2018 BMW X1 Lease Deals and Prices

Michaell

atos2012 said:

Hello Can you please provide with February numbers for SoCal. X1 FWD Base and M sport design. 36/10k. MF, RV,Acquisition fee. Any incentives, manufacturer to dealer discounts, customer and loyalty discounts. Thank you so much.

.00152 and 59%

You seem to be all over the map with what you're interested in. May I suggest you take a few test drives and see what vehicle you like the most?

Shopping for the best lease deal doesn't work out very well if you don't like the car you selected.

itsissa0

Hello, I was looking at a 2018 X1 xDrive fully loaded with an MSRP of 50,990 near San Francisco. I was looking for 36 months, either 10 or 12k miles a year. Just finishing up my current BMW lease next month.

With 2500 down, I got them to a figure of 459 + tax a month. Is this good? I might readjust it with minimum amount down instead of 2500.

Also I'm a little confused on how to determine my lease figures when given the money factor/ residual. I get confused by where to include fees/extras--particularly acquisition fee, tax, doc fees, etc. Do you have any links explaining this? Thanks in advance!

kyfdx

itsissa0 said:

Hello, I was looking at a 2018 X1 xDrive fully loaded with an MSRP of 50,990 near San Francisco. I was looking for 36 months, either 10 or 12k miles a year. Just finishing up my current BMW lease next month.

With 2500 down, I got them to a figure of 459 + tax a month. Is this good? I might readjust it with minimum amount down instead of 2500.

Also I'm a little confused on how to determine my lease figures when given the money factor/ residual. I get confused by where to include fees/extras--particularly acquisition fee, tax, doc fees, etc. Do you have any links explaining this? Thanks in advance!

.00152 MF and 59%/58% residual

Just remember that the "adjusted CAP cost" is equivalent to the "amount financed" on a loan. If you are paying an amount upfront, it doesn't belong in the CAP cost. If you are rolling it into the lease payment, then add it to the CAP cost.

It may seem to simplify things by saying, "$2500 upfront", but it's easier to do the calculations, if you only pay the first payment and DMV fees upfront, and put everything else into the lease.

So, other than the MSRP, you need the selling price of the vehicle. Add the $925 acquisition fee to the sale price, and that should be your adjusted CAP cost. The only other costs are DMV costs and those should be paid upfront. On a $51K vehicle in CA, DMV fees will be approximately $560. (1.1% of MSRP is a good rule of thumb).

Do you know the sale price of the X1 that is associated with their quote?

Michaell

itsissa0 said:

Hello, I was looking at a 2018 X1 xDrive fully loaded with an MSRP of 50,990 near San Francisco. I was looking for 36 months, either 10 or 12k miles a year. Just finishing up my current BMW lease next month.

With 2500 down, I got them to a figure of 459 + tax a month. Is this good? I might readjust it with minimum amount down instead of 2500.

Also I'm a little confused on how to determine my lease figures when given the money factor/ residual. I get confused by where to include fees/extras--particularly acquisition fee, tax, doc fees, etc. Do you have any links explaining this? Thanks in advance!

.00152 and 59% / 58%

A couple of links to help you along ....

https://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html
https://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/

mikeleti

Hi,
I am seeing a $1500 Lease credit currently on the 2018 X1, I also have Corp Fleet and a OL Event Code, do you know if they can be combined??
Also, how much is Corporate Fleet on a lease?

Thanks

kyfdx

mikeleti said:

Hi,
I am seeing a $1500 Lease credit currently on the 2018 X1, I also have Corp Fleet and a OL Event Code, do you know if they can be combined??
Also, how much is Corporate Fleet on a lease?

Thanks

I don't show the lease credit, though it may be a regional incentive.

No info on the other incentives.

dcenter

Hi. Working on my first lease, this board has been immensely helpful.

Dealer is showing me the below quote. A couple of questions to help me get this over the line:

-MSRP seems to include $995 destination fee when comp'd to BMW website. Is this normal?
-Sale price represents ~7.75% discount to MSRP (incl destination). I offered ~10% discount. Is he in the right context, or is it advisable to push for more?
-$925 acquisition fee unavoidable?
-Advisable to have all fees capitalized?
-$1,500 quoted rebate is apparently conquest program. USAA offering rebate as well - shouldn't this be included on top of conquest?

Thanks!!

Michaell

dcenter said:

Hi. Working on my first lease, this board has been immensely helpful.

