Mystery car pix

Mr_Shiftright

me want.

stickguy

well, definitely a Plymouth. 1949? Is that one of those sorta hatchbacks (business coupe?)

lostwrench1

Yes, a Plymouth Business Coupe - 1950.

stickguy

slorenzen

Mr_Shiftright said:

The one to have is the 2.0 if you can't afford the very pricey 914/6. Very clever little car, with two decent-sized trunks and targa top that stows in back trunk (but you can stuff things under it). Outstanding gas mileage.

For a long time, people were stuffing a Chevy 350 in the Hell Hole(engine compartment) with the necessary sheet metal and cooling modifications. Over the last several years, folks have been using the Subaru engine with just an adapter for the transaxle. Apparently, you can even stuff the radiator in there, and it runs cool enough.

Mr_Shiftright

I've actually driven a Chevy powered Porsche 914. It was a totally rude bellowing animal of a thing. You have to do without certain things, like a heater and sound insulation.

andys120

lostwrench1 said:

Yes, a Plymouth Business Coupe - 1950.

Yup, that is what used to be called a Business Coupe with a single bench seat and behind that a Ginormous trunk (not a hatch) for carrying samples, rugs, boxes or whatever the itinerant sales rep needed to have w him.

Officially you're looking at a 1950 Plymouth Deluxe.

I'm not sure why I like the MoPars of that era. In a way they're kinda frumpy but there's a certain elegance too.

Mr_Shiftright

Would make a really nice rod.

andys120

stickguy said:

My first thought was Holden but then I saw it was LHD so perhaps a late 40s, early 50s German Ford or Opel.

fintail

Standard Vanguard ~1950 (on Dutch plates)

stickguy said:

stickguy

1951 Mk 1, but close enough!

magnette

Hang on - Dutch numberplates....

The Standard Vanguard was made in Belgium under licence by Imperia just after the war - basically this model (and a convertible we didn't get here). Belgium and the Netherlands had a Customs union so it would have been cheaper I think to buy an Imperia version there than a British assembled one. Possibly they sold them as Standards outside Belgium anyway.

Styling was apparently influenced by early 40's Plymouth ...

Mr_Shiftright

I believe that some historians credit Imperia with the world's first automatic transmission in a passenger car.

andys120

Mystery dashboard>

Mr_Shiftright

Hmmm....looks German....looks BMW/Audi--ish.....

stickguy

yeah, I assumed it was a BMW bout no clue which one.

Mr_Shiftright

No logo in the steering wheel though. I feel like I've sat in this one, but can't quite place it. 70s car most likely.

stickguy

Is it some sort of Audi?

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

70s car most likely.

1969 MY.

berri

Maybe something French like a Peugeot?

stickguy

I cheated and looked it up. Never seen one of these before. But at least I did see the familial relationship to the dash!

andys120

berri said:

Maybe something French like a Peugeot?

Non

kyfdx

The steering wheel is throwing me off, but the wood dash and switchgear all look BMW-ish.

andys120

Maybe this will help>

slorenzen

andys120 said:

Maybe this will help>

633CSi?

texases

The 6 seriess predecessor, the 2800 CS.

bhill2

I will take a flyer and say first generation Audi 100.

stickguy

BMW 2000Ca

texases

Didn't he say it was a '69? If so, no more 2000C/CS.

Mr_Shiftright

No, steering wheel is wrong.

texases

Wrong for a 2800? Then it must be older than 1969, I guess.

Mr_Shiftright

Steering wheel had a round hub didn't it?

texases

Yeah, the pics I'm finding for the 2800 have the round hub, so it must be the older 2000 C/CS. Found a shop with all kinds of interior bits for these:
http://www.worlduph.com/bmw/classic/e9/carpet/

kyfdx

texases said:

Yeah, the pics I'm finding for the 2800 have the round hub, so it must be the older 2000 C/CS. Found a shop with all kinds of interior bits for these:
http://www.worlduph.com/bmw/classic/e9/carpet/

I had a '67 2000CS. It didn't have that wheel, either.

