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I don't like them unless they are stock. That one is Mickey Moused to death.
Interesting enough, one of my 54's was exactly that model and color! That's a 210.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
Check it out if you get a chance. They also talk about their culture. They frown on employees taking vacations and expect their employees to consider Hyundai to be a way of life, not just a job.
The 1992 Eldo debuted alongside the much-improved Seville STS and is a much more desirable car. I'd just be a little wary about early Northstars as they had a tendency to consume oil. One culprit was a lower block seal that would tend to leak. It could be a little seepage or it could be pouring out. A redesigned seal is available and costs only $44, but the cost of labor is expensive as the engine must be pulled to replace it.
I don't remember if the 4.9 V-8 was available in the Eldo, but I had a 1994 DeVille with that engine and it was a decent performer for its time and actually quite fuel-efficient.
Yeesh! A Cimmaron? The dealers themselves had such a disdain for it, the salesman told me he wouldn't even waste my time showing me that car.
A ladyfriend of mine had a nice red 1992 Sedan DeVille which is almost identical to the 1991.
speaking of car design, do they even need windows anymore?
they have abs, traction and stability control, blis, radar cruise control, automatic parking, front and rear view distance warning, reversing camera. :confuse:
My list is relatively boring:
'65 MGB
'72 Volvo 145
'68 Datsun 1600
'73 240-Z
'71 Kenworth
'72 Datsun 510
'73 Chev Bel Air
'86 Vovager
'91 Miata
'94 Caravan
'94 Miata
'94 Eagle Vision
'00 Lincoln LS (sport, manual transmission)
'04 Nissan Pathfinder 4WD
'08 Acura TSX
You must have been traveling in NY. With a budget crisis second only to CA, the police are now tasked to do "revenue enhancement" instead of police work. The ticketing has gotten to the absurd level here.
This morning a school bus driver was issued a ticket for having a headlight out in his personal vehicle...IN OUR PARKING LOT! I bet the 60 little kids who had to wait for him in the cold felt much safer know that. :sick:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1969 Boss 429 Mustang (Down hill in neutral with a tail wind and the engine off 9 MPG)
1970 Dodge Coronet (Switched from the Boss as gas was getting to 80 cents a gallon)
1972 Ford Maverick (Body was perfect, engine only so so)
1973 Chevy Camaro (Total POS but for $200 in 1981 it was a great beater car)
1982 Ford Mustang (have a lot a great stories about that car, to bad most would violate TOS)
1986 Dodge Omni (Someone made a left turn infront of me so I bought the next car)
1987 Dodge Omni (say what you will but it was a pretty decent car)
1992 Chevy Corsica (Yes a basic car but ran well with no issues sold to BIL)
1998 Chrysler Grand Caravan (Wife wanted it, then didn't)
2000 Hyundai Elantra Station Wagon (Took it to 175K miles with no real issues)
2008 Chrysler Sebring Convertible (Nothing like riding with the top down)
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
1974 Monte Carlo(seriously modded- really)
1969 Datsun SPL-311 Roadster
1967 Buick Riviera(bought for $5 in 1979)
1979 Plymouth Arrow GT 2.6(fast for it's day)
1972 BMW Bavaria(bought for $150 to supply parts for...)
1973 BMW Bavaria(... my first Bimmer; a rolling restoration,I even lapped the Glen with it)
1987 Merkur Scorpio(nice car, too bad about the servicing costs)
1987 BMW 535is(one of my all-time favorites)
1991 Volvo 740 Turbo(very fast brick)
1988 BMW M6(wish I'd never sold it)
1973 Ford Bronco V8(inherited from father)
1984 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe(5 spd. stick; a work beater to keep miles off the M6)
1993 Nissan Pathfinder SE(A nice truck, but the jeep was more fun)
1998 BMW 318ti(hated to sell it, but we needed a bigger car)
1997 BMW 528i(still going strong with its third owner and over 225k miles)
Current Cars:
1975 BMW 2002A(eBay find, a fun project)
1995 BMW 318ti Club Sport(one of less than @300 made, a reliable and economical daily driver/track toy)
1999 Jeep Wrangler Sahara(bought for political reasons, but decided to keep it)
2004 BMW X3 2.5(dead nuts reliable and reasonably fun to drive)
2007 Mazdaspeed 3(don't ask)
Current Bike:
1996 Triumph Speed Triple(scary fast -0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds- for my 53 year old bones)
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Yeah, but how many buckboards and covered wagons? :P
Between my wife and I--14. Plus 4 tractors.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Junk, huh? :P
Sorry, it's just I see that phrase all the time on Craigslist "This car won't last long" and I wonder what they really mean. LOL
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
next thing will be just .little slits like in a tank. give you that real feeling of being secure.
