw a few gnats similar to this in traffic today:

    image

    I don't see any golf clubs... :D
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    fintail said:

    Lloyd Arabella?

    magnette said:

    Another one - also grainy - sorry...


    You are getting good at these - clearly being in Europe has retuned you to smaller cars. Yes its a Lloyd Arabella.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    edited November 2015
    I think it is an Axiam - they can drive these tiny cars in much of Europe without a proper licence - it is considered like a moped.
    That doesn't apply in UK so they are much rarer and only really for little old ladies whereas in Germany when I went to the Frankfurt show in September they were pushing them at teenagers - complete with good iPhone links and pictures showing what room there was inside for the sort of things old ladies wouldn't be able to get up to...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672
    magnette said:

    fintail said:

    Lloyd Arabella?

    magnette said:

    Another one - also grainy - sorry...


    You are getting good at these - clearly being in Europe has retuned you to smaller cars. Yes its a Lloyd Arabella.
    Hmm, looks just like a Borgward Arabella,https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Arabella_de_Luxe_01.JPG
    , right down to the grille emblem>

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,133
    Looks like Lloyd was part of Borgward, with the Borgward Arabella a trim line of the Lloyd Arabella. It's not listed as a separate Borgward model in the Wiki article.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    I am not really sure what it was, mystery to me too. I've heard of the little license-dodging cars being popular in France, too.

    Here's another one I caught in traffic:

    image

    Regarding the Borgward thing, I think there was also the "Hansa" name that was both a model and a brand.

    magnette said:

    I think it is an Axiam - they can drive these tiny cars in much of Europe without a proper licence - it is considered like a moped.
    That doesn't apply in UK so they are much rarer and only really for little old ladies whereas in Germany when I went to the Frankfurt show in September they were pushing them at teenagers - complete with good iPhone links and pictures showing what room there was inside for the sort of things old ladies wouldn't be able to get up to...

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Country estate


  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,529
    edited November 2015
    Back in the says of function over form!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited November 2015
    Back when you had to type instead of using speech to text, he days.

    My sister gave me a thrift store Brit cars of the 50s book. So that looked like a 56ish Standard 10 Companion to me. Except the rear doors aren't split and the lights are all wrong.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Sorry, it isn't actually British,,,,
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's what you get buying auto books in thrift stores Steve.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    T'was a present. Knowing my sister, it was really a consignment store. :D
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    magnette said:

    Country estate


    G'day

    First time I have really been able to contribute for a couple of weeks, as we have been holidaying interstate.

    This reminds me of a Hillman Husky, but I am pretty sure it isn't. Body looks a little longer and the scene is clearly left hand drive country, possibly Holland or Germany, the flower grower reference making Holland more likely. The only Dutch manufacturer that I can think of from later 1950's is DAF, but I don't think that is correct.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    G'day Graham

    It's German rather than Dutch... I like the florist reference though
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I was guessing Kew since that's a fancy, expensive greenhouse.

    And I did think maybe it wasn't Brit since the rear door opens on the wrong side for British roads. But we were stuck with that problem here with the older CR-Vs until Honda wised up and went to a lift gate.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    Maybe a Goliath?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    fintail said:

    Maybe a Goliath?

    No, not a Goliath. Its a US manufacturer...
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    Strange looking Packard ;)

    You gave it away, it must be a Ford Taunus, I think they were called 12M for several generations.
    magnette said:


    No, not a Goliath. Its a US manufacturer...

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    edited November 2015
    Yes, a bit too much of a clue - sorry. Its a Ford Taunus 12M - about 1958/60.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Try this one...


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    I see a Triumph Mayflower in the background.

    The featured car reminds me of a "shorty" custom. I swear I have seen that grille profile before, but I can't recall the name (some kind of Standard?). Pretty sure it is British.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,133
    fintail said:

    I see a Triumph Mayflower in the background.

    The featured car reminds me of a "shorty" custom. I swear I have seen that grille profile before, but I can't recall the name (some kind of Standard?). Pretty sure it is British.

    Kind of like:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    That looks really well done. I have seen numerous VWs given that treatment. Some old US cars, too

    image
    texases said:


    Kind of like:

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    fintail said:

    I see a Triumph Mayflower in the background.

    The featured car reminds me of a "shorty" custom. I swear I have seen that grille profile before, but I can't recall the name (some kind of Standard?). Pretty sure it is British.

    It is a kind of Standard - but with a difference as it was never made like this in Britain. There is a foreign connection.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    I really see the Standard Vanguard front end now. But I don't know the rest, must be a custom body?
    magnette said:

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    It is a kind of Standard - but with a difference as it was never made like this in Britain. There is a foreign connection.

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Well, it was made in series - probably more than 50 of this type - and not by Standard themselves.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    edited November 2015
    one more clue - the car was modified to make a convertible by one of the great European car builders of the early 20th Century - this was pretty much their swan song...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Well, my Standard Vanguard convertible hasn't progressed so I'll give you the answer. From about 1949 Standard Vanguards were assembled in Belgium, by the Imperia company, which had been car builders in their own right from the start of the century, but were only making a few cars of their own (TA8) by the post-war period.
    About 300 Standards were assembled per month in 1950, and they continued until about 1958 although later models were less popular, I think.
    This convertible with a coachbuilt body was unique to Imperia, they made nothing like this in England. I believe it was only these earlier Vanguards that were converted.
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