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Car Buying Advice - 2018 Macan and Macan S MF and residuals.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    jbg89jbg said:

    Hi All,

    Can i request the MF/R for zip 91702 for the Macan
    36/12 and 36/15

    .00230 MF and 60%/58% residual

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  • ajp79ajp79 Member Posts: 4
    Hi There,
    I'm getting what I think is a good deal (especially by the 1% rule) but trying to see if I need to pull the trigger. This deal is only till the end of Q2

    Location: Massachusetts (sales tax is 6.25%)
    Macan S
    MSRP: $67880

    Lease offer(s) on the table is:

    39 months / 5000 miles per year
    $2200 TOTAL due @ signing
    $563.04/month including MA sales tax

    or

    $0 TOTAL due @ signing
    $631/month

    They have not revealved the MF or the Residual.

    Thanks in Advance.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    ajp79 said:

    Hi There,
    I'm getting what I think is a good deal (especially by the 1% rule) but trying to see if I need to pull the trigger. This deal is only till the end of Q2

    Location: Massachusetts (sales tax is 6.25%)
    Macan S
    MSRP: $67880

    Lease offer(s) on the table is:

    39 months / 5000 miles per year
    $2200 TOTAL due @ signing
    $563.04/month including MA sales tax

    or

    $0 TOTAL due @ signing
    $631/month

    They have not revealved the MF or the Residual.

    Thanks in Advance.

    .00260 MF and 61% residual

    That looks like a pretty good price.
    Why bother leasing a car if you can't drive it? (5K/yr?)

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  • ajp79ajp79 Member Posts: 4
    kyfdx said:
    Hi There, I'm getting what I think is a good deal (especially by the 1% rule) but trying to see if I need to pull the trigger. This deal is only till the end of Q2 Location: Massachusetts (sales tax is 6.25%) Macan S MSRP: $67880 Lease offer(s) on the table is: 39 months / 5000 miles per year $2200 TOTAL due @ signing $563.04/month including MA sales tax or $0 TOTAL due @ signing $631/month They have not revealved the MF or the Residual. Thanks in Advance.
    .00260 MF and 61% residual That looks like a pretty good price. Why bother leasing a car if you can't drive it? (5K/yr?)
    Fair question. I travel a lot, and work is close by -  so this is really a weekend car. I have a 5 series lease that I’m returning after 3 years @ 16k miles. Assuming the same or even 18k in 3 years; that .30 * 3000 = $900. If I go with the 7.5k mile option, I’d be paying a lot more then that. 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    ajp79 said:


    kyfdx said:

    ajp79 said:

    Hi There,
    I'm getting what I think is a good deal (especially by the 1% rule) but trying to see if I need to pull the trigger. This deal is only till the end of Q2

    Location: Massachusetts (sales tax is 6.25%)
    Macan S
    MSRP: $67880

    Lease offer(s) on the table is:

    39 months / 5000 miles per year
    $2200 TOTAL due @ signing
    $563.04/month including MA sales tax

    or

    $0 TOTAL due @ signing
    $631/month

    They have not revealved the MF or the Residual.

    Thanks in Advance.

    .00260 MF and 61% residual

    That looks like a pretty good price.
    Why bother leasing a car if you can't drive it? (5K/yr?)

    Fair question. I travel a lot, and work is close by -  so this is really a weekend car. I have a 5 series lease that I’m returning after 3 years @ 16k miles. Assuming the same or even 18k in 3 years; that .30 * 3000 = $900. If I go with the 7.5k mile option, I’d be paying a lot more then that. 


    7.5K/yr only drops the residual by 1%.
    That's only $679. And, you get 7500 extra miles over a 5K/yr lease.

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  • ajp79ajp79 Member Posts: 4
    kyfdx said:
    kyfdx said:
    Hi There, I'm getting what I think is a good deal (especially by the 1% rule) but trying to see if I need to pull the trigger. This deal is only till the end of Q2 Location: Massachusetts (sales tax is 6.25%) Macan S MSRP: $67880 Lease offer(s) on the table is: 39 months / 5000 miles per year $2200 TOTAL due @ signing $563.04/month including MA sales tax or $0 TOTAL due @ signing $631/month They have not revealved the MF or the Residual. Thanks in Advance.
    .00260 MF and 61% residual That looks like a pretty good price. Why bother leasing a car if you can't drive it? (5K/yr?)
    Fair question. I travel a lot, and work is close by -  so this is really a weekend car. I have a 5 series lease that I’m returning after 3 years @ 16k miles. Assuming the same or even 18k in 3 years; that .30 * 3000 = $900. If I go with the 7.5k mile option, I’d be paying a lot more then that. 
    7.5K/yr only drops the residual by 1%. That's only $679. And, you get 7500 extra miles over a 5K/yr lease.
    Good point. Pulled trigger today. Actually got a few more
    bucks off that as well. I’m a happy camper. 
  • mtprch4mtprch4 Member Posts: 5
    edited June 2018
    Hi looking to lease porsche macan S , msrp 73,600 . negotiated to $67,100 and I have trade allowance of 701.10 . Looking for a 24 months 10K Miles . They have acq fee 995 , 199 admin fee , 695 service pck (Offered 1% residual increase on buying service) . Zip code 63146 . Estimated Fees & taxes 2323.20 and Offered lease $1289.98/month . not sure of residual/MF . Is this a good offer? { Other details - Adjust cap - 68287.90 , Residual -48783 , Rent charge 9131.42 . Tier 1 credit with 820+
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    ajp79 said:


