Wow, glad I don't live where that yahoo guy does. We had our best April in the last 4 years here.
But then again the media thrives on the doom and gloom and stuff. I found multiple articles on GM's $3+ billion loss but had to look hard to find articles about our $100 Million profit.
I took delivery last week just before month end and i was surprised at how many people were out test driving and sales people that were running around to keep up you wouldnt think the economy is hurting, must be the spring car buying bug has sprung it sure bit me
But before you see them one of our delivery coordinators (Rust and Dust, Mop and Glo girls) will come over and take about 15 minutes to go over your free oil changes, state inpections, and other freebies, and also to tell you about paint protection and interior protection."
Went through the paint and protection pitch/speech with last new car and it took perhaps 15 minutes. Next time around, I will tell salesperson that I will listen to spiel if I get same rate as shop techs ($90-$100/hour) to listen, on a cash-in-advance basis. I will sit and listen for $25 up front, no other way. Will see how their diplomacy operates.
We have bought three vehicles in a row from this dealership and may well get our next one there. Their service, service department personnel, sales persons, everyone else right down to the cashier are excellent. BUT, this one obnoxious thing about the paint and protection pitch is insulting to me as a customer. I and wife treat all persons there through the years with dignity and respect. We expect the same in all matters while on dealership property.
BUT, this one obnoxious thing about the paint and protection pitch is insulting to me as a customer. I and wife treat all persons there through the years with dignity and respect. We expect the same in all matters while on dealership property.
It is just some one doing there job, in the big picture it is only 15 minutes and unless they are being disrespectful to you in there approach then I would not be to worried about it.
Believe it or not we have compliance issues we have to adhere to now days. The issue is that we have to offer 100% of the products to 100% of the people. If not then we get in a trick bag if we are ever involved in an audit.
Maybe try the approach of before the pitch starts say something like," I know that you are just doing your job but to save us both a little time and to let you move on to a customer that may be interested let me tell you that we have bought 3 cars here and are familiar with the product and are not interested" At that point you will probably sign a refusal form and you can both move on.
At that point you will probably sign a refusal form and you can both move on.
That was not offered, perhaps we are always just too polite. Next car, maybe just a firm, "NO", and "We are not interested to hear about "Mop and Glo", "Please respect our wishes", then, "Let's move on to signing papers". This may well be my approach. Isn't the customer supposed to be right? Shouldn't a trained dealership salesperson sense what a customer does "not" want and then back off and respect that customer?
Also, there is no way that I am signing any type of "refusal form". Is that a legal procedure? Has that been run by State Attorney General Office? Why does a customer have to sign a form if he/she elects not to get a salesman pitch?
Now, now---let's not split fan belts over the similarities between Lincoln and Kennedy. On the World Wide Web, there are a dozen or more web sites which debate these similarities. No one, including the two of us, will ever be able to refute or confirm all of these parallels. Let's just agree that there were a few similarities, and that some may or may not be true.
As for the opinions that Mack and I hold on the Warren Commission, they are also debatable in many circles. One fact remains true: all presidents drove nice cars---or carriages.
Also, there is no way that I am signing any type of "refusal form".
Its a pretty common thing. Its basically to cover their [non-permissible content removed]. This way you can't come back in two years with a problem and say "I was never offered...." Think about when you rent a car, you always have to intial that you are declining their "damage waivers" and insurance.
Do you mean to tell me that someone else makes towels other than Ralph Lauren? :P You and imidazol97 have now convinced me that towels are the way to go for mats in snow states. You see, I'm a flexible old dog who can learn new tricks. I'm not as stubborn as some people. :shades:
When you make that trip south, stop by and we'll treat you to a Pinehurst dinner. I need to talk to Mrs. jmonroe about some furniture.
Its a pretty common thing. Its basically to cover their [non-permissible content removed]. This way you can't come back in two years with a problem and say "I was never offered...."
What kind of problem are you talking about?
