"You either have a lot of Hooters and strip clubs in Dallas Ft Worth, or not that many car dealers"
Well, I live near Charlotte and think I know which Ford dealer "blkandblu" was referring to. In Charlotte, it seems like you don't typically see just 1 car dealership, you end up seeing a row of them.
If Dallas Ft Worth is like Charlotte, you can literally have 5-15 dealerships all side by side (and across) from one another, with 1 Hooters and a strip club in the same area.
I spoke with stripper who does bachelor parties and such. She said that her best customers are dealerships. She usually gets invited to Saturday morning sales meetings.
it seems like you don't typically see just 1 car dealership, you end up seeing a row of them.
Yep thats pretty much how they are around here, clumped together in groups. But still there are a lot of those groups and not that many hooters and clubs.
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Is it just Texas, but are all wheel,leather, aftermarket girls look straight out of the strip clubs? We had a spoiler girl who every month end would come in and beg for business and say "I would do anything *wink wink* if you bought just 3 more spoilers so I can make my numbers....." Now we do have some professional looking and acting female vendors, but its like everystore I go to the accessory girls look like flotation devices and are as smart as bricks...
No they're not. My girlfriend's '05 Pilot doesn't have voice activated nav, and all functions are available while flying down the freeway. (I wish mine were. ['02 Chrysler 300M Special])
I must be missing something. Can you explain to me why you feel it is necessary that "all functions are available while flying down the freeway". Don't you consider this to be just a little unsafe?
It's unsafe for Darwin's Finest. Good common sense goes a long way. I would say that if a person doesn't have sense enough to know that he shouldn't be STARING at the nav system while putting in a destination on the move, he probably shouldn't have a nav system at all; or a radio for that matter. And unless the front passenger has no arms, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be able to put in a destination while on the move. :confuse:
I have 5 out for this pay period. It is like we have 2 months with in a month. I am just concerned that the last part of the month will just DIE! Also foot traffic has reduced GREATLY this week.
Re: YOur spiff as the great Napoleon Dynamite says "LUCKY!"
To all the dealers, Have you heard of AUTOSOFT? We just dumped R&R and got this new System and it sucks, I have to recontract 2 people and The cutoff is at 10 tommorow, so I might get screwed out of some deals, or have to Sand Bag.
I have noticed over the years (I may have a couple on you here) that common sense isn’t as common as some people think it is. Since I’m forced to share the roads with everybody how am I supposed to identify, the ones with fully active Nav Systems, have this trait or not so I can put my head on a faster swivel cycle than what I normally use?
I would say that if a person doesn't have sense enough to know that he shouldn't be STARING at the nav system while putting in a destination on the move, he probably shouldn't have a nav system at all
Same as above.
...or a radio for that matter.
How many people do you know that STARE at a radio while flying (your word not mine) down the road but I may have to give you this one since I know there are some pretty sophisticated radios on the market today and those without common sense may be intrigued by all its features so as to command extended viewing. If you know many people that do stare at their radios, then I’m all for getting rid of these types of radios as well. However, in these cases it would be preferable to have their licence yaked, but I know this isn't going to happen.
Sometimes legislation is good and I feel this is one of those times.
BTW, are you upset with me that you have to yell like you do (use of all bold-type)? :surprise:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
So sorry to hear that ... as a support engineer for the division of the company that provides the database software that R&R bases their application on (think HAL minus 1 letter), it's good to get some positive independant feedback about the quality of their software.
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THIS IS YELLING. Since we don't have a quote feature here, I use bold and italic to differentiate quoted text from my current text.
But why would you have to be any more alert on the highway than normal simply because somebody else may be using a nav system in their car? :confuse: I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. IMO, thinking active nav systems is a bad idea is almost as ridiculous as thinking HID headlights are bad "because they blind oncoming traffic." I love HIDs and they can help me better see Darwin's Finest veer into my lane as they stare directly at a bright light source.
"Like a moth to a flame, burned by the fire..." :sick:
H (plus one letter) = I A (plus one letter) = B L (plus one letter) = M
Just move one letter ahead in the alphabet to solve this mindbender. Any other simple tasks I can help you with, kyfdx? :P
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Guess I should have my propeller beenie revoked, or start working in binary ....
