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Ford Super Duty Continued - VII

meredithmeredith Posts: 577
edited March 2014 in Ford
This topic is a continuation of Topic 1595....

Ford Super Duty - Continued VII. Please continue
these discussions here.

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  • koakeykoakey Posts: 109
    Lilelmo, I think the folks in ford-diesel have decided it a hook for a trash bag (works for me ;) Hat hanger works too (if you think your trash is the 5'x8' attached box ;)
  • lilelmolilelmo Posts: 144
    I guess I'm just slow. Maybe it's because I never really saw a truck with a litter bag. It always seems to be rolling around under the driver's feet or being thrown in the back through the sliding window. But thanks koakey. I went through ideas on phone, CB, hat(s), everything but litter bag. I guess I can clean out the floor now. :-)

    Next day:
    One problem though, those big ol' black bags with the drawstrings are just too darn big. They still get underfoot. ;)

    Who's found nice black rubber molded type splash guards for the rear wheel openings? Details?
  • koakeykoakey Posts: 109
    Will these work?

    http://www.huskyliner.com/mudguards.html

    I have 'em (ordered them directly from Husky, as I recall $29.mumble a pair) but haven't opened the boxes yet (came just a few days ago and wasn't home much today - installer gets home tonight ;)
  • stemaxstemax Posts: 1
    I have heard of numerous engine and clutch failures on powerstrokes. Anybody have a comment? It is a good lookin truck but if it isn't any good Also what ford dealer sells them at invoice.
  • koakeykoakey Posts: 109
    Stemax, which engines and which clutchs? (manual tranny?)

    I haven't heard of any excessive failures with either the gas or diesel engines. Ford has had some problems with some of their earlier auto trannys but the current tranny seems to be okay.

    It's tough to find dealers that will sell these hot items at invoice. :)

    Check the Forums at www.ford-diesel.com . There have been discussion on pro's/con's of the SD vs other manufacturers, trannys, dealers, etc. You might find a dealer willing to order for invoice but I think you might be hard pressed to find a dealer selling off the lot for invoice. (btw, f-d is not a Ford-sponsored site so you tend to get the straight skinny on things.)
  • vwoovwoo Posts: 17
    When I picked up the Excursion from the
    dealer, I remember him telling me about a 7 pin to 4 pin adaptor in the
    glove box. I subsequently took this out and put it in with the jack
    because I would not need it very soon. I didn't realize that there was
    another wiring harness in there. So I just pulled it out and there is the
    wiring harness. Put it in this AM and everythink is woring great.

    Thanks again.
  • bessbess Posts: 972
    All of the engines are very solid..
    (Of course online, you'll hear more about folks problems than the thousands who are trouble free).
    The most pervasive problem seemed to be 'piston slap' which was solved last year.

    I've not heard of hardly any 5sp/6sp tranny problems, (even online).
    The auto tranny also appears to be very capable. The most common complaint heard online seems to be in the torque converter area.

    I still believe the ford engine/tranny combo's have lower failure rates than those of dodge/chevy.

    In Raleigh, visit Capital Ford.. you'll be able to order one close to invoice (within $500).
  • idahoanidahoan Posts: 13
    The cup holders that I got on my 2/18 built truck are the old style, no mistake about it. I'll give them a little time to wear and then get them fixed.

    So far I'm averaging around 15+ mpg, PSD 3.73 LS, according to the on-board computer with only 100 miles on this new pup. I can hardly wait to get it broken in to see the average.

    As far as the rear end noise, posted earlier, it sounds like the limited slip may be locked or not releasing. This may be a dumb question, but have you checked the front hubs to be sure that one of the hubs isn't in the locked position, or not all the way into auto(free) and may be partially engaged? Oh, one other thing that has happened to me in the past was someone loosened up some of my lug nuts on one tire and the rim rocked on the studs and creak or give a snapping sound.
  • jtcjtc Posts: 17
    Thanks for the info. I do have ESOF but still have the turnable front hubs. Are they supposed to be on AUTO or MANUAL for everyday driving on pavement? If you think my gas mileage is low, do you know if the dealer can adjust anything in the computer, fuel injectors, or transmission (it seems to take a while to shift up)? Thanks
  • koakeykoakey Posts: 109
    jtc; once you've got your 1000 miles breakin, for normal everyday driving your hubs should be in AUTO. Having them in MANUAL won't hurt anything but not necessary (might cut your mileage a bit, but not near as bad as the mileage cut when you're in 4x4).

