Hey guys, one more question for you. Since it's the beginning of a new month, new incentive programs are starting on some makes. Do these promotions always start at the beginning of the month?
Just wondering, it seems Nissan has continued the $3500 rebate, but Chrysler seems to have dropped their $1000 cash back/$1000 customer loyalty incentive through May. Is there any way to know if something else will pop up this month? Or do most things for most manufacturers start on the 1st?
Most sales people will steal them from another car
That has to be all over. When my grandfather bought his '98 Town Car used it didn't have a full size spare. This was a deal breaker for him. The salesman said that all the used TCs were open, go find one with a full size and I'll swap it, of course I made sure I found one that had the 5th alloy wheel as well!
the delayed gratifications of my recent car purchase have made it to me. $500 target(the store) gift card and $110 i had as rewards towards buying a car on a credit card i have. the $110 has been sitting there for a while because i switched to using another card that accumulates money towards college. I think i'm up to about a days worth after 2 or 3 years.
2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
Lease turn ins is where I get spare remotes from....
Now that almost everything Nissan has is going to I key I don't knwo what I am going to do for side money.
There are only two sales people here at the dealer that know how to reprogram remotes. Me and one other veteran. Everyone always wants to know but I ain't telling :shades:
You say why doesn't service do it. First reason is too much time, paper work, frustration, and you loose $120 on your gross for service to do it.
Me... I have my spare remotes ( and everyone knows the rule have the vehicle pulled right up front for me) And I have it done in 2 minutes. I do most of them right before delivery. Also most of these are for used cars also. When everything goes to I key I won't be able to do it because you need a computer for those thisngs
I'll be loosing money... But I still have the manufacturer computer tests for each vehicle. :shades:
Or do most things for most manufacturers start on the 1st?
Most things start at the beginning of the month. Sometimes manudfacturers put out fast starts and there will be dealer cash for some vehicles for the first half of the month... Than sometimes it is the other way around. But every month things can change.
The salesman said that all the used TCs were open, go find one with a full size and I'll swap it, of course I made sure I found one that had the 5th alloy wheel as well!
That was pretty bad oon the salesman's part. He should have been the one to go look and put it in your vehicle before you picked up!
I'm just curious since i recently purchased a certified used Toyota Camry, Woud I get any floor mats with a new car if you decide not to go with the price for example if i bought a new Camry and said yes to floor mats i would get Camry mats like i have now, however if said no on a new purchase to mats would i just get plain mats or none at all?
He should have been the one to go look and put it in your vehicle
Looking back on it you are probably right. It wasn't a big deal at the time. In the second or third car I looked at I found what I needed and the lot guy did the rest while the paperwork was being finished up.
Could be worse, when I was in high school my first car (an 8 or 9 year old Dodge) had no floor mats either, of course it also had no floor but thats beside the point.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I remember cars like that. My brother once had an old 65 Mustang convertible. When you had the top down you basically had no top and no bottom. Somehow the sides held it all together....
2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
My Chrysler convertible didn't have floor mats. I wasn't worried. When I buy a car, I take a little necessity list with me: Floor mats, tank of gas, one free oil change, two keyless remotes, and a manual. They have never turned me down. I got burned this time on the manual. They promised to mail it to me, but it never came---even after I made a reminder call. I purchased one for $25 from another dealer who ordered and had it to me in one week. You're correct. Nothing is free.
My Chrysler convertible didn't have floor mats. I wasn't worried. When I buy a car, I take a little necessity list with me: Floor mats, tank of gas, one free oil change, two keyless remotes, and a manual.
Wow, my 07 Chrysler hardtop came with mats, although I thought they were too nice to get dirty so I ordered the slush mats and put the pretty ones in protective storage in my basement.
It also included a full tank of gas, free lifetime oil changes and tire rotation (I have to pay for the filter), two keyless remotes (well, the key and the remote are all one piece) and two manuals (one is for the MyGIG system).
It wasn't a big deal at the time. In the second or third car I looked at I found what I needed and the lot guy did the rest while the paperwork was being finished up.
To me that is just unproffesional and I am sure all the guys here feel the same way. But there are those people out there who think the world owes them something. :confuse:
Personally, I would spend $30 and buy a new set of floor mats at Pepboys or Walmart. That's what I did when I bought my pre-owned Buick. I suppose they were swiped out by another salesman and were not replaced. I asked where they were... he said he didn't know. :sick:
I've done that before but I always write the stock number of the vehicle I take the mats from and order a new set. They are usually in a day or two later then my parts manager calls me and I pick the mats up and put them back where I took some from. I wish everyone was like me but nobody's perfect. There's been plenty of times when I've sold a vehicle and the mats are listed on the sticker but are nowhere to be found in the vehicle. Sometimes this happens with remotes. Our lot attendants usually put all the extra keys and remotes in the owner's manuals stock pack but they are only human and sometimes they forget. I will find remotes in the center console, glove compartment, side door storage pockets, and even in the trunk! Ah, the car biz, gotta love it. :shades:
Nissan doesn't program remotes for new cars? All Toyotas that have the keyless remote fobs are programmed at the factory. Now I can truly say: "Toyota is the superior import!" :P Mack
I missed lunch today so I went to my cousin Gabriel's Mexican restaurant for lunch/dinner. I tried something new today and it was out of this world! It's called La Veracruzana which means "The girl from Veracruz". Man, she was good! It consists of rice and beans, marinated chicken breast and marinated shrimp with onions, mushrooms, tomatoes, and bell peppers, and flour tortillas. Mmmm good! Needless to say I can't believe I ate the whole thing! I still feel full from the meal. Just to keep on topic, one of the waiters had asked me the last time I was in to be on the lookout for a 98 Toyota Camry or Corolla. Well we have a 98 Camry le with 102k on the clock and very nice and clean. Only $5000.00 plus ttl. Before I tell him about it he asks me if we have any 05 Hondas. I tell him I don't know but I will look. (I don't think this guy will ever buy a car) Next week he'll ask me if I have any 88 Nissans :sick: Mack
A lot of times, the old floor mats are so ratty that the detailers just throw them away.
