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Also 2 removable tiedowns under the rear bumper.
The car was delivered with 37 PSI in the tires. I did a controlled 18-mile freeway loop before bringing the car home, and got 39.5 MPG at a steady 65 MPH.
Then, I raised the tire pressures to 46 front and 44 rear, and repeated the identical test loop. This time, I achieved 42.3 MPG.
I can't believe it's sitting in my garage tonight. Love the car so far!!!
If you need details on how to perform this five-minute elective surgery, see my post at greenhybrid.com.
Did the quality of the ride change noticeably? Also, do you know if such an increase in pressure (24%) is safe for the tire? I overinflate my Insight tires by maybe 10% for gas mileage, but have never really tried anything more.
during prolong driving on the freeway due to heat friction on the tires. I think 10% increase to 40 PSI is safe for me.
Did things change? Is it really made in Japan or KY? Hmm
This is a Camry.
This is a Hybrid Camry.
PS. We ordered a Camry Hybrid over a year ago, we are #4 on the list here, so color decision is imminent.
(If an entire multi-state region can only move 84 cars through the channel in 3 weeks, I can see how people will be waiting months and months for cars!)
What it designates is that at the regional level, GST, all that they know is that 181 units remain not reported; i.e. no RDR's yet. All these may have been on the road for a week now. Since yesterday was RDR-day throughout the system the local stores haven't yet sent the reports to the regional office. It's not real-time it's batched.
Now today if 290 more show up in GST on the new allocation I'd guess that all of these are spoken for as well using the same '2-10 firm orders per store' criteria thoughout the region.
I called another dealer about 45 minutes north, and they think there are only about 4-5 people on the list there. I will probably put in a deposit there too.
I just want to make sure I get mine before the end of September. Is is safe to assume that the tax credit gets cut in half starting in October?
"Check the manual - the car must be started at least every 2 weeks for at least 30 minutes"
anybody know if this is the same for the Camry Hybrid?
Thanks.
You're going to drive more than that to get a feel for how this mpg's thing works. I've got about 1100 miles so far and here's what I've observed. You'll want to look back in this forum at my other comments as well as others. Someone was concerned that on a test drive they only got in the 20's. There is a lot that can affect this in such a short test. Jackrabbit starts, pulling out quickly onto the road, a hill or grades, etc. On my first 2 (light fill)tanks I got 38+. Then after the third I drove home up a steep hill and pulled into the garage and I had 26 mpg. I only had 4 miles on this tank. I had to drive several other small trips to get the average back up. Had I drove this route with 300 miles already on the tank with 38+ then I would have lost maybe a tenth off of the average. Just as it goes down slowly it will go up slowly.
Actually my freeway driving is around 36 to 37.5 (driving between 70 and 80. It's when I drive on rural roads and in town (w/o a lot of traffic) that I'm able to keep the average up. (I was running 40.5 for a while on one tank with 300 miles on it)
What you have to consider is this: Yesterday on a trip my wife drove while I napped. I woke up and she was doing 80mph and getting 36 mpg. I griped at her but when we got home I did a quick calculation and figured the difference on that trip between 36 and 38.5 mpg was less than 1/2 gallon.
I would not worry about any average I'd see on short intervals. There are times you're getting 10 mpg(watch the instant readout gage) and times you're getting 60 mpg (or on full battery power). It all averages out. If you're in a mode that in the 20's watch the gage and see what the instant readout is. If you're getting 10 or 20 notice why. Is it a grade, pulling out too fast, etc...
I believe (and I'm new to this) to get the good city milage you start out slow on battery power and avoid the engine kicking on as much as possible. You may want to stay in the right lane.
To end this story,I have found that the difference in 36 and 38 is very small in terms of gas saved. I'm eventually going to turn the gage to another display and just enjoy driving knowing I'm going to average between 36 and 38 and it really doesn't matter which because it's all better than the 16 I used to get.
Also once registered can I switch back and forth between winter and summer without going back to the garage?
There are already decent deals on ebay for wheel and tires for people changing out. I assume most of them are keeping their sensors.
Now that these are being mass produced (on all Toyota's) are they cheaper? Should I only use (or am required to)Toyota Brand sensors.
