By accessing this website, you acknowledge that Edmunds and its third party business partners may use cookies, pixels, and similar technologies to collect information about you and your interactions with the website as described in our
Privacy Statement, and you agree that your use of the website is subject to our
Visitor Agreement.
Comments
Question for you off topic a bit:
I will be keeping the 205/16 Blizzaks tires off the old BMW(selling rims separatley) and wondering if I get new 16" rims thru tirerack, will they work? I know the IS comes with 17" wheels and much wider tires, so thats why I ask. I think the all seasons won't cut it next winter here in WI.
Take care,
Brandon
Anyway, just thought you all should know what a little dealing can get you if you are patient.
Good luck,
Brandon
IS 350/Blue Onyx w beige interior.
Premium pkg
18' 5 spoke alloy whls
Accessory pks (cargo net, trunk mat, wheel locks)
Spoiler
MSRP: 38589
Invoice: 34189
(This incl. 443 advertising fee that Lexus charges the dealer. Invoice (per KBB) is 33746, add the 443 to this for the total invoice price. Two different dealers told me this, and it seems to be true from all the Internet car consumer sites. But don't EVER let them charge this separately...its already included in the invoice price).
My final price: 35,943 + tax + lic + doc fee (45).
1754 > invoice
Car was on the lot, picked up same day.
In my opinion, the smart play is to pick the car you want, make an offer around 1500 over invoice (doubt you'll get any better right now) and see if they will counter-offer. Then use the counteroffer to play them off each other. I have been looking like crazy, and every dealership has some 350's they are trying to move, esp in less popular colors. Longer the cars are on the lot, less holdback money they save. At these numbers, most of the sales guys won't even return calls because they won't make any money. But toward the end of the month, when the sales quotas are coming up, you can get a deal.
Also, KBB is the best place to work out the exact invoice price, they break down all the options and describe them as they appear on the sticker.
I really think the market is softening just a little.
Good luck!
On the base 250 (they all now come with LuxPkg), I'm hearing upto 2k off is max right now. Maybe more if you are getting options like 18" wheels. I'm in the mid-west where demand is not as hot. Too cold and snowy for anything but the AWD model. Of course dealers say AWD is in such high demand, and if you mention RWD, "we'll those are hard to come by and Rare, so order time is lengthy and the Rarity means they don't deal much." They got a line for everything. Rare is an NSX with Automatic a year or two after they came out, not a Lexus as much production as possible car. Rare would be a IS250/350 without Leather...
Brake pads not expected to last 20,000 miles!
Tire life SUBSTANTIALLY less than 20K (17 inch) & less than 15K (18 inch)!
I understand extra performance will cost extra - but I did not expect a brake job and new tires every 18 months.
The selection of tires in 225 40 18 and 255 40 18 is very limited - so I don't see very many options - it would not be that big of a deal if the stock tires did not last very long - if my second set would go 30K.
Anyone know what Lexus gets for a basic brake job? I am guessing around $1,000 - The last time I had a brake job done at a Toyota dealership (way back in 1996) it was almost $700.
I am having second thoughts - but on the other hand - at least Lexus tells you up front what to expect.
deal now. Gonna check it out this weekend.
Please read the message in RED below this message..
Thanks,
kyfdx
Host-Prices Paid Forums
Edmunds Price Checker
Edmunds Lease Calculator
Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!
Edmunds Moderator
Thanks
I'm pretty happy getting $2k off MSRP plus a free Sirius subscription from Longo. I've found that the best way to get a deal is to email and talk to MANY dealerships (I talked to ~10 dealerships, 50 mi radius of Los Angeles) and pit the top 2 against each other for your business. On a sidenote, fleet pricing from AAA or COSTCO do not offer as much discount as putting 2 dealerships up against each other.
Just 6 more days before its delivered to my door!!! :P
It started over 90days ago when I ordered a IS350, I ordered with M.L sound system
And the Luxury package, the Mark Levinson was on the sheet that you could order alone, with NO Nav. So 3 months later, the dealer says the Factory is not making it that way yet and don’t know when they will.
The strange thing is that they had the Same Car coming in with my name on it with NAV.
I did not order it that way, its only a 3000.00 UP Grade! I don’t need it.
It’s the old Bait and switch, or Super Size Me!
I was so Pissed off I called Lexus Corporate, they want things to go well with there dealers, they are very nice and helpful.
If any one has any Problems with dealers you have to call Lexus Corporate, they will
Shake up the dealer.