I thought about that. But, it was a Buick owned by an older couple, and the interior was in really good shape. They really didn't fit the profile of people who would rat up their floor mats. They probably had them covered in plastic since the day they bought the car.
I didn't recognize it at the time of my purchase, but about a week after I had bought my car I noticed it had 3 different brands of tires on it. They were all the same size, but different makes. Two of them were in semi crappy shape... a bit dry rotted and buldgeing in places on the sidewall. I didn't notice it at the dealership as they had all that shiny tire protectant stuff on the tires. My guess was that they were swapped out. :sick:
Nope, it shares most of the drive train and other mechanical parts with its brothers (Camry, Highlander,,etc.) Heck, back in 2005 when I still had my 88 MR2 there were still replacement parts and mats for it at the parts warehouse in Glen Burnie MD. They are probably still there since I was the only one buying stuff for the MR2 back then. They discontinued the TRD racing clutch which I wanted to replace mine with. Dang, that would have made the car twice the fun! Mack :shades:
First time poster and post is a bit long. Here is a true buyer at the frontline story....and baiting & Switching..? I was looking at replacing my second car that I had sold about 6 months ago and my wife had her eye on a 09 Corolla LE with MSRP of $18394. I went to dealer nearby and made an offer of $16,400 for this car, with no trade in but dealer refused offer saying his cost was 16,890 and that would be his bottom price so I left. I had sent out 4 request for quotes from dealers in the St. Louis area and received 3 replies with prices from $16,800 to $17,300 for this car. I selected a dealer, checked his online inventory and selected a Corolla with MSRP of $18,394 and sent his internet sales manager a e-mail.saying that if he wanted to sell this car for $16,400 ( stock #xxxx) to contact me and that I would purchase on 4-30-08. Next morning 4-30-08, I check my e-mail and have an email from this internet sales manager. "Thanks for your reply. Your offer on the Corolla is $455 below invoice price on this vehicle...BUT...it is the last day of the month-can you make it today to get a corolla we have in stock? We're here until 9:00pm tonight." I send an e-mail back and ask "Are you accepting my offer on the 09 Corolla LE stock #xxxx of $16,400. ? Get back with me and let me know. My wife has some shopping planned so we leave and I take my Laptop computer along and about 2 1/2 hours later we have lunch and I again check my e-mail and I have a reply "Yes, we're accepting your selling price if you can make it TODAY".
In 1986, Peter Davies was on holiday in Kenya after graduating from Northwestern University.
On a hike through the bush, he came across a young bull elephant standing with one leg raised in the air. The elephant seemed distressed, so Peter approached it very carefully.
He got down on one knee and inspected the elephant's foot and found a large piece of wood deeply embedded in it. As carefully and as gently as he could, Peter worked the wood out with his hunting knife, after which the elephant gingerly put down its foot.
The elephant turned to face the man, and with a rather curious look on its face, stared at him for several tense moments. Peter stood frozen, thinking of nothing else but being trampled. Eventually the elephant trumpeted loudly, turned, and walked away. Peter never forgot that elephant or the events of that day.
Twenty years later, Peter was walking through the Chicago Zoo with his teenaged son. As they approached the elephant enclosure, one of the creatures turned and walked over to near where Peter and his son Cameron were standing. The large bull elephant stared at Peter, lifted its front foot off the ground then put it down. The elephant did that several times then trumpeted loudly, all the while staring at the man.
Remembering the encounter in 1986, Peter couldn't help wondering if this was the same elephant. Peter summoned up his courage, climbed over the railing and made his way into the enclosure.
He walked right up to the elephant and stared back in wonder. The elephant trumpeted again, wrapped its trunk gently around Peter legs, lifting him carefully then slammed his stupid [non-permissible content removed] against the railing, killing him instantly. Probably wasn't the same elephant.
Mack, I think you left out the part about Peter stopping off at the zoo while test driving a vehicle with a salesperson going along for the ride. We do need to keep these stories related to the sales frontlines afterall.
Continued....Yes, we're accepting your selling price if you can make it TODAY. So, I tell my wife that the dealer has accepted my offer and lets drive over and finalize the deal, now this requires a drive of about 35 milea and we arrive at the dealership at about 2:00pm. It's a big newer Toyota dealership with lots of salespeople waiting around the front door and one comes up to us as soon as we get out of our car.....I ask for the internet sales manager by name and the salesman goes to look for him. We stand around for a few minutes and soon here comes the internet sales manager, he greets us, tells us what a great dealership it is and that they have a 10 year/100 thousand mile warranty on their cars and he wants us to take a look at the car that we had made an offer on.....he leaves to go get the keys and is gone awhile and comes back and says that he can't find the keys, maybe a salesman has the key. So he asked us to take a seat, offers refreshments and says he needs a little time to locate the keys....about 15 minutes or so he comes back with a salesman and says that he is having trouble finding the keys and maybe we could go with the salesman to look at the other Corollas that they have in stock. Now we walk out with the salesman to a golf cart and take a ride thru the back lots of the dealership and finally get to where they have some corollas. Now there are only 5 Corollas there, Cambrys everywhere but they only have 5 Corollas and none were the color we wanted or equipped the same as the one we had made an offer on. We climb back onto the golfcart for a ride back up to the showroom and on the way back the salesman drives by the cleanup area for cars that have been sold and there is the car that I had made an offer on, I could see the stock # on the front window. We get back to the showroom and the salesman goes back to the internet manager and talks with him and the internet manager comes back to us and says that it looks like the car we wanted had already been sold...BUT...let him see what he could do. Again we are setting & waiting and now our salesman comes over with a sheet of paper and says that they have a car coming in that is the color that we wanted, it will be there in about a month +/-, all they need from me is to put up a $500 deposit. Well, we don't have to have the car immediately bu my wife is getting aggitated with all this delay. I tell the salesman that I want to see the final numbers on this car before I am going to give him any depost money and off he goes again. After about 10 minutes he is back wit some figures. Now the car that is ordered has a lower MSRP of $18194 and there is an Administrative Fee of $199. I say no the MSRP being lower and the car will not have all the options as the one I made an offer on and my wife says no to the Administrative fee. The salesman tells us that they charge this fee on all their cars and I mention another delaer in the St. Louis area that advertises there is no addition fees and tell him that I do not want to pay it.....now he suggests that maybe we could just split it...I still sy no and off he goes again and in about 5 minutes he is back wit a copy of their 10 year/100 thousand mile warranty and says that if I pay the $199 administrative fee then I will get the warranty. I remind him that when we came in the internet manager gave us the sales pitch about what a great dealership and that they had this 10 year/100 thousand mill warranty on all their cars and now he is trying to get me to pay $199 for the warranty and the answer is still no....the salesman leaves again and this time brings back a sales manager with him who sits down and tries to tell us that we have to may this administrative fee. I tell him there is no mention of administrative fee on their internet listing, OH, he sys, I didn't know this was an internet deal and gets up and leave but is back soon saying that since thay are ordering the car it is not an internet deal and the $199 administrative fee has to be paid. By this time boty my wife and I have had about all of this deal that we can stand. The sales manager is trying to get a deposit on a cheaper listing car, $200 less that what we had selected and also trying to get another $199 administrative fee and we would be waitin a month or more for a car. He was really trying to bump our $16,400 offer to $16,800 for a car that lists for $200 less.. We tell him NO WAY and leave. By the time we drive home we have wasted about 3 hours of our time due to leaving the dealership at about the peak of rush hour traffic. I really believe that the internet sales manager knew that the car that I had made an offer on had already been sold and that he wanted to get us to come in and try to sell us another car. He could say the car is already sold and not have to honor my offer...OR... they sent a salesman out when we got there to bring the car up and park it with the cars for cleanup that had been sold Now, in fairness to the internet sales manager, it is possible that the car was sold that day before I arrived, I don't know for sure, but I do have my doubts. I am going to watch their internet inventory and see if that car gets removed if it really was sold. This is how it really was on the buyers side of the frontlines...and I won't ever be going back to that dealership again.
I say goodnight to the sales manager and receptionist while filling out a clean up slip and gas ticket. I walk through the service bay to the prep department and they are all gone by now. The door to the prep manager's office is now locked so I hand the key on the door handle and roll the gas/clean up ticket and put it in the loop of the key strap so it doesn't fall off. The thought of taking the mats runs through my mind but I decide not to. It's late and I'm not about to look for one that has the ash mats. It would take too much time.
I head out to my trusty friend Camry and get in and head home. The next morning I get up for my dental appointment and call my buddy Tom to ask him a favor.
"Hey bob-alou! Are you at work?" I ask. "Yea, what do you need?" he replies. "I just need you to check with prep and make sure they got the key and the cleanup ticket for the blue Highlander I sold." I tell him. "Where's the vehicle at?" he asks, "Right behind prep on the service parking. You can't miss it. It's the only Highlander in the bunch." I respond. "Ok, I'll go back there to check on it and call you back."
I head out to my appointment and get to the dentist's office and wait my turn. They come and get me after 15 minutes and we go over my chart. I tell the doc that there's a molar that's been bothering me and the last time I was in he made it worse by poking it. He looks at it and takes an x-ray. Looks like an abscess tooth so he prescribes me some anti-biotics and tells me to take them for two weeks and if doesn't improve the tooth will have to come out. Yikes! I hate tooth extractions! On my way out I stop to talk to the receptionists to see if they need a car. They are ok with their current vehicles but I just like to keep my name out there just in case. I head out to my car and still no call from my buddy on the Highlander status. I head out to my clinic to fill my prescription and also pick up a refill that I put in last week. I don't have to wait long and then I head home to get some chow.
I get home and nobody's there. Mackabee III is usually sleeping around this time as he works the mid shift at his place of employment. I think he's probably gone to one of his classes. I take the opportunity to bang on my drums some.
I'm jamming to some Eagles stuff with Joe Walsh, Funk#49, Walk away, Life's been good, and a new one One day at a time. I look at my watch and it's time to go.
I arrive at the dealership and the Highlander is already to go and sitting in a parking space nice and pretty. I go to a computer terminal and print a "WE OWE" for the mats. The sales manager signs it and I head to the parts department. We have them in stock. Mike brings me the mats I give him the we-owe and off I go to put the mats in the vehicle. I look at the plastic wrapping and it says: Carpet mat set 3 pc. I have a blonde moment and I'm thinking they are counting the front mats as one piece, and the middle mat as the second piece and the third row mat as the third piece. DUH! When I open the bag there are only the two front mats and the middle mat. Dang! :sick:
I go back to parts to see if they have the third row mat in stock. Mike has already left so Julie tells me I need a we-owe. "I gave Mike a we-owe for the set but he gave me the ones for the base Highlander without the third row seat. I got a Sport with the third row." She goes to a small office and finds the original we owe. "Ok, I'll put it on the we owe. First I got to see if we have one in stock." she tells me. I start crossing my fingers as I would hate to have to order it and have the customer come back for it.
As luck would have it the mat is in stock and I take it and put it in the vehicle. Now I'm just waiting for my customer to show up....... TO BE CONTINUED.......
That sure sounds like a shady dealership i would've taken my business elsewhere, I do have have a question as a recent certified Toyota Camry buyer I took delivery just last week and you mention in your story of a 10 year/100,000 mile warranty? is this something on just all new Toyota's ? or was it just that specific dealership offering 10 years instead of the 7 year/100,000 mile warranty? I had also purchased the Platinum warranty which only goes out to the 7 year/100,000 miles from what i was told.
You're giving too much credit to the internet guy. From what you've told us I can gather you were dealing with a bunch of incompetents starting with the internet manager all the way to the sales manager.
Seems to me this is a dealership that will say anything to get a customer in. This type of mentality is propagated by upper management and the ownership doesn't care as long as their coffers are being filled.
A professional would have put his hands on the car first, taken the key, and put a "SOLD" sign on it with your name and the date of delivery. He should have informed the desk manager the car was sold and it was an internet deal at the agreed price. Then he would have taken the owner's manuals and extra keys and locked them up until you were ready to test drive and take delivery of the car. Your description of events sounds like a Chinese fire drill. I don't think they had the intention of selling you that car for the price you offered. If their cost was $16,890.00 and you offered $16,400.00 then they were counting on you wanting the car bad and try to switch you to another one in stock or an incoming unit. The $199.00 was a lame attempt at getting some of the lost money back. In my region we are not discounting Corollas much due to the price of gas going up and demand for the car also going up.
Forget about asking for a discount on a Prius. We are pre-selling those like in the beginning.
Looks like a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. Mack
"That sure sounds like a shady dealership i would've taken my business elsewhere,"
Judging from the tactics they used they are very shady if not unethical. New Toyotas come with a 5 year or 60k mile power train warranty and 3 year or 36k mile comprehensive warranty. Any 7/100k warranty will run at least $900.00 so how they would include a 10/100k is beyond me. Even at $199.00 it is not possible.
Certified Toyotas offer 7/100k power train warranty and 90 days comprehensive warranty, plus roadside assistance for the duration of the power train warranty. This has to be a Certified Pre-owned bought at a franchised Toyota dealer.
There are some independent dealers that will advertise cars as "Certified" misleading the buying public. Only a Toyota dealer can sell certified Toyotas. :shades:
Thanks for the explanation Mack i've heard of that as well and i think we have a few dealerships here that say they have certified Toyotas when they are not Toyota brand dealerships, I made sure to buy from a Toyota store especially with adding the platinum care which is backed by Toyota as well.
The internet sales manager is vague in his response to your offer on a specific model. i.e He says, "Can you make it in today to get a Corolla we have in stock?" Then again you mention the particular stock #, and his response is "Yes, we are accepting your selling price if you can make it today."
So, on two separate occasions the internet sales manager does not answer your question about availability in the particular Corolla in which you have given a stock number. This tells me he is being less than honest. He didn't outright lie to you, but he led you to believe the Corolla was there when it wasn't. You should have pinned him down though on a definitive answer in reguards to the car in question. i.e "YES or NO... do you have 09' Corolla LE stock #xxxxx in front of you as of this second, AND is it still for sale?"
A lot of times, the old floor mats are so ratty that the detailers just throw them away.
Better no mats than ugly worn out ones.
I agree and I’ve seen this myself.
Usually the carpets under those mats are as pretty as the day the car came off the line. Why ruin a good thing with worn out mats?
FWIW, to save the mats in my car from the winter weather, the first winter I had the car I went to the department store and bought four new towels that were the closest color (beige) to the mats in my car. On a cold Saturday, just before the first snow, as I’m putting them around the mats (in the family room) and putting duck/duct tape on the bottom side to hold the towels neatly in place, ‘guess who’ comes home from a shopping spree and sees what I’m doing?
She says, “you bought brand new towels for THAT”? I said, “sure, I don’t want these mats to be a mess come Spring time” !!! She says, I could have given you some old towels for that” and I said, “they wouldn’t match all the way around”. She says, “now look who wants to have color coordinated things. C’mon its towels covering car mats that are only going to be used for a couple of months and they’re going to get filthy anyway. And BTW this room isn’t a garage why are you doing that up here?” :confuse:
I said, “just because it’s a Hyundai doesn’t mean I should have gold, blue, gray and white towels decorating it” :mad:
I wash those towels at the end of winter and they’re used again the next year. Those mats are as nice today as when I bought the car.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
FWIW, to save the mats in my car from the winter weather, the first winter I had the car I went to the department store and bought four new towels that were the closest color (beige) to the mats in my car
towels? Not only is that ghetto... it's cheap!
Mrs. Jip bought a brand new set of floor mats when we bought our new minivan back in 04'. Maybe $30 or so at Target. Took out the nice new ones with the Mazda embroidery, and replaced with the nice color matched ones from Target. I do insist though, that on special trips, we take out the Target mats and put in the factory ones from Mazda. I always travel first class ya know. :P
LOL!!! You are an absolute scream! I knew that you were a tight [non-permissible content removed], but towels instead of a set of mats?! Are you kidding? Four nice bath towels cost as much as a set of color coordinated mats from Target. You see what happens when you try to be cheap? You really didn't save any money. Poor Mrs. jmonroe. No wonder she doesn't have her new dining room furniture. Just wait. You'll come home one day and find a $10,000 surprise in your dining room. I really need to call that nice lady. Hope she sneaks up behind you and reads this. :P
the first winter I had the car I went to the department store and bought four new towels that were the closest color (beige) to the mats in my car
Another thing to do is simply buy a cheap set of clear plastic mats and place them over the factory ones. This will protect them and doesn't look all that bad. I have had the same set for the last few cars.
i've been on vacation (lake tahoe is beautiful - everyone should visit at some point! peaceful, and the water is so blue!!) so i am just catching up on the posts, and lo and behold, is a post referencing my wonderful way of keeping something off topic, on topic!
so hi everyone, im back from my vacation, now working from home as a freelance designer (no more dull gray cube!) so i can keep up a little better with the forums here. but i'll tell ya, some of you guys talk way over my head! i was born in 1980, so i know nothing about high beam switches in the footwells or whether or not there was an elevator in the washington monument...yada yada.
I have a son a year older than you! I bet you don't remember the Beta vs VHS battle of the vcr's . How about Atari, space invaders, pac-man (no not the part time football player),, Mack :shades:
Nissan doesn't program remotes for new cars? All Toyotas that have the keyless remote fobs are programmed at the factory.
I was maily talking about preowned cars... But sometimes a new car is missing a remote. Or which happens mostly lately, is someone will sell a base 2.0 sentra. Which doesn't come with remotes. Every one knows I can do it two minutes so they promise every customer remotes on those vehicles.
But in two years or even one I won't be able to reprogram any remotes for used Altimas or maximas or most of Nissan because the Ikey is pretty much going on everything.
" putting duck/duct tape on the bottom side to hold the towels neatly in place"
All the duct tape I've used, after about 2 weeks the adhesive sets and either will not come off or stays sticky FOREVER and no solvent know to man will clean it up.
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No floor mats! No wonder he's selling it...
No...
Most sales people will steal them from another car to put them in which opens up another problem for the car that had the matts stolen out of them.
I might have had to do this once or twice
GP
Just wondering, it seems Nissan has continued the $3500 rebate, but Chrysler seems to have dropped their $1000 cash back/$1000 customer loyalty incentive through May. Is there any way to know if something else will pop up this month? Or do most things for most manufacturers start on the 1st?
Again, thanks for the help!
That has to be all over. When my grandfather bought his '98 Town Car used it didn't have a full size spare. This was a deal breaker for him. The salesman said that all the used TCs were open, go find one with a full size and I'll swap it, of course I made sure I found one that had the 5th alloy wheel as well!
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british_rover (May 01, 2008 10:00 pm)
Cd cartridges No... We don't have any of those but if we did that might be a different story.
Manuals... Yes did one of those today as a matter of fact... :surprise:
And for the record I have also been the guy looking for missing stuff also
GP
$500 target(the store) gift card and $110 i had as rewards towards buying a car on a credit card i have. the $110 has been sitting there for a while because i switched to using another card that accumulates money towards college. I think i'm up to about a days worth after 2 or 3 years.
Lease turn ins is where I get spare remotes from....
Now that almost everything Nissan has is going to I key I don't knwo what I am going to do for side money.
There are only two sales people here at the dealer that know how to reprogram remotes. Me and one other veteran. Everyone always wants to know but I ain't telling :shades:
You say why doesn't service do it. First reason is too much time, paper work, frustration, and you loose $120 on your gross for service to do it.
Me... I have my spare remotes ( and everyone knows the rule have the vehicle pulled right up front for me) And I have it done in 2 minutes. I do most of them right before delivery. Also most of these are for used cars also. When everything goes to I key I won't be able to do it because you need a computer for those thisngs
I'll be loosing money... But I still have the manufacturer computer tests for each vehicle. :shades:
GP
Most things start at the beginning of the month. Sometimes manudfacturers put out fast starts and there will be dealer cash for some vehicles for the first half of the month... Than sometimes it is the other way around. But every month things can change.
GP
That was pretty bad oon the salesman's part. He should have been the one to go look and put it in your vehicle before you picked up!
gP
Looking back on it you are probably right. It wasn't a big deal at the time. In the second or third car I looked at I found what I needed and the lot guy did the rest while the paperwork was being finished up.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
I'll be sure to check in for part 3 of Mack's story about the perfect buyer, tho, looking forward to it!
In a year or two, will the parts that he needs become collector's items as well? :P
Richard
Could be worse, when I was in high school my first car (an 8 or 9 year old Dodge) had no floor mats either, of course it also had no floor but thats beside the point.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Yep so are 8-tracks.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Richard
Wow, my 07 Chrysler hardtop came with mats, although I thought they were too nice to get dirty so I ordered the slush mats and put the pretty ones in protective storage in my basement.
It also included a full tank of gas, free lifetime oil changes and tire rotation (I have to pay for the filter), two keyless remotes (well, the key and the remote are all one piece) and two manuals (one is for the MyGIG system).
To me that is just unproffesional and I am sure all the guys here feel the same way. But there are those people out there who think the world owes them something. :confuse:
GP
Personally, I would spend $30 and buy a new set of floor mats at Pepboys or Walmart. That's what I did when I bought my pre-owned Buick. I suppose they were swiped out by another salesman and were not replaced. I asked where they were... he said he didn't know. :sick:
Better no mats than ugly worn out ones.
There's been plenty of times when I've sold a vehicle and the mats are listed on the sticker but are nowhere to be found in the vehicle. Sometimes this happens with remotes. Our lot attendants usually put all the extra keys and remotes in the owner's manuals stock pack but they are only human and sometimes they forget. I will find remotes in the center console, glove compartment, side door storage pockets, and even in the trunk! Ah, the car biz, gotta love it.
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Mack
I tried something new today and it was out of this world! It's called La Veracruzana which means "The girl from Veracruz". Man, she was good! It consists of rice and beans, marinated chicken breast and marinated shrimp with onions, mushrooms, tomatoes, and bell peppers, and flour tortillas. Mmmm good!
Needless to say I can't believe I ate the whole thing! I still feel full from the meal.
Just to keep on topic, one of the waiters had asked me the last time I was in to be on the lookout for a 98 Toyota Camry or Corolla. Well we have a 98 Camry le with 102k on the clock and very nice and clean. Only $5000.00 plus ttl. Before I tell him about it he asks me if we have any 05 Hondas. I tell him I don't know but I will look. (I don't think this guy will ever buy a car) Next week he'll ask me if I have any 88 Nissans :sick:
Mack
I thought about that. But, it was a Buick owned by an older couple, and the interior was in really good shape. They really didn't fit the profile of people who would rat up their floor mats. They probably had them covered in plastic since the day they bought the car.
I didn't recognize it at the time of my purchase, but about a week after I had bought my car I noticed it had 3 different brands of tires on it. They were all the same size, but different makes. Two of them were in semi crappy shape... a bit dry rotted and buldgeing in places on the sidewall. I didn't notice it at the dealership as they had all that shiny tire protectant stuff on the tires. My guess was that they were swapped out. :sick:
They are probably still there since I was the only one buying stuff for the MR2 back then. They discontinued the TRD racing clutch which I wanted to replace mine with. Dang, that would have made the car twice the fun!
Mack
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Here is a true buyer at the frontline story....and baiting & Switching..?
I was looking at replacing my second car that I had sold about 6 months ago and my wife had her eye on a 09 Corolla LE with MSRP of $18394. I went to dealer nearby and made an offer of $16,400 for this car, with no trade in but dealer refused offer saying his cost was 16,890 and that would be his bottom price so I left.
I had sent out 4 request for quotes from dealers in the St. Louis area and received 3 replies with prices from $16,800 to $17,300 for this car. I selected a dealer, checked his online inventory and selected a Corolla with MSRP of $18,394 and sent his internet sales manager a e-mail.saying that if he wanted to sell this car for $16,400 ( stock #xxxx) to contact me and that I would purchase on 4-30-08.
Next morning 4-30-08, I check my e-mail and have an email from this internet sales manager. "Thanks for your reply. Your offer on the Corolla is $455 below invoice price on this vehicle...BUT...it is the last day of the month-can you make it today to get a corolla we have in stock? We're here until 9:00pm tonight." I send an e-mail back and ask "Are you accepting my offer on the 09 Corolla LE stock #xxxx of $16,400. ? Get back with me and let me know.
My wife has some shopping planned so we leave and I take my Laptop computer along and about 2 1/2 hours later we have lunch and I again check my e-mail and I have a reply "Yes, we're accepting your selling price if you can make it TODAY".
TO Be CONTINUED...
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In 1986, Peter Davies was on holiday in Kenya after graduating from Northwestern University.
On a hike through the bush, he came across a young bull elephant standing with one leg raised in the air. The elephant seemed distressed, so Peter
approached it very carefully.
He got down on one knee and inspected the elephant's foot and found a large piece of wood deeply embedded in it. As carefully and as gently as he could, Peter worked the wood out with his hunting knife, after which the elephant gingerly put down its foot.
The elephant turned to face the man, and with a rather curious look on its face, stared at him for several tense moments. Peter stood frozen, thinking of nothing else but being trampled. Eventually the elephant trumpeted loudly, turned, and walked away. Peter never forgot that elephant or the events of that day.
Twenty years later, Peter was walking through the Chicago Zoo with his teenaged son. As they approached the elephant enclosure, one of the
creatures turned and walked over to near where Peter and his son Cameron were standing. The large bull elephant stared at Peter, lifted its front
foot off the ground then put it down. The elephant did that several times then trumpeted loudly, all the while staring at the man.
Remembering the encounter in 1986, Peter couldn't help wondering if this was the same elephant. Peter summoned up his courage, climbed over the railing
and made his way into the enclosure.
He walked right up to the elephant and stared back in wonder. The elephant trumpeted again, wrapped its trunk gently around Peter legs, lifting him
carefully then slammed his stupid [non-permissible content removed] against the railing, killing him instantly. Probably wasn't the same elephant.
Mack
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Mack
So, I tell my wife that the dealer has accepted my offer and lets drive over and finalize the deal, now this requires a drive of about 35 milea and we arrive at the dealership at about 2:00pm. It's a big newer Toyota dealership with lots of salespeople waiting around the front door and one comes up to us as soon as we get out of our car.....I ask for the internet sales manager by name and the salesman goes to look for him. We stand around for a few minutes and soon here comes the internet sales manager, he greets us, tells us what a great dealership it is and that they have a 10 year/100 thousand mile warranty on their cars and he wants us to take a look at the car that we had made an offer on.....he leaves to go get the keys and is gone awhile and comes back and says that he can't find the keys, maybe a salesman has the key. So he asked us to take a seat, offers refreshments and says he needs a little time to locate the keys....about 15 minutes or so he comes back with a salesman and says that he is having trouble finding the keys and maybe we could go with the salesman to look at the other Corollas that they have in stock. Now we walk out with the salesman to a golf cart and take a ride thru the back lots of the dealership and finally get to where they have some corollas. Now there are only 5 Corollas there, Cambrys everywhere but they only have 5 Corollas and none were the color we wanted or equipped the same as the one we had made an offer on. We climb back onto the golfcart for a ride back up to the showroom and on the way back the salesman drives by the cleanup area for cars that have been sold and there is the car that I had made an offer on, I could see the stock # on the front window. We get back to the showroom and the salesman goes back to the internet manager and talks with him and the internet manager comes back to us and says that it looks like the car we wanted had already been sold...BUT...let him see what he could do.
Again we are setting & waiting and now our salesman comes over with a sheet of paper and says that they have a car coming in that is the color that we wanted, it will be there in about a month +/-, all they need from me is to put up a $500 deposit. Well, we don't have to have the car immediately bu my wife is getting aggitated with all this delay. I tell the salesman that I want to see the final numbers on this car before I am going to give him any depost money and off he goes again. After about 10 minutes he is back wit some figures. Now the car that is ordered has a lower MSRP of $18194 and there is an Administrative Fee of $199.
I say no the MSRP being lower and the car will not have all the options as the one I made an offer on and my wife says no to the Administrative fee. The salesman tells us that they charge this fee on all their cars and I mention another delaer in the St. Louis area that advertises there is no addition fees and tell him that I do not want to pay it.....now he suggests that maybe we could just split it...I still sy no and off he goes again and in about 5 minutes he is back wit a copy of their 10 year/100 thousand mile warranty and says that if I pay the $199 administrative fee then I will get the warranty. I remind him that when we came in the internet manager gave us the sales pitch about what a great dealership and that they had this 10 year/100 thousand mill warranty on all their cars and now he is trying to get me to pay $199 for the warranty and the answer is still no....the salesman leaves again and this time brings back a sales manager with him who sits down and tries to tell us that we have to may this administrative fee. I tell him there is no mention of administrative fee on their internet listing, OH, he sys, I didn't know this was an internet deal and gets up and leave but is back soon saying that since thay are ordering the car it is not an internet deal and the $199 administrative fee has to be paid.
By this time boty my wife and I have had about all of this deal that we can stand. The sales manager is trying to get a deposit on a cheaper listing car, $200 less that what we had selected and also trying to get another $199 administrative fee and we would be waitin a month or more for a car. He was really trying to bump our $16,400 offer to $16,800 for a car that lists for $200 less.. We tell him NO WAY and leave. By the time we drive home we have wasted about 3 hours of our time due to leaving the dealership at about the peak of rush hour traffic.
I really believe that the internet sales manager knew that the car that I had made an offer on had already been sold and that he wanted to get us to come in and try to sell us another car. He could say the car is already sold and not have to honor my offer...OR... they sent a salesman out when we got there to bring the car up and park it with the cars for cleanup that had been sold
Now, in fairness to the internet sales manager, it is possible that the car was sold that day before I arrived, I don't know for sure, but I do have my doubts.
I am going to watch their internet inventory and see if that car gets removed if it really was sold.
This is how it really was on the buyers side of the frontlines...and I won't ever be going back to that dealership again.
Comments welcomed
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I say goodnight to the sales manager and receptionist while filling out a clean up slip and gas ticket. I walk through the service bay to the prep department and they are all gone by now. The door to the prep manager's office is now locked so I hand the key on the door handle and roll the gas/clean up ticket and put it in the loop of the key strap so it doesn't fall off. The thought of taking the mats runs through my mind but I decide not to. It's late and I'm not about to look for one that has the ash mats. It would take too much time.
I head out to my trusty friend Camry and get in and head home.
The next morning I get up for my dental appointment and call my buddy Tom to ask him a favor.
"Hey bob-alou! Are you at work?" I ask. "Yea, what do you need?" he replies. "I just need you to check with prep and make sure they got the key and the cleanup ticket for the blue Highlander I sold." I tell him. "Where's the vehicle at?" he asks, "Right behind prep on the service parking. You can't miss it. It's the only Highlander in the bunch." I respond. "Ok, I'll go back there to check on it and call you back."
I head out to my appointment and get to the dentist's office and wait my turn. They come and get me after 15 minutes and we go over my chart. I tell the doc that there's a molar that's been bothering me and the last time I was in he made it worse by poking it. He looks at it and takes an x-ray. Looks like an abscess tooth so he prescribes me some anti-biotics and tells me to take them for two weeks and if doesn't improve the tooth will have to come out. Yikes! I hate tooth extractions! On my way out I stop to talk to the receptionists to see if they need a car. They are ok with their current vehicles but I just like to keep my name out there just in case. I head out to my car and still no call from my buddy on the Highlander status. I head out to my clinic to fill my prescription and also pick up a refill that I put in last week. I don't have to wait long and then I head home to get some chow.
I get home and nobody's there. Mackabee III is usually sleeping around this time as he works the mid shift at his place of employment. I think he's probably gone to one of his classes. I take the opportunity to bang on my drums some.
I'm jamming to some Eagles stuff with Joe Walsh, Funk#49, Walk away, Life's been good, and a new one One day at a time. I look at my watch and it's time to go.