Maintenance of an owned car, including regular wash/wax, oil/filter changes, other maintenance "as specified" in owner manual and/or car computer reminder is always the owner's responsibility. What exactly is the dealer trying to cover with the signing of a sale pitch refusal form?
I will ask again - Is asking customer to sign a form stating he/she did not want to get pitched on mop and glo legal? A customer should merely be able to say, "NO, I do not want to hear about mop and glo", and that is the end of the issue.
I will ask again - Is asking customer to sign a form stating he/she did not want to get pitched on mop and glo legal? A customer should merely be able to say, "NO, I do not want to hear about mop and glo", and that is the end of the issue. .
Isn't the customer supposed to be right? Shouldn't a trained dealership salesperson sense what a customer does "not" want and then back off and respect that customer?
Ya,that way some knuckle head can drag me into court and say
"But your honor no one ever offered me a VSC, if I knew it was availabe I would have purchased it then I would not have a $4000 service bill"
When we bought our Odyssey last year and got to the finance office you could totally tell that they knew people did not want to spend a lot of time there - the F&I guy that dealt with us absolutely flew through the spiel, I think I may have mentioned at the start that I was not interested in any long term warranties, mop & glo, etc. etc. Although he didn't outright say it, it was like, "please give me a good CSI, I got you in and out of here in 8 minutes". It also didn't hurt that our antsy 2-year old was in the office with us. He got a perfect CSI from me...
My 2 cents on floor mats - Weathertechs rock! Shortly after delivery of our Ody we ordered the new laser-fitted FloorLiner mats that protect all along the floor and several inches up the sides - plus they protect the middle too. The carpet stays as pristine as the day we bought it. Sold the OEM mats on eBay.
CUSTOMER DECLINES COVERAGE John Smith confirms that the following products were presented as below and declined. These products are offered as part of the vehicle sale transaction and may not be available after the fact, in retrospect, or as stand-alone products.
$13.05/mo. GAP Pays the difference between your loan balance and your insurance settlement. Level: over 60 months Price: $595.00
$26.34/mo. LoJack Theft recovery system with money back guarantee if stolen and not recovered. Level: Total Package Price: $1,195.00
$9.83/mo. Tire and Wheel Repairs or Replaces tire and wheel due to damage from road hazards. Level: 5 year Price: $399.00 Customer Signature: ________________________________________ Date: ______________ All terms, conditions, payment amounts and APR are estimates only that are subject to final lender approval. All options set forth above have been fully explained to me. I selected the payment option indicated and fully understand that the purchase of any option is not required, that options may be purchased separately, and that my decision to purchase or not will HAVE NO EFFECT on my APR, credit approval, or ability to obtain base financing. According to the Gramm Leach Bliley Act, I have been advised of the Dealer Privacy Notice Law, and further authorize the Dealer to send my Nonpublic Personal Information to Dealer's vendors. 5/6/2008 10:51:32 AM CDT
fully understand that the purchase of any option is not required, that options may be purchased separately, and that my decision to purchase or not will HAVE NO EFFECT on my APR, credit approval, or ability to obtain base financing.
When we bought our last car (Oct 07, invoice, no trade in), the F&I person offered us the mop & glow, lojack, service contract. When we declined them all, he said that our interest rate on our loan would be higher because "we are no making any money."
Completely illegal, but I let it go because we had already lined up financing through our credit union.
I just read this on the internet---so it must be true!
Chrysler is rolling out a plan (good through June 2) where any buyer/lessee of a Chrysler product will get their gas purchases capped at $3.00/gallon for the next three years--up to 12,000 miles of driving per year. The average savings if gas stays at $3.60/gallon is $355/year. Of course if prices continue to climb...
This strikes me as a much better deal than the current gas tax fiasco being proposed. I'm surprised the presidential candidates aren't working in concert with the automakers to save Americans money, after all $355/year is a lot better than $30/year and the various DOT's can still fix roads and bridges. I'm not in the market, but I wonder if this will persuade others who are on the fence to use their stimulus checks accordingly.