    Don't remember what you said your mileage was. How many miles on the truck? PSD? (PSDs make take 5-10K miles for the engine to break in and mileage to go up).
  • dealer called on friday and said i had an eta of 4/3. hopefully my truck won't go on walk-about like some of our other participants.

    bowhuntwi: i use a compound bow. here in the u.p., we have the advantage of being able to just go out in the backyard treestand to set up for the day's hunt. have a friend with a place in spread eagle, says it's the greatest, but i've never been (yet). hope you enjoyed your first weekend with the truck.
  • bowhuntwibowhuntwi Posts: 262
    WEll, I'm back, put 430 miles on it, rides like a dream. Got an average of 13.9 mpg hilly, small towns in route. Has anybody noticed the spare tire...I got white lettered ATs, the spare is black lettered. I stopped in Prarie Sauk, Wisc. the Ford dealer there has an Island Blue 00 XLT CC sitting on his lot, checked the spare, it was black lettered too. But if anyone is still looking for a V10, might want to call that dealer, sorry don't have the phone number for it.

    My wife really likes the ride. It barely fits under the 7' foot garage door, did break down and got the 15" ant. from Wal Mart. Dealer also told me about the garbage bag holder....notice theres no ash tray up front but two in back seat....there will be no smoking in the truck, but I'll miss my coin tray...

    No complaints with the truck, got a minor one with the guy that installed the Cap though, but will get that fixed Monday. Have a Great Week you ALL.......
  • bowhuntwibowhuntwi Posts: 262
    I also got the Ford/Duraliner drop in liner, had a special for $179.00, with this liner you can still utilize the cargo tie downs in the front of the bed. Then I threw a Penda rubber mat down on top of it to prevent the sliding of stuff.
  • koakeykoakey Posts: 109
    Sounds like you have the new, improved cup holder in the front. :) If so, you do have an ash tray, it's between the two cup holders (yeah, it's not big but that's not an issue for me ;).

    I got the captain's chairs with huge center console. The console has a nice lift-out tray that has a coin holder.

    Glad you like the truck... sounds like it was worth the wait (I know mine was).
  • wburbankwburbank Posts: 18
    Hi, got my build date for 3/6/00. However can not get VOPC to say anything but, "clear and unscheduled". I hope my dealer is not playing games with me. Also, how can I track it by rail?
    Ordered 12/18/99. F250. Lariat. CC. White. PSD. SB. 373 slip. Camper pac. Trlr tow pac & hitch. PW tow mirr. $500 over invoice, with $500 farm bureau rebate.
    YES, this and www.forddiesel.com have been a great help. Keeps the dealers honest. (i think honest dealers is an oxi-moran)
    Any way any help in tracking my truck would be appreciated. I know it has been posted befor, but can not find it.....there is so much on these F250s.
    Later
  • koakeykoakey Posts: 109
    Try tracking off the www.bnsf.com web page (tracking is one of the options on the left side of the page as I recall). However, my truck was built on a Thursday; by the following Monday it was at the railhead north of Denver (quick!).

    Correct URL is www.ford-diesel.com

    my personal fav :)
  • wnicholswnichols Posts: 42
    Please check previous posts. Individuals are not to use the VOPC system anymore - dealers only.
  • dwucherdwucher Posts: 79
    yeah, right!!!
  • koakeykoakey Posts: 109
    Wnichols is, in fact, correct. VOPC is intended for use by dealers, not the general public. If a member of the general public has acquired the information necessary to access VOPC, that is their business but that is also against Ford's wishes.
  • I have recently ordered an '00 F-250 Supercab 4WD SWB 5.4L. I am interested in the terminology that is used by FoMoCo to describe the stage an ordered vehicle is in. I have heard the terms "clean and unscheduled", "submitted to factory", "build date", "delivery date" used in post. These terms are fairly self-explanatory. If anyone would take the time to explain the sequence of events that happens during the process or point me to a prior post that may contain this info, I would be most thankful......