Um, yeah, I work for that company. They bought my company about 5 years ago, and we provide the database software (called UniVerse) that R&R uses for their application.
I got confused with that episode of "West Wing" where the White House folks were peeved that a company called JCN was going to outsource a bunch of work to India. JCN minus 1 letter is IBM.
I travel to different cities, a lot. I've got a portable unit (Nuvi=great). I do use the voice features because it's hard enough knowing where I am without taking my eyes off the road to read the NAV map. That said, program the destination while stopped, not while moving.
I DO have an issue with those who want to watch a movie on their NAV systems while driving, however. There isn't one good reason I've heard (and no, entertaining your passenger isn't a good reason)to have that capability in any car, for any reason. It's flat out dangerous....to the driver, the passenger(s) and those who are driving around you (who are hoping you aren't looking at the screen as you're weaving and getting ready to slam into the person in front of you).
As you say, though....there's nothing common about common sense.
Defensive driving in hard enough just dodging the fools. Then when you add in the wild and crazy low flyers, cell phone distracted, etc. you really have to be defensive. Now if you add in another few percent of drivers distracted by nav systems, that is more that I have to dodge. If they come out of a side street missing the stop sign and broadside me and I am seriously injured or killed, that is pretty serious in my estimation.
A little off the subject...left work yesterday. Going east on a divided parkway street. See fire trucks, police cars. Westbound is blocked off. It's dark but I can see remains of a car in the trees on the far side. Get home and turn on the news. Corvette apparently going too fast, out of control and slams the rear of the car in a large tree. Residents said he was trapped and could not get out before the fire got him. It seems that he was the only victim, but he could have easily taken others with him. Most of us survive the daily adventure, but those innocent victims that don't are more than a molehill, IMHO.
Don't see what a Corvette knocking somebody into a tree has to do with nav systems. But a nav system is no more distracting than someone being enthralled in a cell phone conversation.
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THIS IS YELLING. Since we don't have a quote feature here, I use bold and italic to differentiate quoted text from my current text
OK, if that’s the way you want to do it. Most people here use italic only for what they are quoting/responding to without the bold-type. For someone that likes to cover all the bases, why are you not willing to pay a little MORE attention to the road when driving rather than a little less?
But why would you have to be any more alert on the highway than normal simply because somebody else may be using a nav system in their car?
It’s just one more challenge that I now have to deal with as a result of this new technology. I know I don’t have a prayer of changing the rules but I am allowed my opinion ain’t I?
IMO, thinking active nav systems is a bad idea is almost as ridiculous as thinking HID headlights are bad "because they blind oncoming traffic."
Hey, now that you brought it up, what do you suppose is the best way to get rid of these things too? I’m thinking put it on the same legislative bill as the ‘Nav System Ban.’
BTW, see how nice that italic only method works?
Happy motoring,
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
No need to be sorry, we just have a different opinion about this. Nobody can always agree with someone else. Heck, I can show you remnants of what happens when I disagree with Mrs. jmonroe and I really try to agree with her since I know the consequences but sometimes I just forget myself.
I do use the voice features because it's hard enough knowing where I am without taking my eyes off the road to read the NAV map. That said, program the destination while stopped, not while moving.
If I could be assured that everyone operated their Nav System like you do, I wouldn’t be so concerned. I’m sure you know people who are not as conscientious as you are. Those are the ones I’m concerned about.
As you say, though....there's nothing common about common sense.
See, we do agree sometimes.
Till the next disagreement,
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
on the tech side of life, I continue to be impressed that my first computer, in 1987, had a hard drive with 20, count 'em, 20 megabytes, and, I believe, an 8086 chip...this was before Windows 3.1, which later took up, I believe, between 15-20 MB for the entire operating system...
I think Windows XP now takes up, by itself, 100-120 MB...oh, for the days of 3.1 ...
we brought over all of our cars to the Hartford Auto show today.
One Range Rover Sport in Red
One LR3 in Green
and one Range Rover in white
Christmas colors.. :P
Of course because we still don't have 2007 MY cars we had to bring 2006 MY vehicles. :sick:
We also brought our 1959 Series II so that should be the star of the show. We had half of the autoshow staff crowding around it as I drove it in and everybody that walked past had to stop and look at it.