End result, The dealer thinks it no big deal they wasted over 3 monthes of my time. The price will have to be low on this Car. :mad:
Thanks,
kyfdx
Edmunds Price Checker
Edmunds Lease Calculator
Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!
Edmunds Moderator
The handling is smooth like butter! I have to admit the navigation will take some getting used to and a keyless ignition/entry is a beautful thing. The sound system is top notch and the perforated/ventilated leather seats are uber-luxurious for your typical urban commuter. I can't wait to take this puppy on a road trip and really get to know all the ins and outs of the nav features! :shades:
BTW what made u pick the SGM over the Black? And is the SGM more like a washed-out black sort of like metallic black? I had to ask since I havent seen one up close and the internet pics, just dont do justice! THANKS
Check out the IS brochure if you *happen* to stop by a Lexus dealership, I must warn you though--there are some heartstopping photo spreads in that full sized issue! You've been warned... :P
Luxury pkg w/ 18" Wheel
Navi/Levinson
Accessory pkg
Spoiler
I got it for pretty decent deal. About $3000 off from the MSRP.
Is this true?
Then, I would recommend talking to several Internet Fleet Mgrs in LA County (there are several dealerships all listed at Lexus.com) and ask each one what the lowest price they can offer on the exact vehicle you want. Take the top 2 or 3 and tell them what the other is offering. I guarantee that someone will want your business enough to out-do the other, especially given that its quarter-end for the auto industry and I'm sure every dealership and salesperson wants to make their numbers. Note that within the dealership there may be more than one Internet Mgr and each wheel and deal differently. So if one gives you the "oh, I can't do better than x amount of dollars," try another Internet Mgr at the same dealership.
Good luck! With a bit of legwork, you can get a far better deal behind-the-scenes than to ever walk into a dealership unsure about how much to pay and what vehicle you want. Salespeople will take advantage of the unknowing customer, but as the saying goes, a fool and his money are soon parted.
I bought the car yesterday. Here are the details of my deal:
IS 250 Manual base
Premium Plus pkg
18" rims
MSRP 31494
Dealer Invoice (I saw what they paid, but don't remember the exact price but it was close to 28100)
I paid 28750...$650 over dealer invoice!
All but two dealers balked at my bid. Believe it or not I could have done slightly better. One dealer was ready to improve his offer at the last minute. I would highly recommend either dealership, because of their willingness to deal with the customer.
I'm looking to purchase the vehicle in LA county too. Which dealer did you get that deal that?
I got the IS250 from Safro Lexus in Brookfield WI. It took quite a bit of negotiating back and forth with another dealer to get to this price. I dealt with internet managers out of IL and then came back to Brookfield to see if they would match it and they did plus $200. The key here is to be patient and don't settle for the B.S. line "they only sell for MSRP".
Good luck and if you need any more info don't hesitate to ask me.
Brandon
i need some advice also on how to get the best deal. i just cant pay sticker. i have an 05 Altima i want to trade in as well.. thanks i appreciate all the help anyone can provide :-)
How did I get my price? I basically I was doing what Greche recommended. I contacted all the Internet fleet managers explained that I was going to buy the car cash at the end of the month...which ended up being the end of the week..I couldn't wait any longer. Once they knew I was serious and I got a good price I put a deposit on a car at that price. Then I contacted the other dealers, told them I put a deposit on a car, gave them the price to see if they could better it. I also told them what I wanted to pay...trying to leave some money in the deal (although I'm sure they made good money despite my extremely below market bid). Some dealers balked at my bid, that left Glendale and Oxnard. I'd reccomend either dealership, because they are serious about moving cars. Ironically, the internet fleet manager at Santa Monica was the one who convinced me to put the deposit on the car in Oxnard. He said if I'm "really" getting that price he'd buy one.
If you're in this forum you're probably ahead of the curve. Make sure you do your research, know the prices (both invoice and MSRP), know what options you want, recognize when you're getting a good deal and be able to put your money down.
No extra/hidden fees or games from the dealer. No last minute changes on the price either. After getting frustrated by contacting multiple dealerships and getting the MSRP only, or $500 off line, Park Place was able to give me a decent price on the car (compared to others in the same area), and they made the whole purchase process totally painless.
Luxury Package with 18" wheels and Navigation
Is this price reasonable it is approx $2000 over invoice?
Thanks for your help!
P.S. - The 250 is non all wheel drive
Chris
And, to make it sweeter I got 2k of MSRP.
Dave, in Chicago