Mystery car pix

fintail

They are worth something in Europe, but nobody will care here.

andys120

stickguy

Acura vigor

andys120

stickguy said:

Acura vigor

Yep, sold in most markets as a Honda, the Vigor was the flagship of the new Acura brand in the US from 1992 until replaced by the Legend in 1995.

texases

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

Acura vigor

Yep, sold in most markets as a Honda, the Vigor was the flagship of the new Acura brand in the US from 1992 until replaced by the Legend in 1995.

?? The first Acuras were the Legend and Integra, starting in 1986.

andys120

?? The first Acuras were the Legend and Integra, starting in 1986.

My bad, what I should have said is that the Vigor was replaced by the Legend in those markets where it was sold as a Honda. Almost everywhere outside the US the Vigor was the top of the Honda line until the Legend came along.

The Acura-badged version of the Vigor sold here from 1992-94 and was dlotted between the Legend and the Integra.

I think I got that right.

kyfdx

That one is the LS model. The higher trim GS model had body color moldings, rather than black.

tjc78

Weren't they 5 cyl? 

andys120

Extra credit if you ID the plane too.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

Weren't they 5 cyl? 

Yep, an in-line 5.

When I lived in CA, a co-worked leased one of these. Kind of a mauve-purple tone, with a black leather interior. Stick shift. Was a nice ride.

fintail

I see a 37 Ford convertible, top down, in the background, between what looks like a ~50 Mercury and a similar year Mopar sedan.

kyfdx

tjc78 said:

Weren't they 5 cyl? 

172 HP, which was a lot for that time. By comparison, the Maxima 6 cylinder was 170 HP, I think.

My wife had a white '94 GS with taupe interior.

tmart

I'll take the Henry J's on the ramp. Wag for the plane, a DC-3?

texases

Not a D.C.-3. Tail looks like a C-46 Commando, surplus from WW2. 

andys120

texases said:

Not a D.C.-3. Tail looks like a C-46 Commando, surplus from WW2. 

Yup that's the amazing Curtiss C-46 Commando. It resembled the DC-3/C-47 with it's twin engines but was actually quite a bit larger. It was the go-to plane for heavy lift during and for some time after WWII.

tmart said:

I'll take the Henry J's on the ramp. Wag for the plane, a DC-3?

Yep, those are Henry J. Kaiser's Henry Js being airlifted to some export market

lostwrench1

Checking the aircraft's registration number, the old gal, built in 1959, is probably still flying because of its registration's expiring in May 2019. Mr. Shiftright, she lives in your state, watch for her.

Interesting that a 48 star flag was painted on her. Alaska became a state on January 3, 1959. The painting company must have known that they were painting an obsolete flag.

qbrozen

andys120 said:

Not a D.C.-3. Tail looks like a C-46 Commando, surplus from WW2. 

Yup that's the amazing Curtiss C-46 Commando. It resembled the DC-3/C-47 with it's twin engines but was actually quite a bit larger. It was the go-to plane for heavy lift during and for some time after WWII.

I'll take the Henry J's on the ramp. Wag for the plane, a DC-3?

Yep, those are Henry J. Kaiser's Henry Js being airlifted to some export market

I don't know about those cars being airlifted anywhere. I don't see how they could possibly make the turn to get into the plane. I was looking at that pic wondering what the hell they are doing. Just driving through? The lead car appears to be almost emerging from the other side and the doors are not even in the plane yet.

andys120

Interesting that a 48 star flag was painted on her. Alaska became a state on January 3, 1959. The painting company must have known that they were painting an obsolete flag.


It's likely that that photo was taken way before 1959. They stopped making Henry Js in 1954 and the cars in the lot behind are all late 40s/early 50s. The C-46 is likely WWII surplus built long before '59.

texases

"The C-46 is likely WWII surplus built long before '59."

Yes, as far as I can tell production for the C-46 stopped in 1945. It's amazing that some are still flying commercially.

andys120

I haven't seen any lately but they were all over Bolivia, Argentina and Brazil in the mid-70s...30years after the last were made.

texases

According to wiki: "As of November 2016, there are five [C-46] aircraft known to be regularly flown in active revenue service; two with Everts Air Cargo, two with Everts Air Fuel and one (C-FAVO) with Buffalo Airways. As of late 2016; Buffalo Airways is reactivating C-GTPO after the crash of C-GTXW in 2015, which would bring them back to two serviceable units."

lostwrench1

Correct, the last was built in 1945. I found one source stating 1946.
Why two aircraft registration sources state N74173 was manufactured in 1959, I don't know.
I found that the old gal, as of September 2016, sits at the Yanks Air Museum in Chino, California.

I found the interior width as being 9 feet 10 inches. The Henry Js could have entered the aircraft and then be pushed or pulled sideways on rollers toward the front of the aircraft.

kyfdx

In the late '80s, we used to get a DC-3 cargo flight, four days per week. The pilots told me that the particular plane was built in 1939.

lostwrench1

Ok, I found it.
The year an aircraft was manufactured is based on the information shown on the application for the Air Worthiness Certificate, not necessarily the model year.
One learns something new every day.

andys120

kyfdx said:

In the late '80s, we used to get a DC-3 cargo flight, four days per week. The pilots told me that the particular plane was built in 1939.

That's about the time I flew from LGA to Nantucket via DC-3

andys120

At least one maker hasn't forgotten that expensive high-performance GTs ought to be beautiful as well as fast.

Mr_Shiftright

I'm likin' it except for the hot wheels.

lostwrench1

andys120 said:

kyfdx said:

In the late '80s, we used to get a DC-3 cargo flight, four days per week. The pilots told me that the particular plane was built in 1939.