Salesmen--can we expect similar plans to be forthcoming from the other manufacturers? Perhaps just the domestics who have lots of trucks and SUVs to unload will jump in?
Good idea? Gimmick? Both? Neither? Or should Chrysler be focusing efforts on improving the fuel economy of their fleet instead of subsidizing inefficiency. Richard, I think it's time to trade-in...this is the signal you've been waiting for so don't delay!
Its been done before, basically you get a gas card with $XXX on it to use. When we did it last year it was free gas for a year or something was the come on, you could either accept the gift card or just use that amount as an additional rebate.
Out of all the sales and promotions we have done over the last 10 years 2 really worked to spike the sales.
1. When every one got A-plan price
2. The 0% for 72 months. We really rocked with that program. We could call almost any one in our base and lower there payment
And when you do read about the 100 million dollar profit a lot of people assume it includes the 1.8 billion or so from the sale of Jag/LR.
If you read the details you will find that not only does Fords's first quarter numbers not include money from the sale of Jag/LR it doesn't even include any revenue from Jag/LR.
I am sure Jag/LR made several 100 million dollars in profit for the first quarter of 2008 but all that money is I assume being banked away for Tata till the deal closes.
Its a gimmick. As the report said, they are being very sketchy on the details. They haven't said how much they will pony up. It also excludes any car that takes premium gas. It also negates any other rebates. So even if it does save you $1k in gas, it will cost you the standard rebate (whatever that is ... $2k? $3k?).
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You and imidazol97 have now convinced me that towels are the way to go for mats in snow states.
Ughh.. you've been brainwashed (reprogrammed). A nasty ole towel, even if color coordinated, taped to the floor of anything, is just plain ghetto. It's like keeping your headliner up with thumbtacks... or keeping the vinyl roof covering of your auto stuck to the metal using Liquid Steel. I can see maybe using the towel floor mats on a Kia, but not a Hyundai... that is just starting to acquire a more pedigreed reputation.
Plus, sticking a lanky ole towel on the floor is a recipe for disaster. Skimp a little bit on the tape, the next thing you know you're traveling down the highway at 80mph, unable to use the brakes, because you've got a bath towel wrapped around your legs. :sick:
The best thing to do, I'll repeat since no one was paying attention, buy some $30 floor mats from Target. Or, If you are too cheap for that, go to your living room when the Mrs. isn't home, pull out the sofa, and cut out a couple big hunks of carpet. :P
According to the Gramm Leach Bliley Act, I have been advised of the Dealer Privacy Notice Law, and further authorize the Dealer to send my Nonpublic Personal Information to Dealer's vendors.
This has to be a typo.
To me, “Nonpublic” means PERSONAL. Why would anyone authorize giving away their Personal Information to anyone? :confuse:
jmonroe
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It's like keeping your headliner up with thumbtacks...
Watch it I did something like that on my 80’ Park Ave. Although I went high tech and used push-pins bent at 90 degrees about a ¼ inch back from the tip. It held perfectly. I even mentioned this on one of these forums (when we got off topic once before), but it was only a temporary fix until I had the headliner replaced.
Believe it or not Mrs. jmonroe didn’t like the various colored pins I used so I replaced them all with the clear ones. Still no good but what choice did I have, the trim shop had to order the color for the car and it was going to take 7/10 days.
Plus, sticking a lanky ole towel on the floor is a recipe for disaster. Skimp a little bit on the tape, the next thing you know you're traveling down the highway at 80mph, unable to use the brakes, because you've got a bath towel wrapped around your legs.
Boy oh boy, what a lame excuse for not doing a job. SKIMP, why would I do something like that, I’m working on a Hyundai? :confuse:
Or, If you are too cheap for that, go to your living room when the Mrs. isn't home, pull out the sofa, and cut out a couple big hunks of carpet.
