2017 Dodge Challenger Lease Deals and Prices

Michaell

lanameras said:

kyfdx said:

lanameras said:

Hi. What are the lease numbers for a 2017 SXT plus registered in 10304? 36/10 or 24/10. Thanks!

.00006 MF and 62% residual
.00018 MF and 56% residual

Thank you. Msrp is 35k. Selling for 26k. 4K down plus first month and $493/mo for 36/10. Seems high. 

Way high, especially with that much down.

I'd structure the deal to only pay the first payment and DMV costs up front, and add all the other fees to the lease payment.

Ask the dealer:

1. the adjusted cap cost, and how they arrived at that number from the selling price
2. if this is a Chrysler Capital lease, or through a 3rd party

lanameras

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

Hi. What are the lease numbers for a 2017 SXT plus registered in 10304? 36/10 or 24/10. Thanks!

.00006 MF and 62% residual .00018 MF and 56% residual

Thank you. Msrp is 35k. Selling for 26k. 4K down plus first month and $493/mo for 36/10. Seems high. 

Way high, especially with that much down. I'd structure the deal to only pay the first payment and DMV costs up front, and add all the other fees to the lease payment. Ask the dealer: 1. the adjusted cap cost, and how they arrived at that number from the selling price 2. if this is a Chrysler Capital lease, or through a 3rd party

These guys did the whole "let me ask my manager and disappear forever negotiation". They wouldn't give me anything but monthly figures with whatever down. I finally got them to $300/mo with just first payment down. The odd thing is if I plug in the MF and residuals with my state tax, my payments are half of that. They wanna move the cars by the 31st but I'm not sure if I can get them any lower without a real breakdown. 

Michaell

lanameras said:

Michaell said:

lanameras said:

kyfdx said:

lanameras said:

Hi. What are the lease numbers for a 2017 SXT plus registered in 10304? 36/10 or 24/10. Thanks!

.00006 MF and 62% residual
.00018 MF and 56% residual

Thank you. Msrp is 35k. Selling for 26k. 4K down plus first month and $493/mo for 36/10. Seems high. 

Way high, especially with that much down.

I'd structure the deal to only pay the first payment and DMV costs up front, and add all the other fees to the lease payment.

Ask the dealer:

1. the adjusted cap cost, and how they arrived at that number from the selling price
2. if this is a Chrysler Capital lease, or through a 3rd party

These guys did the whole "let me ask my manager and disappear forever negotiation". They wouldn't give me anything but monthly figures with whatever down. I finally got them to $300/mo with just first payment down. The odd thing is if I plug in the MF and residuals with my state tax, my payments are half of that. They wanna move the cars by the 31st but I'm not sure if I can get them any lower without a real breakdown. 

Some dealers seem to be stuck in the 1980's, where a personal computer is a wonderous object.

Lack of transparency is a big turn off to me; I'd find another dealer. Only takes one to meet your numbers.

urbanwiz21

do i have room to go down more? this car have almost 10k in options which i don't need most of them

Michaell

urbanwiz21 said:

do i have room to go down more? this car have almost 10k in options which i don't need most of them

Go down from what? I don't see a selling price or capitalized cost listed on that worksheet.

johncoctostan

I am looking for September's lease rates (money factor and residual) for 2017 Challenger Hellcat, assuming they are out.  Stringly prefer 24mo/10k but would like to know 36mo/10k also.
Thanks much in advance.

Michaell

johncoctostan said:

I am looking for September's lease rates (money factor and residual) for 2017 Challenger Hellcat, assuming they are out.  Stringly prefer 24mo/10k but would like to know 36mo/10k also.
Thanks much in advance.

24/10 - .00006 and 71%
36/10 - .00005 and 63%

wutanec

Could I get numbers for

Year: 2017
Dodge Challenger RT Manual Base
24/15k, 36/15k
92805

Thank you!

Michaell

wutanec said:

Could I get numbers for

Year: 2017
Dodge Challenger RT Manual Base
24/15k, 36/15k
92805

Thank you!