BR...none of us realized it at the time, but the eventual Xerox (Apple and windows) OS "toss-away" was one of the biggest blunders of modern American business. I've got plenty more examples that came out of PARC (Xerox PALO ALTO RESEARCH CENTER) while I was there...but never given any "weight" by Xerox.
How about computer networking (ethernet)?....or "point and click" computing?....all developed out of PARC while I was there, but never fully realized by Xerox.
But, those are different stories, for other places and times.
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You either have a lot of Hooters and strip clubs in Dallas Ft Worth, or not that many car dealers.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Although I'm told that Houston has the highest per capita rate of strip clubs and such in the US.
Well, I live near Charlotte and think I know which Ford dealer "blkandblu" was referring to. In Charlotte, it seems like you don't typically see just 1 car dealership, you end up seeing a row of them.
If Dallas Ft Worth is like Charlotte, you can literally have 5-15 dealerships all side by side (and across) from one another, with 1 Hooters and a strip club in the same area.
Yep thats pretty much how they are around here, clumped together in groups. But still there are a lot of those groups and not that many hooters and clubs.
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Why's that? If you exceed your monthly sales quota you get a free lap dance?
Is it just Texas, but are all wheel,leather, aftermarket girls look straight out of the strip clubs? We had a spoiler girl who every month end would come in and beg for business and say "I would do anything *wink wink* if you bought just 3 more spoilers so I can make my numbers....." Now we do have some professional looking and acting female vendors, but its like everystore I go to the accessory girls look like flotation devices and are as smart as bricks...
How is your month shaping up so far?
I have eight used vehicles and one new vehicle out so far which is an overall record for me.
Our directors have set new goals for all of the dealerships and if you meet those goals a lump sum bonus will be paid to the sales staff.
We have to do 40 new and used cars and we will get around about a 1000 dollars each for a bonus.
I must be missing something. Can you explain to me why you feel it is necessary that "all functions are available while flying down the freeway". Don't you consider this to be just a little unsafe?
It's unsafe for Darwin's Finest. Good common sense goes a long way. I would say that if a person doesn't have sense enough to know that he shouldn't be STARING at the nav system while putting in a destination on the move, he probably shouldn't have a nav system at all; or a radio for that matter. And unless the front passenger has no arms, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be able to put in a destination while on the move. :confuse:
Re: YOur spiff as the great Napoleon Dynamite says "LUCKY!"
To all the dealers, Have you heard of AUTOSOFT? We just dumped R&R and got this new System and it sucks, I have to recontract 2 people and The cutoff is at 10 tommorow, so I might get screwed out of some deals, or have to Sand Bag.
I have noticed over the years (I may have a couple on you here) that common sense isn’t as common as some people think it is. Since I’m forced to share the roads with everybody how am I supposed to identify, the ones with fully active Nav Systems, have this trait or not so I can put my head on a faster swivel cycle than what I normally use?
I would say that if a person doesn't have sense enough to know that he shouldn't be STARING at the nav system while putting in a destination on the move, he probably shouldn't have a nav system at all
Same as above.
...or a radio for that matter.
How many people do you know that STARE at a radio while flying (your word not mine) down the road but I may have to give you this one since I know there are some pretty sophisticated radios on the market today and those without common sense may be intrigued by all its features so as to command extended viewing. If you know many people that do stare at their radios, then I’m all for getting rid of these types of radios as well. However, in these cases it would be preferable to have their licence yaked, but I know this isn't going to happen.
Sometimes legislation is good and I feel this is one of those times.
BTW, are you upset with me that you have to yell like you do (use of all bold-type)? :surprise:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
So sorry to hear that ... as a support engineer for the division of the company that provides the database software that R&R bases their application on (think HAL minus 1 letter), it's good to get some positive independant feedback about the quality of their software.
I think you mean HAL plus 1 letter.
HA?
AL?
HL?
What is it?
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But why would you have to be any more alert on the highway than normal simply because somebody else may be using a nav system in their car? :confuse: I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. IMO, thinking active nav systems is a bad idea is almost as ridiculous as thinking HID headlights are bad "because they blind oncoming traffic." I love HIDs and they can help me better see Darwin's Finest veer into my lane as they stare directly at a bright light source.