I’d buy a pair of tickets to watch the fall out of that at your place.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
You know, I thought about it. We were buying a Grand Cherokee, hardly a high demand vehicle. However, we were buying a pretty specific combination that had to be factory ordered. There weren't any other similarly equipped cars in a 300 mile radius. The salesperson was very nice through out the factory order process. And I didn't want to take the sale away from him. Oh, and we had already sold our other vehicle.
However, I should've complained to the appropriate state agency.
No it doesn't. You can fill up with whatever gas you want. If you choose 88-89 octane there is a $.15 per gallon surcharge; if you fill up with 90-94 octane there is a $.30 per gallon surcharge. No surcharge for diesel, which is already higher than premium gas. Sounds like a pretty good deal.
As far as it negating any other rebates, it is no different that the dealer offering a choice of low interest financing or a cash rebate - pick whichever you prefer.
Thanks for the "signal", but I don't want to trade. I love the Chrysler convertible that I have now. BTW, the top is down this week---wonderful convertible weather.
I would love to believe the article about the gas, but they will just jack up the price of the cars or do away with rebates, or force you to buy "Mop & Glo", etc. Young arts professionals like yourself are more trusting, but as you get older, you'll learn that you can't trust people---especially car manufacturers.
There was one thing about art and music professionals that I admired when I was hiring them---their belief that people are honest, straight forward, and caring. I really took care of them after they were hired. They worked harder, put in more long hours, did without needed supplies, and complained less than many teachers. Keep up your wonderful work. SUPPORT THE ARTS!
"In fact, you never made it to my 'stop and visit list'."
I'm so glad that you decided not to accept my kind invitation. After I posted it, I realized that Pinehurst would never allow you inside the city limits with towels covering your floor mats. :P We cater to a higher clientele here. :shades:
Today was a glorious top down day at the Jersey shore. I had a Sebring years ago and enjoyed it a lot. Gave it up in a family expansion when we got the first Ody but now have a 99 Celica convertible (last year for such a thing) that I found nearby on Ebay. Heap big fun.
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"Did you know that Ross sell RL bath towels for $4.99 each?"
Yes, I did know that. They also sell his sheet sets for $30.00! We love that store. You just have to hit them on the right day. Believe me, my wife knows just the right days.
To stay on topic: The next thing that we will hear is that jmonroe is using cheap towels for his seat covers. :P
Thank you for making a nice comment about the Sebring. Chryslers take such a bashing on this site. I love convertibles. I'll put the top down at 40 degrees, turn on the heater, wear a warm coat and hat, take a cup of coffee, and go for a ride. My wife swears that she is going to call a psychiatrist, but they refuse to see me anymore. :P Enjoy yourself.
Dear Team Captain, I knew that you would be disappointed in me. What could I do? I ran out of arguments. I wish that I had heard about speterson's Weathertechs before I finally gave in to jmonroe and imidazol97. The Weathertechs sound like the perfect answer. BTW, can you give jmonroe demerits for using those towels? He'll use them next on his seats. :P There is just no accounting for taste on this team.
The Sebring really excels with the top down. It has the advantage of being built at the factory as a convertible as opposed to the Celica which got shipped over with a roof and then chopped up. The Celica is more fun to poke in with the top up, but one thing I loved about the Sebring was that you could be quite comfortable in cold weather with the heat on and the top down. Heck, there were really hot days where I'd have the top down and the air on. Of course gas was $1.50 then....
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Because we can't finance a car for you unless we send your info to the bank.
Anything that would help the buyer finance the car is acceptable but your original post 28495 said :
"According to the Gramm Leach Bliley Act, I have been advised of the Dealer Privacy Notice Law, and further authorize the Dealer to send my Nonpublic Personal Information to Dealer's vendors."
The part that bothers me is the "...Personal Information to Dealer's vendors". How do I know who the "Dealer Vendors" are? Where does it stop? Sounds like a barn door being opened to me.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Sounded that way to me as well. That would be a deal breaker for me with it being open ended like that.
I do show up with my financing in hand usually. If the dealer can beat that I will let them do that but not sign a blank check for any clown to get my information. I've learned that oen the hard way.
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Na your safe because the Gramm Leach Bliley Act specifies what we can and cannot do with your info. In a nut shell not in lawyer talk it says that we can disclose your info to the bank to secure financing, the state to do the title work, and your insurance company to adhere with state laws. Other then that your info will be safe guarded in accordance with.
Looks like this is mainly an internal tracking mechanism of ownership of dealers to make sure that salesmen, salesladies have pitched "high margin" items to each and every customer. Those of you in the car sales business perhaps might realize "why" customers are very wary when coming in to look at and buy a vehicle. From my perspective, the prices and optional mop and glo type items are for "chumps". But, as most everyone knows, especially salespeople, "There is a S------- born every minute".
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Reach me with my private email: karen_mouston@hotmail.com Sincerely Yours, Karen Mouston.
With my cut of the money, I shall buy a car! Yay! Wonder if she knows Duke, your Marine buddy in Iraq?
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Thank you for making a nice comment about the Sebring. Chryslers take such a bashing on this site.
Chrysler just has to learn that advertising dollars can go a long way toward a favorable review. I bought my first Sebring last fall and I love it. It has so many gadgets I call it my playground on wheels.
Speaking of convertibles I didn't have the top up on my commute to work today. However, my bicycle doesn't have a top, so it was no different than any other riding day.
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But then again the media thrives on the doom and gloom and stuff. I found multiple articles on GM's $3+ billion loss but had to look hard to find articles about our $100 Million profit.
Mack
Went through the paint and protection pitch/speech with last new car and it took perhaps 15 minutes. Next time around, I will tell salesperson that I will listen to spiel if I get same rate as shop techs ($90-$100/hour) to listen, on a cash-in-advance basis. I will sit and listen for $25 up front, no other way. Will see how their diplomacy operates.
We have bought three vehicles in a row from this dealership and may well get our next one there. Their service, service department personnel, sales persons, everyone else right down to the cashier are excellent. BUT, this one obnoxious thing about the paint and protection pitch is insulting to me as a customer. I and wife treat all persons there through the years with dignity and respect. We expect the same in all matters while on dealership property.
It is just some one doing there job, in the big picture it is only 15 minutes and unless they are being disrespectful to you in there approach then I would not be to worried about it.
Believe it or not we have compliance issues we have to adhere to now days. The issue is that we have to offer 100% of the products to 100% of the people. If not then we get in a trick bag if we are ever involved in an audit.
Maybe try the approach of before the pitch starts say something like," I know that you are just doing your job but to save us both a little time and to let you move on to a customer that may be interested let me tell you that we have bought 3 cars here and are familiar with the product and are not interested" At that point you will probably sign a refusal form and you can both move on.
Key words being "you can both move on".
I've decided to remove all wine glasses from my computer table by 11pm. :P
Richard
That was not offered, perhaps we are always just too polite. Next car, maybe just a firm, "NO", and "We are not interested to hear about "Mop and Glo", "Please respect our wishes", then, "Let's move on to signing papers". This may well be my approach. Isn't the customer supposed to be right? Shouldn't a trained dealership salesperson sense what a customer does "not" want and then back off and respect that customer?
Also, there is no way that I am signing any type of "refusal form". Is that a legal procedure? Has that been run by State Attorney General Office? Why does a customer have to sign a form if he/she elects not to get a salesman pitch?
As for the opinions that Mack and I hold on the Warren Commission, they are also debatable in many circles. One fact remains true: all presidents drove nice cars---or carriages.
Richard
Its a pretty common thing. Its basically to cover their [non-permissible content removed]. This way you can't come back in two years with a problem and say "I was never offered...." Think about when you rent a car, you always have to intial that you are declining their "damage waivers" and insurance.
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When you make that trip south, stop by and we'll treat you to a Pinehurst dinner. I need to talk to Mrs. jmonroe about some furniture.
Richard
What kind of problem are you talking about?
Maintenance of an owned car, including regular wash/wax, oil/filter changes, other maintenance "as specified" in owner manual and/or car computer reminder is always the owner's responsibility. What exactly is the dealer trying to cover with the signing of a sale pitch refusal form?
I will ask again - Is asking customer to sign a form stating he/she did not want to get pitched on mop and glo legal? A customer should merely be able to say, "NO, I do not want to hear about mop and glo", and that is the end of the issue.
Yes its legal. What would be illegal about it.
Ya,that way some knuckle head can drag me into court and say
"But your honor no one ever offered me a VSC, if I knew it was availabe I would have purchased it then I would not have a $4000 service bill"
Then the Judge looks at me and a I say
"Well your honor, I "sensed" he didn't want it
My 2 cents on floor mats - Weathertechs rock! Shortly after delivery of our Ody we ordered the new laser-fitted FloorLiner mats that protect all along the floor and several inches up the sides - plus they protect the middle too. The carpet stays as pristine as the day we bought it. Sold the OEM mats on eBay.
CUSTOMER ACCEPTS COVERAGE
John Smith confirms that the following products were presented as below
and accepted.
Extended Service Plan
Coverage: PremiumCARE
Term: 72/75000
Deductible: 100
Price: $1,110.00
Basic Maintenance
Coverage: 5
Term: 60000
Interval: 7500
Price: $690.00
CUSTOMER DECLINES COVERAGE
John Smith confirms that the following products were presented as below and
declined. These products are offered as part of the vehicle sale transaction and
may not be available after the fact, in retrospect, or as stand-alone products.
$13.05/mo. GAP
Pays the difference between your loan balance
and your insurance settlement.
Level: over 60 months
Price: $595.00
$26.34/mo. LoJack
Theft recovery system with money back
guarantee if stolen and not recovered.
Level: Total Package
Price: $1,195.00
$9.83/mo. Tire and Wheel
Repairs or Replaces tire and wheel due to
damage from road hazards.
Level: 5 year
Price: $399.00
Customer Signature: ________________________________________ Date: ______________
All terms, conditions, payment amounts and APR are estimates only that are subject to final lender approval. All options set forth above have been fully
explained to me. I selected the payment option indicated and fully understand that the purchase of any option is not required, that options may be purchased
separately, and that my decision to purchase or not will HAVE NO EFFECT on my APR, credit approval, or ability to obtain base financing. According to the
Gramm Leach Bliley Act, I have been advised of the Dealer Privacy Notice Law, and further authorize the Dealer to send my Nonpublic Personal Information to
Dealer's vendors.
5/6/2008 10:51:32 AM CDT
When we bought our last car (Oct 07, invoice, no trade in), the F&I person offered us the mop & glow, lojack, service contract. When we declined them all, he said that our interest rate on our loan would be higher because "we are no making any money."
Completely illegal, but I let it go because we had already lined up financing through our credit union.
"Completely illegal, but I let it go because we had already lined up financing through our credit union."
Me, I would have stood up and walked out. There are plenty of other dealers that would sell me the car at invoice.
I just read this on the internet---so it must be true!
Chrysler is rolling out a plan (good through June 2) where any buyer/lessee of a Chrysler product will get their gas purchases capped at $3.00/gallon for the next three years--up to 12,000 miles of driving per year. The average savings if gas stays at $3.60/gallon is $355/year. Of course if prices continue to climb...
This strikes me as a much better deal than the current gas tax fiasco being proposed. I'm surprised the presidential candidates aren't working in concert with the automakers to save Americans money, after all $355/year is a lot better than $30/year and the various DOT's can still fix roads and bridges. I'm not in the market, but I wonder if this will persuade others who are on the fence to use their stimulus checks accordingly.
Salesmen--can we expect similar plans to be forthcoming from the other manufacturers? Perhaps just the domestics who have lots of trucks and SUVs to unload will jump in?
Good idea? Gimmick? Both? Neither? Or should Chrysler be focusing efforts on improving the fuel economy of their fleet instead of subsidizing inefficiency. Richard, I think it's time to trade-in...this is the signal you've been waiting for so don't delay!
Gogiboy
Out of all the sales and promotions we have done over the last 10 years 2 really worked to spike the sales.
1. When every one got A-plan price
2. The 0% for 72 months. We really rocked with that program. We could call almost any one in our base and lower there payment
If you read the details you will find that not only does Fords's first quarter numbers not include money from the sale of Jag/LR it doesn't even include any revenue from Jag/LR.
I am sure Jag/LR made several 100 million dollars in profit for the first quarter of 2008 but all that money is I assume being banked away for Tata till the deal closes.
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Thanks for the invite but you, my friend, ain’t goin anywhere near that girl. :P
In fact, you never even made it to my 'stop by and visit list'.
jmonroe
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I read an article on Yahoo this morning saying that the 2009 is one of the most improved vehicles of the year F150 is
Something that jmonroe may be interested in. And yes they are 100% cotton and made in the USA. I won't say how much the same towels cost at Macy's.
We Zaino guys are always on the look out for 100% made in the USA white cotton towels. :shades:
Ughh.. you've been brainwashed (reprogrammed). A nasty ole towel, even if color coordinated, taped to the floor of anything, is just plain ghetto. It's like keeping your headliner up with thumbtacks... or keeping the vinyl roof covering of your auto stuck to the metal using Liquid Steel. I can see maybe using the towel floor mats on a Kia, but not a Hyundai... that is just starting to acquire a more pedigreed reputation.
Plus, sticking a lanky ole towel on the floor is a recipe for disaster. Skimp a little bit on the tape, the next thing you know you're traveling down the highway at 80mph, unable to use the brakes, because you've got a bath towel wrapped around your legs. :sick:
The best thing to do, I'll repeat since no one was paying attention, buy some $30 floor mats from Target. Or, If you are too cheap for that, go to your living room when the Mrs. isn't home, pull out the sofa, and cut out a couple big hunks of carpet. :P
"Well your honor, I "sensed" he didn't want it
LOL. I'd pay to see something like that.
This has to be a typo.
To me, “Nonpublic” means PERSONAL. Why would anyone authorize giving away their Personal Information to anyone? :confuse:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Watch it I did something like that on my 80’ Park Ave. Although I went high tech and used push-pins bent at 90 degrees about a ¼ inch back from the tip. It held perfectly. I even mentioned this on one of these forums (when we got off topic once before), but it was only a temporary fix until I had the headliner replaced.
Believe it or not Mrs. jmonroe didn’t like the various colored pins I used so I replaced them all with the clear ones. Still no good but what choice did I have, the trim shop had to order the color for the car and it was going to take 7/10 days.
Plus, sticking a lanky ole towel on the floor is a recipe for disaster. Skimp a little bit on the tape, the next thing you know you're traveling down the highway at 80mph, unable to use the brakes, because you've got a bath towel wrapped around your legs.
Boy oh boy, what a lame excuse for not doing a job. SKIMP, why would I do something like that, I’m working on a Hyundai? :confuse:
Or, If you are too cheap for that, go to your living room when the Mrs. isn't home, pull out the sofa, and cut out a couple big hunks of carpet.
I’d buy a pair of tickets to watch the fall out of that at your place.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
The salesperson was very nice through out the factory order process. And I didn't want to take the sale away from him. Oh, and we had already sold our other vehicle.
However, I should've complained to the appropriate state agency.
Because we can't finance a car for you unless we send your info to the bank.
No it doesn't. You can fill up with whatever gas you want. If you choose 88-89 octane there is a $.15 per gallon surcharge; if you fill up with 90-94 octane there is a $.30 per gallon surcharge. No surcharge for diesel, which is already higher than premium gas. Sounds like a pretty good deal.
As far as it negating any other rebates, it is no different that the dealer offering a choice of low interest financing or a cash rebate - pick whichever you prefer.
Here's a link to the full article: Let's Refuel America
I would love to believe the article about the gas, but they will just jack up the price of the cars or do away with rebates, or force you to buy "Mop & Glo", etc. Young arts professionals like yourself are more trusting, but as you get older, you'll learn that you can't trust people---especially car manufacturers.
There was one thing about art and music professionals that I admired when I was hiring them---their belief that people are honest, straight forward, and caring. I really took care of them after they were hired. They worked harder, put in more long hours, did without needed supplies, and complained less than many teachers. Keep up your wonderful work. SUPPORT THE ARTS!
Richard
I'm so glad that you decided not to accept my kind invitation. After I posted it, I realized that Pinehurst would never allow you inside the city limits with towels covering your floor mats. :P We cater to a higher clientele here. :shades:
Richard
Today was a glorious top down day at the Jersey shore. I had a Sebring years ago and enjoyed it a lot. Gave it up in a family expansion when we got the first Ody but now have a 99 Celica convertible (last year for such a thing) that I found nearby on Ebay. Heap big fun.
Yes, I did know that. They also sell his sheet sets for $30.00! We love that store. You just have to hit them on the right day. Believe me, my wife knows just the right days.
To stay on topic: The next thing that we will hear is that jmonroe is using cheap towels for his seat covers. :P
Richard
Richard
Dear Team Captain,
I knew that you would be disappointed in me. What could I do? I ran out of arguments. I wish that I had heard about speterson's Weathertechs before I finally gave in to jmonroe and imidazol97. The Weathertechs sound like the perfect answer.
BTW, can you give jmonroe demerits for using those towels? He'll use them next on his seats. :P There is just no accounting for taste on this team.
Richard
Anything that would help the buyer finance the car is acceptable but your original post 28495 said :
"According to the Gramm Leach Bliley Act, I have been advised of the Dealer Privacy Notice Law, and further authorize the Dealer to send my Nonpublic Personal Information to Dealer's vendors."
The part that bothers me is the "...Personal Information to Dealer's vendors". How do I know who the "Dealer Vendors" are? Where does it stop? Sounds like a barn door being opened to me.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I do show up with my financing in hand usually. If the dealer can beat that I will let them do that but not sign a blank check for any clown to get my information. I've learned that oen the hard way.
That's not a demerit offense.
He'll use them next on his seats.
Everyone knows you don't put towels on seats; you use sheets, they're larger. Now that might be demeritable.
There is just no accounting for taste on this team.
I was thinking the same thing but I didn't want to rip a team member. I've always been a team player, for better or worse. :P
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Well, why didn't you say so right off the bat.
Darn, I almost felt like I was dentist prying information out of ya. :shades:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Maybe one of these days I'll retype it.
Looks like this is mainly an internal tracking mechanism of ownership of dealers to make sure that salesmen, salesladies have pitched "high margin" items to each and every customer. Those of you in the car sales business perhaps might realize "why" customers are very wary when coming in to look at and buy a vehicle. From my perspective, the prices and optional mop and glo type items are for "chumps". But, as most everyone knows, especially salespeople, "There is a S------- born every minute".
Hello
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went
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the
charges.
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dead;
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information on the incident
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from
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With my cut of the money, I shall buy a car! Yay!
Wonder if she knows Duke, your Marine buddy in Iraq?
Sender blocked (originated in Pakistan, I believe), deleted and looking forward to the next iteration....
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Glad that post of mine was accidently deleted... all kinds of incriminating evidence against the jipster. Maybe I should take half a demerit?
Chrysler just has to learn that advertising dollars can go a long way toward a favorable review.
Speaking of convertibles I didn't have the top up on my commute to work today. However, my bicycle doesn't have a top, so it was no different than any other riding day.