24/15 - .00020 and 62%
36/15 - .00009 and 53%

ivan_srt

Hey Michaell, I'd like to get the rates for 3 different trims. SoCal 90807

• 2017 Dodge Challenger RT 392 Scat Pack - 36/15
  
• 2017 Dodge Challenger RT 392 Scat Pack Shaker - 36/15
  
• 2017 Dodge Challenger SRT 392 - 36/15
  

Thank you in advance

johncoctostan

Thank you Michaell!

Michaell

ivan_srt said:

Hey Michaell, I'd like to get the rates for 3 different trims. SoCal 90807

• 2017 Dodge Challenger RT 392 Scat Pack - 36/15
  
• 2017 Dodge Challenger RT 392 Scat Pack Shaker - 36/15
  
• 2017 Dodge Challenger SRT 392 - 36/15
  

Thank you in advance

392 Scat Pack - standard MF and 58%
392 Scat Pack Shaker - standard MF and 59%
SRT 392 - .00013 and 57%

wutanec

Michaell said:

wutanec said:

Could I get numbers for

Year: 2017
Dodge Challenger RT Manual Base
24/15k, 36/15k
92805

Thank you!

24/15 - .00020 and 62%
36/15 - .00009 and 53%

Thank you Michael,
That is low residual than I expected. Any guesses to what is driving it?
Do you see any signs of it going higher near future?

Thanks,

Michaell

wutanec said:

Michaell said:

wutanec said:

Could I get numbers for

Year: 2017
Dodge Challenger RT Manual Base
24/15k, 36/15k
92805

Thank you!

24/15 - .00020 and 62%
36/15 - .00009 and 53%

Thank you Michael,
That is low residual than I expected. Any guesses to what is driving it?
Do you see any signs of it going higher near future?

Thanks,

It's the end of the model year - 2018's are starting to arrive.

Not likely to increase.

ue2017jeep

Can you please assist with info on 2017 Challenger SXT lease in California:

1. 36 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
2. 48 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
3. 60 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   

Also, what would consider an aggressive discount off of MSRP (excluding incemtives)?
Thank you

Michaell

ue2017jeep said:

Can you please assist with info on 2017 Challenger SXT lease in California:

1. 36 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
2. 48 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
3. 60 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   

Also, what would consider an aggressive discount off of MSRP (excluding incemtives)?
Thank you

No 7.5K allowance from Chrysler
No 60 month lease term from Chrysler

36/10 - .00015 and 51%
48/10 - standard MF and 45%

ue2017jeep

Michaell said:

ue2017jeep said:

Can you please assist with info on 2017 Challenger SXT lease in California:

1. 36 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
2. 48 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
3. 60 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   

Also, what would consider an aggressive discount off of MSRP (excluding incemtives)?
Thank you

No 7.5K allowance from Chrysler
No 60 month lease term from Chrysler

36/10 - .00015 and 51%
48/10 - standard MF and 45%

Thanks, Michaell.
Are these the same for the 2017 SXT PLUS model?
What is an aggressive discount off of the MSRP (excluding incentives)?
What incentives are available in California?

Michaell

ue2017jeep said:

Michaell said:

ue2017jeep said:

Can you please assist with info on 2017 Challenger SXT lease in California:

1. 36 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
2. 48 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
3. 60 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   

Also, what would consider an aggressive discount off of MSRP (excluding incemtives)?
Thank you

No 7.5K allowance from Chrysler
No 60 month lease term from Chrysler

36/10 - .00015 and 51%
48/10 - standard MF and 45%

Thanks, Michaell.
Are these the same for the 2017 SXT PLUS model?
What is an aggressive discount off of the MSRP (excluding incentives)?
What incentives are available in California?

36/10 - .00003 and 52%
48/10 - standard MF and 44%

No incentive information
No pricing information - use the 'make / model / year' pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools

ue2017jeep

Michaell said:

ue2017jeep said:

Michaell said:

ue2017jeep said:

Can you please assist with info on 2017 Challenger SXT lease in California:

1. 36 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
2. 48 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
3. 60 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   

Also, what would consider an aggressive discount off of MSRP (excluding incemtives)?
Thank you

No 7.5K allowance from Chrysler
No 60 month lease term from Chrysler

36/10 - .00015 and 51%
48/10 - standard MF and 45%

Thanks, Michaell.
Are these the same for the 2017 SXT PLUS model?
What is an aggressive discount off of the MSRP (excluding incentives)?
What incentives are available in California?

