2018 Ford Expedition Lease Deals and Prices

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    cats13 said:

    Michaell said:

    cats13 said:

    kyfdx said:

    cats13 said:

    cats13 said:

    Would appreciate your help with current MF, residual and incentives on a 4wd expedition platinum in 37215 zip with either 36/12 or 36/15

    Sorry, please also include same info for the Limited 4wd
    53% residual
    Just want to check dealer math on the following offer for a 2018 Expedition Limited (Standard w 4wd) on 36/15K in 37215

    MSRP: 72,210
    Dealer Offer Price: 67,060
    Incentives: 3,250
    Out the door price: 63,810
    Title, Registration & Other Fees; 1,622.76 (Acq Fee: 645; Processing Fee 450; License Fee: 111; Local Tax: 84; Cap Reduction Tax: 129.95; TN Business Tax: 202.76)
    Downpayment: 0

    Dealer has base monthly pymt at $804.53, and then an additional $56.32 for taxes. Does this look right?

    Interestingly enough, I called my local county clerk and they said I dont owe any taxes on the lease (or at least they dont collect it)?? Cant be right - never heard of taxes not being collected on a leased vehicle??
    Sales tax is most certainly collected in TN, against the monthly payment.

    I wonder if the county clerk was thinking about personal property tax. I don't know if that's a thing in TN or not.

    Are you paying the fees up front, or adding them to the out the door price?

    Using the MSRP and out the door prices given, I get a payment of $793/mo, assuming 7% sales tax.
    Thanks. Yeah, that's what I thought about the taxes. Can go either way on when to pay fees.

    Is your $793/month including taxes, but excluding the fees?
    It is using the prices you supplied. You tell me if it includes the fees - if not, add approximately $30/mo for every $1000 you add to the price given.

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  • cats13cats13 Member Posts: 34


    It is using the prices you supplied. You tell me if it includes the fees - if not, add approximately $30/mo for every $1000 you add to the price given.

    Appreciate the quick reply!! It does NOT include the fees; they have me paying all those upfront.

    OK, so bottom line, your $793/month includes taxes. So dealer is overcharging by $68/month, or $2,448 over the life of the lease.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    cats13 said:

    It is using the prices you supplied. You tell me if it includes the fees - if not, add approximately $30/mo for every $1000 you add to the price given.

    Appreciate the quick reply!! It does NOT include the fees; they have me paying all those upfront.

    OK, so bottom line, your $793/month includes taxes. So dealer is overcharging by $68/month, or $2,448 over the life of the lease.

    Unless the CAP cost they are using is different from the price you gave me - confirm that with the dealer.

    And, the MF/APR could be marked up, as well - that is pure profit for them.

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  • cats13cats13 Member Posts: 34
    Michaell said:

    cats13 said:

    It is using the prices you supplied. You tell me if it includes the fees - if not, add approximately $30/mo for every $1000 you add to the price given.
    Appreciate the quick reply!! It does NOT include the fees; they have me paying all those upfront.

    OK, so bottom line, your $793/month includes taxes. So dealer is overcharging by $68/month, or $2,448 over the life of the lease.

    Unless the CAP cost they are using is different from the price you gave me - confirm that with the dealer.

    And, the MF/APR could be marked up, as well - that is pure profit for them.

    Thanks Michaell - Super Helpful!!! Have a feeling its the MF/APR, even though I told them I know what it should be (thanks to you guys).

    As always, this site is an incredibly helpful tool to keep transparency alive and well
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    cats13 said:

    Michaell said:

    cats13 said:

    It is using the prices you supplied. You tell me if it includes the fees - if not, add approximately $30/mo for every $1000 you add to the price given.
    Appreciate the quick reply!! It does NOT include the fees; they have me paying all those upfront.

    OK, so bottom line, your $793/month includes taxes. So dealer is overcharging by $68/month, or $2,448 over the life of the lease.
    Unless the CAP cost they are using is different from the price you gave me - confirm that with the dealer.

    And, the MF/APR could be marked up, as well - that is pure profit for them.

    Thanks Michaell - Super Helpful!!! Have a feeling its the MF/APR, even though I told them I know what it should be (thanks to you guys).

    As always, this site is an incredibly helpful tool to keep transparency alive and well

    Keep us posted as to how the negotiations go....

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691
    cats13 said:

    It is using the prices you supplied. You tell me if it includes the fees - if not, add approximately $30/mo for every $1000 you add to the price given.

    Appreciate the quick reply!! It does NOT include the fees; they have me paying all those upfront.

    OK, so bottom line, your $793/month includes taxes. So dealer is overcharging by $68/month, or $2,448 over the life of the lease.