I'm not in the market yet for winter tires but I may get something in Chrome for my stock tires and later put the winter tread on the stock wheels.
I've got a set of 17" chrome Nissan wheels w/ tire from my old 350Z. They have the same overall diameter and the same bolt circle but I don't know about measuring offset. If the wheels would work I would consider narrower tires and possibly run these rims. Know any where to find fitment info?
We went with the base model and added after market leather from Katzkin (www.katzkin.com). A lot of the Chicago area dealers that I spoke with order the cars without leather and then add the after market leather.
This was an inexpensive ($1,000) way to get the Hybrid I wanted. Leather is a must for me on any car, but I wasn't willing to pay $30,000 for the navigation, sunroof and other features I don't care about. This is top quality leather make to manufacture specs.
So far, we love this car and the milage is beyond our expectations. Tomorrow I will be doing some highway driving. Of course, the trunk is much smaller that we would like. If they could fix this one flaw, I would give the car an A+ all around.
I asked for the Magnetic Gray with ash leather, Navi, moonroof, convenience package (actually ALL of the available factory options).
I still don't think I understand how the dealers order these cars.
Are they placing an order with the factory to build "me" the car? Or are they simply putting my preferred car/color/options on file, and waiting to see if one shows up?
Dealer #2 (the one where I am #7 on the list) says that they are supposed to get 2 hybrids this month. As they sell them, they are allotted more in the future. Are they really just approacing the people with deposits (in order) as these cars come in (essentially randomly)? The saleswoman at this dealer was telling me that they only build about 10% of them with Navi, so there might be people on the list below me that didn't ask for Nav that could get one first.
I think I would prefer that they just built them to order (if that isn't how it is being done).
Also, why isn't this message forum in the Camry Hybrid area under the index instead of just plain Camry?
I did a search for groups under the Camry Hybrid option and it said there were no discussions.
:-)
Seriously, I wonder how much bigger the trunk is in the GSH.
SWEEEET!!!
(I wonder how the GS450H does at 80)
I believe I read that the GS450h is slightly smaller than the TCH.
14.5 - 15.0 '07 Camry Gas
10.6 '07 Camry Hybrid
12.7 GS450h
19.8% bigger than the TCH and the same size as the gas GS450.
... it seems in most cases, at least for city driving, the actual mileage is 30% off the estimate.
Sure... maybe with a fully charged battery on a Dyno meter gets it gets 40 mpg, but in real world drive city - country - rural driving ( 0 to 40 mph), with no highway... if all it gets is 26 - 28 mpg then one might be better off with the basic Ce/Le 4 cyl... or maybe the Corolla.
... or maybe they should change the way they achieve estimates.
Don't get me wrong... I still think the Camry is a great car for those who need one now, the ride is great and it has that "look" but...
Has anyone been able to achieve the 40 mpg with city driving before I throw down $30,000 for something that does not get better gas mileage the my nine year old Corolla?
Gampa
If you are strictly making the decision on gas mileage per dollar, the TCH is not the car for you. However, having picked mine up this morning, I will say that it affords a fine level of luxury that, combined with the world-beating FE in its class, makes it a one-of-a-kind automobile. I have a feeling I'm going to love owning this car...
I can start off from a dead stop and get up to 25 mph on the battery only, some of the time. This involves a pretty slow creep start, so I don't do it if someone is behind me out of courtesy. Sometimes when I try this, the gas engine kicks in. I can't figure out pattern yet.
The car has a really nice sweet spot for city driving at 35 mph. I can drive on level ground for a mile or so on the battery only. This is good, because this is my city cruising speed.
My son had it at 60 mph and 60 mpg for a mile on the freeway the other day.
It's very interesting to drive. Once you use the gas engine to get up to speed, you can back off on the throttle and maintain that speed. You can watch the mpg meter increase from 20 mpg to 60 mpg, and still maintain your speed.
Also, coasting is big. You can get the gas engine to turn off entirely on a slight downgrade, while you recharge the battery.
All in all, a great car. I'd be surprised if I didn't average more than 35 mpg in the city. Plus, much of my driving is in 2-3 miles stints, in which nothing really gets warmed up and things are less efficient.