Dealer is showing me the below quote. A couple of questions to help me get this over the line:

-MSRP seems to include $995 destination fee when comp'd to BMW website. Is this normal?
-Sale price represents ~7.75% discount to MSRP (incl destination). I offered ~10% discount. Is he in the right context, or is it advisable to push for more?
-$925 acquisition fee unavoidable?
-Advisable to have all fees capitalized?
-$1,500 quoted rebate is apparently conquest program. USAA offering rebate as well - shouldn't this be included on top of conquest?

Thanks!!

1. Destination is part of MSRP
2. We suggest 7% off sticker for BMW, but if you don't ask for more, you won't know if you can get it
3. Yes, acquisition fee is imposed by the bank and is unavoidable
4. Yes, capitalize all taxable fees (exclude any government fees like registration)
5. We don't have any information on USAA incentives

kyfdx

dcenter said:

Hi. Working on my first lease, this board has been immensely helpful.

Dealer is showing me the below quote. A couple of questions to help me get this over the line:

-MSRP seems to include $995 destination fee when comp'd to BMW website. Is this normal?
-Sale price represents ~7.75% discount to MSRP (incl destination). I offered ~10% discount. Is he in the right context, or is it advisable to push for more?
-$925 acquisition fee unavoidable?
-Advisable to have all fees capitalized?
-$1,500 quoted rebate is apparently conquest program. USAA offering rebate as well - shouldn't this be included on top of conquest?

Thanks!!

$3700 tax? That doesn’t look right for Connecticut.

dcenter

kyfdx said:

dcenter said:

Hi. Working on my first lease, this board has been immensely helpful.

Dealer is showing me the below quote. A couple of questions to help me get this over the line:

-MSRP seems to include $995 destination fee when comp'd to BMW website. Is this normal?
-Sale price represents ~7.75% discount to MSRP (incl destination). I offered ~10% discount. Is he in the right context, or is it advisable to push for more?
-$925 acquisition fee unavoidable?
-Advisable to have all fees capitalized?
-$1,500 quoted rebate is apparently conquest program. USAA offering rebate as well - shouldn't this be included on top of conquest?

Thanks!!

$3700 tax? That doesn’t look right for Connecticut.

I agree the tax number looks high, but I'm not sure it's doing anything - when I put his MSRP, residual, MF and rebates into my model, I'm within a few pennies of the after-tax monthly payment.

My model tells me $368.53 depreciation, $99.79 lease fee and $29.74 sales tax. Do you agree?

I will make sure to clarify with the dealer.

kyfdx

dcenter said:

kyfdx said:

dcenter said:

Hi. Working on my first lease, this board has been immensely helpful.

Dealer is showing me the below quote. A couple of questions to help me get this over the line:

-MSRP seems to include $995 destination fee when comp'd to BMW website. Is this normal?
-Sale price represents ~7.75% discount to MSRP (incl destination). I offered ~10% discount. Is he in the right context, or is it advisable to push for more?
-$925 acquisition fee unavoidable?
-Advisable to have all fees capitalized?
-$1,500 quoted rebate is apparently conquest program. USAA offering rebate as well - shouldn't this be included on top of conquest?

Thanks!!

$3700 tax? That doesn’t look right for Connecticut.

I agree the tax number looks high, but I'm not sure it's doing anything - when I put his MSRP, residual, MF and rebates into my model, I'm within a few pennies of the after-tax monthly payment.

My model tells me $368.53 depreciation, $99.79 lease fee and $29.74 sales tax. Do you agree?

I will make sure to clarify with the dealer.

What are you using for the adjusted CAP cost?
Is the $3436 your out of pocket? Or is it $3436 minus the $1500 rebate?

dcenter

kyfdx said:

dcenter said:

kyfdx said:

dcenter said:

Hi. Working on my first lease, this board has been immensely helpful.

Dealer is showing me the below quote. A couple of questions to help me get this over the line:

-MSRP seems to include $995 destination fee when comp'd to BMW website. Is this normal?
-Sale price represents ~7.75% discount to MSRP (incl destination). I offered ~10% discount. Is he in the right context, or is it advisable to push for more?
-$925 acquisition fee unavoidable?
-Advisable to have all fees capitalized?
-$1,500 quoted rebate is apparently conquest program. USAA offering rebate as well - shouldn't this be included on top of conquest?

Thanks!!

$3700 tax? That doesn’t look right for Connecticut.

I agree the tax number looks high, but I'm not sure it's doing anything - when I put his MSRP, residual, MF and rebates into my model, I'm within a few pennies of the after-tax monthly payment.

My model tells me $368.53 depreciation, $99.79 lease fee and $29.74 sales tax. Do you agree?

I will make sure to clarify with the dealer.

What are you using for the adjusted CAP cost?
Is the $3436 your out of pocket? Or is it $3436 minus the $1500 rebate?