    kyfdx said:

    ajp79 said:


    kyfdx said:

    ajp79 said:

    Hi There,
    I'm getting what I think is a good deal (especially by the 1% rule) but trying to see if I need to pull the trigger. This deal is only till the end of Q2

    Location: Massachusetts (sales tax is 6.25%)
    Macan S
    MSRP: $67880

    Lease offer(s) on the table is:

    39 months / 5000 miles per year
    $2200 TOTAL due @ signing
    $563.04/month including MA sales tax

    or

    $0 TOTAL due @ signing
    $631/month

    They have not revealved the MF or the Residual.

    Thanks in Advance.

    .00260 MF and 61% residual

    That looks like a pretty good price.
    Why bother leasing a car if you can't drive it? (5K/yr?)

    Fair question. I travel a lot, and work is close by -  so this is really a weekend car. I have a 5 series lease that I’m returning after 3 years @ 16k miles. Assuming the same or even 18k in 3 years; that .30 * 3000 = $900. If I go with the 7.5k mile option, I’d be paying a lot more then that. 
    7.5K/yr only drops the residual by 1%.
    That's only $679. And, you get 7500 extra miles over a 5K/yr lease.

    Good point. Pulled trigger today. Actually got a few more
    bucks off that as well. I’m a happy camper. 

    Congrats!

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    mtprch4 said:

    Hi looking to lease porsche macan S , msrp 73,600 . negotiated to $67,100 and I have trade allowance of 701.10 . Looking for a 24 months 10K Miles . They have acq fee 995 , 199 admin fee , 695 service pck (Offered 1% residual increase on buying service) . Zip code 63146 . Estimated Fees & taxes 2323.20 and Offered lease $1289.98/month . not sure of residual/MF . Is this a good offer? { Other details - Adjust cap - 68287.90 , Residual -48783 , Rent charge 9131.42 . Tier 1 credit with 820+

    .00260 MF and 68% residual (69%, if as you described)
    Unfortunately, your MSRP is over the MRM. ($70,000) Which is why your residual is less than 69% of MSRP
    Adding the $1900 you listed to the sale price, I get $1148/mo.+tax

    With the base MF, the rent charge is $306/mo. X 24 mo = $7344.
    Since they are showing $9131, it looks like they've bumped up the MF to around .00325

    If you can find a $70K or less MSRP unit, with a similar percentage rate discount, you'll do a lot better, as the residual would be the same. Also, negotiating the MF down to the base rate would save $80/mo. or so...

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  • mtprch4mtprch4 Member Posts: 5
    Thanks a lot . Yeah I see in the build sheet they have given me , the total Retail Price is $73,600 (thats Total Retail Vehicle price of 72,550 + Delivery , Processing & Handling of 1050 ) and i negotiated it 67,100. But on the Retail buyers order I see Manufacturer suggested retail price as $70,700. I was planning on buying initially but switched to Leasing and got confused with the numbers & paper work . Dealership seem to be very supportive . I will ask them tomorrow and see what happens . But thing is, i kind of signed the papers, but didn't take the delivery ! Have to see how it goes .

    The thought process of leasing is to switch out to 2019 Macan once it is out next week, 1 year after my lease . So, i liked this Macan S and the another one was slightly used 2017 Base Macan (1200 miles with good options abt $53500 cert preowned). May be If they are OK - I will get the used macan and trade in next year - would I better of doing this?

    Or do you recommend to buy the Above negotiated new 18 Macan ,if I am planning on switching to next year . I think the APR is around 4.