    The county clerk might not collect the sales tax, but the bank certainly remits the sales tax to the state, each month. (after collecting it from you).

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  • cats13cats13 Member Posts: 34
    Michaell said:

    cats13 said:

    Michaell said:

    cats13 said:

    It is using the prices you supplied. You tell me if it includes the fees - if not, add approximately $30/mo for every $1000 you add to the price given.
    Appreciate the quick reply!! It does NOT include the fees; they have me paying all those upfront.

    OK, so bottom line, your $793/month includes taxes. So dealer is overcharging by $68/month, or $2,448 over the life of the lease.
    Unless the CAP cost they are using is different from the price you gave me - confirm that with the dealer.

    And, the MF/APR could be marked up, as well - that is pure profit for them.
    Thanks Michaell - Super Helpful!!! Have a feeling its the MF/APR, even though I told them I know what it should be (thanks to you guys).

    As always, this site is an incredibly helpful tool to keep transparency alive and well

    Keep us posted as to how the negotiations go....

    All resolved; at $787/month including TN taxes and excluding fees. Dealer blamed someone in their "finance dept" for the "error". What a coincidence, huh?

    Again, THANK YOU for the help!! I know this is an Edmunds site, but there really should be a "donate" link somewhere on this forum. If for no other reason, than a small token of appreciation for the time you guys spend answering our questions and leveling the playing field.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691
    cats13 said:

    Michaell said:

    cats13 said:

    Michaell said:

    cats13 said:

    It is using the prices you supplied. You tell me if it includes the fees - if not, add approximately $30/mo for every $1000 you add to the price given.
    Appreciate the quick reply!! It does NOT include the fees; they have me paying all those upfront.

    OK, so bottom line, your $793/month includes taxes. So dealer is overcharging by $68/month, or $2,448 over the life of the lease.
    Unless the CAP cost they are using is different from the price you gave me - confirm that with the dealer.

    And, the MF/APR could be marked up, as well - that is pure profit for them.
    Thanks Michaell - Super Helpful!!! Have a feeling its the MF/APR, even though I told them I know what it should be (thanks to you guys).

    As always, this site is an incredibly helpful tool to keep transparency alive and well
    Keep us posted as to how the negotiations go....

    All resolved; at $787/month including TN taxes and excluding fees. Dealer blamed someone in their "finance dept" for the "error". What a coincidence, huh?

    Again, THANK YOU for the help!! I know this is an Edmunds site, but there really should be a "donate" link somewhere on this forum. If for no other reason, than a small token of appreciation for the time you guys spend answering our questions and leveling the playing field.

    Congrats on the new truck!

    Save your donations for gas.. ;)

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  • UtemachineUtemachine Member Posts: 12
    Hi. 2018 Expedition Limited. MF, incentives, residual on 36/12 and 36/15 in 84020 zip
  • UtemachineUtemachine Member Posts: 12
    cats13 said:
    It is using the prices you supplied. You tell me if it includes the fees - if not, add approximately $30/mo for every $1000 you add to the price given.
    Appreciate the quick reply!! It does NOT include the fees; they have me paying all those upfront. OK, so bottom line, your $793/month includes taxes. So dealer is overcharging by $68/month, or $2,448 over the life of the lease.
    Unless the CAP cost they are using is different from the price you gave me - confirm that with the dealer. And, the MF/APR could be marked up, as well - that is pure profit for them.
    Thanks Michaell - Super Helpful!!! Have a feeling its the MF/APR, even though I told them I know what it should be (thanks to you guys). As always, this site is an incredibly helpful tool to keep transparency alive and well
    Keep us posted as to how the negotiations go.... All resolved; at $787/month including TN taxes and excluding fees. Dealer blamed someone in their "finance dept" for the "error". What a coincidence, huh? Again, THANK YOU for the help!! I know this is an Edmunds site, but there really should be a "donate" link somewhere on this forum. If for no other reason, than a small token of appreciation for the time you guys spend answering our questions and leveling the playing field.
    Hi. 2018 Expedition Limited. MF, incentives, residual on 36/12 and 36/15 in 84020 zip

    Cats, I’m looking at pretty much your same vehicle. How did you get them so far below sticker? That seems really low, well done!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859

    Hi. 2018 Expedition Limited. MF, incentives, residual on 36/12 and 36/15 in 84020 zip

    RWD or AWD?

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  • UtemachineUtemachine Member Posts: 12
    Michaell said:
    Hi. 2018 Expedition Limited. MF, incentives, residual on 36/12 and 36/15 in 84020 zip
    RWD or AWD?
    Sorry! AWD. 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691


    Michaell said:

    Hi. 2018 Expedition Limited. MF, incentives, residual on 36/12 and 36/15 in 84020 zip

    RWD or AWD?