"Like a moth to a flame, burned by the fire..." :sick:
Go one letter beyond H = I
Go one letter beyond A = B
Go one letter beyond L = M
You get it now?
A (plus one letter) = B
L (plus one letter) = M
Just move one letter ahead in the alphabet to solve this mindbender. Any other simple tasks I can help you with, kyfdx? :P
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Um, yeah, I work for that company. They bought my company about 5 years ago, and we provide the database software (called UniVerse) that R&R uses for their application.
I got confused with that episode of "West Wing" where the White House folks were peeved that a company called JCN was going to outsource a bunch of work to India. JCN minus 1 letter is IBM.
:sick:
Back to our regularly scheduled debate...
I travel to different cities, a lot. I've got a portable unit (Nuvi=great). I do use the voice features because it's hard enough knowing where I am without taking my eyes off the road to read the NAV map. That said, program the destination while stopped, not while moving.
I DO have an issue with those who want to watch a movie on their NAV systems while driving, however. There isn't one good reason I've heard (and no, entertaining your passenger isn't a good reason)to have that capability in any car, for any reason. It's flat out dangerous....to the driver, the passenger(s) and those who are driving around you (who are hoping you aren't looking at the screen as you're weaving and getting ready to slam into the person in front of you).
As you say, though....there's nothing common about common sense.
2001 explained
A little off the subject...left work yesterday. Going east on a divided parkway street. See fire trucks, police cars. Westbound is blocked off. It's dark but I can see remains of a car in the trees on the far side. Get home and turn on the news. Corvette apparently going too fast, out of control and slams the rear of the car in a large tree. Residents said he was trapped and could not get out before the fire got him. It seems that he was the only victim, but he could have easily taken others with him. Most of us survive the daily adventure, but those innocent victims that don't are more than a molehill, IMHO.
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OK, if that’s the way you want to do it. Most people here use italic only for what they are quoting/responding to without the bold-type. For someone that likes to cover all the bases, why are you not willing to pay a little MORE attention to the road when driving rather than a little less?
But why would you have to be any more alert on the highway than normal simply because somebody else may be using a nav system in their car?
It’s just one more challenge that I now have to deal with as a result of this new technology. I know I don’t have a prayer of changing the rules but I am allowed my opinion ain’t I?
IMO, thinking active nav systems is a bad idea is almost as ridiculous as thinking HID headlights are bad "because they blind oncoming traffic."
Hey, now that you brought it up, what do you suppose is the best way to get rid of these things too? I’m thinking put it on the same legislative bill as the ‘Nav System Ban.’
BTW, see how nice that italic only method works?
Happy motoring,
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
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Only if salespeople have used them for promos and have a tale to go with them!
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No need to be sorry, we just have a different opinion about this. Nobody can always agree with someone else. Heck, I can show you remnants of what happens when I disagree with Mrs. jmonroe and I really try to agree with her since I know the consequences but sometimes I just forget myself.
I do use the voice features because it's hard enough knowing where I am without taking my eyes off the road to read the NAV map. That said, program the destination while stopped, not while moving.
If I could be assured that everyone operated their Nav System like you do, I wouldn’t be so concerned. I’m sure you know people who are not as conscientious as you are. Those are the ones I’m concerned about.
As you say, though....there's nothing common about common sense.
See, we do agree sometimes.
Till the next disagreement,
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
(I actually worked at Apple in the early days of the Mac, in the Apple II forever days.)
I think Windows XP now takes up, by itself, 100-120 MB...oh, for the days of 3.1 ...
One Range Rover Sport in Red
One LR3 in Green
and one Range Rover in white
Christmas colors..
Of course because we still don't have 2007 MY cars we had to bring 2006 MY vehicles. :sick:
We also brought our 1959 Series II so that should be the star of the show. We had half of the autoshow staff crowding around it as I drove it in and everybody that walked past had to stop and look at it.
I will try and get some pictures for tomorrow.
Shows you how old I am (and how stupid my then employer was).
How about computer networking (ethernet)?....or "point and click" computing?....all developed out of PARC while I was there, but never fully realized by Xerox.
But, those are different stories, for other places and times.
You should swing by again though. We are all the way in the back corner by the bathrooms... :confuse: