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What is the current mileage on the loaner?
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$1000 lease credit.
I'm guessing the sale price is inclusive of the lease incentive.
Without knowing the adjusted CAP cost, I'm estimating, but the payment looks about right.
With just first payment upfront, it would be about $100/mo. higher.
It's a decent deal..
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Was planning on going to the dealership but called to asked to see the lease worksheet so there are no surprises - he stated he couldn't apply it to a lease, as the rebates are different between financing and leasing. I declined but not without seeing what the lease would work out to be. The MF was correct at .00661 BUT the residual was at 56%....which is 2% lower. I don't believe the residual changes during the month correct? Including the Acq $925, title and reg, there was a "dealership fee" of $500. But I didn't point any of the incorrect numbers out as he couldn't lease it to us at 31,9. The number shot up to $35,524 after a downpayment of $2k. which may or may not have been his rebate. I asked him on 2 days (via email) about the money factor - but no questions about lease, meant no concerns. I wasn't trying to pull anything.
I'm rather discouraged because to me the sale price is the sale price. While I understand the dealership's perspective about rebates available, the Sales Manager wasn't transparent about this at all. If the lease sale price was 31,900 I would've signed instantly. Anyways, see attachment.
Dealer cannot alter the residual value, so confirm the term and mileage you want.
You want to target 7% off MSRP, then subtract the incentives.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
$2500 more incentives on purchase/finance than on a lease.
No way around that.
When you look at the price they provided on the lease, after the rebate, it was $34,400. That's exactly $2500 more than the purchase quote. So, from that standpoint, they gave you the same deal, which was $36,400 minus incentives. The full difference is the difference in incentives on lease vs. buy.
The dealer's fee is only $199, which is added to the CAP cost, along with the $925 acquisition fee.
The $505.38 due from you at signing is for the first payment, plus $45 registration fee. No $500 fees from the dealer.
As far as the residual, they've used 58%.
56% is the base residual for 36/15. Just below that, you'll see the adjusted residual for 12K/yr, which is indeed 58%.
I'm not saying how good the deal is... but, the information is pretty straightforward. I don't see any extras in the deal, other than the $199 dealer fee.
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Assistance with the current MF/RV and if 15% discount is realistic would be greatly appreciated!
Also, I'm new to BMW. Can incentives be applied to demos? Trying to determine what incentive might apply...
$500 cash back - manufacturer
$3000 dealer allowance - manufacturer
$1000 - recent grad (I am a recent grad)
I also have USAA and Costco. I think Costco has a $500 incentive now..
.00166 MF
56% residual
Residual is reduced by $0.25/mile for existing mileage ($925)
15% is what I would shoot for..
$500 lease credit
$1000 college grad
$3000 (not compatible with the BMWFS lease program)
Texas taxes the full selling price of the vehicle, even on a lease.
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59%/58% residual
$1000 lease credit
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Thank you immensely.
59%/58% residual
$500 lease credit
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Thank you, Sir.
36/12K = 457/month
36/10K = 447/month
No down payment for either. Both deals include all fees and taxes.
How good are these deals?
Thank you.
Confirm the adjusted CAP cost and MF used in the dealer payment quotes.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Can I please get MF & Residual in California for 36/10 sDrive and xDrive?
Also, for a quick sanity check, which fees should be rolled into the monthly payment vs paid upfront?
Thank you!
$1000 lease credit
In CA, only make the first payment and pay the DMV costs at signing; roll all other fees into the lease payment.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
I was given this quote by a dealership for a 2018 X 1 M-Sport. It will be registered in DC, which I believe adds a 10% tax on the monthly payment:
MSRP - $49,060
Discount - $4,000
Sales Price - 45,060
BMW Lease Rebate - $1,500
BMW Acquisition Fee - $925
Processing Fee - $699
DC Tag and Title - $263
Money Factor - .00166
Residual - 58% ($28,455)
$728.18 of cap cost reduction (1,500 rebate + 914.51 cash collected - 651.51 payment - 699-proc fee - 263 tg/title) is Taxed by DC - $72.82.
state of VA Dealer Business License Tax - $91.52
Cap Cost = 45,348 once these are added into the price.
Monthly: $651.51 after tax, $592.28 before tax, first month + tags and title due at signing. My calculations have this at $650.94 after tax, so slightly off.
Does this seem like a fair deal? I feel like the processing fee is pretty high and the payment seems pretty high compared to a couple of other comparable cap costs I've seen on here in my opinion. any help is appreciated!
Thank you!
Once you take that into account, it's just an average deal. About what you would expect, given the lease program you have to work with.
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Money factor .00166
Sale price $38620
Residual for 10k miles .59
$2000 taxable lease credit is in place here
I have taken $3775 off MSRP
$2000 down, $479 per month. Thoughts?
Is the lease credit deducted from the sale price, or already in that number?
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Check with a second dealer and see if you get the same explanation.
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Thanks for the help last time--taking one more run at this (different car I'm negotiating with a few more features):
MSRP 50,760
Net cap cost 46,600
MF: .001660
Licence fee plus first month up front.
Decent deal?
7% off MSRP, plus incentives, is the target for BMW.
Watch for junk fees.
The math is the math, beyond that.
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What ZIP code?
Is that net cap cost with or without incentives?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
20001 (DC), so that's $589.49 payment before tax.
Net cap cost includes all incentives, acquisition fee, applicable taxes, application fee.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP: $50,760
Net cap cost-- $45,569.33 (includes all incentives, taxes, etc.)
MF: .00206
20001 zip, tags + first month down, payment is $648 flat after taxes.
36 month/10k miles
The dealer preferred going lower cap cost and higher interest rate, so adjusted it but kept the same monthly.
Thanks again for the help, let me know if this seems like a decent deal.
On a side note, that looks like the most expensive X1 that can be built. Are there any missing options?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP: 40,237.00
Gross Cap Cost: 36689.28
Cap Cost Reduction: 2051.00
Adjusted Cap Cost: 34,638.28
Residual Value: 22,974.60
Depreciation: 11663.68
Rent charge: 3443.00
Base payment w/rent charge: 419.63
Tax at 7% each payment: 29.37
**Total monthly payment: 449.00
Thank you very much.
You can't add dealer accessories or extras to the MSRP
I get $419/mo.+tax with that adjusted CAP
How much is due at signing? Where is the CAP cost reduction coming from?
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Rebates an non-cash credits: 2000
Amount to be Paid in cash: 500
Total: 2500
Capitalized Cost Reduction: 2051
I got the Costco $500, corporate discount of $500 (my company was on their list), and not sure where the other 1,000 came from. Maybe BMW lease cash?
Anyway, a previous dealer offered a base model MSRP $35,090 at $419/mo + tax, as well, first month payment due at signing. The car I actually signed on, described here, had MSRP $38,940 (almost 4K more), yet same monthly charge with first month due at signing. So I figured I got a good deal.
What are your thoughts about the deal? Thanks.
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$500 lease cash
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I'm currently looking at one with MSRP of $47,840. It is a loaner with 4338 miles on it. We negotiated the price to $42,760.47 so far. Then we qualify for a $2000 rebate (based off of BMW loyalty, lease offers, I don't know)...
I was told the residual was 59% and MF was 0.00186. The monthly payment comes out to $600 even.
Is this a good deal so far? Or should I be negotiating more in a certain area? The MF seems higher than what I've seen on this forum (0.00166) but I'm not sure when to stop negotiating because it's a good deal.