    Sorry! AWD. 

    36/15
    0.75% APR
    53% residual
    $3250 lease cash

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  • IntrepidBoaterIntrepidBoater Member Posts: 11
    If I'm traveling a few hundred miles to get a great lease deal on a new MAX Platinum, do I use the MF/APR and residual for the zip code where the dealer is located, or where the car will be registered?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691

    If I'm traveling a few hundred miles to get a great lease deal on a new MAX Platinum, do I use the MF/APR and residual for the zip code where the dealer is located, or where the car will be registered?

    Thanks!

    I would guess the incentives would be from the dealer's location.
    But, with Ford, you never know.

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  • IntrepidBoaterIntrepidBoater Member Posts: 11
    Hi. 2018 Expedition Max Platinum 4x4 MF/APR%, Lease cash, residual% on 36/12k and 36/13.5k in 33815 zip
    Thank you!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691

    Hi. 2018 Expedition Max Platinum 4x4 MF/APR%, Lease cash, residual% on 36/12k and 36/13.5k in 33815 zip
    Thank you!!

    0.42% APR
    55%/54% residual
    $4000 lease cash

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  • nigelcatnigelcat Member Posts: 4
    Hi anything new in November? Looking for 2018 xlt 4x4 with 36/15k in 13066. Mf, residual, lease cash. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691
    nigelcat said:

    Hi anything new in November? Looking for 2018 xlt 4x4 with 36/15k in 13066. Mf, residual, lease cash. Thanks!

    0.14% APR
    51% residual
    $3250 lease cash

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  • boaterproboaterpro Member Posts: 9
    Looking for November numbers for 2018 Limited 4x2 with 36/12k in 91320. Thank you
  • boaterproboaterpro Member Posts: 9
    edited November 2018
    I also have a question about the APR. When calculating my lease payment, do I need to convert that APR into a money factor by dividing it by 2400? If the APR is 0.14% that gives me a money factor of 0.0000583 which doesn't seem right, unless Ford is basically not charging any interest on their leases right now.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691
    edited November 2018
    boaterpro said:

    I also have a question about the APR. When calculating my lease payment, do I need to convert that APR into a money factor by dividing it by 2400? If the APR is 0.14% that gives me a money factor of 0.0000583 which doesn't seem right, unless Ford is basically not charging any interest on their leases right now.

    Yes.. if using a lease calculator or spreadsheet, you need to convert it.

    0.14% APR -- That is pretty close to zero.

    0.42% for your region... still, very low

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691
    boaterpro said:

    Looking for November numbers for 2018 Limited 4x2 with 36/12k in 91320. Thank you

    0.42% APR
    53% residual
    $4000 lease cash

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  • UtemachineUtemachine Member Posts: 12
    Hi looking for an update to the numbers in 84020 on 2018 limited and platinum, awd. Looking for MF, incentives, residual, for 36/12. 
  • PsychicBurnPsychicBurn Member Posts: 16
    Hi, could I get MF, incentives & residuals for zip 92104, 2018 XLT 4x2, for 36/10 and 39/10?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859

    Hi looking for an update to the numbers in 84020 on 2018 limited and platinum, awd. Looking for MF, incentives, residual, for 36/12. 

    .75% and 55% (Ltd) or 56% (Plat)
    $3250 lease cash

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859

    Hi, could I get MF, incentives & residuals for zip 92104, 2018 XLT 4x2, for 36/10 and 39/10?

    .14% and 52%
    .39% and 50%
    $3250 lease cash

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  • UtemachineUtemachine Member Posts: 12
    Why do money factors have such a large variance depending on zip code?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691

    Why do money factors have such a large variance depending on zip code?

    Ford has 15-20 different regions. I'm sure it has to do with regional competition.

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  • ApplerAppler Member Posts: 2
    If you can, could you please provide the MF, residual, lease incentives etc.. for a 2018 Limited 4x4 and 15k miles in 21401. Thank you very much for the help!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    Appler said:

    If you can, could you please provide the MF, residual, lease incentives etc.. for a 2018 Limited 4x4 and 15k miles in 21401. Thank you very much for the help!

    What lease term?

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  • ApplerAppler Member Posts: 2
    36, thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691
    Appler said:

    If you can, could you please provide the MF, residual, lease incentives etc.. for a 2018 Limited 4x4 and 15k miles in 21401. Thank you very much for the help!

    Appler said:

    36, thanks!