36/10 - .00003 and 52%
48/10 - standard MF and 44%

No incentive information
No pricing information - use the 'make / model / year' pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools

Edmunds shows a typical discount of $5,250. Dodge website states $3,750 cashback allowance for my zip code.

Is the factory allowance already included in Edmunds estimated $5,250 discount? ... in other words, is it reasonable to request a 5,250 discount AND the factory cash allowance of $3,750 in addition?

Michaell

ue2017jeep said:

Michaell said:

ue2017jeep said:

Michaell said:

ue2017jeep said:

Can you please assist with info on 2017 Challenger SXT lease in California:

1. 36 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
2. 48 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   
3. 60 mos, 10K and 7.5K, residual, and MF (tier 1), incentive(s)
   

Also, what would consider an aggressive discount off of MSRP (excluding incemtives)?
Thank you

No 7.5K allowance from Chrysler
No 60 month lease term from Chrysler

36/10 - .00015 and 51%
48/10 - standard MF and 45%

Thanks, Michaell.
Are these the same for the 2017 SXT PLUS model?
What is an aggressive discount off of the MSRP (excluding incentives)?
What incentives are available in California?

36/10 - .00003 and 52%
48/10 - standard MF and 44%

No incentive information
No pricing information - use the 'make / model / year' pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools

Edmunds shows a typical discount of $5,250. Dodge website states $3,750 cashback allowance for my zip code.

Is the factory allowance already included in Edmunds estimated $5,250 discount? ... in other words, is it reasonable to request a 5,250 discount AND the factory cash allowance of $3,750 in addition?

Probably not - $9K off sticker seems a bit, er, excessive.

And, the cashback incentive is likely valid for a purchase only, not a lease.

xfiresrt

I am in zip 46268, but looking at cars in zip 33328 if they survived hurricane Irma. Which zip code would determine my lease numbers?

2017 Challenger R/T 36/10k
2017 Challenger Scat Pack Shaker 36/10.

If either is standard MF then what is standard MF for Sept?

Thank you in advance.

Michaell

xfiresrt said:

I am in zip 46268, but looking at cars in zip 33328 if they survived hurricane Irma. Which zip code would determine my lease numbers?

2017 Challenger R/T 36/10k
2017 Challenger Scat Pack Shaker 36/10.

If either is standard MF then what is standard MF for Sept?

Thank you in advance.

So far as we know, lease numbers are national.

R/T - .00009 and 56%
Scat Pack Shaker - standard MF (was .00213 last we knew) and 60%

ivan_srt

Hey Michaell would the Residual Value change on a 2017 Scat Pack between 36/15k(58%) to 36/12k? 90807

Michaell

ivan_srt said:

Hey Michaell would the Residual Value change on a 2017 Scat Pack between 36/15k(58%) to 36/12k? 90807

Yes, add 2% to go from 15K to 12K

ivan_srt

xfiresrt said:

I am in zip 46268, but looking at cars in zip 33328 if they survived hurricane Irma. Which zip code would determine my lease numbers?

2017 Challenger R/T 36/10k
2017 Challenger Scat Pack Shaker 36/10.

If either is standard MF then what is standard MF for Sept?

Thank you in advance.

Just a heads up, the "Standard" MF/APR is 4.64% or 0.00194 (0.0019375 if you don't like to round up) for September; according to Dodge's website using your zip and available rebates for leases is $4,250

ivan_srt

Any idea if the Acquisition Fee is being waived this month, and what trims? California 92020

kyfdx

ivan_srt said:

Any idea if the Acquisition Fee is being waived this month, and what trims? California 92020

In other regions, it's the GT, R/T and SXT that have acq.fee waivers. Don't know about SoCal.

osmosiskix

I'm looking for RV/MF for a 2017 challenger SXT. Zip code 32837. 10k/ 36months

Michaell

osmosiskix said:

I'm looking for RV/MF for a 2017 challenger SXT. Zip code 32837. 10k/ 36months

.00015 and 51%

osmosiskix

I went in to a dealer and was looking at a 2017 Dodge Challenger SXT. They kept trying to get me to focus on the monthly payments, not the RV.