For purposes of my calcs, I was using adjusted CAP cost of $39,460 (selling price less rebate). I haven't yet gone back to him to tell him to roll all of the upfront payments into the lease rate.

I couldn't tie out to his quoted initial payment of $1,936.14 - he told me that was first month's plus acquisition plus DMV fees. Even when I break all those out to upfront payments, that number still seemed high to me.

kyfdx

dcenter said:

kyfdx said:

dcenter said:

kyfdx said:

dcenter said:

Hi. Working on my first lease, this board has been immensely helpful.

Dealer is showing me the below quote. A couple of questions to help me get this over the line:

-MSRP seems to include $995 destination fee when comp'd to BMW website. Is this normal?
-Sale price represents ~7.75% discount to MSRP (incl destination). I offered ~10% discount. Is he in the right context, or is it advisable to push for more?
-$925 acquisition fee unavoidable?
-Advisable to have all fees capitalized?
-$1,500 quoted rebate is apparently conquest program. USAA offering rebate as well - shouldn't this be included on top of conquest?

Thanks!!

$3700 tax? That doesn’t look right for Connecticut.

I agree the tax number looks high, but I'm not sure it's doing anything - when I put his MSRP, residual, MF and rebates into my model, I'm within a few pennies of the after-tax monthly payment.

My model tells me $368.53 depreciation, $99.79 lease fee and $29.74 sales tax. Do you agree?

I will make sure to clarify with the dealer.

What are you using for the adjusted CAP cost?
Is the $3436 your out of pocket? Or is it $3436 minus the $1500 rebate?

For purposes of my calcs, I was using adjusted CAP cost of $39,460 (selling price less rebate). I haven't yet gone back to him to tell him to roll all of the upfront payments into the lease rate.

I couldn't tie out to his quoted initial payment of $1,936.14 - he told me that was first month's plus acquisition plus DMV fees. Even when I break all those out to upfront payments, that number still seemed high to me.

I get the same numbers, then.. The rebate is taxable, upfront, and could make up the difference in upfront money. I agree that the tax number seems to be irrelevant to the lease deal. You see a lot of "informational" lines about taxes on the screenshot deals, that aren't actually part of the calculation. That looks like the tax on a purchase. Is this quote from a NY dealer?

dcenter

kyfdx said:

dcenter said:

kyfdx said:

dcenter said:

kyfdx said:

dcenter said:

Hi. Working on my first lease, this board has been immensely helpful.

Dealer is showing me the below quote. A couple of questions to help me get this over the line:

-MSRP seems to include $995 destination fee when comp'd to BMW website. Is this normal?
-Sale price represents ~7.75% discount to MSRP (incl destination). I offered ~10% discount. Is he in the right context, or is it advisable to push for more?
-$925 acquisition fee unavoidable?
-Advisable to have all fees capitalized?
-$1,500 quoted rebate is apparently conquest program. USAA offering rebate as well - shouldn't this be included on top of conquest?

Thanks!!

$3700 tax? That doesn’t look right for Connecticut.

I agree the tax number looks high, but I'm not sure it's doing anything - when I put his MSRP, residual, MF and rebates into my model, I'm within a few pennies of the after-tax monthly payment.

My model tells me $368.53 depreciation, $99.79 lease fee and $29.74 sales tax. Do you agree?

I will make sure to clarify with the dealer.

What are you using for the adjusted CAP cost?
Is the $3436 your out of pocket? Or is it $3436 minus the $1500 rebate?

For purposes of my calcs, I was using adjusted CAP cost of $39,460 (selling price less rebate). I haven't yet gone back to him to tell him to roll all of the upfront payments into the lease rate.

I couldn't tie out to his quoted initial payment of $1,936.14 - he told me that was first month's plus acquisition plus DMV fees. Even when I break all those out to upfront payments, that number still seemed high to me.

I get the same numbers, then.. The rebate is taxable, upfront, and could make up the difference in upfront money. I agree that the tax number seems to be irrelevant to the lease deal. You see a lot of "informational" lines about taxes on the screenshot deals, that aren't actually part of the calculation. That looks like the tax on a purchase. Is this quote from a NY dealer?

Thanks for confirming my math. Gives me at least a little more confidence that I'm not being hoodwinked (not that I am cynical, or anything....)!