    Thanks in Advance
  • here is what i've learned, let's hope it's accurate. "clean & unscheduled" is like going to purgatory, it is indefinate and unbearable. once your order is "submitted to the factory" you will be given a build date in 1-4 days, that build date being about 3 weeks hence.

    assuming you've got your build date, you can expect your truck 2-3 weeks after the build date. however, there are a number of ways where the best-laid plans can go awry. you'd have to check some of the earlier editions of sd, or even with bowhuntwi (got his on friday), but sometimes the trucks just seem to wander while on the rail carrier. most of the stories are humorous, assuming it's not your truck visiting various ports of call, but eventually you will get yours.
  • i am trying to purchase an f350 xlt cc drw v10 5 spd 2tone. i'm beginning this search using autobytel and sams club suggestions.
    what one place is saying is that he can find NO truck like i want (says there is a problem finding the 5 spd v10 in drw) in a 5 state area. he's also saying if i want to order i must do it THIS WEEK, if i have hopes of getting one this year. he sent me a prospective spec sheet and it has a priority code of 99. i've learned that that is the least preferred code and that 10 is the preferred (he said as a dealership, they have highest priority- no matter the code). have another person telling me that it is already too late for 00' orders. so, it boils down to 5 ?'s-
    1) is there truelly no trucks like i want (i find that hard to believe) sitting on lots?
    2) is it too late to order?
    3) how do i get a priority 10 order in?
    4) what is a DORA (read about that in previous edmunds), why should i have a copy in hand?
    5) what is a fleet order, and is it better to go through them for an order?
  • lewaclewac Posts: 151
    unfortunately, it may very well be too late to order a '00 v10. call a bunch of dealers for a synopsis. when we picked up our truck (2.2.0000) our salesperson indicated only a few more weeks remained to order certain configs. our dealership had no problems with allocation... the "problem" was/is with Ford. they just cannot build these things fast enough and they're basically "scheduled out" for the model year (not taking any more orders (at least on some configs)). now. you may find a dealer that will go through the "motions" by ordering priority 99... but that's just "smoke" to perhaps, appease you. be especially wary if they attempt to then sell you something "close" out of stock. another problem with many dealerships is that they simply don't have the allocation. this issue gets complicated (see ford-diesel.com). but simply put, if they don't sell a particular config "yesterday" they do NOT get another one to sell "today"... a bit of "catch-22". and note also that an ordered truck basically goes against the dealer allotment (remember that Ford doesn't know about YOU... only the dealer does)... and thus, some dealers don't want you to "order" a truck (thus the priority 99, a basic "do-nothing" order) on an item that they KNOW they can sell out of stock much closer to the MSRP. finally fwiw: note that earlier in the model year everyone we saw on this thread was posting priority 15's or better and getting their trucks in basically 6-10 weeks as a result.

    it's also very possible that your specific config does NOT exist anywhere (ours didn't (and probably still doesn't)). the same can be stated for many configs that just aren't "popular" with john q. lol.

    all... I've stated it b4. but my .02 on this vopc thing. the fact that ford doesn't give us a reliable url to track our ordered vehicle is bs in this day of connectivity. I "heard" that the vopc is now password protected. but if it wasn't I'd still attempt to use it if our truck was in the works. also found that the vopc was extremely UNreliable AFTER the build (our truck was one of those that got "lost" on the rails... took them 6 WEEKS to find the thing... see past posts). but the vopc WAS a lot better than nothing. so if Ford is "yanked" about one's use of the vopc? too bad. they make more than enough $$$ to set up some service for their future customers.
  • bessbess Posts: 972
    Lewac summed it up well. I'll add a few words too.
    Answering your Q's
    1. Likely not. If your config is common, then its already been bought by someone else. If its not common, the dealer probably didn't order one to sit on the lot..
    2. I've been hearing for a while that they are going to stop taking orders.. I'm not sure I 'completly' believe this like I once used to.. Dealers that have good allotments for a particular truck are able to get it in under 12 weeks.. I think a few dealers have made statments to the effect that Ford isn't taking orders for a particular configuration, when in reality, its only that particular dealership that has no allotment for the said configuration.
    Check several dealers in your area..

    3. The '99' code you saw is from the workup sheet that really has no meaning, so the '99' on that sheet shouldn't concern you.. The priority is set by the dealer when they submit it.. You can see the true priority of an order on the DORA. The lowest (best) number a dealer can put is a priority 10, lower than that is reserved for special purposes.