The MSRP was $28325
Selling price (so they said) $19,950)
0 acquisition fee
0 due at signing

They were saying my payments would be $272 a month on a 10k/ 36 month lease.
Does that sound accurate?

ivan_srt

osmosiskix said:

I went in to a dealer and was looking at a 2017 Dodge Challenger SXT. They kept trying to get me to focus on the monthly payments, not the RV.

The MSRP was $28325
Selling price (so they said) $19,950)
0 acquisition fee
0 due at signing

They were saying my payments would be $272 a month on a 10k/ 36 month lease.
Does that sound accurate?

I'm guessing the "$19,950" is after rebates, which leaves you at a sale price of $24,700. Did you qualify for any Conquest/Competitive Lease Discount, Military Discount, Loyalty Discount? Ask them what the sale price BEFORE any rebates applied is.

You should use https://leasehackr.com/calculator . I'd help you out, but you're not in California and I don't know how car taxes work in Florida. I see that you have $4750 in rebates available using your ZIP 32837.

• Southeast 2017 Bonus Cash SECHA 7 -$1,000
  
• Southeast BC Lease Cash 66LH1 7 -$3,250
  
• Florida Recovery Bonus Cash SECJH 7 -$500
  

Michaell

ivan_srt said:

osmosiskix said:

I went in to a dealer and was looking at a 2017 Dodge Challenger SXT. They kept trying to get me to focus on the monthly payments, not the RV.

The MSRP was $28325
Selling price (so they said) $19,950)
0 acquisition fee
0 due at signing

They were saying my payments would be $272 a month on a 10k/ 36 month lease.
Does that sound accurate?

I'm guessing the "$19,950" is after rebates, which leaves you at a sale price of $24,700. Did you qualify for any Conquest/Competitive Lease Discount, Military Discount, Loyalty Discount? Ask them what the sale price BEFORE any rebates applied is.

You should use https://leasehackr.com/calculator . I'd help you out, but you're not in California and I don't know how car taxes work in Florida. I see that you have $4750 in rebates available using your ZIP 32837.

• Southeast 2017 Bonus Cash SECHA 7 -$1,000
  
• Southeast BC Lease Cash 66LH1 7 -$3,250
  
• Florida Recovery Bonus Cash SECJH 7 -$500
  

Florida and California have the same tax approach to leases - monthly payment is subject to sales tax.

osmosiskix

So does the monthly seem good?

ivan_srt

osmosiskix said:

So does the monthly seem good?

Did you use the leasehackr calculator? I got 197 a month with $0 due at signing and the rebates being taxed. Also, the monthly payment being taxed. Trust me, I sent out over 200+ emails in 3 days and only 3 were actually good deals. Either you do your own negotiating(exhausting work) or hire a broker for $100-300. Also, make sure your FiCO is over 740 to qualify for Tier 1.

osmosiskix

I did but he was saying that the price point after the lease was over was 14,150. Which I don't get since the "selling price" was $19,950

ivan_srt

You know what I did when dealers would hide numbers from me? Walk away, because the majority of the time they won't budge from any markups and trying to lease vehicles at MSRP. Ask him to send you a lease worksheet with your information and then post it here or send it to me.

4179udpd

Can I get the MF and residual for a 17 Hellcat Challenger ?
36/15
48/12
24/12
Also, do you have any info on 20k leases? Zip 08078, NJ
Thanks!

kyfdx

4179udpd said:

Can I get the MF and residual for a 17 Hellcat Challenger ?
36/15
48/12
24/12
Also, do you have any info on 20k leases? Zip 08078, NJ
Thanks!

.00005 MF and 62% residual
Standard MF and 47% residual
.00006 MF and 70% residual

No info on leases over 15K/yr. check with a dealer on residual reduction.

noleshk

Please advice the MF and residual for Challenger SXT+ in South Florida 33133, 36/12k.
From previous post, please confirm these are the current incentives. Thanks.
Southeast 2017 Bonus Cash SECHA 7 -$1,000
Southeast BC Lease Cash 66LH1 7 -$3,250
Florida Recovery Bonus Cash SECJH 7 -$500

kyfdx

noleshk said:

Please advice the MF and residual for Challenger SXT+ in South Florida 33133, 36/12k.
From previous post, please confirm these are the current incentives. Thanks.
Southeast 2017 Bonus Cash SECHA 7 -$1,000
Southeast BC Lease Cash 66LH1 7 -$3,250
Florida Recovery Bonus Cash SECJH 7 -$500

.00003 MF and 51% residual

We don't have incentive information.

dizman7

Can I get the current (Oct 2017) MF and Residual for 2017 SXT Plus, RT, Scat Packs, and SRT on a 36/12k lease?