Yes, quote from a dealer in Westchester county.

bmwbetty

looking for input on x1 lease:
san francisco bay area- msrp 44045, sell 40960, 2k mi/36 mo, mf .00152, rv .58, $1500 rebate
good deal?
based on 6k down- first time leaser- what’s best?

bmwbetty

bmwbetty said:

looking for input on x1 lease:
san francisco bay area- msrp 44045, sell 40960, 2k mi/36 mo, mf .00152, rv .58, $1500 rebate
good deal?
based on 6k down- first time leaser- what’s best?

meant 12 k mi annual 

kyfdx

bmwbetty said:

bmwbetty said:

looking for input on x1 lease:
san francisco bay area- msrp 44045, sell 40960, 2k mi/36 mo, mf .00152, rv .58, $1500 rebate
good deal?
based on 6k down- first time leaser- what’s best?

meant 12 k mi annual 

.00152 MF and 58% residual is correct for 36/12.

The price looks good.
You don't mention the payment quote.
I wouldn't put $6K upfront to rent a vehicle.

bmwbetty

kyfdx said:

bmwbetty said:

looking for input on x1 lease:
san francisco bay area- msrp 44045, sell 40960, 2k mi/36 mo, mf .00152, rv .58, $1500 rebate
good deal?
based on 6k down- first time leaser- what’s best?

meant 12 k mi annual 

.00152 MF and 58% residual is correct for 36/12. The price looks good. You don't mention the payment quote. I wouldn't put $6K upfront to rent a vehicle.

thanks! sorry, it was $5000 up front plus the 1500. 35 payments at $411 mo, $446 w tax. what is ‘fair’ for up front?

bmwbetty

kyfdx said:

bmwbetty said:

looking for input on x1 lease:
san francisco bay area- msrp 44045, sell 40960, 2k mi/36 mo, mf .00152, rv .58, $1500 rebate
good deal?
based on 6k down- first time leaser- what’s best?

meant 12 k mi annual 

.00152 MF and 58% residual is correct for 36/12. The price looks good. You don't mention the payment quote. I wouldn't put $6K upfront to rent a vehicle.

thanks! sorry, it was $5000 up front plus the 1500. 35 payments at $411 mo, $446 w tax. what is ‘fair’ for up front?

Michaell

bmwbetty said:

kyfdx said:

bmwbetty said:

looking for input on x1 lease:
san francisco bay area- msrp 44045, sell 40960, 2k mi/36 mo, mf .00152, rv .58, $1500 rebate
good deal?
based on 6k down- first time leaser- what’s best?

meant 12 k mi annual 

.00152 MF and 58% residual is correct for 36/12.

The price looks good.
You don't mention the payment quote.
I wouldn't put $6K upfront to rent a vehicle.

thanks! sorry, it was $5000 up front plus the 1500. 35 payments at $411 mo, $446 w tax. what is ‘fair’ for up front?


We recommend only the first payment and the DMV costs be paid when you sign the paperwork - add all the other fees (bank fee, etc.) into the cap cost and the lease payment

kyfdx

bmwbetty said:

kyfdx said:

bmwbetty said:

looking for input on x1 lease:
san francisco bay area- msrp 44045, sell 40960, 2k mi/36 mo, mf .00152, rv .58, $1500 rebate
good deal?
based on 6k down- first time leaser- what’s best?

meant 12 k mi annual 

.00152 MF and 58% residual is correct for 36/12.

The price looks good.
You don't mention the payment quote.
I wouldn't put $6K upfront to rent a vehicle.

thanks! sorry, it was $5000 up front plus the 1500. 35 payments at $411 mo, $446 w tax. what is ‘fair’ for up front?


Ideally, just first payment and DMV fees upfront.
Adding in the acquisition fee, $80 doc fee, $128 tax on rebate, then subtracting the $1500 rebate, I get an adjusted CAP cost of $40,593.
That results in a payment of $519/mo.+tax. At 8.5% rate = $563/mo.
Due at signing = $563 + $500 DMV = $1063.

It's about the same deal... just less upfront and more in the payment.

bmwbetty

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

bmwbetty said:

looking for input on x1 lease:
san francisco bay area- msrp 44045, sell 40960, 2k mi/36 mo, mf .00152, rv .58, $1500 rebate
good deal?
based on 6k down- first time leaser- what’s best?

meant 12 k mi annual 

.00152 MF and 58% residual is correct for 36/12. The price looks good. You don't mention the payment quote. I wouldn't put $6K upfront to rent a vehicle.

thanks! sorry, it was $5000 up front plus the 1500. 35 payments at $411 mo, $446 w tax. what is ‘fair’ for up front?

We recommend only the first payment and the DMV costs be paid when you sign the paperwork - add all the other fees (bank fee, etc.) into the cap cost and the lease payment

thank you so much! at the original down(5000+ 1500) does the monthly sound about right? there’s a 80 doc fee, 540 license and 925 acq fee. which ones go into cap cost?