hey, i am learning to write like you do.
actually, there was a review of the sho in todays paper. thought it was ok, but pretty big, didn't have european handling. lots of power if you don't mind using lots of gas. probably not worth $20k more than a regular taurus.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Not if you have a Mac.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Previous Rides
1992 Chevrolet Beretta GT - bought new a week after I got my license, had a slew of problems that concluded with the 2nd loeb on the camshaft wearing down at 60,000 miles. I swore off GM cars for the rest of my life & yet somehow support my Dad's decision to purchase a $58K Tahoe next month.
1998 Ford Explorer Sport - 1 pay lease, 2 years, 24K miles, $7000 including tax.
2000 Saab 9-3 - Fun car to drive (2 hands on the wheel) & even more fun to lease. Turned it in with exactly 36,000 miles. The salesman said he'd never seen that before & then asked if there was any gas left in the tank. There was enough for the car to be driven to the back of the lot.
2000 Mazda Protege ES - My wife's first new car that she bought while we were dating.
1990 BMW 325i - The car I Clunked
Current Rides
2001 Honda Prelude Type SH - Bought new as a leftover at the end of April '02. The greatest car I've ever owned. My personal benchmark for ride, handling, manual transmission, & interior materials. It has almost 118,000 miles & is still a blast to drive.
2007 BMW X3 3.0si - lots of fun to drive, great passenger room, very cheap to lease ($471.67 per month with $0 down for a $40K SUV), great handling, steering, & brakes. We like it so much we're considering buying it our at the end of the lease.
2010 Acura TSX TECH - The car I bought using the 1990 BMW as a Clunker. Beautifully crafted interior, smooth engine, one of the best automatics I've ever driven, great fuel economy, amazing fit & finish.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Richard
Richard
You could have fooled me. :P :shades:
Ducking and running
Richard
Richard
IFR for cars - interesting idea. It would put a lot of windshield repair outfits out of business.
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At first, I laughed. Then I stopped short. In teaching school, I discovered that a few students had that problem. It's not a comfortable feeling. It can actually be frustrating to force the correction on a person. I had always noticed it in your posts but, with you being such a nice guy, I never mentioned it until yesterday. It doesn't matter. We can read your posts with no difficulty.
Richard
Richard
Richard
Let's not get carried away. :P
Richard
1960 Falcon
1964 Chevy 2dr Impala
1968 Torino (new)
1972 Corvette coupe (new)
1969 Camaro (came with wife, sold quick. Wife didn't last either)
1972 Duster (Gasoline embargo. Duster didn't help at 19mpg)
1964 Corvette coupe (bad body, paint. Made money on sale)
1977 Monte Carlo (new. Lost with wife)
1967 (approx.) El Camino (truly a POS body, interior, tranny)
1979 Malibu (new)
1978 Thunderbird (came with wife, sold quick. Wife is still here)
1981 Chevette (new) (Drive to work car. Very comfortable seats)
1984 Toronado (new)
1991 SHO (new)
1966 Ford pickup (Dad's farm truck. Drove to work about 6 yrs.)
1981 Corvette coupe.
1995 Deville
1994 Ranger pickup
2002 Accord (new)
1997 Deville
2006 Honda Ridgeline pickup (new) (current)
2007 Corvette coupe (new) (current)
2005 Deville (current)
None of them gave me much trouble. The El Camino and 64 Corvette - I knew both were in unperfect shape when bought. Non working gas guage on El Camino stranded me 2 blocks from home when I was stupid and didn't add gas soon enough. Walked home, got mower gas can, and walked back. Worked on 1964 Corvette until next work would have been body work and paint - major committment for a 4-speed I didn't like, so I sold it, making about 35% profit.
I loved the 1994 Ranger pickup. It was a neat little truck.
The Cadillac Northstar motors (and other luxury items) scare me to death, but the wife wants one. Its got an extended warranty.
The Ridgeline rides close to a car. Has small bed to serve as a pickup. Has fulltime 4 wheel drive for occasional bad weather and lots of ground clearance if I want to drive over a curb, etc.
The 2007 Corvette is fantastic. The earlier Corvettes were not anywhere close to the car it is.
I had a 92 Corsica (Same car two extra doors) that was pretty much trouble free. Between me and my brother in law we put nearly 250K on the clock before the issues started.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Well, let's see:
'65 MGB & Volvo were stablemates, replaced by the '73 240-Z & '68 Datsun 1600 sedan, later joined by the KW. The '68 510 replaced the 240 when it was totalled & the 1600 was replaced by the Bel Air -- this is what a CA divorce (caused in part by the KW lifestyle) will do to one's cars, among other things.
After a few years, I got back on my feet & starting going with new cars. The Voyager replaced the Bel Air and, a few years later the '91 Miata replaced the 510. The '94 Miata replaced the '91 (another big wreck), then a year or so later it was replaced by the '94 Eagle Vision, in 1995. That was when I was playing engineering Chief Project Engineer & had the occasion to use the car on business & needed to take other people with me. The Vogager was replaced by the Caravan & the Caravan by the Pathfinder, which we still drive. The Eagle was replaced by the Lincoln, which was replaced by the TSX.
All told, I've driven a bit over 1.25 million miles in those vehicles (so far). I love driving more than cars -- vehicles are a means to an end for me.
i had an 88 corsica and it pretty much fell apart on it's own after 80,000 carefully driven miles. seemed to built out of the cheapest materials known to man. i remember renting a honda accord about then...with the flip up lights where one stayed up and the other down most of the time....and it was superior in almost every way. I was also very impressed with a datsun i think maxima at that time too, 4 doors and very nice handling, solid ride.
explorers setting a trend here, it is fun not using capitals. like breaking rules you're not supposed to. I guess it's the rebel in him that makes him do it.
I will go back to using capitals, or I might get ruined for life.
Off to Florida, land of Caddies and Lincolns with vinyl roofs and wire wheels tomorrow. I'll have the laptop, so I'll still be able to report in.
Isell once had a temper :confuse: :confuse:
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
First she asked if I knew what to do if it happened. I said I grew up with junkers and a broken throttle spring was par for the course. Neutral, Brake, Off. No problem.
Then she says she doesn't want to ride in it anymore. "Can you make it go away?"
This is where the plot thickens. My way of thinking is dealer should cater to my needs and take Avalon and replace with ??? Lexus, Acura ???. He should replace Avalon with my choice car and have Toyota assist with any money difference.
Is this reasonable? After all it is Toyota that brought this on themselves. I was led to believe it was floormats. Now we find out it is much more than carpet causing the problem. Had I been told the truth I would have stayed away from 2010 Avalon.
Can I just unwind the deal and give them the car back? Is the dealer obligated to do anything for me? Is Toyota Corp obligated? I'm actually kind of hesitant to drive it. That was scary video from National News. Rock>>ME<<Hard Place.
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
Allot has changed since I was here last and just don't have the key board time I used to.
Last fall my wife and I were talking about the major upswing Ford is going through and that it is nothing but positive press every day. I told her that sales are going to bust open by the end of 2010 and I really need to get out of my Finance MGR job and get back into sales now so I can ride the wave.
So after much deliberation her and I decided that I would give up my cushy air conditioned/heated office and start beating the asphalt again.
So far I am loving it. Forgot how much fun and how easy selling was compared to running the Finance Office here. In comparison no headaches, anyone has a problem I simply say, "Let me get my Manager".
My wife and I are also raising our 2 year old grandson so this provides me with a much more flexible schedule. Here where I work as long as you are selling and are a Senior Sales Person you can pretty much set your schedule.
its good to see you all again. The post are as funny as always.
Don't worry we will talk later about who won NA Car and Truck of the year, who had top consumer picks, who passed Honda this year in CR's consumer perception pole, who's CEO was Business Man Of The Year and about 20 other accolades.
I feel an "I told you so" coming on real soon.
First car.....a well worn '64 Mercury Comet, 6 cyl that made more noise than power.
First new car...a mid/late '80s Renault Alliance
In between....
-a cherry '67 GTO convertible standard tranny.....loved that car. The now former spouse talked me into selling it because it didn't fit our "image" (long story, and don't want to go there).
-the Comet was replaced by a '70 Ford Torino fastback with a smoking 302 V8. Coudln't kill that car. It finally rusted so much that it wasn't safe anymore. Drivetrain was still strong well past 130K miles, though.
-my wife's (before we got married) mid '70s 260Z (that's right, a 260Z....not a 240Z, not a 280Z). Fun to drive. Choked mercilessly with smog controls and safety mandates.
'69 MGB-GT. Beautiful car. Body was perfect with real wood interior and real wire wheels. Electrics? Not so much. This is the car I learned how to work on cars myself. Got it to the point where it was in decent (not perfect) running shape (carbs needed to be adjusted constantly, and the electrics were filled with gremlins).
-Worst car I ever owned....and early '90s Ford Tempo. Bought this new to use as a commuter car as I was driving a lot back and forth to Chicago from OH. Another one that made more noise than power. Had a tendency to just shut down, while on the interstate, going 65 MPH (which it could barely do). Scared me to death more than once. Had it in for service many, many times for the issue. They never could rectify it. Once the 12K mile warranty was up, they wanted to charge me for the diagnosis (which they never could do). Terrible car.
-early '90s Cadillac Allante inherited from my late uncle. This car was actually a jewel. At the time, a "tour de force" from GM. Great fun....just no one really wanted to pay the kind of money these cars stickered for (except my Uncle). Had it for about a year. Didn't drive it much, but sure was fun and an eye catcher when I did.
tied for worse car I owned....more recent....a current gen Cadillac STS4. Don't even know where to begin. I inherited it from my (now) late Mother. She bought it new. She couldn't pass her driver's test, and passed it on to me. Absolutely besieged by electronics that didn't work, or didn't work correctly. Final blow came when the rear window kept blowing out (literally) when the rear defroster came on. Very scary when you're driving along, turn on the rear defroster and hear a "POW" with glass flying all over the interior. After the 3rd rear window blow out, it became a GM lemon law buyback. They fought me every step of the way on teh buyback insisting on everything from people were actually shooting at me, to blaming me that I was using the defroster when it was cold outside (duh.....isn't that's when you use a defroster?). They said not to use the defroster until the interior of the car had a chance to warm up.
Sprinkled in between.......not bad cars....just ones that have passed through my hands...
-my current 07 Tahoe (which GM finally relinquished to giving me in exchange for the woeful STS). Great car.
-late '80s Trans AM.....seemed fast at the time. Now, the 4 cyl Accord has more HP.
-early 90s SAAB 9-5 Turbo.....torque steer special. Better be hanging on when the turbo spooled up.
Plenty more, but that's enough.
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Wow, I hope that doesn't apply to the DTS as that is my current ride. Of course the suggestion that someone would be shooting at you would be a plausible one in Killadelphia.
Can't beat the year, but I did manage to get three tickets in one weekend.... in three different states...... none of them my own. :sick:
Afraid Camry Owner - Toyota found to keep tight lid on potential safety
link title
Is Toyota on the mend --used to be called Decline of Toyota but got renamed for some reason...
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.efda853/4334
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Good to hear from you again.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
BTW, you only have about 5,000 posts to read in order to be up to date. :P
Richard
I have to agree with you on Ford's progress. Now, if they were only worth something at trade in time....
I'll echo what everybody else said already. Welcome back! I'm really glad to hear that you're doing well.
Nice to have you back. At least now you won't be always wondering what that other job is like.
My big question was never answered. Does the most basic Ford Focus model only have a key hole on one side? And does not have a remote.
A friend got a rental and found it very difficult to manage. Had to lean across and open the door for his wife from the inside...which was hard to do for some reason.
I want to find the answer, but it is hard finding a base model Focus.
Sorry to give you a major project to work on when you just got back.....but I stay up nights wondering about this. :confuse:
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Yeah, you could be doing much worse things than selling Fords these days. They are putting out some very nice product these days!