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I'm not sure how the addition of the S-Line package impacts this car's residual value. It definitely does not improve it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it knocked 1% off of it.
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What are the money factor and residual for non-quattro FWD A4 with premium option on 36 mo lease for 10k, 12k and 15k?
After locking in the original deal in my previous post, I told the few dealerships that were still emailing me that I've already locked in my deal. One dealership asked if I was willing to reconsider the EXACT SAME CAR except without wood trim and his offer would be:
$2000 total drive off and 479 WITH tax
The original offer is:
$2000 total drive off and 535 with tax
He told me that the car was "in the port" and that he could get it in by next Wednesday but if I came in and signed this weekend, he would lend me a car and then deliver when the proposed car came in.
The original dealership I struck my deal with said there's no way they can match that and the best they could do is throw in Audi care for free. He said he was skeptical about the other dealerships offer and to be careful. I'm not sure what to believe. Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks for the input. It was really helpful. I was of the impression that a loaded car will be a lot more valuable at the end of the lease. :confuse:
Anyway, seems like the S-line package further depresses the residual....might as well just buy the car. With less than 50% residual, I will be paying half the value of the car in 3 years vs. buying the car and paying 60% in 3 years. Monthly payments don't change much by just spreading 10% of the cost over 36 months.
What do you think?
Thanks again.
vwG60x
1. A VW dealer states that it can buy my leased A4 from VW Finance directly for $18.4k, which is about $3,000 lower than my lease-end buy-out option amount of $21.4K. The VW dealer states that the moment it is buying car from VW Finance, I am removed of any lease-related liability (Is this really true?)
2. According to a dealer recommendation for "money-saving tips", I was asked to bring in a potential buyer of the leased car, who will buy the car from the VW dealer almost immediately after the VW dealer buys the car from VW Finance.
3. I found the buyer and arranged him with the VW dealership.
4. The VW dealer states that because it is buying the car directly from VW Finance without turning in the car back to the VW Finance, I will not be charged of any end-of-lease turn-in fees and excess wear-and-tear fees.
My question is this: who is really eating the $3,000 cost difference? I understand that VW dealers have a better wholesale deal access to end-of-lease Audi's, but do I really get to walk away from the car, like this dealer is suggesting? Or is this VW dealer misleading me in any way or form?
msrp: $35,525
sale price: $32,500
Audi care: $650
money factor: 0.00104
residual: 55%
monthly payment $468 with tax.
Drive off with $1924 that includes, first mo payment $468, security deposit $475 and lic/taxes.
How is this deal? This is in So Cal.
I know you have posted this before, but I saw two different sets of numbers and am now confused. So, could you please repost residual and mf for '09 2.0 a4 prestige with 15k for 36 months? Thanks. Also, I hear that Audi loan rates are 2.9% for 48mo and 60mo loans. Can you please confirm if this is true? Thanks.
can you please give me the February money factor and residual value for a 2009 Audi 3.2 Quattro Prestige. I'm plainning on doing a 36 month lease with 10k miles/yr.
Is it possible to get this car below invoice and if so, how much below? I'm in the MD/DC/VA area.
Thanks in Advance.
Thanks!
Also, your responsibilities are no different as a lessee, than as an owner. You must also maintain and repair the car as needed.
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2009 Audi A4 3.2 Prestige
Phantom Black
Lease 15,000 miles/year, 36 months
Includes Navigation Package with Camera
Includes Audi Care Package ($650 value)
MSRP $46,725.00 (I think).
$1,000 on signing (Includes mandatory 1st payment etc.).. Most other drive-off fees (bank acquisiton etc.) are rolled into the payment. So there's approx. $2,000 that would usually be paid up front in the payment.
Payment:
$730 / mo without tax
$791 / mo with tax (CA 8.25%)
If I would have paid the drive-off fees up front it would have been under $700.
What do you think? Is this a good deal? I don't have any other detailed numbers.
I am in the NY metro area.. can anyone give me ideas on what i should expect on a lease. terms below
36 months
15k miles
premium plus
taxes rolled into the lease.. i won't put money down.. so drive off should be 1st month, bank, reg?
Can anyone help.. looking to get this car in the next 2 weeks..
Also.. what do people think it compares to the BMW
A4 2.0q premium plus
15,000 miles
36 months
MSRP= $38,000
INVOICE= $35734 (he told me he was giving it to me for $36,000)
told by the dealer the following : MF= .0009 Residual = 50%
$575 per month
I looked on another site to get a MF= .00104 (his seems better) and a Residual of 49%
What is correct?
Drive off is first month, bank (695), and NYS reg, $200
PLEASE HELP !!
Thanks!
Today I drove a 3.2 with sports suspension package; 18" wheels with summer tires today and loved it. Then I drove a 2.0 with standard suspension, 17" tires & rims. Like comparing a BMW to a Malibu.
I ordered a 2.0 with sports package, nav, premium plus, no wood, Brilliant Black with Black seats. 15,000 miles, 36 months, Audi care, 1,700 off MSRP. 51% residual, .00090 money factor. 750.00 loyalty rebate from wife's Audi and VW is applied to down payment. 8.25% sales tax. I could have shopped it around and saved a few hundred but the salesman gave me three road tests. He has to eat too. $645.74 rent, drive off is 1st month's rent and license plate fees.
I had to have it built for April delivery to get this spec. That works for me.
I suggest driving the sport package and standard back to back before committing.