Michaell

bmwbetty said:

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

bmwbetty said:

looking for input on x1 lease:
san francisco bay area- msrp 44045, sell 40960, 2k mi/36 mo, mf .00152, rv .58, $1500 rebate
good deal?
based on 6k down- first time leaser- what’s best?

meant 12 k mi annual 

.00152 MF and 58% residual is correct for 36/12.

The price looks good.
You don't mention the payment quote.
I wouldn't put $6K upfront to rent a vehicle.

thanks! sorry, it was $5000 up front plus the 1500. 35 payments at $411 mo, $446 w tax. what is ‘fair’ for up front?


We recommend only the first payment and the DMV costs be paid when you sign the paperwork - add all the other fees (bank fee, etc.) into the cap cost and the lease payment

thank you so much! at the original down(5000+ 1500) does the monthly sound about right? there’s a 80 doc fee, 540 license and 925 acq fee. which ones go into cap cost?

Doc and acquisition fee should go into the cap cost.

fcowrx

March MF and Residual for 36mo/10k miles in Miami, FL? Any incentives?

kyfdx

fcowrx said:

March MF and Residual for 36mo/10k miles in Miami, FL? Any incentives?

.00156 MF and 59% residual
No incentive info

michaelk8

What are current March MF and Residual for 36mo/10k miles in California?
Thanks in advance!

Michaell

michaelk8 said:

What are current March MF and Residual for 36mo/10k miles in California?
Thanks in advance!

.00156 and 59%

kerem500

Can I have the number for the X1 xdrive28
State: NJ
Term: 36/10k

kyfdx

kerem500 said:

Can I have the number for the X1 xdrive28
State: NJ
Term: 36/10k

.00156 MF and 59% residual
$1500 lease credit

emc_la

What are current March MF and Residual for 36mo/12k miles in California?
Thank you in advance!

kyfdx

emc_la said:

What are current March MF and Residual for 36mo/12k miles in California?
Thank you in advance!

.00156 MF and 58% residual
$1500 lease credit

niranjans

Looking to lease a 2018 X1 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Dealer tells me base MF is 0.00152. Is this accurate? What sort of a mark up is reasonable, or should I press on the base MF? What's the RV for 36/10k?

I'm a returning client, so they tell me I'm eligible for a loyalty discount (not sure what that actual number is...they are going to send me some estimates EOD today). Previously leased 2017 X1 was totaled in no-fault accident and waiting for the settlement. I came ahead in the initial insurance settlement, but building a rebuttal to see if I can reclaim a bit more of my down payment.

Last time they also charged a doc fee of $350 and a "permit" fee of $165. Was I taken for a ride there?

2018 BMW X1 xDrive28i with sports seats

I'm interested in this ^ one. Says $2000 incentive and $3000 cash offer (not really sure what that means. Can someone please explain?).

Given that I'm going zero down this time, what would be a good offer, taking into account the above incentives? I'd like to keep monthly+tax < $500.

I read < 1% from MSRP for monthly+tax is a good deal and that I should try to shave off 7% from MSRP. But, curious if that's realistic with zero down. Very much appreciate the feedback. I'll post some concrete numbers here once I get the estimates. Thanks.

kyfdx

niranjans said:

Looking to lease a 2018 X1 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Dealer tells me base MF is 0.00152. Is this accurate? What sort of a mark up is reasonable, or should I press on the base MF? What's the RV for 36/10k?

I'm a returning client, so they tell me I'm eligible for a loyalty discount (not sure what that actual number is...they are going to send me some estimates EOD today). Previously leased 2017 X1 was totaled in no-fault accident and waiting for the settlement. I came ahead in the initial insurance settlement, but building a rebuttal to see if I can reclaim a bit more of my down payment.

Last time they also charged a doc fee of $350 and a "permit" fee of $165. Was I taken for a ride there?

2018 BMW X1 xDrive28i with sports seats

I'm interested in this ^ one. Says $2000 incentive and $3000 cash offer (not really sure what that means. Can someone please explain?).

Given that I'm going zero down this time, what would be a good offer, taking into account the above incentives? I'd like to keep monthly+tax < $500.

I read < 1% from MSRP for monthly+tax is a good deal and that I should try to shave off 7% from MSRP. But, curious if that's realistic with zero down. Very much appreciate the feedback. I'll post some concrete numbers here once I get the estimates. Thanks.

.00156 MF and 59% residual for 36/10
Insist on the base rate.
$1500 lease credit
$1000 loyalty
Can't speak to the fees you were charged before, other than doc fees are charged by the dealer, and don't pay for anything specific.

