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26,000 miles
9 on condition(rock hit windshield, caused crack)
added alarm, power locks, and tow hitch with brakes
I am sure you have read this, but If I were to offer up some advise, I would see what the dealer can do for you in financing. Sometimes they can beat what you have. Remember the extended warranty is negotiable too. If they won't sell it for a good price you can always find someone who will. You don't have to buy it the same time you buy your car. Good luck to you.
I always thought those aptitude tests were pretty degrading didn’t you? Although when I took them they always said I was qualified for just about anything that I wanted to pursue. I found out what “about” meant when I couldn’t get into med-school. There’s no need for me to edit, it’s correct, I always check my work before submitting it.
You win the prize for being right aabout the "For Sale" sign.
Thanks but I knew that before I submitted that post (see above).
Jipster, tell him what he's won!
I’ve seen what ‘jip’ was offering (post 7782) and he’s right, I don’t want it or door No.2. Frankly, I’m very disappointed with what ‘jip’ had to offer in post 7782. Having known him for a while, I was sure he could have done better than that. :sick:
Now, if ‘psorter’ would call the salesman and get an answer as to how the salesman got his phone number, that would put this issue to bed once and for all.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
In order to purchase cars at auto auctions in US and ONLY export these cars do I need to register a dealership?
Also since its and export only company do I still need to go through all this stuff with passing a test and owning a lot?
Another question is when I purchase a car what do i do with a title. Could it be just signed over to me? Can I ship a car with a title like that?
Also I am looking for dealers that would like to export cars and want to work with a company in europe and that participate in auctions- in NY,NJ,PE and NE region states. No more then 200miles from NYC.
Thanks
Until Psorter does, we're just going to tear each other apart. This issue is causing way too much distress.
I do believe the consensus is saying "aliens" were responsible. Let's see how it pans out.
-Moo
I recently saw the movie "Cars", and it's possible Psorter's Accord gave his personal info to the Fusion, who in turn blabbed to the salesman.
FUNNY
Another alternative which is very possible.
-Moo
Reasonable or unreasonable? What does it matter?
They didn't want to accept your offer - simple as that.
Don't throw a hissy fit. Either increase your offer or go somewhere else. The world does not operate according to your rules.
Those XE Titans had big rebates on them and could be purchased under 20k in '04. Your mileage is good, but I think that $12,100 is decent money.
The weird part of the deal is that they wouldn't take your offer. If you are paying their asking price, then they could overallow on your vehicle. In your state, do you have tax credit for trade-ins? (You pay taxes on the difference between trade-in value and purchase price.)
I would definitely find another dealership though. Check around for a similar vehicle and work out the numbers there. See for yourself if everything you're hoping for is unreasonable.
Good luck.
-Moo
But in the end it will be a breakeven or small loss situation for a lot of work that resulted in a) a good survey and b) 5 potential repeat customers ( x however many people they tell ).
You guys actually throw a party for yourselves or is that your employer who does that?
Either way I was in the wrong biz. :mad:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
The Trade in value is about $11000
The Privaate Party value is about $12500
The Dealer Retail value is about $13800
Here is a very direct and concise statement that I use with all people that are trading in vehicles. It was noted before and it almost always calms all emotional feelings about being 'abused' in the trade in process.
Unless the trader is way out of line in what he/she views the worth of the vehicle to be ( using Edmunds or Kbb is useful ) there is a given market price for all vehicles. There is a trade-in value which is normally $2000-$4000 below the market value. Which ever party does the work in selling, whether it's the owner or the dealer, earns the $2000-$4000.
It's really that simple. Whoever does the work makes the profit.
It looks like your truck if it is a 2WD is 'worth' about $13000-$14000. $11-$12000 sounds about right on trade in.
spyder,
This lady must have had an exceptional smile not to mention other attractive female attributes for you guys to have bent over backwards to please her like you did for as many times as you did.
Please don’t tell me you’d do the same for an overweight male with crooked teeth.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
oooo......Any bets as to how long this post will last? :surprise:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Levity?
You can't possibly believe that! :shades:
tidester, host
Caddy rated best customer service ??? :confuse:
I had a very minor conern with my bank account (at a midsized, regional bank) recently, and made the mistake of calling the toll-free customer service line instead of directly calling the branch I deal with. The CSR was rude and combative, and kept putting me on hold. She transferred me to someone at the local branch (without telling me she was doing so), and they quickly took care of the issue. I'm still thinking I'd rather do business with a small-town bank.
If he had only waited just another month, things could have been better. :sick:
However, I doubt that this article will sway his opinion of Cadillac.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I owned a string of Acura Integras - the first in 1986 and then a series of them through 1997. They had the best customer service experience that I've ever seen. Really well treated, including a free rental car during service - even though my cars were only Integras.