I thought the 2800CS was probably right, just with an aftermarket wheel.. but, I'm not an expert on them.

andys120

stickguy said:

BMW 2000Ca

Yup, it's a 1969 BMW 2000Ca, screwy steering wheel and all. The 2000 was the antecedent of the 6 Series.



Here's the story.

The steering wheel does look like nothing I've ever seen in a Bimmer.

texases

Sites I've seen said the 2000Ca was replaced before '69.

Mr_Shiftright

Ken Gross's BMW Buyer's Guide shows it to 1969, but also mentions that it was phased out in "late summer" 1968, so probably one of those typical "overlap years" that we see in German cars from that period.

andys120

texases said:

Sites I've seen said the 2000Ca was replaced before '69.

Acc to Wikipedia the last 2000CS/CAs were made in 1969 Link wiki/BMW_New_Class.

Ishouldn't let this topic go without noting how much the styling of the CS/CSa was influenced by the 1960 Corvair (as were all of the Neue Classe Bimmers). That influence can still be seen in today's BMWS.

andys120

Netherlands 1960s>

magnette

The red BMC 1100 could be Morris, Austin or MG butI don't know whether all those were available over there - I think the Morris version was sold in the Netherlands as the Glider -a reference to its Hydrolastic suspension....

Mr_Shiftright

I'd need a closer look to differentiate them.

fintail

I'll pick off the pair of fintails - W110s.

magnette

It has a white numberplate so may be German registered anyway.

Mr_Shiftright

We have what I'd guess to be a Jaguar 3.4L Saloon with the grandpa headlights. Those rail cars are very creepy if you know what I mean.

texases

andys120 said:

texases said:

Sites I've seen said the 2000Ca was replaced before '69.

Acc to Wikipedia the last 2000CS/CAs were made in 1969 Link wiki/BMW_New_Class.

Ishouldn't let this topic go without noting how much the styling of the CS/CSa was influenced by the 1960 Corvair (as were all of the Neue Classe Bimmers). That influence can still be seen in today's BMWS.

Funny, I got my comment on the years from the OTHER wiki page, on the E9:
"The first of the E9 coupés, the 2800 CS, replaced the 2000 C and 2000 CS in 1968. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E9

But the '69 date is documented in your link, so it works for me.

Edit - this site says the 2000 CS was made even later:
" It’s interesting to note that the CS continued in production until 1970 – two years after the 2800CS made its debut – and it would be interesting to see how many found homes once the more glamorous sibling had come to market."
https://drive-my.com/en/test-drive/item/2109-bmw-2000cs-through-the-decades-and-years.html

another site has the production #s, including 65 made in 1970:
http://www.bmw2000ca.un.cz/e-history_model.htm

andys120

The Jag w the yellow headlights (French registry?) is an S-Type (1963-68). I think behind it is a Ford Taunus and to its right a Lancia Fulvia Berlina

Mr_Shiftright

andys120 said:

The Jag w the yellow headlights (French registry?) is an S-Type (1963-68). I think behind it is a Ford Taunus and to its right a Lancia Fulvia Berlina

As yes, the hoods over the headlights are a good way to identify an S Type. I blew it. Maybe it's because I really don't like S types.

qbrozen

I'm finding that silver car to the right of the Jag interesting and tough to pinpoint. Anyone?

magnette

The silver car to the right of the Jag is an Opel Rekord A - circa 1963-5. There is a later Opel Rekord C directly behind the Jag.

Anybody on the car towing the boat?

qbrozen

magnette said:

The silver car to the right of the Jag is an Opel Rekord A - circa 1963-5. There is a later Opel Rekord C directly behind the Jag.

Anybody on the car towing the boat?

The 2-door looks much much better.

Oh, so I see they also made a coupe (as opposed to the 2-door sedan in the pic) that is pretty sharp, and a real nice looking 2-door wagon. Cool stuff.