    4. The DORA = Dealer Order Receipt Acknowledgment. Means the dealer really submitted the order.

    5. Many dealerships have a 'fleet' department who take orders for companies etc, who buy large number of trucks. There's an additional discount dealerships give to these fleet sales.. (theres a special fleet code for each company)
    However, the salesmen who work in the fleet dept are allowed to sell to individuals just like any other salesperson. My dealer is an example of this..
    Why look for a fleet salesman? Usually more of their income is from salary vs the average salesman so it might be easier to haggle.. I also believe that more SD's are purchased through the fleet dept than not, so you might get someone more knowledgable about them..
    I think if your well armed with information from Edmunds etc, you can get a good price regardless of the saleperson..
  • For the info concerning ordering new truck. I appreciate your time....
  • dwucherdwucher Posts: 79
    ditto on the vopc!!!
  • paull1paull1 Posts: 65
    Just thought I'd fill you all in on my Y2K V10 3.73 4x4 auto with 6300 miles.

    Average MPG 10.6 w/60-70% city, 30-40% highway
    This average was from the trip computer over 2 1000 mile readings. My route was pretty consistent during each of the 1000 miles.

    I also made a 440 total mile round trip from RI to NJ and got a 13.4 mpg average. The trip included mostly highway miles with some construction delays (20 minutes aprox).

    I'm about 300 miles into my next 1000 reading and the current average is 11.1, the trip may have helped improve things a bit.

    It should be important to note that I do not have a "light foot" and I have found that this truck can get better mileage with a light touch. But that would take the fun out of the V10...

    Also, I have a roll top bed cover and have found no improvement in mpg with it closed. If anything the mpg is slightly better with it open. That is not to knock the cover, it's function is great and I am happy with the addition.

    Has anyone had the F250 front end squeak fixed, my dealer had my truck all day and I still have the squeak. I know there is a service bulletin on this, does anyone have the number?

    Before I forget,,, I love my super duty!
  • gossamargossamar Posts: 106
    Okay, first the front end squeak.....back a few hundred posts or so....I shared my experience with the front end squeak. There have been it looks to be two or three possible 'gremlins'. First, some cab bolts may not be tightened to the frame to the correct foot-lbs., second, over in the ford-diesel forum, someone found a front sway bar mounted incorrectly. However, I think that the most common cause stems from Technical bulletin # 99-16-3. This one deals with the front spring tip isolators. I originally had this done back in the begining January...three days later, squeak was back. To back to dealer again and was lucky to get same technician. I then took him for a drive to listen to the sound. He pulled truck back into shop and put on another set of item number F81Z-55586-AA. These are the isolator tips...look like little plastic shims. Anway, this time he applied some sort of moly lubricant and after 3-weeks no squeaks as of yet!! The tech also stated beings I have had the truck in for the same problem twice in a 2-month period, he was going to contact his tech dude at FORD to see if anything else could could be done. I really don't expect to hear back, but I do have the techs name so that I can ask for him if the squeak returns.
    Shannynfh, what part of the country are you located in?? I have about 6 or 7 different FORD dealers located within an hours drive from my place in central ILL. I would be more than happy to make some calls or get you some numbers...just let me know.....
  • I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I AM LEAVING CHEVY AND COMING TO FORD. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A CHEVY MAN, AND AM PROUD TO SAY I HAVE SOLD MY '97 TAHOE AND AM GOING INTO A '00 250 SD AUTO
    4 X 4 LARIAT SHORT BED V10 W/LS 3.73. I ORDERED IT DEC.3 AND THE DEALER IS GETTING DELIVERY NEXT WEEK. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PREVIOUS WRITERS FOR THE INFO THEY HAVE WRITTEN, IT ALL HELPED TO MAKE MY DECISION EASIER. THE STYLING MAKES AN EXCELLENT FIRST IMPRESSION, AND THE FEATURES AND OPTIONS ARE EXTRAORDINARY. I WILL RE-POST ONCE I GET IT, TO TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE AND THOUGHTS.
    ALL THE BEST TO PREVIOUS SD OWNERS.
  • Check out www.Zainobros .com They should have what you need for shining up dark colored vehicles.Good Luck
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