Looks like the "offers" in your link are generic, and not connected specifically to that X1.

1% of MSRP probably isn't realistic, given the lease program.

Example:
$43560 MSRP
$40,511 selling price (7% off)
-$2500 incentive
$38,011 price
+$925 acquisition fee
$38,936 adjusted CAP
.00156 MF
59% residual
$469/mo.+tax
Due at signing: 1st payment, dealer/DMV fees, sales tax on $2500 incentive

niranjans

Thanks so much, kyfdx. This is really helpful.

niranjans

Got this price breakdown from the dealer for 36/10k in Utah.

MSRP $40,895
Savings $5,430 (I believe this includes a loyalty discount)
Selling $35,465
Tax $2,524
Fees $610 (doc fees, lic & title, permit fee, property assessment???, tire recycling???)

Total $38,599

Dealer claims payment is $490/mo with zero down.

Is this a decent deal? I plugged in the numbers and looks like the sales price is 13% off MSRP and a tax rate of 7.11%. With residual 59%, it looks like they are using a MF close to 0.00196. Although the MF is quite high, I'm wondering if the 13% off of MSRP justifies this. Monthly+tax is 1.19% of MSRP. Thoughts?

Vehicle Specs

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

kyfdx

niranjans said:

Got this price breakdown from the dealer for 36/10k in Utah.

MSRP $40,895
Savings $5,430 (I believe this includes a loyalty discount)
Selling $35,465
Tax $2,524
Fees $610 (doc fees, lic & title, permit fee, property assessment???, tire recycling???)

Total $38,599

Dealer claims payment is $490/mo with zero down.

Is this a decent deal? I plugged in the numbers and looks like the sales price is 13% off MSRP and a tax rate of 7.11%. With residual 59%, it looks like they are using a MF close to 0.00196. Although the MF is quite high, I'm wondering if the 13% off of MSRP justifies this. Monthly+tax is 1.19% of MSRP. Thoughts?

Vehicle Specs

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

If the car has $2500 incentive from BMW, then the dealer discount is closer to 7%. (which is not bad)
Doesn't Utah tax the monthly payment on a lease? They don't collect it upfront, do they?

That's how they make it hard to check the numbers.. they give you numbers that aren't applicable to a lease, and omit others that are ($925 acquisition fee?)

If I take out the tax, but add the acquisition fee, I get an adjusted CAP of $37,000. That's probably not exactly it, because I haven't accounted for upfront tax on the $2500 incentive.
But, with $37K as the adjusted CAP, and .00156 MF and 59% residual, I get:
$453/mo.+tax.
If tax is 8%, that makes it $489/mo.

But, of course, you should ask them for the adjusted CAP cost, and the money factor used.
Also, find out what "$0 down" means, exactly. Is that $490 due at signing? Or, $490 + XYZ?

niranjans

Thank kyfdx. I will contact them and request a detailed breakdown and stress on the points you identified. Any idea what this property assessment and tire recycling fees are? Are they common in leases?

kyfdx

niranjans said:

Thank kyfdx. I will contact them and request a detailed breakdown and stress on the points you identified. Any idea what this property assessment and tire recycling fees are? Are they common in leases?

Tire fees are charged on all new tires, whether on a car, or from the tire store. It's to pay to clean up old tire dumps.

I don't know what property assessment is, but I'll guess out of the whole $610, at least half of it is for a dealer fee that pays for nothing.

Those aren't lease specific fees. Just the same fees you'd pay on any new car.

ssm7999

Hi,
Can you provide the RV, MF and incentives for 36/10 on 2018 sDrive X1 in TX? Thanks in advance

kyfdx

ssm7999 said:

Hi,
Can you provide the RV, MF and incentives for 36/10 on 2018 sDrive X1 in TX? Thanks in advance

.00156 MF and 59% residual
$1500 lease credit

yourhymas

Wondering if I could get some feedback on an offer I was given today in Utah, picture attached. MF is marked up all the way, but there seems to be a good discount as well. Anything I’m missing, or does this seem like a decent offer?

the finance guy came out to show me “how good a deal this is” because they are losing $5k on the deal. 
 

Michaell

yourhymas said:

Wondering if I could get some feedback on an offer I was given today in Utah, picture attached. MF is marked up all the way, but there seems to be a good discount as well. Anything I’m missing, or does this seem like a decent offer?

the finance guy came out to show me “how good a deal this is” because they are losing $5k on the deal. 
 