However, I really didn't like the 1997 Integra. Compared to the previous Integra's I'd owned, it was a cheaply made car. Rather pathetic, I thought in design and materials. I came to hate that car - it was no fun to drive, it was very noisy, and it started to show signs of wear on the interior at 10K miles. Little things screamed (or beeped) cheap! like the sad little single horn, the lousy radio, and the inaccurate clock - not to mention the one-piece rubbermaid interior.
Much as I had liked Acura up to that point, I dumped that car after a year and bought a BMW. Didn't even look at an Acura. I figured that Acura had cheaped-out on their whole line-up. After old man Sochiro Honda died in 1993, they'd lost their way as a company.
Up till then, I'd always expected to remain an Acura buyer, moving up through their model line. I could have bought a more expensive Acura than the Integra for a number of years prior to 1997, but I enjoyed the sportiness of the Integras- the previous ones had made fun commuter cars.
So bottom line - great service can only compensate so far for bad product (IMHO)
My favorite blog entry about this survey was this little blurb....
....from a 'self-described' independent institute. More likely a PR firm GM hired. Maybe even same firm that plants 'success' stories about Iraq in newspapers.
I've never heard of this "so called" institute.
As best I can tell, Cadillac, like all of GM, hasn't changed one iota. No matter how strong the evidence presented, nor the severity of their reliability problems, Cadillac/GM is still playing the "deny a problem exists" game. Even after the back window imploded on the STS (and on me), the Cadillac Zone Manager was trying to claim some sort of "unrealistic expectations" on my part. Gee....I kind of expected that the glass on a Cadillac is supposed to stay intact while driving. Silly me. Unrealistic of me to expect that the car starts.
Even though GM states they will abide by the BBB decision to resolve issues, they patently ignored the BBB decision and forced me to take legal action.
Yeah....that's great customer service. :sick:
My son's Hyundai has had better treatment from his dealership than I experienced with Cadillac. This "institute" probably got the opinion of one Cadillac owner. His name was Robert Lutz.
What a sham!!!!!!!!!!!
conspiracy theory
-Moo
Anybody hear from psorter lately? He's seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.
The employer does that. Actually three, one small one on the last day of tax season when we are getting the last paperwork into peoples hands. One a few weeks later which is an actual party for all employees and significant others a few weeks after the season ends. Then there is one about a month or so before the end of the year as a welcome back thing.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Yes, I noticed this too but I wanted to hear from others regarding its validity.
When I see surveys that are taken at the beginning of the year without qualifying that the results are from the previous year, I know real quick it’s just a PR announcement with no value what so ever.
Couple this with an outfit that nobody has heard of and you have to make at least 150K a year and I know for sure it’s worthless information. Why should a persons annual income have anything to do with the quality of a product?
I wouldn’t even want to hear Cadillac’s explanation of this survey. Watching paint dry would be a better use of my time than to hear that.
Using “lights and mirrors” as the major parameter for conducting a survey would have yielded more plausible results.
Like I’ve said before, GM still doesn’t get it.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Right...and if you want to buy a bridge...
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
Given the questionable source, I can see Cadillac laying out a little coin to post this garbage on the WEB
to somehow boost their terrible reputation.
Funny, but as much as I don't follow Consumer Reports, they just reported that Cadillac (especially the STS model) is the worst in reliability.
Quite a different tale than what the "luxury institute" reported.
I guess I need to join the club of this institute to get good customer satisfaction. Nobody has invited me to joint, though.
Oh wait... $150K.. never mind..
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Their sample size must be so small that I don't know how it's valid.
Maybe the institute is biased against Ohioans.
I have never known a dealer, domestic or otherwise who would turn down a deal with profit.
Forget Edmunds, its a guesstimate.
You don't know what they own the vehicle for, you don't know what profit they want to make, or even what their financial situation is.
Plus, it doesn't matter anyway.
There is no law that says a dealer has to take your offer.
A deal has to make sense financially to the dealer.
Don't ever take it personally, and don't read more into it that there is.
While we can't assume that this represents all those households with $150K income or more, it's probably around 90% of them..... In any case, we can safely assume that the number is greater than 10.3 million households.
So, it might not be unusual for none of us to be familiar with this institute, even if we do have the requisite income.
They could have quite a large (in the millions) sample size without including anyone that we've ever met.....
Oh, and geez.... Now I feel REALLY poor. :sick:
Levity?
That works, too. You get my point.
I remember a few years back buying a used Mustang. I could not get my price on a 97 Mustang but got it on a 98 Mustang at the same dealer on the same day. Everything was equal between the two vehicles except the color and the year. Sales guy said they had too much in the 97 Mustang to let it go for that price.
Correct. It's verbosity that just makes us go postal
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