    Thank you..
  • mtprch4mtprch4 Member Posts: 5
    Could you please share the MF & Residuals for 10K/24 Months for Base Macan . T1Credit. for Saint Louis,MO
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    mtprch4 said:

    Thanks a lot . Yeah I see in the build sheet they have given me , the total Retail Price is $73,600 (thats Total Retail Vehicle price of 72,550 + Delivery , Processing & Handling of 1050 ) and i negotiated it 67,100. But on the Retail buyers order I see Manufacturer suggested retail price as $70,700. I was planning on buying initially but switched to Leasing and got confused with the numbers & paper work . Dealership seem to be very supportive . I will ask them tomorrow and see what happens . But thing is, i kind of signed the papers, but didn't take the delivery ! Have to see how it goes .

    The thought process of leasing is to switch out to 2019 Macan once it is out next week, 1 year after my lease . So, i liked this Macan S and the another one was slightly used 2017 Base Macan (1200 miles with good options abt $53500 cert preowned). May be If they are OK - I will get the used macan and trade in next year - would I better of doing this?

    Or do you recommend to buy the Above negotiated new 18 Macan ,if I am planning on switching to next year . I think the APR is around 4.

    Thank you..

    If I was trading out in a year, I'd buy the used one.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    mtprch4 said:

    Could you please share the MF & Residuals for 10K/24 Months for Base Macan . T1Credit. for Saint Louis,MO

    .00230 MF and 68% residual

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  • mtprch4mtprch4 Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2018
    kyfdx said:

    mtprch4 said:

    Could you please share the MF & Residuals for 10K/24 Months for Base Macan . T1Credit. for Saint Louis,MO

    .00230 MF and 68% residual
    Thank you , .00230 is given by Porsche ? Dealer firm on .00325 MF and says its set by porsche. Is it something we can negotiate ?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    mtprch4 said:

    kyfdx said:

    mtprch4 said:

    Could you please share the MF & Residuals for 10K/24 Months for Base Macan . T1Credit. for Saint Louis,MO

    .00230 MF and 68% residual
    Thank you , .00230 is given by Porsche ? Dealer firm on .00325 MF and says its set by porsche. Is it something we can negotiate ?
    Dealers can markup the rate for extra profit. That markup is exorbitant.

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  • mtprch4mtprch4 Member Posts: 5
    mtprch4 said:

    Hi looking to lease porsche macan S , msrp 73,600 . negotiated to $67,100 and I have trade allowance of 701.10 . Looking for a 24 months 10K Miles . They have acq fee 995 , 199 admin fee , 695 service pck (Offered 1% residual increase on buying service) . Zip code 63146 . Estimated Fees & taxes 2323.20 and Offered lease $1289.98/month . not sure of residual/MF . Is this a good offer? { Other details - Adjust cap - 68287.90 , Residual -48783 , Rent charge 9131.42 . Tier 1 credit with 820+

    I had to go with $1289/Month Macan S 10k/24months as I signed the paperwork and negotiations didn't work out .
  • rookierookrookierook Member Posts: 3
    Hi, would you be able to help with the MF and residual in SoCal, 15k/36 month and 12k/36 month for 2018 Macan S?  

    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,918

    Hi, would you be able to help with the MF and residual in SoCal, 15k/36 month and 12k/36 month for 2018 Macan S?  

    Thank you.

    .00240 and 58% / 60%

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  • vanortjkvanortjk Member Posts: 2
    Are the numbers being quoted now for 3rd qtr? If so, 36/12 for a Macan S in Chicago suburbs?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    vanortjk said:

    Are the numbers being quoted now for 3rd qtr? If so, 36/12 for a Macan S in Chicago suburbs?

    Yes...

    .00240 MF and 60% residual

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  • momo97momo97 Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2018
    Could you confirm the MF in Northern California. Dealer is saying 36/10 is .00270 buy rate for macan gts
  • sxmxpd9sxmxpd9 Member Posts: 17
    Looking for a Macan S MF and Residual in 78702 please. Not sure on the terms... does Porsche like 36/12k? Would need either 12K or 15K. Ty
  • MartinKMartinK Member Posts: 25
    Hi,

    Can i request the MF/R for zip 10303 for the Macan
    36/15K

    Thanks!!
  • mcm7628mcm7628 Member Posts: 7
    Hi! May I please have the MF and RV on the Macan, Macan Sport Edition and Macan S in zip 33967?  36/10 and 39/10.  Thank you.  
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    momo97 said:

    Could you confirm the MF in Northern California. Dealer is saying 36/10 is .00270 buy rate for macan gts

    I don't have the standard rate for this quarter.
    Last quarter, it was .00260, so I wouldn't doubt that number.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    sxmxpd9 said:

    Looking for a Macan S MF and Residual in 78702 please. Not sure on the terms... does Porsche like 36/12k? Would need either 12K or 15K. Ty

    .00240 MF
    60%/58% residual for 12K/15K

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    MartinK said:

    Hi,

    Can i request the MF/R for zip 10303 for the Macan
    36/15K

    Thanks!!