Audi care at 650.00 raises the residual 1% so the net cost is very little.
I am pondering buying the wheel and tire insurance given my NYC vicinity moon crater pothole track record. I forget the price but it was near $700.00.
The 3.2 was a more luxurious motor than the 2.0 but they say the performance is comparable and mileage on the 2.0 much better. I live in a congested area and don't need a big motor.
Still smarting from my Infiniti M35X gas bills last summer. Owe them $540.00 for wheel scrapes and this one had no flats or bent rims like the prior Infiniti did.
A man I work with leased a 2008 G35X for about 385.00. Dealers are still stuck with 2008s. 2009 G37 sedan is a worth a look if you can accept a smaller trunk and no folding seats. Tech is comparable to Audi Prestige. Perhaps when the clear out the 2008 they will offer a decent plan on the 2009s.
Sorry to go off topic.
can you help me on this?
this is what i was offered today by one of the dealer....2886 out of pocket and 495/mo for 36mo/10k
i probably need 12k per year..how much more i am expecting?
what do you think?
Invoice on the below car is $33,375. Any opinion on the deal?
2009 A4 non-quattro CVT premium plus, 10K, 36 mo lease
msrp: $35,825
invoice $33,375
sale price: $32,500
Audi care: $650
money factor: 0.00104
residual: 55%
monthly payment $464 with tax ($428/mo +tax).
Drive off with $1920 that includes
$310 DMV
$464 1st payment
$475 Security Deposit
$625 Bank Fee
$45 Doc Fee
Quattro w/ bluetooth, ipod package and 6 disc:
Security deposit and 1st Month payment only: $800
$465 / mo. before tax; $497 w/ 7% tax
Negotiated Price: ~$32,500
Money Factor: ~.00105
Residual: 54%
Thanks to the moderators for this great forum which makes it really easy to negotiate a price with dealers. Since this forum helped me a lot with my lease I am posting my numbers here for others to benefit in their search for a better lease:
1. NY area: 8.625% tax
2. A4 2.0 T quattro with Premium package (heated seats, rear airbags, etc)
3. MSRP: 35,636
4. Selling Price: 32,770 (400 over invoice)
5. MF: 0.0009 (NE rate)
6. Residual: 55%
7. 12K/36mo
8. Audi Care: 650 (it raises the residual 1%, free scheduled and mandatory service)
9. No sec deposit, no acquisition fee (negotiated, yes you can negotiate them)
10. 498 / mo including tax
11. 1200 drive off including all govt fees, 1st month payment, Audi Care
Looking back I could've done better regarding the sale price. I read about $1000 to even $2000 under invoice which I am not quite sure how you can get since there is no rebates other than a $750 for existing Audi customers, which sadly I wasn't for the purposes of this deal. Anyway, pretty happy with the deal and the car is gorgeous and drives fantastic. I had an Audi 4 years ago and this one is a much larger and nicer car.
I'm just wondering if dealers are using the term "premium package" interchangeably with the "premium plus" model?
A dealer quoted me a price with the "premium package with symphony/heated seats, bluetooth etc..", but these are standard in the 'premium plus'. I suppose I can ask the dealer, but wanted to see what your thoughts were. Thanks!
His quote just for fun:
$439 a month including taxes
2788 upfront
36 mos/12k
May I ask how many miles per year, and is it a 36 month lease? I'm trying to seal my lease with the same specs as you have by tomorrow afternoon, would really appreciate some thoughts/comparisons. Thanks!!
As far as I know Premium is the base model, and it does not include, heated seats, BT or symphony. Premium Plus ($4000 more) it does, you can add to Premium options piecemeal as I did with heated seats and symphony. Most of the cars in inventory will have at least some options over the Premium.
Thanks!
Is bank acquisition fee of $650 a normal fee as part of drive off total for a lease?
Thanks!
Thoughts?
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There's nothing wrong with financing a new vehicle now that leasing is not quite as attractive as it used to be.
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As far as this car's special financing program goes, Audi is providing 2.9 financing on it for up to 3 years, 3.9% for 4 years, 4.9% for 5 years, or 5.2% for 6 years.
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Unless you are a current AFS lessee who qualifies for the $750 owner loyalty offer, I doubt that you will be able to get this car for much less than dealer invoice. If I was in the market for one right now, I personally would shoot for invoice or slightly over.
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Thanks,
I'll be in the market for a new car in the next month or so. Are there any incentives for the A4's?
Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Luk.
Money factor.00110
Residual 53%
$1500.00 down
1680.00 for all other fees (paperwork, security, first month payment, etc) Drive off
469.10 per month.
10k miles/year/36months
Just got this today. Worth it?
Can't remember the selling price, should i be worried?
In short, the best way to get a good deal on a leased vehicle is to negotiate the lowest possible selling price on the car that you want and then have the dealer calculate its monthly payment using its buy rate lease money factor. If you get the car that you want for a low selling price and the dealer is not marking up its money factor than you should be getting a good deal.
As far as things to look out for when leasing, make sure that the dealer doesn't try to charge you some sort of large doc fee. Doc fees are little more than extra dealer profit.
The typical fees that you should pay at lease signing include your car's first month's payment, a security deposit equivalent to that payment rounded up to the nearest $25 increment, Audi Financial Services' $625 acquisition fee, and any required state taxes or fees.
That's it in a nutshell. Good luck and let us know if you have any other questions.
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Thanks again and enjoy your new ride :shades: !
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