    0.75% APR
    53% residual
    $3250 lease cash

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  • PeterS33PeterS33 Member Posts: 9
    Hi Michaell. Can I please get the APR, residuals and incentives for 36/12 for both 2018 Expedition 2wd and 4wd Platinum in zip 31411? Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    PeterS33 said:

    Hi Michaell. Can I please get the APR, residuals and incentives for 36/12 for both 2018 Expedition 2wd and 4wd Platinum in zip 31411? Thanks.

    .75% and 56% (AWD) or 54% (2WD)
    $3250 lease cash

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  • skyflyinskyflyin Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2018
    Hi Michaell,

    We are looking for the MF, residuals and incentives for a 39/12 for 2018 Expedition XLT and Expedition XLT Max in zip code 77433.

    Now that the 2019s are out, do you have those as well, or are they the same?

    One more question, I hear that Ford will give a certain amount to buy you out of your old lease. Is that correct and if so, do you know how much? I heard it was up to $1800. Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    skyflyin said:

    Hi Michaell,

    We are looking for the MF, residuals and incentives for a 39/12 for 2018 Expedition XLT and Expedition XLT Max in zip code 77433.

    Now that the 2019s are out, do you have those as well, or are they the same?

    One more question, I hear that Ford will give a certain amount to buy you out of your old lease. Is that correct and if so, do you know how much? I heard it was up to $1800. Thank you.

    4x2 or 4x4?

    2019 Expedition lease thread is here:
    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/52841/ford/expedition/2019-ford-expedition-lease-deals-and-prices#latest

    No information on any pull ahead program from Ford; do you have a link?

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  • skyflyinskyflyin Member Posts: 16
    It's a 4x2. Here is the link to the rumor on the lease buyout: https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/guide-to-early-lease-turn-in-pull-ahead-programs
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691
    skyflyin said:

    It's a 4x2. Here is the link to the rumor on the lease buyout: https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/guide-to-early-lease-turn-in-pull-ahead-programs

    That article is from last year.

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  • skyflyinskyflyin Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2018
    kyfdx said:


    That article is from last year.

    Yes it is, but the salesman I've been talking to says it's still in effect, but won't give specifics. :@
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    skyflyin said:

    kyfdx said:


    That article is from last year.

    Yes it is, but the salesman I've been talking to says it's still in effect, but won't give specifics. :@
    Check with a second Ford dealer and see if they are more forthcoming with the details.

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  • skyflyinskyflyin Member Posts: 16
    We are looking for the MF, residuals and incentives for a 39/12 for 2018 Expedition XLT and Expedition XLT 4x2 Max in zip code 77433.

    Ok, I will check with another dealership. Do you have the info for above Michaell?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    skyflyin said:

    We are looking for the MF, residuals and incentives for a 39/12 for 2018 Expedition XLT and Expedition XLT 4x2 Max in zip code 77433.

    Ok, I will check with another dealership. Do you have the info for above Michaell?

    .72% and 49% (XLT) or 48% (XLT Max)
    $2500 lease cash

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  • CGH1988CGH1988 Member Posts: 59
    edited November 2018
    Hello, what would be the money factor and residual for a 2018 Expedition XLT 2WD in zip code 33060 (south Florida). 36/15. 39/15. What are the incentives to lease? Thanks. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    CGH1988 said:

    Hello, what would be the money factor and residual for a 2018 Expedition XLT 2WD in zip code 33060 (south Florida). 36/15. 39/15. What are the incentives to lease? Thanks. 

    .14% and 49%
    .39% and 47%
    $3250 lease cash

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  • rruck45rruck45 Member Posts: 15
    Can you provide the residual/money factor/incentives for 2018 Expedition Platinum in zip 60106 for a 36/10.5 lease? Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,859
    rruck45 said:

    Can you provide the residual/money factor/incentives for 2018 Expedition Platinum in zip 60106 for a 36/10.5 lease? Thanks.

    4x4 or 4x2?

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  • rruck45rruck45 Member Posts: 15
    4x4
  • rruck45rruck45 Member Posts: 15
    Also considering the MAX, so can you provide the residual/money factor/incentives for 2018 Expedition MAX Platinum 4x4 in zip 60106 for a 36/10.5 and 36/12 lease as well? Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,691
    rruck45 said:

    Can you provide the residual/money factor/incentives for 2018 Expedition Platinum in zip 60106 for a 36/10.5 lease? Thanks.

    rruck45 said:

    4x4

    rruck45 said:

    Also considering the MAX, so can you provide the residual/money factor/incentives for 2018 Expedition MAX Platinum 4x4 in zip 60106 for a 36/10.5 and 36/12 lease as well? Thanks.

    36/12
    0.75% APR
    56%/55% residual for reg/MAX
    $3250 lease cash

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