    .00240 MF and 58% residual

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    mcm7628 said:

    Hi! May I please have the MF and RV on the Macan, Macan Sport Edition and Macan S in zip 33967?  36/10 and 39/10.  Thank you.  

    .00240 MF
    61%/59% residual for 36/39 months.

    That's for either Macan or Macan S
    I don't see a Sport Edition, but if it falls between those two, it likely has the same numbers.

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  • philbert79philbert79 Member Posts: 8
    kyfdx said:

    mcm7628 said:

    Hi! May I please have the MF and RV on the Macan, Macan Sport Edition and Macan S in zip 33967?  36/10 and 39/10.  Thank you.  

    .00240 MF
    61%/59% residual for 36/39 months.

    That's for either Macan or Macan S
    I don't see a Sport Edition, but if it falls between those two, it likely has the same numbers.
    Can you provide residuals for Macan / Macan S in 06870 for 36/5 and 39/5?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,918

    kyfdx said:

    mcm7628 said:

    Hi! May I please have the MF and RV on the Macan, Macan Sport Edition and Macan S in zip 33967?  36/10 and 39/10.  Thank you.  

    .00240 MF
    61%/59% residual for 36/39 months.

    That's for either Macan or Macan S
    I don't see a Sport Edition, but if it falls between those two, it likely has the same numbers.
    Can you provide residuals for Macan / Macan S in 06870 for 36/5 and 39/5?
    Add 2% to the above residuals for 5K per year.

    Almost doesn't seem worth it, for so few miles. Find a CPO version and buy it outright.

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  • philbert79philbert79 Member Posts: 8
    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    mcm7628 said:

    Hi! May I please have the MF and RV on the Macan, Macan Sport Edition and Macan S in zip 33967?  36/10 and 39/10.  Thank you.  

    .00240 MF
    61%/59% residual for 36/39 months.

    That's for either Macan or Macan S
    I don't see a Sport Edition, but if it falls between those two, it likely has the same numbers.
    Can you provide residuals for Macan / Macan S in 06870 for 36/5 and 39/5?
    Add 2% to the above residuals for 5K per year.

    Almost doesn't seem worth it, for so few miles. Find a CPO version and buy it outright.
    If I could find a CPO with the right mix of options I want at enough of an incremental discount...

    Is there a shorter lease term that makes more sense than 36 / 39? I'll most likely buy out the residual at the end, but I have a tax situation that favors initially leasing (likely, but not confirmed move across states where an initial purchase could lead to double sales tax).
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735

    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    mcm7628 said:

    Hi! May I please have the MF and RV on the Macan, Macan Sport Edition and Macan S in zip 33967?  36/10 and 39/10.  Thank you.  

    .00240 MF
    61%/59% residual for 36/39 months.

    That's for either Macan or Macan S
    I don't see a Sport Edition, but if it falls between those two, it likely has the same numbers.
    Can you provide residuals for Macan / Macan S in 06870 for 36/5 and 39/5?
    Add 2% to the above residuals for 5K per year.

    Almost doesn't seem worth it, for so few miles. Find a CPO version and buy it outright.
    If I could find a CPO with the right mix of options I want at enough of an incremental discount...

    Is there a shorter lease term that makes more sense than 36 / 39? I'll most likely buy out the residual at the end, but I have a tax situation that favors initially leasing (likely, but not confirmed move across states where an initial purchase could lead to double sales tax).
    Not really.. transaction prices are probably too close to MSRP to make a shorter term lease cost-efficient.

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  • philbert79philbert79 Member Posts: 8
    So far I'm at around 6% off sticker, but based on some other forum feedback, getting to, or just above, 9% off should be possible, especially as the 2018 models continue to sit and the 2019 has just been revealed yesterday.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735

    So far I'm at around 6% off sticker, but based on some other forum feedback, getting to, or just above, 9% off should be possible, especially as the 2018 models continue to sit and the 2019 has just been revealed yesterday.

    24/5 residuals are 70%

    Just a 7% spread above 36 months.

    Even at 9% off, you'd be paying 21% depreciation for 24 months vs. 28% for 36 months.
    That's 10% higher monthly depreciation (more or less) for 24 months.
    Once you start amortizing the fixed costs (registration/acquisition fee, etc) over fewer months, the price gets worse..