I arrive at the dealership and the Highlander is already to go and sitting in a parking space nice and pretty. I go to a computer terminal and print a "WE OWE" for the mats. The sales manager signs it and I head to the parts department. We have them in stock. Mike brings me the mats I give him the we-owe and off I go to put the mats in the vehicle. I look at the plastic wrapping and it says: Carpet mat set 3 pc. I have a blonde moment and I'm thinking they are counting the front mats as one piece, and the middle mat as the second piece and the third row mat as the third piece. DUH!
When I open the bag there are only the two front mats and the middle mat. Dang! :sick:
I go back to parts to see if they have the third row mat in stock. Mike has already left so Julie tells me I need a we-owe. "I gave Mike a we-owe for the set but he gave me the ones for the base Highlander without the third row seat. I got a Sport with the third row." She goes to a small office and finds the original we owe. "Ok, I'll put it on the we owe. First I got to see if we have one in stock." she tells me. I start crossing my fingers as I would hate to have to order it and have the customer come back for it.
As luck would have it the mat is in stock and I take it and put it in the vehicle. Now I'm just waiting for my customer to show up.......
TO BE CONTINUED.......
Seems to me this is a dealership that will say anything to get a customer in. This type of mentality is propagated by upper management and the ownership doesn't care as long as their coffers are being filled.
A professional would have put his hands on the car first, taken the key, and put a "SOLD" sign on it with your name and the date of delivery. He should have informed the desk manager the car was sold and it was an internet deal at the agreed price. Then he would have taken the owner's manuals and extra keys and locked them up until you were ready to test drive and take delivery of the car. Your description of events sounds like a Chinese fire drill.
I don't think they had the intention of selling you that car for the price you offered. If their cost was $16,890.00 and you offered $16,400.00 then they were counting on you wanting the car bad and try to switch you to another one in stock or an incoming unit. The $199.00 was a lame attempt at getting some of the lost money back. In my region we are not discounting Corollas much due to the price of gas going up and demand for the car also going up.
Forget about asking for a discount on a Prius. We are pre-selling those like in the beginning.
Looks like a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.
Mack
Judging from the tactics they used they are very shady if not unethical. New Toyotas come with a 5 year or 60k mile power train warranty and 3 year or 36k mile comprehensive warranty. Any 7/100k warranty will run at least $900.00 so how they would include a 10/100k is beyond me. Even at $199.00 it is not possible.
Certified Toyotas offer 7/100k power train warranty and 90 days comprehensive warranty, plus roadside assistance for the duration of the power train warranty. This has to be a Certified Pre-owned bought at a franchised Toyota dealer.
There are some independent dealers that will advertise cars as "Certified" misleading the buying public. Only a Toyota dealer can sell certified Toyotas.
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So, on two separate occasions the internet sales manager does not answer your question about availability in the particular Corolla in which you have given a stock number. This tells me he is being less than honest. He didn't outright lie to you, but he led you to believe the Corolla was there when it wasn't. You should have pinned him down though on a definitive answer in reguards to the car in question. i.e "YES or NO... do you have 09' Corolla LE stock #xxxxx in front of you as of this second, AND is it still for sale?"
Better no mats than ugly worn out ones.
I agree and I’ve seen this myself.
Usually the carpets under those mats are as pretty as the day the car came off the line.
FWIW, to save the mats in my car from the winter weather, the first winter I had the car I went to the department store and bought four new towels that were the closest color (beige) to the mats in my car. On a cold Saturday, just before the first snow, as I’m putting them around the mats (in the family room) and putting duck/duct tape on the bottom side to hold the towels neatly in place, ‘guess who’ comes home from a shopping spree and sees what I’m doing?
She says, “you bought brand new towels for THAT”? I said, “sure, I don’t want these mats to be a mess come Spring time” !!! She says, I could have given you some old towels for that” and I said, “they wouldn’t match all the way around”. She says, “now look who wants to have color coordinated things. C’mon its towels covering car mats that are only going to be used for a couple of months and they’re going to get filthy anyway. And BTW this room isn’t a garage why are you doing that up here?” :confuse:
I said, “just because it’s a Hyundai doesn’t mean I should have gold, blue, gray and white towels decorating it” :mad:
I wash those towels at the end of winter and they’re used again the next year. Those mats are as nice today as when I bought the car.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
towels? Not only is that ghetto... it's cheap!
Mrs. Jip bought a brand new set of floor mats when we bought our new minivan back in 04'. Maybe $30 or so at Target. Took out the nice new ones with the Mazda embroidery, and replaced with the nice color matched ones from Target. I do insist though, that on special trips, we take out the Target mats and put in the factory ones from Mazda. I always travel first class ya know. :P
Richard
Another thing to do is simply buy a cheap set of clear plastic mats and place them over the factory ones. This will protect them and doesn't look all that bad. I have had the same set for the last few cars.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
so hi everyone, im back from my vacation, now working from home as a freelance designer (no more dull gray cube!) so i can keep up a little better with the forums here. but i'll tell ya, some of you guys talk way over my head! i was born in 1980, so i know nothing about high beam switches in the footwells or whether or not there was an elevator in the washington monument...yada yada.
but...
YAY FOR CARS!!
-thene ;-)
Mack :shades:
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
I was maily talking about preowned cars... But sometimes a new car is missing a remote. Or which happens mostly lately, is someone will sell a base 2.0 sentra. Which doesn't come with remotes. Every one knows
I can do it two minutes so they promise every customer remotes on those vehicles.
But in two years or even one I won't be able to reprogram any remotes for used Altimas or maximas or most of Nissan because the Ikey is pretty much going on everything.
GP
All the duct tape I've used, after about 2 weeks the adhesive sets and either will not come off or stays sticky FOREVER and no solvent know to man will clean it up.