Thank you!

kyfdx

Dizman7 said:

Can I get the current (Oct 2017) MF and Residual for 2017 SXT Plus, RT, Scat Packs, and SRT on a 36/12k lease?

Thank you!

SXTPlus: .00003 MF and 51% residual
R/T: .00009 MF and 55% residual
R/T Scatpack: Standard MF and 60% residual
SRT 392: .00013 MF and 59% residual

boostedmk3

What are the current October lease programs (residual/MF) and incentives for 2017 Challenger Hellcats in FL?

36/10k
39/10k
24/10k

xxxmakavelixxx

looking for mf and residual for 36/12 (19702) it is an auto

dizman7

kyfdx said:

Dizman7 said:

Can I get the current (Oct 2017) MF and Residual for 2017 SXT Plus, RT, Scat Packs, and SRT on a 36/12k lease?

Thank you!

SXTPlus: .00003 MF and 51% residual
R/T: .00009 MF and 55% residual
R/T Scatpack: Standard MF and 60% residual
SRT 392: .00013 MF and 59% residual

Awesome, thank you! I'm new here, are these from Dodge or like general industry/3rd party financing (er leasing). Also is the TA package count as a separate model or is it an R/T too? Oh and if it matters or affects anything I'm in AZ, 85083

ivan_srt

xxxmakavelixxx said:

looking for mf and residual for 36/12 (19702) it is an auto

You forgot the trim. Also, the MF/APR and Residual Values are national numbers according to the 2 Edmunds guys that provide them. Automatic, or manual, transmission doesn't matter, that only changes the MSRP.

ivan_srt

Dizman7 said:

kyfdx said:

Dizman7 said:

Can I get the current (Oct 2017) MF and Residual for 2017 SXT Plus, RT, Scat Packs, and SRT on a 36/12k lease?

Thank you!

SXTPlus: .00003 MF and 51% residual
R/T: .00009 MF and 55% residual
R/T Scatpack: Standard MF and 60% residual
SRT 392: .00013 MF and 59% residual

Awesome, thank you! I'm new here, are these from Dodge or like general industry/3rd party financing (er leasing). Also is the TA package count as a separate model or is it an R/T too? Oh and if it matters or affects anything I'm in AZ, 85083

The numbers are from Chrysler Capital. Depends on dealer what they feel like using sometimes(Ally or US Bank). The T/A is a separate model along with the T/A 392, different MF/APR and Residuals. According to kyfdx and Michaell, the numbers are national, the only thing that changes is rebates/incentives.

dizman7

ivan_srt said:

Dizman7 said:

kyfdx said:

Dizman7 said:

Can I get the current (Oct 2017) MF and Residual for 2017 SXT Plus, RT, Scat Packs, and SRT on a 36/12k lease?

Thank you!

SXTPlus: .00003 MF and 51% residual
R/T: .00009 MF and 55% residual
R/T Scatpack: Standard MF and 60% residual
SRT 392: .00013 MF and 59% residual

Awesome, thank you! I'm new here, are these from Dodge or like general industry/3rd party financing (er leasing). Also is the TA package count as a separate model or is it an R/T too? Oh and if it matters or affects anything I'm in AZ, 85083

The numbers are from Chrysler Capital. Depends on dealer what they feel like using sometimes(Ally or US Bank). The T/A is a separate model along with the T/A 392, different MF/APR and Residuals. According to kyfdx and Michaell, the numbers are national, the only thing that changes is rebates/incentives.

Cool, thanks! What is a good place to find out what the current rebates/incentives are? Also forgot to ask what is the "Standard MF" on these (does that vary per month too?)

ivan_srt

Dizman7 said:

ivan_srt said:

Dizman7 said:

kyfdx said:

Dizman7 said:

Can I get the current (Oct 2017) MF and Residual for 2017 SXT Plus, RT, Scat Packs, and SRT on a 36/12k lease?