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  • odonns5odonns5 Member Posts: 27
    Hello could I get lease numbers for the Macan S in Washington DC 36/10 and 36/12
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,918
    odonns5 said:

    Hello could I get lease numbers for the Macan S in Washington DC 36/10 and 36/12

    .00240 and 61% / 60%

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  • jon2168jon2168 Member Posts: 6
    Hi there,

    Can someone tell me the MF & Residual Value for 2018 Macan for Northern California. Zip 94080

    36/10 and 36/12.

    Thanks in advance!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    jon2168 said:

    Hi there,

    Can someone tell me the MF & Residual Value for 2018 Macan for Northern California. Zip 94080

    36/10 and 36/12.

    Thanks in advance!

    There were some special lease programs for the base model, but they seem to be gone, now.

    .00270 MF and 61%/60% residual

    Earlier this month, we saw .00240 MF.

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  • jon2168jon2168 Member Posts: 6
    edited August 2018
    kyfdx said:

    jon2168 said:

    Hi there,

    Can someone tell me the MF & Residual Value for 2018 Macan for Northern California. Zip 94080

    36/10 and 36/12.

    Thanks in advance!

    There were some special lease programs for the base model, but they seem to be gone, now.

    .00270 MF and 61%/60% residual

    Earlier this month, we saw .00240 MF.
    Thanks so much for the quote,

    I might shift into purchase instead of leasing now since MF is very high.

    Any feedbacks on what people in here paid for a Macan Base model? Roughly how many % off MSPR in the Northern California area. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,918
    jon2168 said:

    kyfdx said:

    jon2168 said:

    Hi there,

    Can someone tell me the MF & Residual Value for 2018 Macan for Northern California. Zip 94080

    36/10 and 36/12.

    Thanks in advance!

    There were some special lease programs for the base model, but they seem to be gone, now.

    .00270 MF and 61%/60% residual

    Earlier this month, we saw .00240 MF.
    Thanks so much for the quote,

    I might shift into purchase instead of leasing now since MF is very high.

    Any feedbacks on what people in here paid for a Macan Base model? Roughly how many % off MSPR in the Northern California area. Thanks!
    No help with pricing.

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  • rattixrattix Member Posts: 51
    1-For eastern PA, can I get MF/R for 2018 Macan GTS?
    2-Possibly may get the car from dealer in Atlanta. If that would affect the rates, can you also provide them for that area?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,918
    rattix said:

    1-For eastern PA, can I get MF/R for 2018 Macan GTS?
    2-Possibly may get the car from dealer in Atlanta. If that would affect the rates, can you also provide them for that area?

    Thanks!

    So far as we know, the Porsche numbers are national.

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • dteeluadteelua Member Posts: 17
    PHX AZ 85018

    MF and Residuals for Porsche Cayenne and Cayenne S at 36/12

    Also same numbers for Macan and Macan S

    TIA
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    dteelua said:

    PHX AZ 85018

    MF and Residuals for Porsche Cayenne and Cayenne S at 36/12

    Also same numbers for Macan and Macan S

    TIA

    2018
    Either Macan: .00240 MF and 60% residual
    Cayenne: .00270 MF and 49%/45% residual for Base/S

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  • AveryFourAveryFour Member Posts: 1
    Looking for MF Porsche Macan S for No CA, 95762 zip code for 36/15 and residual value %. Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    AveryFour said:

    Looking for MF Porsche Macan S for No CA, 95762 zip code for 36/15 and residual value %. Thank you.

    .00240 MF and 58% residual

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  • txfk2010txfk2010 Member Posts: 4
    How much do you guys pay for a month?
    Im looking for a Macan MSRP around $62000, 36/15 in TX
    as far as I know, MF:0.0024, Residual:58%
    I did my calculation, but somehow the price range is not match with dealers price
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,735
    txfk2010 said:

    How much do you guys pay for a month?
    Im looking for a Macan MSRP around $62000, 36/15 in TX
    as far as I know, MF:0.0024, Residual:58%
    I did my calculation, but somehow the price range is not match with dealers price

    Looks like .00250 MF for October

    TX collects tax on the full selling price, and it's also possible the dealer is marking up the money factor.

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  • Milo1987Milo1987 Member Posts: 6
    Hello,

    Looking at 2018 Base Macan - Anyone have current Residuals and MF? Much appreciated.

    39/10
    39/12

    36/10
    36/12

    Zip codes: 33301 or 20833 if it makes a difference?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,918
    Milo1987 said:

    Hello,

    Looking at 2018 Base Macan - Anyone have current Residuals and MF? Much appreciated.

    39/10
    39/12

    36/10
    36/12

    Zip codes: 33301 or 20833 if it makes a difference?

    12K; add 1% for 10K

    .00250 and 60% / 58%

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