That's about the time I flew from LGA to Nantucket via DC-3

Was it via the old PBA Airlines?
I flew in one of their DC-3s from Boston to Hyannis and back in the late 1980s. We took off from Hyannis and the landing gear would not retract. The plane had been towed out of a hanger with pins installed in the landing gear so the gear would not collapse when the plane was being towed. Someone forgot to remove the pins before the flight. We could have continued on to Boston with the landing gear down but the pilot decided to return to Hyannis which was fine with me, more flying time in a DC-3.

tmart

andys120 said:

At least one maker hasn't forgotten that expensive high-performance GTs ought to be beautiful as well as fast.

Aston Martin DB11

laurasdada

My first DB11 in the wild sighting was a couple of weeks ago, driving past the University my son is considering attending. My guess it was the president of the U's new (company) car. :@

fintail

Or a foreign "student".

Today I saw a late model M6 coupe with a plate that read "M6GC" - yet it wasn't a Gran Coupe.

andys120

Confirming that the cost of college is skyrocketing because academics and administrators are grossly overcompensated. I'll probably go the rest of my life without seeing an actual DB11.

explorerx4

Amazing info about the picture with the Henry J's and the plane.

Mr_Shiftright

That would add quite a bit to "destination charge" wouldn't it?

andys120

berri

An IH pick-up. Can't see the front, so I'll just guess somewhere in the mid to late 60's.

omarman

lostwrench1 said:

I found the interior width as being 9 feet 10 inches. The Henry Js could have entered the aircraft and then be pushed or pulled sideways on rollers toward the front of the aircraft.

Hi. My name is Omar and I'm thick as a short plank on the cargo plane thing. This is my first meeting to ask how a 15 feet long car gets loaded into a cargo hold just under 10 feet wide. The picture is proof positive but still makes my brain hurt.

texases

omarman said:

lostwrench1 said:

I found the interior width as being 9 feet 10 inches. The Henry Js could have entered the aircraft and then be pushed or pulled sideways on rollers toward the front of the aircraft.

Hi. My name is Omar and I'm thick as a short plank on the cargo plane thing. This is my first meeting to ask how a 15 feet long car gets loaded into a cargo hold just under 10 feet wide. The picture is proof positive but still makes my brain hurt.

I bet either the airplane's door is wide enough for the cars to turn and go in, or they have something they put under the tires to let the folks slide them around to get pointed the right way.

Mr_Shiftright

Or maybe it fell out of the other side and they gave up?

andys120

berri said:

An IH pick-up. Can't see the front, so I'll just guess somewhere in the mid to late 60's.

You know your IH's, it's a 1964 International Harvester 1200

lostwrench1

omarman said:

lostwrench1 said:

I found the interior width as being 9 feet 10 inches. The Henry Js could have entered the aircraft and then be pushed or pulled sideways on rollers toward the front of the aircraft.

Hi. My name is Omar and I'm thick as a short plank on the cargo plane thing. This is my first meeting to ask how a 15 feet long car gets loaded into a cargo hold just under 10 feet wide. The picture is proof positive but still makes my brain hurt.

Good point, Omar, the Henry Js must have not been transported sideways but facing forward.
What helped is the Henry Js turning circle of 35 feet which has a radius of 5.5 feet. It may have taken a few forwards and backs to make that turn but it was done.

On line, one can search "loading a C46 aircraft photos" and see army jeeps driving up a ramp and into a C46. There is also a photo of a Ferrari 330 LM Berlinetta being raised to the C46's doors to be driven in.

andys120

omarman

andys120 said:

The ebay listing ends Friday morning and lots of people watching this one. I didn't find any pics underneath but there's a you tube video posted by seller. Seller's ad also stated, "would take Honda Fury in as part trade."

lostwrench1

"Clock does not work" - Sooo typical of older GM cars.

berri

I have trouble with the first few years of those mid 60's Chevelle's. I'll guess it is a 65 or 66. Interesting that a hardtop coupe would have hubcaps. I think I see a gear shift from the windshield. Wonder if it is a 3 on the tree too? Might be the passenger side door lock though.

texases

berri said:

I have trouble with the first few years of those mid 60's Chevelle's. I'll guess it is a 65 or 66. Interesting that a hardtop coupe would have hubcaps. I think I see a gear shift from the windshield. Wonder if it is a 3 on the tree too? Might be the passenger side door lock though.

You're right, the hardtop makes it a 'Malibu Sports Coupe', which has the nice wheel covers in the Chevelle brochure.

andys120

berri said:

I have trouble with the first few years of those mid 60's Chevelle's. I'll guess it is a 65 or 66. Interesting that a hardtop coupe would have hubcaps. I think I see a gear shift from the windshield. Wonder if it is a 3 on the tree too? Might be the passenger side door lock though.

Yup, a hardtop coupe with stripper hubcaps and blackwalls is an odd combination.

texases said:

berri said:

I have trouble with the first few years of those mid 60's Chevelle's. I'll guess it is a 65 or 66. Interesting that a hardtop coupe would have hubcaps. I think I see a gear shift from the windshield. Wonder if it is a 3 on the tree too? Might be the passenger side door lock though.

You're right, the hardtop makes it a 'Malibu Sports Coupe', which has the nice wheel covers in the Chevelle brochure.

The interior doesn't look very "Sport Coupe" either...



Options used to be a lot more "optional" back in 1964 (first year for the Chevelle IIRC) so you could order your car to suit your requirements and your pocketbook. This particular Malibu has a 283 V8 w 2-speed Powerglide.

andys120

stickguy

It's a Chrysler. Apparently owned by a mafia boss.

andys120

stickguy said:

It's a Chrysler. Apparently owned by a mafia boss.

So far so good, wanna try for model/model year?