I agree with the math on that worksheet ... but, let's review:

1. $2000 of that discount is money coming from BMW, and they're taking back almost $800 in 'back end' (MF bump?). The net discount is just under 7%, which isn't bad, but not quite as good as the dealer makes it seem
2. I'd push for the base MF; have you shopped any other dealers yet? You should....
3. We aren't big fans of cash down on leases - just the first payment and registration fees due at signing
4. I wouldn't believe it when they say they "are losing $5K on the deal".

You've got a decent discount from sticker; push to see what you can do on the MF, and don't be afraid to walk.

yourhymas

Michaell said:

yourhymas said:

Wondering if I could get some feedback on an offer I was given today in Utah, picture attached. MF is marked up all the way, but there seems to be a good discount as well. Anything I’m missing, or does this seem like a decent offer?

the finance guy came out to show me “how good a deal this is” because they are losing $5k on the deal. 
 

I agree with the math on that worksheet ... but, let's review:

1. $2000 of that discount is money coming from BMW, and they're taking back almost $800 in 'back end' (MF bump?). The net discount is just under 7%, which isn't bad, but not quite as good as the dealer makes it seem
2. I'd push for the base MF; have you shopped any other dealers yet? You should....
3. We aren't big fans of cash down on leases - just the first payment and registration fees due at signing
4. I wouldn't believe it when they say they "are losing $5K on the deal".

You've got a decent discount from sticker; push to see what you can do on the MF, and don't be afraid to walk.

Michaell, thanks for the feedback.

I believe the net dealer discount is actually about 12%, if I'm not mistaken?

MSRP: $47,885
Total discount: $8,664
Dealer discount: $8,664 - $2,000 = $6,664
Net dealer discount: $6,664 - $778 = $5,886

$5,886 / $47,885 = ~12.3%

There's only one dealer in the state of Utah, so I'm kind of stuck in that regard (two dealerships, same owner). I plan on pushing for the base MF, and I don't believe for one second they are "losing $5k" on this offer. This was their initial offer, without any negotiations whatsoever; you don't start with your best offer, so I imagine there's at least a little room to move.

The cash down is there because this deal was initially worked off of a "special" they were advertising on their site with $2,018 due at signing. I'm planning on getting rid of the cap reduction payment.

Michaell

yourhymas said:

Michaell said:

yourhymas said:

Wondering if I could get some feedback on an offer I was given today in Utah, picture attached. MF is marked up all the way, but there seems to be a good discount as well. Anything I’m missing, or does this seem like a decent offer?

the finance guy came out to show me “how good a deal this is” because they are losing $5k on the deal. 
 

I agree with the math on that worksheet ... but, let's review:

1. $2000 of that discount is money coming from BMW, and they're taking back almost $800 in 'back end' (MF bump?). The net discount is just under 7%, which isn't bad, but not quite as good as the dealer makes it seem
2. I'd push for the base MF; have you shopped any other dealers yet? You should....
3. We aren't big fans of cash down on leases - just the first payment and registration fees due at signing
4. I wouldn't believe it when they say they "are losing $5K on the deal".

You've got a decent discount from sticker; push to see what you can do on the MF, and don't be afraid to walk.

Michaell, thanks for the feedback.

I believe the net dealer discount is actually about 12%, if I'm not mistaken?

MSRP: $47,885
Total discount: $8,664
Dealer discount: $8,664 - $2,000 = $6,664
Net dealer discount: $6,664 - $778 = $5,886

$5,886 / $47,885 = ~12.3%

There's only one dealer in the state of Utah, so I'm kind of stuck in that regard (two dealerships, same owner). I plan on pushing for the base MF, and I don't believe for one second they are "losing $5k" on this offer. This was their initial offer, without any negotiations whatsoever; you don't start with your best offer, so I imagine there's at least a little room to move.

The cash down is there because this deal was initially worked off of a "special" they were advertising on their site with $2,018 due at signing. I'm planning on getting rid of the cap reduction payment.

Shop Denver and Las Vegas - get a better deal, and a road trip out of it.

Keep us posted on the state of the negotiations.

yourhymas

Michaell said:

Wondering if I could get some feedback on an offer I was given today in Utah, picture attached. MF is marked up all the way, but there seems to be a good discount as well. Anything I’m missing, or does this seem like a decent offer?

the finance guy came out to show me “how good a deal this is” because they are losing $5k on the deal. 
 

I agree with the math on that worksheet ... but, let's review: 1. $2000 of that discount is money coming from BMW, and they're taking back almost $800 in 'back end' (MF bump?). The net discount is just under 7%, which isn't bad, but not quite as good as the dealer makes it seem 2. I'd push for the base MF; have you shopped any other dealers yet? You should.... 3. We aren't big fans of cash down on leases - just the first payment and registration fees due at signing 4. I wouldn't believe it when they say they "are losing $5K on the deal". You've got a decent discount from sticker; push to see what you can do on the MF, and don't be afraid to walk.

Michaell, thanks for the feedback. I believe the net dealer discount is actually about 12%, if I'm not mistaken? MSRP: $47,885 Total discount: $8,664 Dealer discount: $8,664 - $2,000 = $6,664 Net dealer discount: $6,664 - $778 = $5,886 $5,886 / $47,885 = ~12.3% There's only one dealer in the state of Utah, so I'm kind of stuck in that regard (two dealerships, same owner). I plan on pushing for the base MF, and I don't believe for one second they are "losing $5k" on this offer. This was their initial offer, without any negotiations whatsoever; you don't start with your best offer, so I imagine there's at least a little room to move. The cash down is there because this deal was initially worked off of a "special" they were advertising on their site with $2,018 due at signing. I'm planning on getting rid of the cap reduction payment.

Shop Denver and Las Vegas - get a better deal, and a road trip out of it. Keep us posted on the state of the negotiations.

I’ll look into nearby states, thanks for the tip. As for the discount off of sticker, am I right that it’s 12% ish or am I mathing wrong? If it is around 12%, I would assume it’s a good deal and maybe it’s useless to try to force the MF down further or look in other states. 

Michaell

yourhymas said:

Michaell said:

Wondering if I could get some feedback on an offer I was given today in Utah, picture attached. MF is marked up all the way, but there seems to be a good discount as well. Anything I’m missing, or does this seem like a decent offer?

the finance guy came out to show me “how good a deal this is” because they are losing $5k on the deal. 
 

I agree with the math on that worksheet ... but, let's review:

1. $2000 of that discount is money coming from BMW, and they're taking back almost $800 in 'back end' (MF bump?). The net discount is just under 7%, which isn't bad, but not quite as good as the dealer makes it seem
2. I'd push for the base MF; have you shopped any other dealers yet? You should....
3. We aren't big fans of cash down on leases - just the first payment and registration fees due at signing
4. I wouldn't believe it when they say they "are losing $5K on the deal".

You've got a decent discount from sticker; push to see what you can do on the MF, and don't be afraid to walk.

Michaell, thanks for the feedback.

I believe the net dealer discount is actually about 12%, if I'm not mistaken?

MSRP: $47,885
Total discount: $8,664
Dealer discount: $8,664 - $2,000 = $6,664
Net dealer discount: $6,664 - $778 = $5,886

$5,886 / $47,885 = ~12.3%

There's only one dealer in the state of Utah, so I'm kind of stuck in that regard (two dealerships, same owner). I plan on pushing for the base MF, and I don't believe for one second they are "losing $5k" on this offer. This was their initial offer, without any negotiations whatsoever; you don't start with your best offer, so I imagine there's at least a little room to move.

The cash down is there because this deal was initially worked off of a "special" they were advertising on their site with $2,018 due at signing. I'm planning on getting rid of the cap reduction payment.

Shop Denver and Las Vegas - get a better deal, and a road trip out of it.

Keep us posted on the state of the negotiations.

I’ll look into nearby states, thanks for the tip. As for the discount off of sticker, am I right that it’s 12% ish or am I mathing wrong? If it is around 12%, I would assume it’s a good deal and maybe it’s useless to try to force the MF down further or look in other states. 

Anything over 7% is a strong discount for BMW, and the dealer is likely trying to claw some of that back with the marked up MF.

You may have to give some of that discount back should you push for the base MF.

schnauzer01

Rate and residual for a 2018 sdrive loaner?
36/15k in Florida if that matters
Thank you
The vehicle has 3900 miles. Is that calculate at .25/mile to the residual?

Michaell

schnauzer01 said:

Rate and residual for a 2018 sdrive loaner?
36/15k in Florida if that matters
Thank you
The vehicle has 3900 miles. Is that calculate at .25/mile to the residual?

.00156 and 56%
$1500 lease cash

Yes, deduct .25/mile for the loaner miles

ssm7999

I got this quote for a loaner BMW X1 in TX
msrp: 37150
sale price: 30650
tax+fees: 2350
monthly payment with $1000 down : $424
mileage on the vehicle is 3600
Is this a reasonable quote?
Thanks!

Michaell

ssm7999 said:

I got this quote for a loaner BMW X1 in TX
msrp: 37150
sale price: 30650
tax+fees: 2350
monthly payment with $1000 down : $424
mileage on the vehicle is 3600
Is this a reasonable quote?
Thanks!

Is that all tax and fees? Any tax credits in play?
What lease term and how many miles per year?