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24/12
24/15
36/12
36/15
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.00188 and 64% / 58%
$5000 lease credit
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Wanted to know if this is a good deal and if not what i should possibly counter with. Both of these are loaners.
2018 330I MSRP 47,145 3500 lease credit 1000 loyalty and 6250 disc= $10,750 has 3600 miles on it
1000 drive off 483/mo INCLUDING TAX 10k/year
2000 drive off 452/mo INCLUDING TAX 10k/year
3000 drive off 421/mo INCLUDING TAX 10k/year
320i
MSRP 44895, 3000 lease credit 1000 loyalty and 5250 disc = $9250 has 4500 miles on it
1000 drive off 496/mo INCLUDING TAX 10k/year
2000 drive off 465/mo INCLUDING TAX 10k/year
3000 drive off 434/mo INCLUDING TAX 10k/year
both have residual of 60% and MF of .00188
Would think it would be a higher percentage disc off of the MSRP for loaners (not sure what's fair for a lease credit or loyalty) and just want to know what would be a fair deal.
Zip code is 90015
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Those quotes are close, but I suspect you can get a little more off each offer.
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$5000 lease credit
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP is $50,890 and sales price is $42,690 and their initial offer was $593 plus tax ($633) with only 1st payment due at signing.
$4500 lease credit
I get $515/mo+tax, without adding any fees or upfront taxes.
Need about $2600 in extras added to get that payment.
Or, some amount less than that, plus a marked up money factor.
Ask for the adjusted CAP cost, and an accounting of how they calculated it.
$8200 off sounds great, but considering the large rebate, it's just average.
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24/10 & 36/10! Thanks!
Did they give you the residual amount?
On a short lease, with a high MSRP car, the extra to move up to 12K/yr is going to be relatively expensive. $25/mo. more. Still cheaper than paying for an extra 4000 miles at lease end, though.
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66%/60% residual for 24/36 mo
$3000/$3500 lease credit for 320/330
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Its only $0.20 per mile after the 20k.
Are you sure there isn't anything left out of that?
Do you have a breakdown of the numbers?
Even with a max markup of the money factor from .00188 to .00228, I'm only up to $342/mo
$0.20/mi X 4000 miles is $800
Taking the 12K/yr allowance adds $554
(but, I think the mileage penalty at lease end is $0.25/mi.)
You are looking at a good deal, either way. (leasing a $55K MSRP vehicle for under $400/mo), but the numbers don't add up.
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The adjusted cap cost is $45,297.93 ($899 doc fee, 238 bank fee, 282 taxes on fees, $925 bank acquisition fee, $185 registration fee are the big ticket ones). Said he was using 188 as money factor and 57% residual. He also said that I was rolling the inception fees into the lease and I asked what those were but he didn't explain further.
I'm just a $1 off that quote, using those numbers.
The only way to improve on it is to get a bigger discount from sticker, or use MSDs to buy down the MF.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
That gives me $379/mo.
Looks like the loaner residual program got worse, this month. 9% reduction before mileage adjustment, instead of the 6% reduction, previously
$23-$24/mo. to move up to 12K/yr
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And, at some point, BMW will simply pull lease support for the 2018's. Not saying it will happen next month, but it will happen eventually.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2018 BMW 330i xDrive
2,535 miles
36/10
I will be putting down 7 MSDs
00153.00 MF
$29,734.25 Residual
Location: CT
With 0 down (other than the $2,800 MSDs) I was given a monthly quote of $456.74
Attached is the breakdown provided with 1st month, acquisition fee, doc fees and MSD's. Not sure how this adds up. Was quoted $396.56 monthly.
Was told this is the last of the 2018 330i xDrives. Actually went in for an X1 but was told this is a better deal. Lease is up third week in March.
Thank you!
Not much you can do to improve, other than to get more of a discount off sticker. As a demo, you should try to get 15% off MSRP.
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$5000 lease credit
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Also any incentives please and MF
thank you
$3000 lease credit
Depending on mileage, there will be a residual reduction, and possible loss of the incentives
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330i, 36/10k, monthly $310+tax, drive off $5k. I was told the rate is 2.28. sale price is $41xxx. I think the dealer gave me $5k rebate which included royalty.
Thanks in advance.
What is your location?
The money factor is marked up from .00188
I wouldn't put $5000 upfront on a lease.
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And, no way is there $2700 worth of fees in CA:
$925 acquisition fee (roll into payment)
DMV costs (usually 1.1% of MSRP, or $500-ish)
$85 doc fee (capped by law in CA; roll into payment)
The only up front monies you should pay are the first payment, the MSDs, and the DMV costs.
Max 7 MSDs, that is true.
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You are on your way to a good deal, especially if you can get them back to the base MF of .00188.
But, you need all of the numbers.
.00188 MF and 60% residual
$4000 lease credit (customer rebate)
MSDs will save you about $1000, over the life of the lease, once you factor in the return of those deposits at lease end. Since you obviously have the funds to make the deposits, it's a no-brainer.
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2018 328d (10K/24mo, 12K/24mo, 10K/36mo,12K /36mo)
2018 330e (10K/24mo, 12K/24mo, 10K/36mo,12K /36mo)
2018 330i (10K/24mo, 12K/24mo, 10K/36mo,12K /36mo)
2018 320i (10K/24mo, 12K/24mo, 10K/36mo,12K /36mo)
90068. Thanks!
.00188 MF
Residuals
320i / 330i - 65% / 59%
328d / 330e - 66% / 60%
Lease credits
$3000 - 320i
$4000 - 330i
$4500 - 328d
$6500 - 330e
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Lease credit
$4000 i
$6500 e
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Residuals for 91941
2018 BMW 328d 36/15
2018 BMW 330i 36/15
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328d: 58% residual. $4500 lease credit
330i: 57% residual. $4000 lease credit
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can i I please have the residual, MF and actual rebate on a new and an ex loaner 340i xdrive. 26501 is my zip, dealer is in virginia
36 months, 12 k a year.
also any information on a broker in PA or WV? I’m getting increasingly frustrated with dealers marking things up including the rebates offered through BMW. SOS
$4000 lease credit
There will be an adjustment to the residual based on the miles - how many does the car have on it?
No info on brokers - why would you need one if you found this site and are researching here?
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Are the numbers based on my ZIP code or the dealers? And btw I really do appreciate the work you do here, you have given me tons of information this past month.
Zip is 01746.
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Are the numbers based on my ZIP code or the dealers? And btw I really do appreciate the work you do here, you have given me tons of information this past month.
You're just paying someone to do the negotiating for you … and, they aren't free.
With the prices given, I get a payment of $424/mo, plus tax, assuming all fees and such are paid up front.
Numbers are based on dealer location.
And, the math is the math. If you know what numbers the dealer is using to get their payment quote, you can figure out how to counter it.
Tell them you won't sign any deal if the MF is not the base rate.
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.00188 MF and 58% residual
$5000 lease credit
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$5000 lease credit in your ZIP
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When I got the lease quote it seemed very high. I requested an received the quoted selling price. This was $49,949, which was simply the MSRP less the BMW lease cash and loyalty cash.
It would seem to me this dealer would have, at a minimum, included the advertised selling price as the capitalized cost.
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