Thank you!

SXTPlus: .00003 MF and 51% residual
R/T: .00009 MF and 55% residual
R/T Scatpack: Standard MF and 60% residual
SRT 392: .00013 MF and 59% residual

Awesome, thank you! I'm new here, are these from Dodge or like general industry/3rd party financing (er leasing). Also is the TA package count as a separate model or is it an R/T too? Oh and if it matters or affects anything I'm in AZ, 85083

The numbers are from Chrysler Capital. Depends on dealer what they feel like using sometimes(Ally or US Bank). The T/A is a separate model along with the T/A 392, different MF/APR and Residuals. According to kyfdx and Michaell, the numbers are national, the only thing that changes is rebates/incentives.

Cool, thanks! What is a good place to find out what the current rebates/incentives are? Also forgot to ask what is the "Standard MF" on these (does that vary per month too?)

Usually on the Dodge website it has the standard lease/purchase rebates applicable to every lease. Then there's other that you might qualify for(conquest/competitive lease rebate, military, loyalty) Standard MF is .00193/4.64% on Dodge's website, but according to the guys that provide the numbers here, it's .00203/4.87%. Yeah, the MF/APR, Residuals, and rebates change every month. Let me know what trim you're interested in buying and I can probably give you an estimate on what you're looking at. I'm in California and I have yet to find a Dodge dealer that matches the MF/APR, they always mark it up and most of the time won't budge.

dizman7

ivan_srt said:

Dizman7 said:

ivan_srt said:

Dizman7 said:

kyfdx said:

Dizman7 said:

Can I get the current (Oct 2017) MF and Residual for 2017 SXT Plus, RT, Scat Packs, and SRT on a 36/12k lease?

Thank you!

SXTPlus: .00003 MF and 51% residual
R/T: .00009 MF and 55% residual
R/T Scatpack: Standard MF and 60% residual
SRT 392: .00013 MF and 59% residual

Awesome, thank you! I'm new here, are these from Dodge or like general industry/3rd party financing (er leasing). Also is the TA package count as a separate model or is it an R/T too? Oh and if it matters or affects anything I'm in AZ, 85083

The numbers are from Chrysler Capital. Depends on dealer what they feel like using sometimes(Ally or US Bank). The T/A is a separate model along with the T/A 392, different MF/APR and Residuals. According to kyfdx and Michaell, the numbers are national, the only thing that changes is rebates/incentives.

Cool, thanks! What is a good place to find out what the current rebates/incentives are? Also forgot to ask what is the "Standard MF" on these (does that vary per month too?)

Usually on the Dodge website it has the standard lease/purchase rebates applicable to every lease. Then there's other that you might qualify for(conquest/competitive lease rebate, military, loyalty) Standard MF is .00193/4.64% on Dodge's website, but according to the guys that provide the numbers here, it's .00203/4.87%. Yeah, the MF/APR, Residuals, and rebates change every month. Let me know what trim you're interested in buying and I can probably give you an estimate on what you're looking at. I'm in California and I have yet to find a Dodge dealer that matches the MF/APR, they always mark it up and most of the time won't budge.

Ah cool thanks. I'm kind of all over the place atm, I think I'm seeing some deals on 2017's but as you said the numbers I can put together with this info probably won't be what the dealer gives me. And the few times I've been to the dealer already in the past couple months (before I had this info) they haven't really budged much.

I originally started looking at the SXT Plus with super track pack, as a V8 seemed out of reach. But I'm seeing some 2017 listed rather low, which I take with a grain of salt since a lot of times what they list includes rebates you can't qualify for all of them usually. But it seems like some V8's might be possible, some RT Plus, some TA's, and maybe even some SRTs.

I guess what I'm looking for is leather interior and super track pack (which I know is standard on some models) on a 36 month/12,000 mile a year lease (could do 10,000 too) with a maximum payment of $450 but I'd really like to try and keep it under or around $400 a month (would go to $450 for Scat Pack, SRT, or Hellcat for sure). Tricky part is I'd be trading in my current car which has $4k-5k of negative equity (it's worth $9-10k but I owe $14k on it), but I would be putting $4k-5k down to balance that out.

So yeah if you can put together some realistic numbers for me around that mess I'd appreciate it!